There's really no comparison. Nemus has issues.
NEMs team is so put together. Not to mention over 1200 unique active stakeholders.

What is ping pong messaging?

Pat I know you don't like this, but this would make NEM BTC!

Also, this is something that would also gain NEM exposure.

What does everyone think of this?

I think it is an AMAZING IDEA!!

This would most likely bring a lot of people into NEM. Weighing the pros and cons, I think this should be set up right away!!

No. It is not his property. He is the leader of NEM. Even if something is decentralized, there can still be a leader that everyone chooses to follow. And I am not talking about the King or even a President here either. Decentralized does not mean that we all just do whatever we like. There has to be a leader.

UP has shown time and time again that he will listen to the community if there is something they want.

For instance this example. I am not UP, but I fully agree with what he said and did. As do most of the rest of us.

So you are in the minority here. And even in a decentralized environment the single or small minority does not just get his way. This is a good thing because you make no sense to me.

PoS is the real answer. Mining isnt dead by any means. But it has a finite amount of time left

They think I've lost it. They ask over and over, so where are the actual coins? So there are no actual coins? So you have nothing?

Omg

Are you guys the ones throwing them off buildings?

Man, you guys are not fucking around in here!!

12 down, many more to go!!

Holy jesus Batman!!

 

What is really up here. Look out!!

I'm all about NEM. Ethereum has a chance in 2015. From what I read it will be a pretty big deal. It's between the two, and I'm going with NEM

So FUD hurt Nxt huh?

Damn! It won't hurt NEM. I've already made my decision that I'm going with NEM with full force. I will be ALL OVER someone who tries to hurt this coin.

Plus, there are others involved in NEM that are not going to take any shit lying down. Especially patmast3r, he will be all over these FUD spreaders!! LOL!!   

I reached the first criteria for having a successful topic. Spoenik is here!!

Thank you it wouldn't be the same without you here to slam shit around!!

But yes, I was talking about the marketing strategies above. That is exactly what a coin needs. Spotenik, sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I don't. This is no exception. I hate TV as well. Can't stand commercials. The old traditional marketing is dead in many ways. But I do believe that any coin, even a shitty clone copy could go mainstream. My hope is that it is a new innovative coin that does it. It doesn't need billions either, just professionals that know what they are doing.

I can't overstate how spot on this guy is. The first coin to do this will be the "recognized leader"!! Bitcoin will be left in the dust. Or at best number 2. The thing I think people fail to realize is the "network effect" can be easily "transferred". This is what I mean by this. I heard someone say, "don't underestimate the network effect".

Merchants accepting Bitcoin now already believe in them. Bitcoin already opened the door. Now that the door is opened, it will be very easy for "mastercard" to be added for example. This just leaves people wanting to use said coin. Look how far Bitcoin has come with no meaningful marketing push. Look at Dogecoin, just a copy of Litecoin. And they haven't  done fullscale marketing like some new internet startup would do.

I don't think it will be long now that governments are starting to make things more clear.

For one labeling Nxt a SCAM does not help your cause. Maybe you don't like some things about Nxt, but it is not a Scam.

If Numus is a scam by all means tell us why. And while you're at it, tell us what you think if NEM too. If you got the time, it will probably be as long as my posts, which I'm catching shit for. I'm realizing I got to be mire quick and to the point around here lol

Anyway, I read the thread, and I didn't get the feeling I was presented "proof". Maybe that's my fault. Maybe I should have slowed down. Tell me the reason. All I got was he was using a sockpuppet to promote the coin. Dishonest yes, was there more? What did I miss?

Good looking out btw

Ok, I mentioned that it might be a scam. I guess I said dishonest. Give us the rundown by all means lol

Thanks for the quick response. To be clear, I am not attacking NEM or trying to stir things up. I am brand new here and I have already been promoting NEM in other places in this forum. I also have put myself on the waiting list. I have read alot of this thread and I am not here to troll or point out things to hurt this movement.I think that there are many other things that need to be done other than marketing. The idea is to focus on marketing as well. As I understand NEM will be launched in June/July, I just think a marketing strategy being started now would not be premature. This will take much longer than the actual launch of NEM. If you are worried that putting some focus on our marketing strategy for mass adoption will take away resources and cause exchanges not to happen, by all means, lets focus on the exchanges. I couldn't agree more that there needs to be an exchanges set up.

We are definitely on the same page when it comes to the currency needing utility. As for merchants accepting NEM, I can see the urgency of this subject, especially considering the whole chicken and the egg analogy. Users need merchants, and merchants need users to want to use NEM in the first place.

I think the greatest thing about NEM is that it is not just a currency. It is a movement. Let's start promoting that. Let's start defining and refining what that message is. Let's start spreading that message. Let's start getting the website optimized for beginners in cryptos now. This way there will be time for it to be indexed by search engines. That way when people who have an interest in cryptos are doing research, they find NEM.

I was not saying that having an app would be the end all to get new users. It would only be toward the end of the "the buying cycle" as a "call to action" tool. ie "download the app now"

Also, this is the easy way for us to position a new user to interact with "NEM". They download the app, then there is an introduction to cryptos and using NEM, places they can buy it,  the list of places they can spend it, etc.

I know, why are we worrying about this app when the currency isn't even made yet?

I believe, and this is my opinion and I could be off base, that the app will be instrumental in making it easy for people who are new to cryptos and/or non-technical users to join our movement. They are used to downloading apps. It projects credibility.

What could it do?

It can send messages, send/receive NEM. It can have an introduction to cryptos and NEM. The main point here is an app is something that gets people from the general public one step closer to becoming ACTIVE in our movement. Having a simple app is something that would make it VERY easy for non-crypto users to join. They enter in their email address when downloading the app, and we send them the newsletter.

People hear of NEM, they read about NEM, writers write about NEM, having a free app for people to download will be mentioned. This is normal nowadays. Then they have our app, we have their email address.

Now it is up to us to follow through on our message, and inform them how to use that app and contribute to community goals in the present and future.

I tell a friend about NEM, they are interested in it, I say download the app. Then they are getting the newsletter. Hopefully their intial interest makes them an active member now.

It can also measured. We can find out more and more ways to increase downloads. We also find ways to increase the percentage of downloads to ACTIVE members.

Its JUST an app. Only ONE tool. Not the movement itself.

Most importantly, what is our message? What are other ways we can spread it as well?

I just read over the entire thread and whitepaper of Numus. They for one are very different. There is really no comparison. NEM is clearly more advanced and serious. Numus touches on a problem that all cryptos have in marketing. But offer no details of a solution. Also, early investors spilt 2.5% of the coins. Much different than NEM because they have participants, not investors. They also will receive 1 million NEM at launch. Numus is also a clone that will have none of the proposed features at launch. Mining, lotto? The list goes on why these two should not even be compared in the same thread. They are in different worlds. Also, fees will be destroyed in Numus. I am no economist, but this brings up some concerns.

Finally, there is already discussion on the Numus thread of some dishonest behavior by the devs. By all means they could be great guys and this could just be trolls.They are offering escrow, but the rate is rather high.

If a comparison is to be done, NEM should be compared to Ethereum. This is an idea that is much more in the same ballpark with NEM.

My guess is anytime there is a serious developer of a new coin, they focus on making the coin unique. This is good. But at the same time, realizing they have a unique coin, they take the build it and they will come approach.

Seriously, you hit the nail right on the head. What are we going to do to spread NEM beyond the crypto community? This is a VERY big question. I am new to cryptos. I think I am seeing things differently than others here. What I am picking up in general is the "can't see the forest through the trees" situation. Let me be clear. NEM is much farther than other coins in the sense that it is breaking the mold in many ways already. Utopian has a lot on his plate. He has been very successful in creating a coin that has the POTENTIAL to break out of the crypto circle. I have breifly gone over the trello board as well. There are many interesting ideas there. Good ones. There is just so much to do.

What I see as a challenge is a few things. Theres is so much work to do when it comes to development in the first place. This is understandably taking up much of the focus. Also, I think the larger issue is, probably not Utopian, but many can't see it in their mind. They have seen EVERY coin they have been involved with talk about this I would imagine, and fail. They are just focused on making this a success here. In the back of their mind, I just think pushing for a coin to be adopted by the public is something so big that it is a waste of time. At the very least, something we should worry about LATER. This is the first thing. The time to start to take this to the general public is now. It will take us weeks to indentify things such as: What does our Marketing Sales Funnel look like. What does the "buying cycle" look like? Who are our different target audiences? Who is in charge of our newsletter?  The list goes on.

We should have already hired a search engine optimization firm to optimize our website and begin the campaign. We should have our army of stakeholders writing articles on different subjects related to cryptos and NEM.

Seriously, what we have to figure out is this: What is our message? How are we going to spread this message? How do we track the success of the that message being spread effectively? Who are we targeting with our message?

These are just the basics, and I'm leaving things out. The major point is we have to believe that it is possible. ANY coin that hired a professional marketing company, I mean a good one, could overtake Bitcoin easily.

The main challenge I believe is the decentralized nature of cryptos. This is why this hasn't happened yet. But it will. Utopian looks like a capable leader. NEM is lucky. This is VERY hard to find.

We need to find a good marketing company to take this mainstream. If not, I can help but as with everyone my time is limited. We CAN do this together. However, I would suggest that we leave it to pros if we really want NEM to reach its goals. But either way, we need to start now.

And of course, once we have a "buyer", it should be a simple as downloading an app.

The first step is to beleive!!! Really believe!!!

Seriously, why are we not going to launch with an app? If the reason is that it can't be done then I can understand. But I would love to hear why it would be a good idea to launch without one? I don't think the argument that we won't fail if we launch without one is good enough. Seriously, when NEM launches it should be READY for non-crypto users. READY for non-technical users. No one has said to rush this. Is it NOT possible to have one ready when we lauch? Is taking into account security of the app too much to have it ready? If that is the reason fine. I can understand. But I can't see the reasoning beyond that. Let's have this discussion. Maybe I am off base here, but I worry that some of us are so tech savvy that we have a hard time knowing the importance of making things simple for non-technical users. Like we just can't realize how others don't get things that are so easy for us tech guys to understand. So we don't place enough importance on it. IMO, an app would set us apart, and at the same time, allow new people to easily adopt NEM. If you agree, say something. I am new to cryptos, and this is one thing from a long list I plan to bring up to help NEM break the crypto mold.

Seriously, this is MIND BLOWING to me. This why cryptos hasn't caught on! No one is trying! Trying in any meaningful way. The worldcoin guy for example, this is NOT in any way a meaningful attempt at mass adoption!!

Any coin, even one of these copies out there could do REAL marketing and pass Bitcoin by the end of the year!!