So i have a few questions..
If ANON was needed so badly why did the dev's not submit the idea to the Bitcoin core dev's foundation etc ?
Was it because they knew it would be rejected ?
Well, you'd have to redo many things in bitcoin. So many, actually, that almost nothing would be left of bitcoin. Your question is akin to "if flying in the air is so important, why did people build airplanes, and didn't add wings to cars which were already riding ?". There's so much to change in a car to turn it into an airplane, that it is easier to start off from scratch. Now that's a nice comparison, I'm jealous of the way you can explain things in layman's terms like this... Even someone who never heard of crypto can get what you want to say with the above explanation... well done! best regards |
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Pseudo-anonimity is good enough for me.
What I find hilarious is that 96.52% of Monero's volume belongs to a single, centralized exchange (polo) which also require people's identity. Until that's fixed I'm not sure how people can push Monero.
this is false, if you stay under the 2k$-withdrawal limit you don't need to give up your identity... pseudo-anonimity is not good enough for everyone... I for one wouldn't like to be associated with shady business because a bitcoin was used for some shady business 7 transactions ago (when I had nothing to do with that bitcoin)... cash needs to be fungible, bitcoin is not fungible because its traceable... best regards, |
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So i have a few questions..
If ANON was needed so badly why did the dev's not submit the idea to the Bitcoin core dev's foundation etc ?
because btc is transparant by default, which is a big no no... cash should be anonymous by default (like monero)... oh and also because monero is based on a different protocol (cryptonote)... oh, and also because BTC is totally politicised, good luck on trying to implement anything new (cough blocksize cough) best regards |
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Depends on your definition of dead now doesn't it. What would you call it when Monero has not accomplished anything since it started 2'ish years ago.. Except Dark Market usage which turned out to be a flop. What are you all tying your Monero hopes to now ? Maybe scrounge up enough cash for a $45,000.00 Nascar paint job ?  one word: FUNGIBILITY... XMR is the only truly fungible digital cash, that's a fact... I can see the value proposition in that, obviously you can't... future will tell if 'the market' will value it... |
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@eaLiTy. The news that the darknet market is accepting Monero is taken out of context and it was really overhyped. The fact is only merchants in Alphabay is accepting Monero and it is not even gaining some traction because that acceptance is dwindling. The merchants still prefer bitcoins and are going back to it. Also I do not think drug addicts know that Monero exists. Lulz, same shit different day, post some evidence of your claims (dwindling acceptance) please... Everyone in their right minds would use XMR for said transactions, especially with the btc-blocks being spammed and fees rising, with chain-analysis, with KYC, ... ah well, next year you might miss another 1000% runup in xmr and still be talking about king bitcoin... best regards |
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Morono is dead.
Well, looking at your track record of predicting things about XMR I guess it must be very alive and kicking, on 2 january 2016 you posted this: MONERO is your winner loser.
(wasn't hard to find by the way, you write an eulogy for xmr about every 2 weeks...) now let's look at the chart:  Poor Sputz, missed a 1000% price increase in BTC and 1500% price increase in King $$$ Is that why you're so angry all the time? |
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haha, last time I have checked it was not so dead, why are you saying that ?
not dead but with zcash/zclassic and zcoin, is seriously overshadowed, because those coin offer better anonymity so monero is a bit pointless now, why i should it on the dark web instead of zcash, which has also a better name? because monero's anonimity-features actually work, because monero has protocol-level-privacy (not optional privacy like zcash), because monero didn't use a trusted setup, because with monero there are no mining rewards going to the devs, because anonymous transactions in xmr don't require 8 Gib RAM and still take 2 minutes, because xmr isn't a corporate coin but actually a truly grassroots open source project with a large and active community, because xmr-cryptography is thoroughly tested and peerreviewed (zcash-crypto is not), because monero has actual usability, ...need I go on... don't get me wrong, zcash technology is very interesting, but the way it is conceived now is a big no no, maybe in 10 years... best regards |
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also the codebase xmr inherited from bytecoin was really messy etc, that's why development seems slow... but lots of developments already happened since launch in april 2014... just not the really visible kind (like a bling bling GUI, which actually is almost ready now)...
Well, your arguments do not really stack up. Bytecoin which Monero was forked from has 100% refactored code - and managed to release gui as well as many of the 'under the hood' changes that Monero fan boys claim is taking place with their code to excuse the absence of visible ones. Refactored node RocksDB Database New API Blocksize increase Fusion Transactions On-blockchain aliases many, many more Then, when; a:)They can't provide an argument or evidence to support their case b:) They can't delete said arguments by deleting them from their 'scientology' style threads They resort to nasty tactics like spamming peoples trust (proof? Take a look at mine - no bad trading just Monero trust spamming) or attacking people in random threads that have nothing to do with Monero.They kept to their own moderated thought-police threads, to a large extent, after the great Spamero Backlash but this recent pump seems to have embodened them again.Disclaimer - I don't own any cryptonote currencyyeah well, here are some numbers for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5ep3mc/what_i_am_grateful_for/if too laze to click I'll quote: "Monero has had 7,440 commits made by 167 contributors representing 387,411 lines of code or an estimated 102 person years of effort" but that's probably all fake off course... I guess you now know what remains of your credibility best regards... |
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There were troubles with this from the beginning: Greeting, this evening john-connor showed up on the Bitcoin Core github with some rather aggressively ignorant minunderstandings of basic cryptographic consensus concepts: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5634#issuecomment-69481908Having no clue who he was I looked at his github account and googled a bit and found that he is the, seemingly pseudonymous, author of "Vanillacoin". Vanillacoin was previously discussed on this forum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890388.0 but he locked the threads in order to shuffle the users (victims?) off to someplace out of the light of day-- never a good sign, (nor is his BCT newbie account, for that matter). The "vanillacoin" software has no source code available, it is binaries only (very much not a good sign, and usually severe malware concern; and an ultimate form of centralization), there are source links but they go to a basically empty github repository. There is a whitepaper, which like the comments on github show some general software development background they show no real sign of sophisticated understanding around decenteralized systems for adversarial networks or cryptocurrencies. I don't know anything more about it, but I figure sunlight tends to be a good disinfectant; and with the threads locked it probably wasn't fair of me to say nothing while I was privately thinking "hm, that all smells pretty fishy". Of course, the guy was a bit rude to me and also wasted my time-- so feel free to factor that bias in however you like. I'm just reporting my impression as a regular community member. You now know what I know. [I'm the last person to play altcoin-cops... I mostly avoid this stuff except for the rare cases that are technically interesting: The drama can sink unbounded time and usually, when it comes to the more misguided altcoin cryptography, the only sane policy seems to be "If you see something,say nothing and drink to forget": there is too much crazyness and risk of being attacked for being critical of someones latest scheme. But if it shows up in my face, I can't quite stomach saying nothing at all.] Cheers, [Edit: Vanillacoin changed names to V.Cash] |
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I just found your claim that monero didn't develop anything new ridiculous...
I didn't want to FUD, it was what was said on several channels but I - my mistake - did not check it. Maybe it was meant that monero did not develop some of the privacy stuff monero is associated with? Anyways no harm intended, just trying to separate scams from real projects, and those into those with good marketing and those with real development potential. no problem, and indeed, xmr was forked from bytecoin and based on entirely different protocol than bitcoin (cryptonote)... The fact that it's not a bitcoin-fork (like the absolute majority of all crypto's) means everything has to be built from scratch, also the codebase xmr inherited from bytecoin was really messy etc, that's why development seems slow... but lots of developments already happened since launch in april 2014... just not the really visible kind (like a bling bling GUI, which actually is almost ready now)... xmr had a fair launch, no ico, no mining rewards going to devs etc... xmr doesn't have a marketing team don't buy xmr  edit, if you do want to learn more about xmr to see if it's a scam or not, if it has development potential or not: short introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZi9xx6aiuYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEVm1dMn5Ks (great presentation, ideological and technical) http://weuse.cash/https://moneroeric.com/blog/http://monero.stackexchange.com/ (btw: xmr is only the third crypto to have its own stackexchange (btc en eth were first), this shows it has a strong and active community), by all means ask questions there if you want... best regards, |
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You mean functions other coins have a long time already?
Face it, Monero never developed anything on their own and even with copying they are really, really, really slow.
Also, didn't Monero had the same bug? In testnet, that's why peer-review is so important, which SDC lacks... but I don't want to start XMR vs. SDC here, I just found your claim that monero didn't develop anything new ridiculous... a coin without a GUI doesn't get 100mil-marketcap out of nothing you know... do some research before posting nonsense, especially when you want to be taken seriously regarding other topics (spectre being a scam) best regards |
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You mean functions other coins have a long time already?
Face it, Monero never developed anything on their own and even with copying they are really, really, really slow.
sigh, adaptive blocksize with tail emission... lol, ok now I see, you're an SDC-guy... Well, if you wanna sit at that table, you're gonna have to eat what's being served... how's that superb broken SDC-anonimity working for you: https://shnoe.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/de-anonymizing-shadowcash-and-oz-coin/ |
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all lies
I was here before you lord protector spoetnik of the unknowledgeable, it's all lies , you're delusional... TL;DR: noone cares about your or my opinion... bye |
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This topic...  |
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Whatever the 'reason' buy side is ramping up and coins for sale lower than it has been - volume very strong.
Bullish (for now) - and BTC seems out of steam for breaking 750 and staying over.
Will sell a few as I don't think this run will take us back up all the way, but it's a spike worth playing a little.
Maybe the GUI really is Soon™, who knows....
The GUI was ready a week ago, Devs said there is nothing more they can do before release. Seems like it's only Fluffy holding up the release now unless some other bug was found that I haven't seen written publicly about yet. Please read more carefully when you try to repeat something. The GUI is in a frozen code ready state, not everything that can be done is done state, also it is not fluffy holding up, but they are waiting for another fix for an issue with the daemon so there will be a new point release ( 0.10.1 ) as the GUI and the old release 0.10 do not work properly together ... so one needs the other to get a GUI beta release for the public. So please stop calling names if you do not know what you are doing. Attitudes like that can drive away good people. Which Fluffy said would take a couple of days to do. . . 8 days ago. So unless something else came up (which I assume it has) then it should have been released end of last week. always fun to have people like you who always expect everything from everyone else... why don't you compile the damn GUI for yourself, the instructions are on the github and it's almost as ready as can be... The fact that you, while nagging about the GUI and not doing anything yourself, are implying that FluffyPony (who has been the most excellent steward for this project one could ever imagine) is 'holding up' is just beyond preposterous... you deserve a big fat GFY |
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Jup, Moneylooser, N-RG and Adolf are all sockpuppets and not to be trusted... He lies, posts fake evidence, spreads FUD based on air... He should be ignored... best regards, lots of blabla  I think N-rG, moneylooser and maybe some other pretty newbie-accounts are all sockpuppets of one person... funny that both alpha-accounts joined on the same day... coincidence? dude... wtf... I'm just now seeing something weird in that posted picture... next to 'Vendor' it should be "oN" Oct, yours says or (part of the on disapperead)... any explanation for this? edit: WTF, and the admin account and yamaha sent at exactly the same time: "13:55" don't really got words for this, but I think you just got busted dude... edit: posted the admin-message, so it's easier to compare:  edit: just did some further research... N-rg and his sockpuppets (moneylooser I'm sure off) are full of shit and post fake-'evidence'... don't trust anything that comes out of their mouths... best regards |
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I think it was Aminorex who suggested that out of the "cryptocurrency allocation", it makes sense to buy
* 50% of $100 bills
* 50% of XMR.
Instead of the 90% BTC / 10% XMR that you are suggesting.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37906742I am not sure if $100 bills are wise choice. maybe 25˘ coins @moneyLooser you have fraud reputation here. I am surprised no one gave him red reputation for frauding screens from dark markets. Yep, and if I recall correctly theKoziTwo paid him and his alter ego N-RG (theKoziTwo donated money to something) to stay away from here, and now he's back again... sucks... |
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Zcash's technical difficulties can be solved over time.
What can't be solved is the 'trusted setup'. A 100% no go if you use the coin for it's fungibility and privacy. Who wants to risk jail time or life based on trusting six people? I rather trust the math and maybe myself to some extend, although external pressure goes a long way. A 5$ wrench comes to mind.
Additionally the 20% cut to the founders of every block found, for four years, can only fixed by forking. Which I would encourage.
I just don't understand the hype, except for traders and speculators trying to earn some extra BTC / XMR / USD.
Zooko's proposed solution to verifying this has not happened is to force people to periodically move all hidden coins to the public blockchain, or lose those coins. you forgot the /s tag, right? No, they are serious about this proposal. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RLjcGVUnw&feature=youtu.be&t=29m00s& http://weuse.cash/2016/10/28/the-untrusted-setup/ (under "Chain rollbacks") What? damn, mindblown here... This is a techno-geek speaking without any understandig of monetary theory/economics... |
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