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2001  Other / Off-topic / Re: Grandparents ~ Somebody check my math - something doesn't add up! on: August 04, 2017, 05:23:21 PM
<Addressing the last post in a sec. Guys, I'm not tryin' to troll here, albeit it kinda reads like a Flat-earther defending his position.  Shocked I'm fully capable of conceding my stance once shown where I'm in error. Look forward to reading your arguments. Thanks, guys.>

Here's a table depicting a child born in the year 2000 having parents both 25 years of age (born 1975; first row), with all grandparents also 25 years old [for sake of illustration].

[As with subsequent rows] we can all relate to the second row, all of us having 2 parents and 4 grandparents for a running total of 6 distinct people (excluding ourselves/exampled millennium child), ancestors born in the years depicted in the last column.

I duly hope that the table is self-explanatory from there on out. If not, please inquiry. First, a pic to help illustrate the table:


After 8 generations, all 128 great-grandparents are distinct.
254 distinct people are depicted.

Generations
Dad's Parents
Mom's Parents
Running Total
Years (Date)
1
1
1
2
25 (1975)
2
2
2
6
50 (1950)
3
4
4
14
75 (1925)
4
8
8
30
100 (1900)
5
16
16
62
125 (1875)
6
32
32
126
150 (1850)
7
64
64
254
175 (1825)
8
128
128
510
200 (1800)
9
256
256
1,022
225 (1775)
10
512
512
2,046
250 (1750)
11
1,024
1,024
4,094
275 (1725)
12
2,048
2,048
8,190
300 (1700)
13
4,096
4,096
16,382
325 (1675)
14
8,192
8,192
32,766
350 (1650)
15
16,384
16,384
65,534
375 (1625)
16
32,768
32,768
131,070
400 (1600)
17
65,536
65,536
262,142
425 (1575)
18
131,072
131,072
524,286
450 (1550)
19
262,144
262,144
1,048,574
475 (1525)
20
524,288
524,288
2,097,150
500 (1500)
21
1,048,576
1,048,576
4,194,302
525 (1475)
22
2,097,152
2,097,152
8,388,606
550 (1450)
23
4,194,304
4,194,304
16,777,214
575 (1425)
24
8,388,608
8,388,608
33,554,430
600 (1400)
25
16,777,216
16,777,216
67,108,862
625 (1375)
26
33,554,432
33,554,432
134,217,726
650 (1350)
27
67,108,864
67,108,864
268,435,454
675 (1325)
28
134,217,728
134,217,728
536,870,910
700 (1300)
29
268,435,456
268,435,456
1,073,741,822
725 (1275)
30
536,870,912
536,870,912
2,147,483,646
750 (1250)
31
1,073,741,824
1,073,741,824
4,294,967,294
775 (1225)
32
2,147,483,648
2,147,483,648
8,589,934,590
800 (1200)
33
4,294,967,296
4,294,967,296
17,179,869,182
825 (1175)
34
8,589,934,592
8,589,934,592
34,359,738,366
850 (1150)
35
17,179,869,184
17,179,869,184
68,719,476,734
875 (1125)
36
34,359,738,368
34,359,738,368
137,438,953,470
900 (1100)
37
68,719,476,736
68,719,476,736
274,877,906,942
925 (1075)
38
137,438,953,472
137,438,953,472
549,755,813,886
950 (1050)
39
274,877,906,944
274,877,906,944
1,099,511,627,774
975(1025)
40
549,755,813,888549,755,813,8882,199,023,255,550
1,000 (1000)

The ONLY way any of us could've had less than 1,099,511,627,776 grandparents during the course of the last 1,000 years as depicted above, is if a few of the generation spans were longer than 25 years, thus to compensation, simply add another 25 years to the mix, resulting in 2,199,023,255,552 (2.199+ trillion) grandparents to assure at least one trillion grandparents. <I guess there's other ways, but will let this graph stand unedited (this note included prior to publishing)>

Historically, parents, especially women, were much younger than 25 years old hundreds of years ago.
2002  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: About Ethereum Plus on: August 04, 2017, 04:37:36 PM



The fuck is VB doing associating with these tards?
2003  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 04:11:44 PM
Them not completely disappearing can also mean they are buying time before the hounds are released and they get swamped with letters from lawyers.

Buying time? Their domain was seized by the FBI and the owners face prison time if they are ever found. I think the last of their concerns are lawyers from disgruntled former customers. Where would you even send legal correspondence, and in what jurisdiction? They were legally organized in multiple jurisdictions. Nobody knows who the owners are. Nobody knows where the money is and how much they control. It's a total crapshoot.

I suspect hiring lawyers at this point (unless/until it becomes clear that US law enforcement was able to seize considerable funds) is going to be a huge waste of time and money. The best shot at partial repayment is if they somehow relaunch or at least set up a refund process..... but the chances of that happening are low. Still, there is a better chance of that than getting anything from the US government.


"Holy shit! We've been served another legal letter from a lawyer."
2004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 04:06:53 PM
And don't forget about Burt Wagner in CO. They even took his daughter's U$600 kept in a piggy bank which was returned to her via funds raised from this community.
Jesus, you serious? They even took the piggybank. I guess I'll have to think of another place to store my in-house illicit gains. (LOL sometimes I'd love to know what goes through these agent's heads when they do stuff like that).


"Men, before we take the little girl's piggy bank,
we need to make sure there's not a bomb hidden inside."
2005  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ethtrade.org Tomas novak Louis Close stocking and hui king, all in a big payslip on: August 04, 2017, 04:02:18 PM
any news yet? it would be fair and good for the future of crypto to punish hard this typeof behavior. if this guys get away similar conducts will happen and crypto will never get mainstream and widespread. I can help with whatever is necessary for justice to prevail. Do you guys know the identity of ethtrade founders?

Funny you should ask. This thread is now all the rage -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053624.0
2006  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: About Ethereum Plus on: August 04, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
take a look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-nPLj7xU7M  Grin

Wow! They actually titled this video "highlights", then proceeded to clip together scenes that were everything but highlights. I'll admit that they successfully juxtaposed the looks on all the principals' faces like deer caught in headlights at the beginning of the vid with seconds of this dude toward its end:


"Normal people create a normal world."

Yep, that was his highlight at the event, for if it wasn't, them Hendi brainiacs wouldn't have included it. Further, they successfully depicted the genuineness of their marks in attendance via their expressions, but missed the marked completely when they each and every time depicted themselves as unsavory characters.






"After this dog and pony show, I'm gonna have all five of them animals inside of me.
Your options are either to sit back and watch or grab one animal for yourself.
Tomorrow, we go back to village and compare notes. Namaste."
2007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 06:30:37 AM
If bitcoin is "used" by terrorists, money launderers and criminals.

Why is this the only case where someone was "identified" for "money laundering"?

 Huh

I don't think this is the first case of Money Laundering, just the biggest so far. Think back to Charlie Shrem & Btc King, Coin.MX, The poor dudes in Florida that were just exchangers on LocalBitcoins but without a liscense, etc.

I just think they are starting to crack down on the more blatant services that fascilitate easy no-id transactions that most definitely attract the wrong crowd.

Just wait until they start going after the gambling scene, you can call all of the profits made off of US customers "illegal" & anyone whom deals with these funds are by nature "Money Laundering".

And don't forget about Burt Wagner in CO. They even took his daughter's U$600 kept in a piggy bank which was returned to her via funds raised from this community.
2008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 05:43:09 AM
Was Mayzus arrested or not?

It's probably a matter of time. They (along with Okpay, who is now owned by Mayzus) have been processing BTC-e's US and Europe-facing fiat withdrawals for several years. I mean, if the Feds are calling the exchange itself a money laundering operation, what does that say about its primary payment processor?

This is all very bizarre given that there is still no word from the US government about funds being seized. Did they get so little that they were embarrassed to mention it? Or do they have reason not to make it public?

As Craig Steven Wright aka Satoshi Nakamoto would say: IT'S THEIR FUCKIN MONEY NOW AND THEY CAN DO WITH IT AS THEY PLEASE INCLUDING NOT LETTING YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE!

Excellent Craig Wright impression, by the way. Grin

I just find it odd is all. With any major FBI takedown I've ever seen, the headline is the amount of funds seized. Take the Alphabay indictment/press release, for instance. This was nothing like that, and BTC-e was one of the biggest crypto exchanges in the world!

Just makes me wonder if the FBI screwed up and thought they had access to more funds than they did.

So, the new FBI director, Christopher Asher Wray, has to explain not only why the amount of money confiscated wasn't disclosed during the arrest and control of BTC-e's servers, but why BTC-e is still in operation with a supposed intend of returning all the funds to their rightful owners with the help of OKPay.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Let's see what Sarah has to say about that when a CNN reporter starts questioning the administration in the West Wing.
2009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 05:13:10 AM
Translated from the OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.msg20598977#msg20598977

Quote
Update4!

Current information:

1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.

2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.


Best regards support btc-e

But yesterday: https://www.bitcoinandethereum.com/btc-e-information-was-sent-to-uk-police-by-mayzus-moneypolo-and-okpay/#.WYPlRsd942w

Quote
Sergey Mayzus announced: “In connection with the closure of one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges (BTC-E) by US law-enforcement agencies, false information was posted by anonymous person(s) on the website btceclaims.github.io about alleged involvement of myself (Sergey Mayzus) and my companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. with the BTC-E exchange. I hereby declare that neither myself (Sergey Mayzus) nor the companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. that I own are in any way related to the BTC-E exchange, its owners or employees.”

Was Mayzus arrested or not?

It's probably a matter of time. They (along with Okpay, who is now owned by Mayzus) have been processing BTC-e's US and Europe-facing fiat withdrawals for several years. I mean, if the Feds are calling the exchange itself a money laundering operation, what does that say about its primary payment processor?

This is all very bizarre given that there is still no word from the US government about funds being seized. Did they get so little that they were embarrassed to mention it? Or do they have reason not to make it public?

As Craig Steven Wright aka Satoshi Nakamoto would say: IT'S THEIR FUCKIN MONEY NOW AND THEY CAN DO WITH IT AS THEY PLEASE INCLUDING NOT LETTING YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE!
2010  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: August 04, 2017, 05:08:25 AM
SlamPoet ICO be metered?
2011  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 03:12:20 AM
Translated from the OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.msg20598977#msg20598977

Quote
Update4!

Current information:

1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.

2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.


Best regards support btc-e

But yesterday: https://www.bitcoinandethereum.com/btc-e-information-was-sent-to-uk-police-by-mayzus-moneypolo-and-okpay/#.WYPlRsd942w

Quote
Sergey Mayzus announced: “In connection with the closure of one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges (BTC-E) by US law-enforcement agencies, false information was posted by anonymous person(s) on the website btceclaims.github.io about alleged involvement of myself (Sergey Mayzus) and my companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. with the BTC-E exchange. I hereby declare that neither myself (Sergey Mayzus) nor the companies OKPAY CY LTD and MAYZUS Financial Services Ltd. that I own are in any way related to the BTC-E exchange, its owners or employees.”

Was Mayzus arrested or not?
2012  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 03:05:10 AM
BTC-e back again, I just saw their announcement on local russian forum (just can't read what is it meaning)

Link, please, if different than this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056158.msg20505927#msg20505927

BTC-E posted an update today in the Russian local thread that they were able to access their databases and purses and they are currently assessing it and this information would be made public before the end of next week.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.0

WTF! That new thread is already 120 posts/6 pages long.  Cry Cry Cry

2013  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: August 04, 2017, 03:01:06 AM
Listening back, I was pretty naive at that point still.

Fuck, wish I knew what I know now back then haha.

This is before we knew Paul embezzled millions out of the site, even before the hack

Way she goes though I guess, hindsight always 20/20.

Don't forget that according to Paul Vernon, Mullick knew immediately, along with at least one (maybe two) others in the office at the time, one of which called Paul at home in giving him the supposed heads up. You can almost lay odds on Paul's wife, Lorie Nettles, being aware most likely the same day. The ONLY people who weren't aware were the very people who should've been informed, e.g. 3-LAs which Paul and others versed in compliance knew needed to be informed but weren't because FBI Bridges was about (NOT HAD) to be indicted for his role in the SR case, so Paul prophetly knew that that wasn't an option according to his infamous Blog post.
2014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 01:15:15 AM
Hopefully BTC-E like many company are storing bitcoin in cold wallet out of datacenter server... i'm assuming FBI seized datacenter of website, they definetly seized the hot wallet... but there is hope btc-e have backup out of datacenter...

I hope they have backup... if so there is hope for bitcoin to be refunded, or website be backup... if they truely didnt arrest real owner...

Hey, if that's the case, perhaps Bitmixer will process the refunds through OKPay. What could go wrong?  Roll Eyes
2015  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: August 04, 2017, 01:12:06 AM
Ah it was an interview with Rick Stoner on DogecoinDark radio.

I'm still around these parts though.

Gleb, here is a link to Stoner's page https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/

Hey, bud, welcome back my friend to the thread that never ends. Post inside, post inside.  Tongue Tongue Tongue
2016  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop working on: August 04, 2017, 01:10:21 AM
lauda turned the sig campaign from a bot crazy shitshow to something with some actual quality control.

Okay. I thought for a sec that the poster was alluding to Lauda being part of Bitmixer. Hey, since I'm only working on impulse power at the moment, somebody please confirm that such is not the case.
Lauda did work for bitmixer up until it closed.

Okay, I need to see some sort of proof for that, will all due respect, bud.
2017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 01:08:31 AM
Dudes, don't be turning my ninja into a meme, mmmkay?

FWIW, here's the dude behind the mask (Terry Terr on the right, both of Dustin's Dojo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_eyQdrptKA):

-snipped-
"We challenge Roger Ver to an MMA meatup,
he choosing any deli item as his weapon of choice.
Terry, here, will be using his patented salami nunchucks."
[/center]

Lol sorry man, in my defense you said use a real ninja.

Let me quess. You're a spokesperson for Roger Ver and he's afraid of going up against salami nunchucks.

How close am I?
2018  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop working on: August 04, 2017, 12:07:04 AM
lauda turned the sig campaign from a bot crazy shitshow to something with some actual quality control.

Okay. I thought for a sec that the poster was alluding to Lauda being part of Bitmixer. Hey, since I'm only working on impulse power at the moment, somebody please confirm that such is not the case.

Hey Gleb
Lauda was the manager of the signature campaign and he did a great job kicking the sig spammers which I believe that Bitmixer was the second largest place after yobit (before hilariousandco era  Wink)


Hey, thanks, bud, for the clarification. I truly wasn't versed in Lauda's role, hoping that he wasn't directly connected to BM, I having no qualms with the dude.
2019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC-e.com down ! Police detains the owner . on: August 04, 2017, 12:03:18 AM

LOL sorry I had to.

Rofl, that sums up the last week of crypto boo hoo hoo pretty well.

Dudes, don't be turning my ninja into a meme, mmmkay?

FWIW, here's the dude behind the mask (Terry Terr on the right, both of Dustin's Dojo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_eyQdrptKA):


"We challenge Roger Ver to an MMA meatup,
he choosing any deli item as his weapon of choice.
Terry, here, will be using his patented salami nunchucks."
2020  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: August 03, 2017, 11:48:59 PM
Is Horus still around these parts? I still have that radio station interview with him talking to some guy about all this.

I don't think I've heard that interview, bud. Is there an active link still available?
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