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[bitbrawlers]

We have addressed our fairness policy with regards to Bitbrawlers before crycryptocry. We have no control of the twitch stream nor the results it produces. See our original quote below and the user (a competitor actually) we responded to below:

This is pretty cool I've actually had the same idea for a long time, even thinking about directly using saltybet. The only issue in my opinion is that you have to trust saltybet not to manipulate the odds and results of the fight somehow. Our team was never able to figure out how to make this provably fair but it is a pretty novel idea at least

So fairness in Bit Brawlers is something we have given a lot of consideration to and we addressed this a little bit earlier in the thread.

Some gambling games are able to prove fairness by providing a hash that can be confirmed after the play is over. Of course this is not possible for unpredictable events like football games, horse races and Bit Brawlers matches. We feel this kind of game absolutely requires unpredictability, as players can certainly tell the difference between a crazy unpredictable fighting game match and a pre-scripted animation like a cheesy slot machine bonus game.

So the short answer is no, we can not prove fairness in that same way a predetermined game can. Also, just the same as the NFL cannot prove it's players aren't on PED's and deflating footballs, there is a certain risk of the markets being manipulated by the Stream Operators but we have some ways to mitigate that. We would very much appreciate your thoughts on these

1. We are able to switch streams at a moment's notice. We believe that it is in the stream owners best interest to keep the game fair and unpredictable. Not only do we have detailed stat tracking, these streams with live audiences also have hundreds of users, many of whom are keeping stats themselves.

2. In addition to statistics on the fights themselves, consistent analysis of player bet history should quickly reveal any irregular activity or collusion in manipulating the parimutuel pool.

3. In the event we do not have a trusted stream to broadcast, we are able to begin our own M.U.G.E.N. stream and broadcast ourselves. However, we strongly feel that this is a downgrade in fairness compared to using popular streams because of the trust and reputation implications. As a player, would you prefer us using our own stream or a 3rd party like SaltyBet?

[coincruncher1982]

Took money for a review campaign for Betnomi and didn't complete the review requirement until a neg was left.

Could have been a simple mistake by this user so this doesn't make them untrustworthy, just leaving the neutral as a reminder for myself.
  

LOL check out this trust feedback I found on Crycryptocry. Crycryptocry is a confirmed lazy hypocritical freeloader that doesn't even bother doing the work until someone leaves neg trust.

So on top of bitching and moaning after you already cashed out your winnings, you also don't follow through with your own commitments. Nice. Hypocrisy confirmed.

[CryCrptoCry]

We have addressed our fairness policy with regards to Bitbrawlers before crycryptocry. We have no control of the twitch stream nor the results it produces. See our original quote below and the user (a competitor actually) we responded to below:

This is pretty cool I've actually had the same idea for a long time, even thinking about directly using saltybet. The only issue in my opinion is that you have to trust saltybet not to manipulate the odds and results of the fight somehow. Our team was never able to figure out how to make this provably fair but it is a pretty novel idea at least

So fairness in Bit Brawlers is something we have given a lot of consideration to and we addressed this a little bit earlier in the thread.

Some gambling games are able to prove fairness by providing a hash that can be confirmed after the play is over. Of course this is not possible for unpredictable events like football games, horse races and Bit Brawlers matches. We feel this kind of game absolutely requires unpredictability, as players can certainly tell the difference between a crazy unpredictable fighting game match and a pre-scripted animation like a cheesy slot machine bonus game.

So the short answer is no, we can not prove fairness in that same way a predetermined game can. Also, just the same as the NFL cannot prove it's players aren't on PED's and deflating footballs, there is a certain risk of the markets being manipulated by the Stream Operators but we have some ways to mitigate that. We would very much appreciate your thoughts on these

1. We are able to switch streams at a moment's notice. We believe that it is in the stream owners best interest to keep the game fair and unpredictable. Not only do we have detailed stat tracking, these streams with live audiences also have hundreds of users, many of whom are keeping stats themselves.

2. In addition to statistics on the fights themselves, consistent analysis of player bet history should quickly reveal any irregular activity or collusion in manipulating the parimutuel pool.

3. In the event we do not have a trusted stream to broadcast, we are able to begin our own M.U.G.E.N. stream and broadcast ourselves. However, we strongly feel that this is a downgrade in fairness compared to using popular streams because of the trust and reputation implications. As a player, would you prefer us using our own stream or a 3rd party like SaltyBet?

You have not addressed anything, Please explain if your bit brawlers are provably fair or not and if yes then how?

[coincruncher1982]

We have addressed our fairness policy with regards to Bitbrawlers before crycryptocry. We have no control of the twitch stream nor the results it produces. See our original quote below and the user (a competitor actually) we responded to below:

This is pretty cool I've actually had the same idea for a long time, even thinking about directly using saltybet. The only issue in my opinion is that you have to trust saltybet not to manipulate the odds and results of the fight somehow. Our team was never able to figure out how to make this provably fair but it is a pretty novel idea at least

So fairness in Bit Brawlers is something we have given a lot of consideration to and we addressed this a little bit earlier in the thread.

Some gambling games are able to prove fairness by providing a hash that can be confirmed after the play is over. Of course this is not possible for unpredictable events like football games, horse races and Bit Brawlers matches. We feel this kind of game absolutely requires unpredictability, as players can certainly tell the difference between a crazy unpredictable fighting game match and a pre-scripted animation like a cheesy slot machine bonus game.

So the short answer is no, we can not prove fairness in that same way a predetermined game can. Also, just the same as the NFL cannot prove it's players aren't on PED's and deflating footballs, there is a certain risk of the markets being manipulated by the Stream Operators but we have some ways to mitigate that. We would very much appreciate your thoughts on these

1. We are able to switch streams at a moment's notice. We believe that it is in the stream owners best interest to keep the game fair and unpredictable. Not only do we have detailed stat tracking, these streams with live audiences also have hundreds of users, many of whom are keeping stats themselves.

2. In addition to statistics on the fights themselves, consistent analysis of player bet history should quickly reveal any irregular activity or collusion in manipulating the parimutuel pool.

3. In the event we do not have a trusted stream to broadcast, we are able to begin our own M.U.G.E.N. stream and broadcast ourselves. However, we strongly feel that this is a downgrade in fairness compared to using popular streams because of the trust and reputation implications. As a player, would you prefer us using our own stream or a 3rd party like SaltyBet?

You have not addressed anything, Please explain if your bit brawlers are provably fair or not and if yes then how?

It's been addressed above already. Improve your reading comprehension you sourpus. It's no different than a sporting event or a horse racing simulcast. None of these events are provably fair in the way you're thinking of where a hash is generated. Why? Because it's not a deterministic event generated by a pseudo random number generator. It's an unpredictable real life event.
 
Also they have no control of the stream. It's controlled by Saltybet which is third party streamer on twitch.
 
You already received 0.003 BTC cashed out into your own personal wallet by Betroar, and it's been proven you're a hypocritical freeloader that collects BTC without fulfilling the work unless someone gives you neg trust like bitcointalk user yahoo62278 had to do after he paid you and you didn't fulfill your obligations. It's time to fuck off and move on.

[CryCrptoCry]

Does salty bet knows that there is a betting platform like betroar who is using their AI controlled matches to make hefty fee every match. Is there any possibility to collaborate  with salty bet or salty bet exploiting their platform? Are you paying them any fee? And please do not compare these AI matches with real sports. And most importantly what about those frequent blank screens to just seize players fund and tell them to rollover 25x. Who control those blank screens and missing betting records.

[coincruncher1982]

Does salty bet knows that there is a betting platform like betroar who is using their AI controlled matches to make hefty fee every match. Is there any possibility to collaborate  with salty bet or salty bet exploiting their platform? Are you paying them any fee? And please do not compare these AI matches with real sports. And most importantly what about those frequent blank screens to just seize players fund and tell them to rollover 25x. Who control those blank screens and missing betting records.

I personally haven't experienced these blank screens. Maybe your Internet is just complete shit? Where are you located? Who is your ISP? Can you provide a trace route between you and twitch (who is hosting the stream)?

Also how come you're avoiding the topic of you taking free bitcoin from yahoo62278 and then not fulfilling your obligations until he hit you with negative trust?

Dude it sounds like you're bitter that you lost your 0.0034 BTC in bonus money in one blow. The only one who is at fault is you for making a bad decision. Also you've apparently been playing Bitbrawlers for a while now. Why are you now suddenly being so bitter despite cashing out successfully multiple times? Is it because the free bitcoin stopped hitting your pockets so you end up acting no different than a shake down artist and just bad mouth an operator that paid you multiple times?

But the thing is you already got paid out 0.003 BTC today by betroar plus multiple times several months ago, and now that you lost it sounds like you are fishing for more free bonus BTC by making up accusations.

[CryCrptoCry]

Does salty bet knows that there is a betting platform like betroar who is using their AI controlled matches to make hefty fee every match. Is there any possibility to collaborate  with salty bet or salty bet exploiting their platform? Are you paying them any fee? And please do not compare these AI matches with real sports. And most importantly what about those frequent blank screens to just seize players fund and tell them to rollover 25x. Who control those blank screens and missing betting records.

I personally haven't experienced these blank screens. Maybe your Internet is just complete shit? Where are you located? Who is your ISP? Can you provide a trace route between you and twitch (who is hosting the stream)?

Also how come you're avoiding the topic of you taking free bitcoin from yahoo62278 and then not fulfilling your obligations until he hit you with negative trust?

Dude it sounds like you're bitter that you lost your 0.0034 BTC in bonus money in one blow. The only one who is at fault is you for making a bad decision. Also you've apparently been playing Bitbrawlers for a while now. Why are you now suddenly being so bitter despite cashing out successfully multiple times? Is it because the free bitcoin stopped hitting your pockets so you end up acting no different than a shake down artist and just bad mouth an operator that paid you multiple times?

But the thing is you already got paid out 0.003 BTC today by betroar plus multiple times several months ago, and now that you lost it sounds like you are fishing for more free bonus BTC by making up accusations.

Make as many personal attacks you want to make. But my questions are still  unanswered about salty bet collaborating or exploiting betroar platform.. You can not offer any games which you cannot prove fair, as simple as that. Beside those obvious glitches and blank screens, even if I gave them benefit of doubt.

[coincruncher1982]

Make as many personal attacks you want to make. But my questions are still  unanswered about salty bet collaborating or exploiting betroar platform.. You can not offer any games which you cannot prove fair, as simple as that. Beside those obvious glitches and blank screens, even if I gave them benefit of doubt.

They can offer any games they want you fucking idiot. It's up to the gambler to decide whether to play or not. Is Soccer provably fair? What about Football? What about when you spin a physical roulette wheel? Is that provably fair?
 
None of these are provably fair because they're not generated by a deterministic pseudo random number generator.

Also your accusation of saltybet collaborating or exploiting betroar is totally baseless and it's all because you're a sour little bitch that is mad that you lost a bet of 0.0034 BTC despite winning and cashing out multiple times.
 
Furthermore it's not a personal attack for me to remind the community that yahoo62278 paid you BTC and you failed to fulfill the work until he gave you negative trust. It is a factual event that happened and puts your character into question.
 
All you are doing here is trying to fish for free BTC. You're hoping that you become so insufferable that Betroar will give you free BTC just to shut your conspiracy theory ass down. But then problem with that is you're fucking unbearable even when you have free BTC to play with, despite you cashing out BTC multiple times to your wallet from betroar.

[donsifon]

Make as many personal attacks you want to make. But my questions are still  unanswered about salty bet collaborating or exploiting betroar platform.. You can not offer any games which you cannot prove fair, as simple as that. Beside those obvious glitches and blank screens, even if I gave them benefit of doubt.

They can offer any games they want you fucking idiot. It's up to the gambler to decide whether to play or not. Is Soccer provably fair? What about Football? What about when you spin a physical roulette wheel? Is that provably fair?
 
None of these are provably fair because they're not generated by a deterministic pseudo random number generator.

Also your accusation of saltybet collaborating or exploiting betroar is totally baseless and it's all because you're a sour little bitch that is mad that you lost a bet of 0.0034 BTC despite winning and cashing out multiple times.
 
Furthermore it's not a personal attack for me to remind the community that yahoo62278 paid you BTC and you failed to fulfill the work until he gave you negative trust. It is a factual event that happened and puts your character into question.
 
All you are doing here is trying to fish for free BTC. You're hoping that you become so insufferable that Betroar will give you free BTC just to shut your conspiracy theory ass down. But then problem with that is you're fucking unbearable even when you have free BTC to play with, despite you cashing out BTC multiple times to your wallet from betroar.

The real fucking IDIOT its you coincruncher1982,, or maybe I will call you,, LITTLE BETROAR BITCH,,, the little doggy here insulting everyone,,  I see u are happy sucking the dick of betroar everytime someone is talking about this SCAM SITE.

One question for you, Coinbitch1982,,, What LICENSE has BETROAR?? ANY SPORTSBOOK LICENSE???

Of course, someone so retard as you, cant asnwer this.

More than 6 months and still bugs with the bets.... LOL what a gang of retards. Its seems that they are here only to steal money from people.

Stay away from this SCAM SITE

[coincruncher1982]

Its seems that they are here only to steal money from people.

Who did betroar steal from? Not you. It's already been proven that you cheated the site. Multiple people sided against you on bitcointalk. Do I need to bring up quotes from two pages ago? You're still mad about it and want to use this opportunity to bash betroar.
 
And what about CryCrptoCry? Did they steal from him? No. He got paid out multiple times. He's whining because he lost a bet.

And what's so wrong with defending betroar? They paid me out multiple times, and I enjoy betting with them. So yes you can consider me a bit of a fan boy as a result.

I don't know about the status of betroar's license but lots of bitcoin casinos operate without a license. Bitvest and Nitrogen are two examples. Why are you suddenly crying about this now when you didn't say a peep about it when you were proven to be a cheater?

Before you start calling other people retards and idiots, try not to talk like a drunk behind the keyboard every time you post.

[donsifon]

Its seems that they are here only to steal money from people.

Who did betroar steal from? Not you. It's already been proven that you cheated the site. Multiple people sided against you on bitcointalk. Do I need to bring up quotes from two pages ago? You're still mad about it and want to use this opportunity to bash betroar.
 
And what about CryCrptoCry? Did they steal from him? No. He got paid out multiple times. He's whining because he lost a bet.

And what's so wrong with defending betroar? They paid me out multiple times, and I enjoy betting with them. So yes you can consider me a bit of a fan boy as a result.

I don't know about the status of betroar's license but lots of bitcoin casinos operate without a license. Bitvest and Nitrogen are two examples. Why are you suddenly crying about this now when you didn't say a peep about it when you were proven to be a cheater?

Before you start calling other people retards and idiots, try not to talk like a drunk behind the keyboard every time you post.

You compare Betroar with Nitrogen.... LOL!!!  ( you should compare it with Malubit or Cleobet)

Not only u are the OFFICIAL LITTLE BITCH, defending SCAMMERS, you are showing some mental retardation too, the same mental retardation of betroar workers when they are 2 or 3 days to setted a bet.

do you know what is Alexa Rank? Of course not, someone so retard cant know this.

Before talking shit, find some information before compare this scam site with others.

Where is the LICENSE to run the sportsbook, to take the odds from Pinnacle... ? STAY AWAY FROM SCAM SITE

[CryCrptoCry]

Its seems that they are here only to steal money from people.

Who did betroar steal from? Not you. It's already been proven that you cheated the site. Multiple people sided against you on bitcointalk. Do I need to bring up quotes from two pages ago? You're still mad about it and want to use this opportunity to bash betroar.
 
And what about CryCrptoCry? Did they steal from him? No. He got paid out multiple times. He's whining because he lost a bet.

And what's so wrong with defending betroar? They paid me out multiple times, and I enjoy betting with them. So yes you can consider me a bit of a fan boy as a result.

I don't know about the status of betroar's license but lots of bitcoin casinos operate without a license. Bitvest and Nitrogen are two examples. Why are you suddenly crying about this now when you didn't say a peep about it when you were proven to be a cheater?

Before you start calling other people retards and idiots, try not to talk like a drunk behind the keyboard every time you post.

When you confiscate winnings and tell players to roll over 25x, yes its kind of stealing. And yes I got paid multiple times so what? Every legit sports book pays multiple times but no body boasted for them like you. And yes I forgot the license part plus my objection to the fairness of bit brawler matches are still valid and unanswered.

[bitbrawlers]

When you confiscate winnings and tell players to roll over 25x, yes its kind of stealing.

Nobody confiscated your winnings. The match was a push and everyone had their bets returned in accordance to our terms and conditions and we didn't collect any platform fee.

Other members on bitcointalk had pointed this out:

Bitbrawlers is a parimutuel game. Odds are variable and the prize pool is from other players betting. Betroar has no stake in who wins, loses, or if there is a push. They collect a platform fee after each match.

If anything, Betroar has an incentive to have a result be determined, as they only collect the platform fee when winnings are paid out. In the event of a push, you simply get your original stake back, without any cut taken.

All you are now doing is making baseless accusations possibly because you want more free bitcoin. You're not getting anymore free bitcoin.
 
You didn't complain when you were winning and cashing out to your wallet. Why is that? Why is it now suddenly you are being a sore loser and making accusations when luck doesn't go your way? You didn't even lose your own money. It was all bonus money. In fact you didn't make a single deposit into Betroar, yet you want to be treated like some kind of VIP despite having the attitude of a typical person on Yelp who thinks they are a food critic.

Probably fair doesn't mean what you think it means. So called "provably fair" gambling games use a deterministic pseudo random number generator with a server and client seed. And "provably fair" is a marketing gimmick because nothing is stopping the gambling operator from manually inserting seeds they know of in advance in order to rig the game while still appearing to have a "provably fair" hash.
 
Bitbrawlers does not use a deterministic pseudo random number generator like this and therefore doesn't use the "provably fair" gimmick. You'll notice that sportsbooks also never use the "provably fair" gimmick either for the same reason.

Do you know what else isn't provably fair? Physical card games. Physical dice games. Sports matches. Horse Races. Yet people still bet on these things. Bitbrawlers is the same. It doesn't use a pseudo random number generator with a seed pair, therefore it doesn't use the "provably fair" gimmick. .

Betroar doesn't pay Saltybet any money. It is a public third party stream watched by hundreds of users. Betroar has no influence on the results of the stream.
 
If you don't like Bitbrawlers that's fine, nobody is forcing you to play. We can still offer it whether you like it or not. Players can decide if they want to play or not. We offer traditional sports and esports betting as an alternative for anyone not interested in Bitbrawlers.
 
And Donsifon is a confirmed cheater who placed bets after the event started and several bitcointalk members turned against him a few pages ago after seeing the proof. Now he just wants to stir up some drama.

Here's a quick reminder who Donsifon is:

During our cashout review, we were able to confirm that donsifon had been abusing an exploit that we have since patched. This exploit allowed players to keep multiple browser tabs open in order to change their wagers after an event has concluded. We patched this exploit on January 24th.

Below is our record of this users bets that were made after betting activity:



Betting that took advantage of the vulnerability is highlighted in yellow. We understand that players will always try and get an edge and bend the rules of our site to their advantage. However, given the scale of the exploitation in this case and the ensuing abuse to our suport staff from this player, we decided to ban them from future action on BetRoar and return his original deposit.

Below is a PM of Donsifon trying to extort money from us:

Indeed. Here’s the “proposal” donsifon sent to us:



Does this not read like an extortion letter? Why would someone who isn’t a cheater want to settle for 50% like that? Isn’t that something only a cheater would do after they’re caught?

He also sent us a threatening message telling us he will destroy our search engine ranking if we don’t let him withdraw any amount that he wants:

And here is the reaction from the bitcointalk community about Donsifon:

Well in this case I think user should consider himself lucky for even getting his initial deposit back . Other casino usually seize all funds and lock the accounts permanently.

Personally I agree with AlexSimion. I would want to lay as low as possible and not attract attention if I found a bug like that. I think going all in like that would look pretty fishy. Also no sorry but that "50% discount" especially after seeing those messages that guy posted looks really shady to me. It just screams "Russian shakedown" to me.

It does look like a shake down after reading all this. I like betroar except that sometimes it takes a while for bets to be graded. I'm still waiting on XFL games from Saturday and Sunday.

donsifon you are fucking retarded or what xD?
Why you want only 0.2 if they "own" you 0.4 xD
Why u send them message that if you get 0.2 you will play only on betroar xDDDD?
I have feeling that you find some exploid and want scam betroar.
You act like scammer xD

[CryCrptoCry]

BETROAR.IO SCAM

This bitcoin sports betting Betroar.io is SCAM. They just refused to pay me BECAUSE I WIN.

My history with this sportsbook was simple, I deposited 0,036 BTC early december 2019 and start to make bets in his sports betting page. I recieved 100% sports betting bonus instantly in my first deposit.

I made many bets, and, lucky of me, at the end of January 2020 my account was 0.43 BTC and I finish their rollover bonus of x25. It took me more than 200 bets and almost 2 months to finish this bonus.

When I was near to finish the Rollover: They tried bad tricks to me as example, lower my odds, if for example in hándicap NBA game it was almost 1,91 odds every match, then with this “bad trick” the odds go down to 1,65 or 1,7. This is an example.

Also, they tried to give me EXTRA BONUS, but I refused all because “if you get this bonus, then you must to rollover AGAIN”. This is another “Shit trick” that they do to me, but I tell them that I will not accept any extra bonus. They do this because when I am near to finish the ROLLOVER, they want you to force you to accept another bonus and doing this all the times. The main reason of this is:NEVER WITHDRAWAL.

https://pasteboard.co/IUMB7fk.jpg
(WITHDRAWAL IMAGE)

After finish the rollover bonus and contact support to “ASK” if I can make a withdrawal, I requested a withdrawal of 0,05BTC, it tooks like 5 days for withdrawal, and next day I recieved in my btc wallet 0,036 BTC and my account was BANNED.

https://pasteboard.co/IUMBrcg.jpg
(BANNED IMAGE)

At 30 January 2020, I sent an message to the a manager about WHY THEY BANNED ME, and here is the answer:

https://pasteboard.co/IUMCFGD.jpg
(REASON BANNED ACCOUNT)

After that messages,, I try to contact again, and ALL MY MESSAGES WERE IGNORED for this Mother F****.

But, the most funny, they confirmed that the rollover status on your account will be lifted. So, thats means that they “allowed me” to make a withdrawal, because I dont have more Rollover bonus.

https://pasteboard.co/IUMN7Ru.jpg

So, why you tell me that I can withdrawal and then ban my account? So sad really, THEY WILL NOT PAY MY WINNINGS, SINCE THE FIRST DAY THAT I DEPOSITED.


ABUSED SITE MECHANICS??  

I am sure you never lisen so stupid EXCUSE to ban an account with 0,4BTC ($4000) inside. And of course, I am sure If I didnt win, they will never use the term: abused site Mechanics.
You can find him in bitcointalk with username: “bitbrawlers”, giving PLENTY OF BONUSES TO EVERYONE IN THE FORUM. Of course, dont try to WIN +0,40 BTC, because you know they are not good when is time for payouts.

My account is banned with 0,4BTC more than $4000. If someone can help me to recover my account and get back my WINNING AMOUNT THAT I DESERVED. I will be grad.

Its my first time a sportsbook banned me, I play in other bitcoin sites as: sportsbet, nitrogen, fortunejack etc… and all was ok. Only the SCAMMERS OF BETROAR, dont want to pay and they told me a RIDICOLOUS EXCUSE to not pay.


LETS SEE MY “ABUSED SITE MECHANICS”
I am not a guru, I loose and I win sometimes, thats all. I play for fun.


So, LETS SEE MY DANGEROUS BETS:

https://pasteboard.co/IUMGo0R.jpg
This was my last bets, and the last 3 bets, I loose them.

WOW, really ABUSED MECHANICS! HE BETS NBA AND EUROPEAN SOCCER. Wow wow wow, this guy is dangerous, he fixed all the top professional sport matches to win from 0,036BTC to 0,40 BTC.

I have more screenshots of my bets, I only bet basketball and soccer, top leagues, nothing else.

HOLD ON!!!! Did you see the odds of NBA matches??

For example, go to my "bets image" and look on the top, the last bet: PORTLAND HCP +4 = 1,764 odds
All other Sportsbook in the world the same bet = above 2,00 odds

THATS THE REAL "ABUSE MECHANICS"!!!!!!!!  ;D;D

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That was my bad experience,, Betroar.io is SCAM, they will not pay you if you win big. They work like a pyramid scheme, pay to small amount users and ban users if they win big amount. BETROAR IS SCAM

Now is time to send Sportsbook Complaint to one very big site, betroar.io will be exposed as BITCOIN SPORTSBOOK SCAM.

Any update on this case. IMHO you must open a scam accusation against them. I am surprised that the only valid argument against you is that you sent them a pm for cashing out half of your winnings (which is totally subjective, some settles and some don't, this can not be in any sense considered as valid evidence).  After reading your post I realize that they are much much frequent with confiscating winnings and telling player to rollover x amount which they already won. I have personal hand on experience of this and plus they are not keeping transparency in running their platform which is a big alarm.
If you had lost 0.4 btc becasuse of their bug (which happened to me so many times) nothing would have happened.

STAY AWAY FROM BETROAR, THEY ARE NOT LICENSED AND NO PROVABLY FAIR.

[AlexSimion]

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Gona look into the last 2 pages a bit more later , but regarding your last case about that "update" the player donsifon was clearly caught abusing a bug and cheating the system ,  so I don't really get it why you're trying to stir shit left and right.


Do you understand the concept of provably fair ? Do you understand the concept of Pvp betting ?
To be fair I can't seem to understand why you started throwing a tantrum over here .

I'm one of the early players with betroar , got a lot of bonuses , got a lot of cash-outs from bonuses as long as I did the wagerring requirements.
Had a lot of losses aswell , one time I took a 0.004 btc bonus I got from them up to 0.17 btc and lost it before meeting the wagerring criteria .

Regarding your pushed bet , would you have  thrown a tantrum if your bet had lost but you would have received the bet $ back ? I'm assuming not .

So regardless of your attempt to be a drama queen for whatever reason you might have  ( I'm assuming you lost your balance and you're trying to bitch hoping you'll get something back )   Betroar is one of the legit ones out there. 

Are there problems , bugs , errors etc  -  Sure there are , like with any other platform , but they always communicate and fix them if the claims are actually valid , and usually they throw a pretty big btc bonus aswell for your trouble .

P.S. - quoting one of the people who tryed to scam Betroar is not gona help you gain simpaty with your claims.

[CryCrptoCry]

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Gona look into the last 2 pages a bit more later , but regarding your last case about that "update" the player donsifon was clearly caught abusing a bug and cheating the system ,  so I don't really get it why you're trying to stir shit left and right.


Do you understand the concept of provably fair ? Do you understand the concept of Pvp betting ?
To be fair I can't seem to understand why you started throwing a tantrum over here .

I'm one of the early players with betroar , got a lot of bonuses , got a lot of cash-outs from bonuses as long as I did the wagerring requirements.
Had a lot of losses aswell , one time I took a 0.004 btc bonus I got from them up to 0.17 btc and lost it before meeting the wagerring criteria .

Regarding your pushed bet , would you have  thrown a tantrum if your bet had lost but you would have received the bet $ back ? I'm assuming not .

So regardless of your attempt to be a drama queen for whatever reason you might have  ( I'm assuming you lost your balance and you're trying to bitch hoping you'll get something back )   Betroar is one of the legit ones out there.  

Are there problems , bugs , errors etc  -  Sure there are , like with any other platform , but they always communicate and fix them if the claims are actually valid , and usually they throw a pretty big btc bonus aswell for your trouble .

P.S. - quoting one of the people who tryed to scam Betroar is not gona help you gain simpaty with your claims.

You may say whatever you want to. But the matter of the fact is my objections are sound and valid. You have every right to boost your post counts because of signature campaign (I am not judging you based upon that ). Yes I am not satisfied with betroar operating with low transparency in this forum. Its not all about my 0.0035 btc, I will not accept any cent from them (Hope that will make things easier), I just want them to answer my objections which is clearly they are avoiding.

[AlexSimion]

You may say whatever you want to. But the matter of the fact is my objections are sound and valid. You have every right to boost your post counts because of signature campaign (I am not judging you based upon that ). Yes I am not satisfied with betroar operating with low transparency in this forum. Its not all about my 0.0035 btc, I will not accept any cent from them (Hope that will make things easier), I just want them to answer my objections which is clearly they are avoiding.

The matter of the fact is that they've actually replied to your objections. So I'm really curious what are you expecting to hear ?  bit brawlers the game is not provably fair , as it can't be done.  ( Stunna who is I think someone in a high position on stake also confirmed that they couldn't figure it out how to make this type of game provably fair .    Though considering it's a PVP , and a stream from saltybet I'm confused as to how you think betroar is scamming you.

About the pushed bets part , get over it , the biggest gambling platform push bets when certain situations occur , error  etc .

Also I'm very curious why you brought "donsifon"'s case back to live and why are you claiming nothing was done then , and no answers etc when they've actually provided all evidence to close that case ? Are you connected with him in some way ?

[CryCrptoCry]

You may say whatever you want to. But the matter of the fact is my objections are sound and valid. You have every right to boost your post counts because of signature campaign (I am not judging you based upon that ). Yes I am not satisfied with betroar operating with low transparency in this forum. Its not all about my 0.0035 btc, I will not accept any cent from them (Hope that will make things easier), I just want them to answer my objections which is clearly they are avoiding.

The matter of the fact is that they've actually replied to your objections. So I'm really curious what are you expecting to hear ?  bit brawlers the game is not provably fair , as it can't be done.  ( Stunna who is I think someone in a high position on stake also confirmed that they couldn't figure it out how to make this type of game provably fair .    Though considering it's a PVP , and a stream from saltybet I'm confused as to how you think betroar is scamming you.

About the pushed bets part , get over it , the biggest gambling platform push bets when certain situations occur , error  etc .

Also I'm very curious why you brought "donsifon"'s case back to live and why are you claiming nothing was done then , and no answers etc when they've actually provided all evidence to close that case ? Are you connected with him in some way ?

If you got time please look my previous posts there are at least 4-5 times when I supported people who got scammed by bunch of thugs running casino or helping them to put forward their case with respect to reputed casinos so that they can get justice. 'donsifon' is also one of them and as per my judgment there is not much valid evidence against him to confiscate his winnings. One can argue same for you also getting paid my betroar or collaborating with them to propagate their unlicensed and not provably fair   casino. But I will not go on that level. As far as provably fair system is concerned they are taking hefty fees and using salty bet platform so natural objection is, 'is there any possibility that salty bet is collaborating or exploiting betroar's platform.', since they are unregulated this becomes more and more important. Until they    come up with some valid answers I will suggest any player to,
Stay away form betroar as they are unregulated and not provably fair.

[Grab]

You may say whatever you want to. But the matter of the fact is my objections are sound and valid. You have every right to boost your post counts because of signature campaign (I am not judging you based upon that ). Yes I am not satisfied with betroar operating with low transparency in this forum. Its not all about my 0.0035 btc, I will not accept any cent from them (Hope that will make things easier), I just want them to answer my objections which is clearly they are avoiding.

The matter of the fact is that they've actually replied to your objections. So I'm really curious what are you expecting to hear ?  bit brawlers the game is not provably fair , as it can't be done.  ( Stunna who is I think someone in a high position on stake also confirmed that they couldn't figure it out how to make this type of game provably fair .    Though considering it's a PVP , and a stream from saltybet I'm confused as to how you think betroar is scamming you.

About the pushed bets part , get over it , the biggest gambling platform push bets when certain situations occur , error  etc .

Also I'm very curious why you brought "donsifon"'s case back to live and why are you claiming nothing was done then , and no answers etc when they've actually provided all evidence to close that case ? Are you connected with him in some way ?

If you got time please look my previous posts there are at least 4-5 times when I supported people who got scammed by bunch of thugs running casino or helping them to put forward their case with respect to reputed casinos so that they can get justice. 'donsifon' is also one of them and as per my judgment there is not much valid evidence against him to confiscate his winnings. One can argue same for you also getting paid my betroar or collaborating with them to propagate their unlicensed and not provably fair   casino. But I will not go on that level. As far as provably fair system is concerned they are taking hefty fees and using salty bet platform so natural objection is, 'is there any possibility that salty bet is collaborating or exploiting betroar's platform.', since they are unregulated this becomes more and more important. Until they    come up with some valid answers I will suggest any player to,
Stay away form betroar as they are unregulated and not provably fair.

You are so annoying type of scammer/shittyspammer. If casino didnt pay you enough money or if you bust free money, you start crying to get more money.
In every gambling topic stake/primedice/bitsler there are people like you.
Even when i had some problem with betroar, they solve it really fast. They make mistake to give 100k sat for everyone and scammers like you and don sifone wanna make a lot of money from this promo.
So better dont post becouse nobody care about your fake opinion.
 

[CryCrptoCry]

I do not understand why people are taking it so personally, I may be shitty spammer (just like you described) that has nothing to do with my objections regarding betraor.
They solved your problem and gave you some 100k sats, thats ok mate but that does not lead to the conclusion that they are running a fair casino. You should read my earlier post where I said clearly that I do not want any money from them anymore ( though they owe me).
Let them answer my objections (no matter how silly those are in your opinion) after all thats why we are here in this wonderful forum. Apart from unregulated and unlicensed they are not keeping proper records (like mentioning odds in bit brawler matches).  
Am I wrong asking this?