<Addressing the last post in a sec. Guys, I'm not tryin' to troll here, albeit it kinda reads like a Flat-earther defending his position. I'm fully capable of conceding my stance once shown where I'm in error. Look forward to reading your arguments. Thanks, guys.> Here's a table depicting a child born in the year 2000 having parents both 25 years of age (born 1975; first row), with all grandparents also 25 years old [for sake of illustration]. [As with subsequent rows] we can all relate to the second row, all of us having 2 parents and 4 grandparents for a running total of 6 distinct people (excluding ourselves/exampled millennium child), ancestors born in the years depicted in the last column. I duly hope that the table is self-explanatory from there on out. If not, please inquiry. First, a pic to help illustrate the table: After 8 generations, all 128 great-grandparents are distinct. 254 distinct people are depicted. Generations | Dad's Parents | Mom's Parents | Running Total | Years (Date) | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 25 (1975) | 2 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 50 (1950) | 3 | 4 | 4 | 14 | 75 (1925) | 4 | 8 | 8 | 30 | 100 (1900) | 5 | 16 | 16 | 62 | 125 (1875) | 6 | 32 | 32 | 126 | 150 (1850) | 7 | 64 | 64 | 254 | 175 (1825) | 8 | 128 | 128 | 510 | 200 (1800) | 9 | 256 | 256 | 1,022 | 225 (1775) | 10 | 512 | 512 | 2,046 | 250 (1750) | 11 | 1,024 | 1,024 | 4,094 | 275 (1725) | 12 | 2,048 | 2,048 | 8,190 | 300 (1700) | 13 | 4,096 | 4,096 | 16,382 | 325 (1675) | 14 | 8,192 | 8,192 | 32,766 | 350 (1650) | 15 | 16,384 | 16,384 | 65,534 | 375 (1625) | 16 | 32,768 | 32,768 | 131,070 | 400 (1600) | 17 | 65,536 | 65,536 | 262,142 | 425 (1575) | 18 | 131,072 | 131,072 | 524,286 | 450 (1550) | 19 | 262,144 | 262,144 | 1,048,574 | 475 (1525) | 20 | 524,288 | 524,288 | 2,097,150 | 500 (1500) | 21 | 1,048,576 | 1,048,576 | 4,194,302 | 525 (1475) | 22 | 2,097,152 | 2,097,152 | 8,388,606 | 550 (1450) | 23 | 4,194,304 | 4,194,304 | 16,777,214 | 575 (1425) | 24 | 8,388,608 | 8,388,608 | 33,554,430 | 600 (1400) | 25 | 16,777,216 | 16,777,216 | 67,108,862 | 625 (1375) | 26 | 33,554,432 | 33,554,432 | 134,217,726 | 650 (1350) | 27 | 67,108,864 | 67,108,864 | 268,435,454 | 675 (1325) | 28 | 134,217,728 | 134,217,728 | 536,870,910 | 700 (1300) | 29 | 268,435,456 | 268,435,456 | 1,073,741,822 | 725 (1275) | 30 | 536,870,912 | 536,870,912 | 2,147,483,646 | 750 (1250) | 31 | 1,073,741,824 | 1,073,741,824 | 4,294,967,294 | 775 (1225) | 32 | 2,147,483,648 | 2,147,483,648 | 8,589,934,590 | 800 (1200) | 33 | 4,294,967,296 | 4,294,967,296 | 17,179,869,182 | 825 (1175) | 34 | 8,589,934,592 | 8,589,934,592 | 34,359,738,366 | 850 (1150) | 35 | 17,179,869,184 | 17,179,869,184 | 68,719,476,734 | 875 (1125) | 36 | 34,359,738,368 | 34,359,738,368 | 137,438,953,470 | 900 (1100) | 37 | 68,719,476,736 | 68,719,476,736 | 274,877,906,942 | 925 (1075) | 38 | 137,438,953,472 | 137,438,953,472 | 549,755,813,886 | 950 (1050) | 39 | 274,877,906,944 | 274,877,906,944 | 1,099,511,627,774 | 975(1025) | 40 | 549,755,813,888 | 549,755,813,888 | 2,199,023,255,550 | 1,000 (1000) |
The ONLY way any of us could've had less than 1,099,511,627,776 grandparents during the course of the last 1,000 years as depicted above, is if a few of the generation spans were longer than 25 years, thus to compensation, simply add another 25 years to the mix, resulting in 2,199,023,255,552 (2.199+ trillion) grandparents to assure at least one trillion grandparents. <I guess there's other ways, but will let this graph stand unedited (this note included prior to publishing)> Historically, parents, especially women, were much younger than 25 years old hundreds of years ago.
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The fuck is VB doing associating with these tards?
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Them not completely disappearing can also mean they are buying time before the hounds are released and they get swamped with letters from lawyers.
Buying time? Their domain was seized by the FBI and the owners face prison time if they are ever found. I think the last of their concerns are lawyers from disgruntled former customers. Where would you even send legal correspondence, and in what jurisdiction? They were legally organized in multiple jurisdictions. Nobody knows who the owners are. Nobody knows where the money is and how much they control. It's a total crapshoot. I suspect hiring lawyers at this point (unless/until it becomes clear that US law enforcement was able to seize considerable funds) is going to be a huge waste of time and money. The best shot at partial repayment is if they somehow relaunch or at least set up a refund process..... but the chances of that happening are low. Still, there is a better chance of that than getting anything from the US government. "Holy shit! We've been served another legal letter from a lawyer."
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And don't forget about Burt Wagner in CO. They even took his daughter's U$600 kept in a piggy bank which was returned to her via funds raised from this community.
Jesus, you serious? They even took the piggybank. I guess I'll have to think of another place to store my in-house illicit gains. (LOL sometimes I'd love to know what goes through these agent's heads when they do stuff like that). "Men, before we take the little girl's piggy bank, we need to make sure there's not a bomb hidden inside."
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any news yet? it would be fair and good for the future of crypto to punish hard this typeof behavior. if this guys get away similar conducts will happen and crypto will never get mainstream and widespread. I can help with whatever is necessary for justice to prevail. Do you guys know the identity of ethtrade founders?
Funny you should ask. This thread is now all the rage -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053624.0
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If bitcoin is "used" by terrorists, money launderers and criminals. Why is this the only case where someone was "identified" for "money laundering"? I don't think this is the first case of Money Laundering, just the biggest so far. Think back to Charlie Shrem & Btc King, Coin.MX, The poor dudes in Florida that were just exchangers on LocalBitcoins but without a liscense, etc. I just think they are starting to crack down on the more blatant services that fascilitate easy no-id transactions that most definitely attract the wrong crowd. Just wait until they start going after the gambling scene, you can call all of the profits made off of US customers "illegal" & anyone whom deals with these funds are by nature "Money Laundering". And don't forget about Burt Wagner in CO. They even took his daughter's U$600 kept in a piggy bank which was returned to her via funds raised from this community.
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Was Mayzus arrested or not?
It's probably a matter of time. They (along with Okpay, who is now owned by Mayzus) have been processing BTC-e's US and Europe-facing fiat withdrawals for several years. I mean, if the Feds are calling the exchange itself a money laundering operation, what does that say about its primary payment processor? This is all very bizarre given that there is still no word from the US government about funds being seized. Did they get so little that they were embarrassed to mention it? Or do they have reason not to make it public? As Craig Steven Wright aka Satoshi Nakamoto would say: IT'S THEIR FUCKIN MONEY NOW AND THEY CAN DO WITH IT AS THEY PLEASE INCLUDING NOT LETTING YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE! Excellent Craig Wright impression, by the way. I just find it odd is all. With any major FBI takedown I've ever seen, the headline is the amount of funds seized. Take the Alphabay indictment/press release, for instance. This was nothing like that, and BTC-e was one of the biggest crypto exchanges in the world! Just makes me wonder if the FBI screwed up and thought they had access to more funds than they did. So, the new FBI director, Christopher Asher Wray, has to explain not only why the amount of money confiscated wasn't disclosed during the arrest and control of BTC-e's servers, but why BTC-e is still in operation with a supposed intend of returning all the funds to their rightful owners with the help of OKPay. Let's see what Sarah has to say about that when a CNN reporter starts questioning the administration in the West Wing.
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Translated from the OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.msg20598977#msg20598977Update4!
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e But yesterday: https://www.bitcoinandethereum.com/btc-e-information-was-sent-to-uk-police-by-mayzus-moneypolo-and-okpay/#.WYPlRsd942wSergey Mayzus announced: “In connection with the closure of one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges (BTC-E) by US law-enforcement agencies, false information was posted by anonymous person(s) on the website btceclaims.github.io about alleged involvement of myself (Sergey Mayzus) and my companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. with the BTC-E exchange. I hereby declare that neither myself (Sergey Mayzus) nor the companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. that I own are in any way related to the BTC-E exchange, its owners or employees.” Was Mayzus arrested or not? It's probably a matter of time. They (along with Okpay, who is now owned by Mayzus) have been processing BTC-e's US and Europe-facing fiat withdrawals for several years. I mean, if the Feds are calling the exchange itself a money laundering operation, what does that say about its primary payment processor? This is all very bizarre given that there is still no word from the US government about funds being seized. Did they get so little that they were embarrassed to mention it? Or do they have reason not to make it public? As Craig Steven Wright aka Satoshi Nakamoto would say: IT'S THEIR FUCKIN MONEY NOW AND THEY CAN DO WITH IT AS THEY PLEASE INCLUDING NOT LETTING YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE!
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Translated from the OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.msg20598977#msg20598977Update4!
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e But yesterday: https://www.bitcoinandethereum.com/btc-e-information-was-sent-to-uk-police-by-mayzus-moneypolo-and-okpay/#.WYPlRsd942wSergey Mayzus announced: “In connection with the closure of one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges (BTC-E) by US law-enforcement agencies, false information was posted by anonymous person(s) on the website btceclaims.github.io about alleged involvement of myself (Sergey Mayzus) and my companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. with the BTC-E exchange. I hereby declare that neither myself (Sergey Mayzus) nor the companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. that I own are in any way related to the BTC-E exchange, its owners or employees.” Was Mayzus arrested or not?
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BTC-E posted an update today in the Russian local thread that they were able to access their databases and purses and they are currently assessing it and this information would be made public before the end of next week. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.0WTF! That new thread is already 120 posts/6 pages long.
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Listening back, I was pretty naive at that point still.
Fuck, wish I knew what I know now back then haha.
This is before we knew Paul embezzled millions out of the site, even before the hack
Way she goes though I guess, hindsight always 20/20.
Don't forget that according to Paul Vernon, Mullick knew immediately, along with at least one (maybe two) others in the office at the time, one of which called Paul at home in giving him the supposed heads up. You can almost lay odds on Paul's wife, Lorie Nettles, being aware most likely the same day. The ONLY people who weren't aware were the very people who should've been informed, e.g. 3-LAs which Paul and others versed in compliance knew needed to be informed but weren't because FBI Bridges was about (NOT HAD) to be indicted for his role in the SR case, so Paul prophetly knew that that wasn't an option according to his infamous Blog post.
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Hopefully BTC-E like many company are storing bitcoin in cold wallet out of datacenter server... i'm assuming FBI seized datacenter of website, they definetly seized the hot wallet... but there is hope btc-e have backup out of datacenter...
I hope they have backup... if so there is hope for bitcoin to be refunded, or website be backup... if they truely didnt arrest real owner...
Hey, if that's the case, perhaps Bitmixer will process the refunds through OKPay. What could go wrong?
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lauda turned the sig campaign from a bot crazy shitshow to something with some actual quality control.
Okay. I thought for a sec that the poster was alluding to Lauda being part of Bitmixer. Hey, since I'm only working on impulse power at the moment, somebody please confirm that such is not the case. Lauda did work for bitmixer up until it closed. Okay, I need to see some sort of proof for that, will all due respect, bud.
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Dudes, don't be turning my ninja into a meme, mmmkay? FWIW, here's the dude behind the mask (Terry Terr on the right, both of Dustin's Dojo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_eyQdrptKA): -snipped- "We challenge Roger Ver to an MMA meatup, he choosing any deli item as his weapon of choice. Terry, here, will be using his patented salami nunchucks."[/center] Lol sorry man, in my defense you said use a real ninja. Let me quess. You're a spokesperson for Roger Ver and he's afraid of going up against salami nunchucks. How close am I?
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lauda turned the sig campaign from a bot crazy shitshow to something with some actual quality control.
Okay. I thought for a sec that the poster was alluding to Lauda being part of Bitmixer. Hey, since I'm only working on impulse power at the moment, somebody please confirm that such is not the case. Hey Gleb Lauda was the manager of the signature campaign and he did a great job kicking the sig spammers which I believe that Bitmixer was the second largest place after yobit (before hilariousandco era ) Hey, thanks, bud, for the clarification. I truly wasn't versed in Lauda's role, hoping that he wasn't directly connected to BM, I having no qualms with the dude.
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Rofl, that sums up the last week of crypto boo hoo hoo pretty well. Dudes, don't be turning my ninja into a meme, mmmkay? FWIW, here's the dude behind the mask (Terry Terr on the right, both of Dustin's Dojo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_eyQdrptKA): "We challenge Roger Ver to an MMA meatup, he choosing any deli item as his weapon of choice. Terry, here, will be using his patented salami nunchucks."
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Is Horus still around these parts? I still have that radio station interview with him talking to some guy about all this.
I don't think I've heard that interview, bud. Is there an active link still available?
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