recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.
You should pack up your bags and go to North Korea. Everything is prohibited and everyone is safe....and severely brainwashed. I think you'd like it there.  |
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.
How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight. Are they all going to hell? And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying? Then they all go to heaven? How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this? And how many pedophile priests are in heaven? And lol @ condemning in totality. Get on a plane dude. Go see the world.  |
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Doesn't interest me personally, but between VR and robots, it should be pretty interesting to see how the sex industry evolves.
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OK, Zero Hedge has it up, and now bitcointalk.
I guess it's already "gone viral". Let's keep this going. The more the merrier.
I'll put this on my Joke List and maybe FB.
"All publicity is good publicity" is certainly true in this case!
My friends sent it to me from zerohedge as well. That was hilarious. Good man for doing it on TV |
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So as a homophobic and intolerant person towards gay people, of course it is completely fine to keep old traditions. Being gay or straight isn't a choice, so maybe put yourself in the shoes of a gay person. What are your options? Pretend to be straight to appease people that hate you, or have less rights?
Being tolerant towards homosexuality is one thing, and recognizing homosexual marriage as a regular marriage is another. Please don't confuse between the two. Personally, I don't care what the gays do in their privacy. But the problem arises when they want to have homosexual orgies in the public, and gay pride parades in the metro cities. Where are you seeing gay orgies in public? I live in Toronto, which is one of the most gay-friendly cities in the world, and I haven't seen any gay orgies in public. I haven't even seen any straight orgies in public either. And both are illegal. We have a pride parade one weekend each year and people don't take offense to this. In fact lots of straight people go and show their support, and it's a good time. It's a celebration to be able for people with differences to be accepted into society, because it simply can't happen in many parts of the world. There's also a strong correlation between the top cities in the world to live in, and top gay friendly cities. But going back to gay marriage, if you don't care about what they do in their privacy, their marriage will be private. It's not like you're going to be involved with it in any way. It basically affects their taxes, which is a completely private matter. Same sex marriage is an effective way to control the breeding. This will certainly decrease the number of homosexual kids. But such couples should not be allowed to turn an adopted straight child to homosexual. It wouldn't be effective for population control, because whether or not gay marriage is legal, gay people won't be having their own kids. Do you really think you can take a straight kid and turn them gay? If so, you must think it's also possible to take a gay kid and turn him straight? You do know ALL gay people come from straight parents right? |
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So as a homophobic and intolerant person towards gay people, of course it is completely fine to keep old traditions. Being gay or straight isn't a choice, so maybe put yourself in the shoes of a gay person. What are your options? Pretend to be straight to appease people that hate you, or have less rights?
Being tolerant towards homosexuality is one thing, and recognizing homosexual marriage as a regular marriage is another. Please don't confuse between the two. Personally, I don't care what the gays do in their privacy. But the problem arises when they want to have homosexual orgies in the public, and gay pride parades in the metro cities. Where are you seeing gay orgies in public? I live in Toronto, which is one of the most gay-friendly cities in the world, and I haven't seen any gay orgies in public. I haven't even seen any straight orgies in public either. And both are illegal. We have a pride parade one weekend each year and people don't take offense to this. In fact lots of straight people go and show their support, and it's a good time. It's a celebration to be able for people with differences to be accepted into society, because it simply can't happen in many parts of the world. There's also a strong correlation between the top cities in the world to live in, and top gay friendly cities. But going back to gay marriage, if you don't care about what they do in their privacy, their marriage will be private. It's not like you're going to be involved with it in any way. It basically affects their taxes, which is a completely private matter. |
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This will be successful IF the Government can really imprison and kill the Rich People who are behind in this Drug activities. Can this administration do it? For the whole year of this campaign the answer is a NO, I hope for the following year President Duterte can do this. Exactly, I am not being negative here but i am just being a realistic.
I hope government will also find ways to create more jobs for the poor Filipinos.
There are many big people behind in the Drug Activity Industry, and President Duterte thinks that it can be easily solved?NO.
There is money in Drugs, don't expect that it will die down that easy.
The summary of people who died on this activity is either POOR or innocent (the rich can't be killed lol)
It will never be successful. In order for a country to be drug free, every citizen needs to be against its use. As long as there is ANY demand for drugs, and there will be, there will be an opportunity for profit. As always, there will be some people that will seize this opportunity and become a supplier for the financial rewards that come with it. If you think you can kill the supplier, then another supplier will take the last one's place. And that will go on forever. Don't you find it odd that the countries that fight the "drug war" the most, have the largest drug cartels? A drug cartel cannot exist, unless strict prohibition exists. As soon as you legalize drugs, the drug cartels lose their opportunity. Unfortunately most people don't understand this very basic concept. I think it's still possible though, but it may take a long time before it can happen, i hope Mr.President will not only focus on Drugs but Focus on the Philippines as a whole Before thinking that it is possible, you should look into past attempts of drug prohibition in other countries over the last century. The only success I have seen is an approach where you become liberal with recreational use of drugs. Take Holland for example, you can walk into a shop in Amsterdam and buy cannabis or psilocybin mushrooms from a menu. You know that the product is regulated with quality control, and that you don't have to worry about "getting caught". Amsterdam doesn't have a drug problem. In fact it is maybe the friendliest city I've been to, and I've done a decent amount of traveling. And this isn't surprising, but their population has a very good understanding of drugs, because they haven't been fed a bunch of bullshit and fear mongering propaganda to manipulate the population. From this thread alone, it's very easy to see that the Filipino posts are incredibly misinformed about the classes and effects of different substances. They haven't been taught obviously, and evidently they haven't done their own research, nor do they care to. On the other hand, you can look at America, who got really "tough" with drugs. Remember Nixon coming up with "public enemy #1" as drugs in 1970? Now that approach of not understanding much about drugs, and getting really tough, was an absolute failure. Their prisons are overflowing and yet, they haven't solved their drug problem yet. In fact the problem has gotten worse. So ask yourself what is the Philippines doing differently that is going to allow it to succeed in this endeavor. And the answer is they're not doing anything differently. Dealing with drugs is not something the government or the police have the capability to deal with. It is a medical issue and must be dealt with by people in the medical field. You will never solve psychological or medical issues with force. I'm strongly agree with you, but i'm still hoping that it can happen, even if it will take a long time. I hope someday it will suppress a little ( well i hope so but drug activities are coming on off depending on the governments activities against it). Wanting a country to be drug free shouldn't be the goal. Having your liberty to enjoy your life as you please as long as you bring no harm to others, is a much better goal for society. That is to say, someone can use drugs recreationally within their own home, enjoy it, and not harm anyone. Why have laws to put a person like that in jail? Using drugs recreationally is not for everyone. It requires mental discipline, moderation and responsibility. Look at the art and music and innovation that has come people using drugs recreationally. Imagine the sound of Jimi Hendrix...what would that be without psychedelics? Guitar never sounded like that before him. If he went down a different path, he'd probably work in a store or maybe go to college lol. Of course there are other people that may not be mentally stable, may have addictive personalities and enjoy things in excess. Psychoactive drugs are likely not going to benefit a person like that. But why should all of society be punished for this? And more importantly, even people like that can get their hands on drugs even if it's illegal. These are the people that need to be informed the most, and require a support system so that they don't feel the need to escape into opioids. |
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We need to draw a fine line between a recreational drug and illegal drug. I think some drugs should be considered the former over the latter. EG Cannabis isn't really something we should be arresting people for when at the same time doctors across the country are writing scripts for opioids like it's no body's business.
Have to agree with you there. Marijuana is a relatively harmless drug although there is a lot of negative propaganda against it, which should be legal just like alcohol and tobacco. If harmful drugs such as Oxycodone can be legal, then why not weed? Legality of substances has never had anything to do with the harm associated with it. The negative propaganda has been coming from special interest groups that stand to lose something if cannabis was used freely. This includes the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries which are in direct competition with either the medicinal side, or the recreational side. But the original propaganda was actually against the hemp industry and cannabis just got looped into that deal. This came from the paper, cotton and petroleum/plastic industries, all of which can be replaced completely with hemp. To this day growing hemp (to be clear this is not psychoactive) is illegal in America. The problem is that these industries succeeded in fear mongering the general population into stripping away their own freedom, in order to lift the profitability of these special interests. This is clearly evident by the opinions on this thread. Even if cannabis WAS harmful, it should still remain legal, and we as people should educate ourselves on what we do and do not put into our own bodies. You can walk into any drug store and buy a container of advil, swallow all the pills and die. No one is preventing this from happening aside from the user being responsible for him/herself. The government doesn't give a shit about our health although they put on a front that they do, which is why cannabis is illegal. I disagree a substance shouldn't be illegal or legal based on the associated harm with it. I mean heroin is a horrible drug and really should be made illegal. Then again you're also correct in saying you can go to any store almost buy enough advil to kill yourself with which makes little sense. I think the difference those is the addictivness of it which therefore relates to the extreme stretches of reality to make that addiction happen eg live on the street or in a house with roaches. I wasn't saying that harmful drugs should be illegal, if that is what you're disagreeing with. I don't think you should go to jail for putting anything in your body. Human beings should have enough intelligence to understand what is going into our bodies, and make an informed decision about it. In keeping drugs illegal, propaganda is fed to us rather than scientific information on the effects. This forum is a perfect example of how little people understand about drugs, both legal or illegal, yet have a strong opinion on policy. You seem to have a problem with heroin, yet you don't have a problem with a doctor prescribing morphine do you? You don't understand that they are interchangeable drugs. Exact same effects. It is this exact ignorance that is the cause of everyone HATING heroin, but having absolutely no issue whatsoever with morphine. Let's remove the taboo about talking about drugs and start doing some research. |
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What happened was that a rumour circulated that the founder of Ether, Vitalik Buterin died in a car accident. All their investors panicked then the value dropped. I still think it was one of their competitors that created this fake news story. I don't think its a good idea to invest in Ether right now. Perhaps it is more stable now but I would still not suggest it. And plus, there's so many new and exciting ICO's taking place. Some of them have real potential so why no broaden your mind, do some research and invest in those. Who know's what you could get out of it. Just a thought Hope that helps.
ETH dropping down just by some ICOs project starting selling ETH from crowd sales and all market at now are bearish trend in summer. Remember in summer not good time to buying, "Sell in may and go away" still exist for remind all people invest in summer can death and loss your funds I think you misread that bold word in isabella's post. Rumor was mentioned, so meaning the post meant that it was a fake news, right? Anyways, I think Ether price drop isn't just because of that fake news. It seems to be started with that but now seems that there's a panic selling, not only in Ether but even alts. Some people are securing fiat money maybe because of August event I find it hard to believe that fake news is responsible for this type of drop. All cryptos that have been speculated and pumped up hard over the past few months has flipped around and the confidence has decreased. Ethereum isn't alone in this...they've all taken a bit of a dive lately. |
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Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.
Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course? This is illegal. Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it. This is legal. And in my country, the doctors who prescribe medications such as Oxycodone and Hydromorphone receive commissions from the pharma companies. Now things get even more murkier. These sort of opioid drugs are very addictive and harmful for the human body. Yet they are 100% legal. Isn't it terrible when your consultant for health is the same person as the salesman? Doctors are also educated to prescribe pharmaceutical solutions to problems. The approach to throw a pill at the problem, mask the symptoms, put a fake smile on your face and be on your way |
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Oregon Legislature Passes Bill To Decriminalize Cocaine, Meth, And Heroin H.B. 2355 passed both the House and Senate last week and reduces possession of illegal drugs to misdemeanors rather than felonies as long as the person in possession does not have prior drug convictions. According to a press release issued on July 7 by Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum, the bill provides for "the reduction of penalties for lower level drug offenders. The bill also reduces the maximum penalty for Class A misdemeanors by one day to avoid mandatory deportation for misdemeanants."
According to the text of the bill, drugs like LSD, MDMA, cocaine, meth, oxycodone, and heroin are essentially decriminalized in small amounts. Each drug listed is accompanied by the following text, indicating possession is only a felony if:
"(a) The person possesses a usable quantity of the controlled substance and: (A) At the time of the possession, the person has a prior felony conviction; (B) At the time of the possession, the person has two or more prior convictions for unlawful possession of a usable quantity of a controlled substance." Read more and click the links at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-decriminalize-cocaine-meth-and-heroin. Heard about this today as well. A step forward in my opinion, and in some time it will be yet another example of decriminalization of drugs having a positive impact on society. |
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Historically it does appreciate in times of uncertainty. But even with uncertainty, it may appreciate, but I don't see any reason for it to skyrocket. Cryptos will likely eventually be an easily accessible safe haven for money or currencies that become at risk of a crisis or hyperinflation.
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Taxation is not theft. Though it's not voluntary, you still pay for it. Why?
Because it is mandatory, according to the law.
It's like a toll gate fee or a box office payment. You pay the government for the services they give you. It's the government's business.
You will only feel robed if and when you're not satisfied by what the government do.
Imagine if there was a company that made up laws to force you to make purchases from the company. Then if you don't make the purchases the company forced you to, they will take their revenue and arm people, and come for you and throw you in a cage. Some people would consider that a mob. But that company just happens to be the government. Just imagine if any other company tried to do that. People would be outraged. And when we say the word government, you probably think of this wonderful benevolent company that cares about your well being. But it's a company that is concerned about existing. |
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Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.
Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course? This is illegal. Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it. This is legal. If taking these drugs can lead to addiction, then it is dangerous for you. The government cares about that its citizens were healthy both physically and mentally. Therefore, such drugs are prohibited. I'm against having them in a shared access. After all, they can buy children with fragile psyche I agree with you. The government cares with its people, futher they do this to atleast lessen crimes that often times caused by drug addiction. They knew exactly what wil happen if these drugs were abused by its people. That is perhaps there were drugs that needs prescription because of the addictive substance it have as well as causing side effects. Studies were made to prohibit drugs reasonably. Why did you both respond to my post with specific questions, with a generic answer? Because you have no clue about the difference between drugs whether legal or illegal. You have no clue which drugs do harm and which don't. Google is here for you, use it. I understand being ignorant in 1970, but you have the internet to do research and there's no excuse for ignorance anymore. You don't know that most deaths happen from LEGAL tobacco. You don't know the 2nd most deaths happen from LEGAL alcohol. You don't know the 3rd most deaths come from LEGAL prescription drugs. Now tell me how much the government cares about you? And I'm not saying any of those should be made illegal, but you are both talking some misinformed garbage. Psychedelics are not addictive at all - yet they're illegal. You're main concern about drug addiction doesn't apply here, so tell me what the government is doing to keep this illegal? Who are they caring so much about? |
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I don't think we need to really wait much longer to see the impact of this policy. It was decriminalized in 2001, so 16 years has passed, and there has not been an increase in drug use during this time, obviously less people thrown in prison, and diseases like HIV have also decreased significantly.
I'm not saying Portugal has done the perfect job, because it's only decriminalization. Full legalization would yield even more benefits, because it will involve regulation and quality control of the actual product. As long as you force people to get their drugs illegally, the real risk to their health is that the substance is not pure, and is either something different than what they're saying, or has been cut with other substances. But all in all, decriminalization is a step forward in civil liberty, which is the opposite direction of the Philippines. They are taking a step backwards.
You need to remember that Portugal is a rich developed nation, and the Philippines is a poor developing country. If you legalize the drugs in the Philippines, it may not yield the same results as they had in Portugal. On the other hand, I am afraid that it may increase the addiction rates among the teenagers. Rich? Portugal was on the verge of financial collapse a few years ago. I agree that it is far more developed than the Philippines, but I'm not sure if that is a game changing difference. The success in Portugal isn't because of wealth. Let's talk about teenagers getting their hands on drugs. First, if you're concerned about addiction, we can only talk about addictive substances. But I agree in that we don't want kids having access to drugs. Kids will have the hardest time acquiring a drug that is legal. Think about tobacco or alcohol. It is government regulated, distribution is regulated, and you need to show that you are an adult with ID in order to purchase either of them. Now take a drug that has been made illegal. It's not regulated and you need to get it from a drug dealer. But a drug dealer may or may not care about selling drugs to a kid, due to the profit motive. It is much easier for a kid to get his hands on weed than it is cigarettes. So if that is your actual fear, you should be for the legalization and regulation of drugs, because the government can institute a system to distribute only to adults. |
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It should be someone's choice if they prefer to marry the same sex as them why stop it? Most of the world has learned with 8 billion+ people we really don't need to reproduce anymore as much as we use to when the population was less than a billion. Nowadays we also have had technology advances which only make it easier to reproduce even if you're gay.
Then why dont you spread same sex love where all the reproduction is done these days? Like Africa and middle East... oh, wait. I forgot, they would kick you so hard in the ass, that you would search for it in the google maps.  Why the fuck should we amend family structure of entire society for a minority, that is completely fine as it is and consists of maybe 5% of all people? Why? Who does it serve? Guilty conscience of liberals? There was a time when a white man would say "Why amend the laws and set slaves free? It is completely fine as it is." But once you put yourself in the shoes of a slave, who never chose to be born a slave, then it isn't completely fine. So as a homophobic and intolerant person towards gay people, of course it is completely fine to keep old traditions. Being gay or straight isn't a choice, so maybe put yourself in the shoes of a gay person. What are your options? Pretend to be straight to appease people that hate you, or have less rights? One could ask who it serves to prohibit gay marriage? Does it only serve intolerant people? Who wants to serve them? lol |
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Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.
Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course? This is illegal. Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it. This is legal. |
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I'm a Catholic and straight guy. I also have some friends gay and lesbian and that was fine for me if that's what they want. They can be who they are but that doesn't mean I support same sex marriage. That is not a simple things especially in a religious country.
What is the need for a marriage for these guys? If they want to live together, then no one is objecting about it. But the problem comes when they want additional benefits and payments, which are normally limited to the heterosexual couples. Depending on where you live, society progresses, sometimes beyond the policies that were set. Instead of making societal progress fit into ancient laws, we can update the policy to reflect the current state of society. There was a time where people labelled as witches were burned to death. We had slavery based on the colour of your skin. Women couldn't vote. Once we find out that these laws are bullshit, they require updating. Homophobia and treating gay people badly or giving them less rights is nothing new. But there are many places in the world that has progressed past this - mostly developed nations that are less religious. Undeveloped nations that are more religious will struggle with this, but you can see that one type of thought is leading and the other is trailing. It may take an extra generation or two for undeveloped nations to accept this, but it will happen. Look at the top gay friendly cities in the world https://www.lonelyplanet.com/travel-tips-and-articles/the-most-gay-friendly-places-on-the-planet/40625c8c-8a11-5710-a052-1479d27666faDon't you find it odd that many of them are also rated the top cities in the world to live in? Tolerance or acceptance for those that are different makes for a better society. |
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We need to draw a fine line between a recreational drug and illegal drug. I think some drugs should be considered the former over the latter. EG Cannabis isn't really something we should be arresting people for when at the same time doctors across the country are writing scripts for opioids like it's no body's business.
Have to agree with you there. Marijuana is a relatively harmless drug although there is a lot of negative propaganda against it, which should be legal just like alcohol and tobacco. If harmful drugs such as Oxycodone can be legal, then why not weed? Legality of substances has never had anything to do with the harm associated with it. The negative propaganda has been coming from special interest groups that stand to lose something if cannabis was used freely. This includes the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries which are in direct competition with either the medicinal side, or the recreational side. But the original propaganda was actually against the hemp industry and cannabis just got looped into that deal. This came from the paper, cotton and petroleum/plastic industries, all of which can be replaced completely with hemp. To this day growing hemp (to be clear this is not psychoactive) is illegal in America. The problem is that these industries succeeded in fear mongering the general population into stripping away their own freedom, in order to lift the profitability of these special interests. This is clearly evident by the opinions on this thread. Even if cannabis WAS harmful, it should still remain legal, and we as people should educate ourselves on what we do and do not put into our own bodies. You can walk into any drug store and buy a container of advil, swallow all the pills and die. No one is preventing this from happening aside from the user being responsible for him/herself. The government doesn't give a shit about our health although they put on a front that they do, which is why cannabis is illegal. |
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This will be successful IF the Government can really imprison and kill the Rich People who are behind in this Drug activities. Can this administration do it? For the whole year of this campaign the answer is a NO, I hope for the following year President Duterte can do this. Exactly, I am not being negative here but i am just being a realistic.
I hope government will also find ways to create more jobs for the poor Filipinos.
There are many big people behind in the Drug Activity Industry, and President Duterte thinks that it can be easily solved?NO.
There is money in Drugs, don't expect that it will die down that easy.
The summary of people who died on this activity is either POOR or innocent (the rich can't be killed lol)
It will never be successful. In order for a country to be drug free, every citizen needs to be against its use. As long as there is ANY demand for drugs, and there will be, there will be an opportunity for profit. As always, there will be some people that will seize this opportunity and become a supplier for the financial rewards that come with it. If you think you can kill the supplier, then another supplier will take the last one's place. And that will go on forever. Don't you find it odd that the countries that fight the "drug war" the most, have the largest drug cartels? A drug cartel cannot exist, unless strict prohibition exists. As soon as you legalize drugs, the drug cartels lose their opportunity. Unfortunately most people don't understand this very basic concept. I think it's still possible though, but it may take a long time before it can happen, i hope Mr.President will not only focus on Drugs but Focus on the Philippines as a whole Before thinking that it is possible, you should look into past attempts of drug prohibition in other countries over the last century. The only success I have seen is an approach where you become liberal with recreational use of drugs. Take Holland for example, you can walk into a shop in Amsterdam and buy cannabis or psilocybin mushrooms from a menu. You know that the product is regulated with quality control, and that you don't have to worry about "getting caught". Amsterdam doesn't have a drug problem. In fact it is maybe the friendliest city I've been to, and I've done a decent amount of traveling. And this isn't surprising, but their population has a very good understanding of drugs, because they haven't been fed a bunch of bullshit and fear mongering propaganda to manipulate the population. From this thread alone, it's very easy to see that the Filipino posts are incredibly misinformed about the classes and effects of different substances. They haven't been taught obviously, and evidently they haven't done their own research, nor do they care to. On the other hand, you can look at America, who got really "tough" with drugs. Remember Nixon coming up with "public enemy #1" as drugs in 1970? Now that approach of not understanding much about drugs, and getting really tough, was an absolute failure. Their prisons are overflowing and yet, they haven't solved their drug problem yet. In fact the problem has gotten worse. So ask yourself what is the Philippines doing differently that is going to allow it to succeed in this endeavor. And the answer is they're not doing anything differently. Dealing with drugs is not something the government or the police have the capability to deal with. It is a medical issue and must be dealt with by people in the medical field. You will never solve psychological or medical issues with force. |
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