It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.
I made account when they havent hidden the stats, i accepted this rules and they change it. Of course this is ok for you?  |
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Personally, I do think it's much better if stats and history of a user can be accessible anytime.
Better to display these kind of user gambling on site data.
I don't see any reason why some casinos choose to not display it.
But being that, it's does not mean that the casino is scam, for a reputable casino like Stake, I believe they would not sacrifice their's to scam gamblers, they have been on the industry for years.
But yeah, in my opinion, transparency is essential, it is better served conviently to the part of the player.
Indeed, they are doing this for a reason but would likely to know it as well for the benefits of everyone and the transparency of the site. Well, I don't think that was important for everyone to see others stat nor you can see the others as well. I will consider as a challenge for the OP to dig deeper. If that he can provide solid proof making these sites scammy, that is a big shamed for them since more people are trusting them. But until now, we can't draw into the conclusion that they are scammy or even alike because of that certain feature until proven guilty. you guys are getting my point all wrong. as regard paying out winnings, primedice, stake tops the list. i am not talking about financial scam here. i said hiding stats makes the site questionable. becouse for this idiot's if site paid it is legit, they even didnt know about sites like 999dice. |
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Hey,
We just recently removed those from our sites. Decision to do that was split between us but eventually we decided to do it like that because most casinos don't show you stats.
But until we maybe decide to bring that back you can always contact our 24/7 support to get your stats anytime you want them.
Why are you lying mladen ? You didnt recently removed stats from site, devs make it more than 1 year ago. How you can trust this site if CEO was beggar? Check Micro first posts on this forum, before joining this scam project he was begging for cents xD Remember people without honor never change. |
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You can track your profit for any given session using livestats which almost no other casinos offer, you can message support to get your overall profit which includes a ton of different factors like races,rakeback,reloads, coupons. We have been looking at making it so you can download an excel document with a full breakdown of everything but it has always been clear on the stats modal that you can message live support to get your overall data breakdown within minutes. I cannot for the life of me see how this makes primedice/stake a "scam" if anything it is slightly inconvenient and is on our radar.
No member has validated the statement about contacting support and everything will be given so far. What's stated in your site could be different from what you actually do like the case of this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285404.msg55483944#msg55483944 Can you look into that? Downloadable file sounds good. My assumption is that they gave that user their overall stats, they were not able to break it down to only the most recent month. Bijan you and your boyfriend Edward are one of biggest scammers in bitcoin history, but i must say that you are genius thief. People still defending you cuz they got withdraw and they are thinking that's your sites are legit. Someday you will pay for this scam, i really believe in it. BTW: You know how Stunna friends call him? "Most successful guy in Australia"  You must understand that this sites are not legit and stunna is thief. Please stunna tell people from where you take money to open primedice I must add that cenzorship on stake/pd topics working perfect. |
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Why i cant recovery my account name/password? I didnt log in for few years and i still have some balance left.
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Feel sorry for the dude, hope he will realize his mistake. Perhaps the most famous example of the gambler's fallacy occurred in a game of roulette at the Monte Carlo Casino on August 18, 1913, when the ball fell in black 26 times in a row. This was an extremely uncommon occurrence: the probability of a sequence of either red or black occurring 26 times in a row is (18/37)^26-1 or around 1 in 66.6 million, assuming the mechanism is unbiased. Gamblers lost millions of francs betting against black, reasoning incorrectly that the streak was causing an imbalance in the randomness of the wheel, and that it had to be followed by a long streak of red. Source.That said, 10 times in a row should be pretty common. When i see this i always refer back to one of this videos... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvIGNXY21Y&t=9s Heh... You was beggar how people can trust you ? Please report and delete my comment BEGGAR. |
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LN: 7
UN: 3xOGBobbyJohnson88
Really ? You made alt account to join ENDED giveaway? |
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Mr.Spammer plz tell us how many he lost before this bet ? |
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Question related to the rambo raffle. In case the winner wont take the lambo and willing to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value.
Is it possible? As I think there are some people who do not want to get a huge attention from other people where he lives.
Or perhaps for some other reasons like something related to TAX.
Here in my country for example, the TAX system is not really friendly as we need to pay some percent from value of the stuff.
Lets say someone from my country win the Lambo, he/she will need to pay at least 17.5% from the value of the Lambo.
So let us know whether it is possible to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value or not?
We're strong believers in making it happen, if the winner prefers to get the cash value in crypto that is a possibility. However I know our CEO is quite excited to go drop off the keys if possible. Your ceo mladen who was begging for bitcoins couple years ago? |
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Eddie Miroslav is fake surname. I dont know why he hide his real name if he is making live streams xD
His real name is Edward Craven.
Guess that he doesn't want those who lost their savings playing on Stake to go banging on his door, I guess  I dont understand why he is showing his face xD |
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There’s a lovely little coffee shop in NSW
A visit is due!!!!
You think that he will pay you for that info? People got this info for years you idiot xDDD That’s just the start. Eddies home address and the details of his staff at easygo and mebit coming soon!! You will paste his old address where he was 10 years ago xD? And everything about easygo and mebit you can find in google THEY DIDNT HIDE IT. https://www.instagram.com/easygogaming/ They are scammer's but you cant do nothing with it Dont waste your time |
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There’s a lovely little coffee shop in NSW
A visit is due!!!!
You think that he will pay you for that info? People got this info for years you idiot xDDD |
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There is rarely anything that could damage the name stake, they did so many great things and they have been around for so many years (both as stake but even longer as primedice) that I can guarantee you that people have a lot of credit with them, they could make some small mistakes like this and not damage their situation, that is why I believe that they are fine right now and it will not damage them.
If they were a company that was a bit shady and people were not really sure about, they could have damaged it, the thing itself is definitely damaging, but when a company like stake does it, that is fine. Obviously this is not common, if one day it becomes common and gets more and more in stake world, they will eventually get some damage, but for that to happen they have to make a plenty of mistake.
I agree that this isn't enough to damage any reputations but it does hurt the company's image over the long run if they keep mis-communicating something like this. It's a very tiny thing to be fair, but all of these things gather into a big ball of hate if you let them accumulate. The argument that a company is not shady because they always did majority things in a good way did not help a recent sportsbook who was dragged through the mud for bad communication with a player. But anyway:) Let's keep eyes on the birthday now! This company is really shady. From where they have money to open primedice? Edward Craven stolen them from runspace user's. Remember, scammer never change, please dont trust them. And if you want you can check micro first posts on this forum, he was beggar. Google edward5010, this is pd and stake owner Edward Craven. |
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You're wrong here. Stake is now part of Curacao Gambling, quite doesn't matter what the admin has to say..  The Curacao Gambling is just a license issuer, not the owner. Stake.com is owned by Medium Rare NV, or specifically by the founder Eddie Miroslav. Betradar, the supplier and provider of sports betting data services, and Stake.com, one of the biggest crypto casinos, just officialised their partnership with a 2 years agreement launching Stake sportsbook.
Stake.com (Medium Rare N.V.) is a cryptocurrency casino that had, in less than 3 years of operation, more than 11 billion bets done in their platform, the whole group has an impeccable baggage on the crypto sphere with more than 50 billion bets accumulated between Stake and Primedice brands.
Some of the biggest Sportsbooks in the world are way bellowed the half a billion bets per year mark. Stake has created an aggressive plan for, in less than one year, being able to replicate their success in their own and unique casino games into their new Sportsbook product and for that, they decided to join forces with Betradar’s MTS team.
On the other hand, Betradar from the Sportsradar group, after securing exclusive deals with competitions like NBA, FIFA, NFL and NHL are now diving into the cryptocurrency sphere with Stake’s agreement.
Owner of the Stake platform, Eddie Miroslav is looking forward to the venture ahead, and is excited to introduce sports to his casino players. SourceEddie Miroslav is fake surname. I dont know why he hide his real name if he is making live streams xD His real name is Edward Craven. |
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Spamming for money is allowed here? This guy is really annoying, he even dont hide that pd/stake hire him for spamming. |
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When you confiscate winnings and tell players to roll over 25x, yes its kind of stealing.
Nobody confiscated your winnings. The match was a push and everyone had their bets returned in accordance to our terms and conditions and we didn't collect any platform fee. Other members on bitcointalk had pointed this out: Bitbrawlers is a parimutuel game. Odds are variable and the prize pool is from other players betting. Betroar has no stake in who wins, loses, or if there is a push. They collect a platform fee after each match.
If anything, Betroar has an incentive to have a result be determined, as they only collect the platform fee when winnings are paid out. In the event of a push, you simply get your original stake back, without any cut taken. All you are now doing is making baseless accusations possibly because you want more free bitcoin. You're not getting anymore free bitcoin. You didn't complain when you were winning and cashing out to your wallet. Why is that? Why is it now suddenly you are being a sore loser and making accusations when luck doesn't go your way? You didn't even lose your own money. It was all bonus money. In fact you didn't make a single deposit into Betroar, yet you want to be treated like some kind of VIP despite having the attitude of a typical person on Yelp who thinks they are a food critic. Probably fair doesn't mean what you think it means. So called "provably fair" gambling games use a deterministic pseudo random number generator with a server and client seed. And "provably fair" is a marketing gimmick because nothing is stopping the gambling operator from manually inserting seeds they know of in advance in order to rig the game while still appearing to have a "provably fair" hash. Bitbrawlers does not use a deterministic pseudo random number generator like this and therefore doesn't use the "provably fair" gimmick. You'll notice that sportsbooks also never use the "provably fair" gimmick either for the same reason. Do you know what else isn't provably fair? Physical card games. Physical dice games. Sports matches. Horse Races. Yet people still bet on these things. Bitbrawlers is the same. It doesn't use a pseudo random number generator with a seed pair, therefore it doesn't use the "provably fair" gimmick. . Betroar doesn't pay Saltybet any money. It is a public third party stream watched by hundreds of users. Betroar has no influence on the results of the stream. If you don't like Bitbrawlers that's fine, nobody is forcing you to play. We can still offer it whether you like it or not. Players can decide if they want to play or not. We offer traditional sports and esports betting as an alternative for anyone not interested in Bitbrawlers. And Donsifon is a confirmed cheater who placed bets after the event started and several bitcointalk members turned against him a few pages ago after seeing the proof. Now he just wants to stir up some drama. Here's a quick reminder who Donsifon is: During our cashout review, we were able to confirm that donsifon had been abusing an exploit that we have since patched. This exploit allowed players to keep multiple browser tabs open in order to change their wagers after an event has concluded. We patched this exploit on January 24th. Below is our record of this users bets that were made after betting activity:  Betting that took advantage of the vulnerability is highlighted in yellow. We understand that players will always try and get an edge and bend the rules of our site to their advantage. However, given the scale of the exploitation in this case and the ensuing abuse to our suport staff from this player, we decided to ban them from future action on BetRoar and return his original deposit. Below is a PM of Donsifon trying to extort money from us: Indeed. Here’s the “proposal” donsifon sent to us:  Does this not read like an extortion letter? Why would someone who isn’t a cheater want to settle for 50% like that? Isn’t that something only a cheater would do after they’re caught? He also sent us a threatening message telling us he will destroy our search engine ranking if we don’t let him withdraw any amount that he wants:  And here is the reaction from the bitcointalk community about Donsifon:
Well in this case I think user should consider himself lucky for even getting his initial deposit back . Other casino usually seize all funds and lock the accounts permanently.
Personally I agree with AlexSimion. I would want to lay as low as possible and not attract attention if I found a bug like that. I think going all in like that would look pretty fishy. Also no sorry but that "50% discount" especially after seeing those messages that guy posted looks really shady to me. It just screams "Russian shakedown" to me.
It does look like a shake down after reading all this. I like betroar except that sometimes it takes a while for bets to be graded. I'm still waiting on XFL games from Saturday and Sunday.
donsifon you are fucking retarded or what xD?
Why you want only 0.2 if they "own" you 0.4 xD
Why u send them message that if you get 0.2 you will play only on betroar xDDDD?
I have feeling that you find some exploid and want scam betroar.
You act like scammer xD
EI BITBRAWLERS, BIG MOTHER FUCKER SCAMMER, Why u dont put the real bet history??' I will show you again= https://pasteboard.co/J6d8OOH.jpgThe real bets: https://pasteboard.co/J6dbSSq.jpgwhy u manipulate my last bets,, motherfucker??? WHY U LOWER MY ODDS.... WHY YOU GIVE MORE BONUSES WHEN I ALREADY HAD THE DEPOSIT BONUS?? Because is you strategy that I will not finish the rollover bonus 25x. But of course,, the motherfucker bitbrawler scammer,, will tell you another history. And of course,, this retard still setted the bets after 2,3,4... days.
why u dont talk about u sportsbook license,, mother fucker?'?? where is you license?? you silence like a bitch now???Wtf scammmer, betroar support showed proof that you was cheating.You and Cry just trying to get free money from this site. |
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I do not understand why people are taking it so personally, I may be shitty spammer (just like you described) that has nothing to do with my objections regarding betraor.
They solved your problem and gave you some 100k sats, thats ok mate but that does not lead to the conclusion that they are running a fair casino. You should read my earlier post where I said clearly that I do not want any money from them anymore ( though they owe me).
Let them answer my objections (no matter how silly those are in your opinion) after all thats why we are here in this wonderful forum. Apart from unregulated and unlicensed they are not keeping proper records (like mentioning odds in bit brawler matches).
Am I wrong asking this?
You are making shit in this topic to get more money thats why people take it personally. We both know why you said you dont want money from them(cents is not enough, you want more). There is no legal bitcoin gambling casino, PD and Stake have some fake curacao license, you need to pay for it. The license doesnt mean nothing in gambling world. Of course you are not wrong but they already answer on your question and you keep spamming and make mess to get money. |
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You may say whatever you want to. But the matter of the fact is my objections are sound and valid. You have every right to boost your post counts because of signature campaign (I am not judging you based upon that ). Yes I am not satisfied with betroar operating with low transparency in this forum. Its not all about my 0.0035 btc, I will not accept any cent from them (Hope that will make things easier), I just want them to answer my objections which is clearly they are avoiding.
The matter of the fact is that they've actually replied to your objections. So I'm really curious what are you expecting to hear ? bit brawlers the game is not provably fair , as it can't be done. ( Stunna who is I think someone in a high position on stake also confirmed that they couldn't figure it out how to make this type of game provably fair . Though considering it's a PVP , and a stream from saltybet I'm confused as to how you think betroar is scamming you. About the pushed bets part , get over it , the biggest gambling platform push bets when certain situations occur , error etc . Also I'm very curious why you brought "donsifon"'s case back to live and why are you claiming nothing was done then , and no answers etc when they've actually provided all evidence to close that case ? Are you connected with him in some way ? If you got time please look my previous posts there are at least 4-5 times when I supported people who got scammed by bunch of thugs running casino or helping them to put forward their case with respect to reputed casinos so that they can get justice. 'donsifon' is also one of them and as per my judgment there is not much valid evidence against him to confiscate his winnings. One can argue same for you also getting paid my betroar or collaborating with them to propagate their unlicensed and not provably fair casino. But I will not go on that level. As far as provably fair system is concerned they are taking hefty fees and using salty bet platform so natural objection is, 'is there any possibility that salty bet is collaborating or exploiting betroar's platform.', since they are unregulated this becomes more and more important. Until they come up with some valid answers I will suggest any player to, Stay away form betroar as they are unregulated and not provably fair.You are so annoying type of scammer/shittyspammer. If casino didnt pay you enough money or if you bust free money, you start crying to get more money. In every gambling topic stake/primedice/bitsler there are people like you. Even when i had some problem with betroar, they solve it really fast. They make mistake to give 100k sat for everyone and scammers like you and don sifone wanna make a lot of money from this promo. So better dont post becouse nobody care about your fake opinion. |
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You pushed my winning bet for no reason , no glitch, nothing, clear win. I realized that it might me something related to capping imposed by you on winning because earlier also (some month ago) my all in bet got pushed for no reason. Please credit my remaining wining amount.
If you feel your bet is graded in error then please use the dispute system we have in place in your betroar account where you view graded bets. Also your screenshot is not showing up. His screenshoot:  |
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Scammers were not excluded from this promo. I'm sorry you missed out on the free $10. Wait until allowance comes through next week before gambling.
How i can miss something that never come xD ? And you really think i care about some 10$? I just don't like liars that why i will expose your fake promo |
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