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2001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: December 25, 2023, 10:48:51 AM
Indeed, those who realize it as early as they can turn to addiction may find ways to look for another source of entertainment. I guess you need to work on it as a self-disciplined thing, no one but your own self who can help you when dealing with gambling, most of the time, a person who gets addicted needs professional help plus support from family members or close friends to back up the changes that they need when treating these concerns.

You need to be practical and always be in control if you don't want to suffer from any types of addiction and allow yourself to
move forward in terms of quitting your way.
That's why we really need self-control when gambling so that we don't gamble beyond our limits. While we are gambling, maybe we don't think about this because of the pleasure we get, but when we can think clearly while resting, we can find something useful in making decisions. We can avoid gambling addiction, which has been experienced by many gamblers out there because we care about our lives, and we also have people with whom we can exchange ideas or share whatever we want to share with them.

And we are indeed in control and we should not fall into gambling because gambling is just entertainment that other types of entertainment can replace. When we realize this and want to control ourselves, we will be able to use gambling as entertainment and will not gamble too often because we also don't want to take too big a risk in gambling.
2002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to ride and stop! on: December 25, 2023, 10:12:13 AM
Playing gambling with a small bankroll is always recommended so that you don't have the urge to continue gambling and will immediately stop when the bankroll starts to run out. You also don't need to increase the bet just to chase the win because when playing gambling, we won't always be able to win the gambling game. We can only gamble and stop gambling once we have had enough so that we don't gamble too much, which means we use more money. It is never recommended, and in fact, we recommend always controlling our gambling activities.

Don't be provoked by the losses we have experienced but think about immediately stopping our gambling activities before we lose all the money. Sometimes we can win and don't need to chase that win to avoid a big loss. Let everything flow as it is and you may get luck that will give you win.
2003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lack of proper knowledge on casino games increases chance of loss and reduce fun on: December 25, 2023, 09:46:04 AM
Most novice gamblers have experiences like you have. Their ignorance makes them experience losses that waste all their deposit money and makes them curious so they want to return to the casino for revenge. Behind the novice gambler who loses, there is a novice gambler who wins and that is gambling. Maybe you lost today, but who knows, tomorrow you could win and you need to gamble enough so that you don't lose too much.

Beginner gamblers can use the demo feature as a learning tool to find out how to play the gambling game. But you don't need to be surprised if you win more often when you play demo mode, but when you use real mode, you will lose more often.
2004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Innovation in online gambling on: December 25, 2023, 09:21:50 AM
Undoubtedly, innovation will grow the casino and become popular among other casinos. A casino that can listen to the wishes of its customers and make those wishes come true will become a place for its customers to gamble. This casino will have many customers who will gamble more often at the casino because they find it a comfortable place to gamble.

My gambling experience lately is still as usual but I am impressed by the gambling games available in every casino. Each casino seems to be competing to provide the most attractive promotions for its customers and pamper its customers with the many gambling games on its game list. That makes customers love the casino and makes them comfortable when they gamble.
2005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which hosting or domain name providers does shady gambling sites use? on: December 25, 2023, 08:56:18 AM
The hosting provider will not know if one of its customers will use its hosting for things related to illegal things or even scams. They only provide hosting services to all their customers. But if there are complaints from people about one of their customers, the hosting provider will warn the customer to move their hosting to another location immediately.

Hosting providers don't want their business to suffer and be accused of protecting scam casinos. And they will act firmly against customers who try to break their rules. We will not know what the hosting provider will do, whether they will ask their customers to look for another hosting provider or the hosting provider will pretend not to listen to people's complaints.
2006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 25, 2023, 08:29:30 AM
One thing about newbie gamblers is that no matter how you advise them, they would still make the newbie mistakes. It also happens in trading. Every new commer will like to try out their hands in trading while neglecting all the advices given them. But once they try it themselves and make such mistakes, they will learn by experience and by then you will see them advising other newbies.

Unlike trading which requires some skills, gambling is seen as only requiring luck which is why many people join gambling randomly without knowing some certain rules. Speaking about somethings, funny enough, emotions is not something that is learnt to be controlled hurriedly. It is 70% inbuilt and whose the newcomers don't know how to control their emotions, failure is inevitable.
Maybe for beginners advice from other gamblers is not very important but in fact they need advice to learn as someone who is entering the world of gambling, if a beginner ignores the advice of those who are experienced in gambling it will make him gamble carelessly and he will losing self-control and losing money in vain. Beginner gamblers must know that gambling is a game that is full of risk of losing and that we may not always get luck, so as beginners they must listen to the advice of other people who are experienced in gambling.

In my opinion, not all beginners are difficult to advise if they need help with advice from someone who has been familiar with gambling for a long time, after all trading and gambling are different things. Trading requires analysis first before trading and not carelessly, while gambling is just a game that you don't know yet definitely about his luck.
Some beginners find it difficult to accept advice from other people, especially advice from people who are experienced in gambling. This type of beginner must experience the experience themselves so they can realize that they have made a mistake by not listening to advice from others. But after they experience it themselves, they will start looking for other suggestions that could be useful for them. If a beginner is willing to listen to advice from other people and apply it to himself, he can avoid the common mistakes experienced by other gamblers so that he will not experience problems. These beginners really learn from people who are experienced in gambling and they only want to use gambling as entertainment and do not try to chase wins.

Those who trade also need to accept suggestions from others because they need more experience and knowledge. If they can accept these suggestions, he may develop faster than other friends because he can apply these suggestions well for his own good. When gambling, they really have to master good self-control so that the offers provided by the casino do not easily tempt them.
2007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: December 25, 2023, 07:45:52 AM
If the person is mentally unstable, it would be better for officers or employees to refuse the person to enter and gamble at the casino. But seeing what had happened, it seemed that the person had no intention other than just gambling like other people, so the officers just let him do it. But if the person started acting out of bounds, the officers would take the person into custody and tell him to leave and never enter the casino again.

It may be a moral obligation to prohibit someone who wants to gamble but has a mental disorder. The officer in one place doesn't want any commotion at his place of work so he will supervise someone who is mentally disturbed so that they don't make a commotion.
2008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 25, 2023, 07:15:47 AM
Even because we feel like we want to win we use many sites, sometimes when we win on the first site we transfer it to another site and play and so on, maybe you know the final result, but sometimes it will work to get lucky, whatever strategy what we do in gambling the results will be the same, but we enjoy doing it

I also do it when I feel it is my lucky day and it's true that sometimes it works, the mistake we most often make is taking the wrong moment when we win somehow it's very difficult to stop instantly our brain thinks this must be 10x but in fact this is the 10th deposit Grin but that in the past, not for now. For now I have to set a withdrawal target before starting to play at least 100% of my deposit if in the end it is more than 100% then I will leave it in the account for the next game and make sure the first withdrawal has landed in your bank account, not in your crypto wallet if not, then there will be persuasion that always appears in your ears re-deposit re-deposit, Honestly, you experienced it, right?
Moving winnings from the previous casino to another casino and gambling again will not always result in winnings. Therefore, if we win from a casino, we should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino after we withdraw the winnings. When we win, our minds will tell us to continue gambling, either keep playing at that casino or move to another casino, but that's what usually happens. Most gamblers experience this, including me, and I also used to do what you do. But after experiencing a big loss I never imagined, I learned to restrain myself, especially after winning. I now prefer to leave the casino and if I can win above the minimum withdrawal limit, I will withdraw the winnings and leave the casino.
2009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 25, 2023, 06:45:36 AM
I think people who become gambling addicts will be psychologically disturbed. This must be rehabilitated, especially if it causes danger to other people, especially to their own family. I tend to always warn my family in gambling but to persuade them completely out as addicts is almost impossible. they have a long process for it, not a few of whom even need spiritual guidance to regain their sanity.
A gambling addict cannot think clearly, which means he has experienced disturbances in the way he thinks, so he must get help from his family, and if necessary, he must go to an expert. The family can warn family members and show that he has a gambling addiction so that he can realize it and be willing to open himself up to receiving help from other people. If he still doesn't want to open himself up and even chooses to close himself off from other people, it will be even more difficult because there will be no recognition from him that he is addicted to gambling.

Maybe his family could be a little tougher on him and take him straight to a specialist so he can be treated immediately. If it's too late, he could end up getting deeper into his gambling addiction and it will be even more difficult to wake him up and cure him. It will cause problems for everyone, his family and the gambling addict, but in any case, the family should want to help the gambling addict to cure his gambling addiction.
2010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 25, 2023, 06:13:23 AM
Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling.

This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.
Actually, not really because if we meet a friend who asks us to finance his gambling and we can advise him to find a job so he can have money to finance his gambling. After having money from his job, he does not ask other people to finance his gambling and he is free to use his salary to gamble and to meet his living needs.

It would be better for him because he would not face the risk of returning his money to the money lender. And he also won't have problems with other people and can gamble using his own money. Hopefully, you can understand what it means.
2011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 25, 2023, 05:46:40 AM
Lottery games' low cost and big promises make them a popular retreat. I've seen these games deliver a brief surge of financial relief. Hope for financial freedom leads to addiction - a bitter irony.

However, not all gambling goes this way. One of my coworkers gambles occasionally as enjoyment. Seeing gambling as entertainment rather than a financial strategy is crucial. Knowing the odds and playing for fun, not survival, is key.

Promoting healthy gambling requires education and self-awareness. We must grasp the psychology and promote responsible actions. You must enjoy the thrill responsibly and know when to stop. A balanced approach can make gambling a safe activity.
Even though lottery games are low cost, lottery games can make people addicted to gambling and buy lottery tickets more often. They will not see it as a burden when they buy a lottery ticket and instead, they will see it as an opportunity to win the jackpot prize. They want to gain financial freedom by winning the jackpot prize but unfortunately, the lottery game requires luck to win.

Most gamblers will experience defeat and we have to realize that so we can really limit our gambling activities. And when we can see gambling as entertainment, we will not chase wins and let them come to us. And your coworkers are doing the right thing with gambling by seeing it as entertainment rather than making money. We also have to be able to do the same thing as our colleagues so that we don't experience problems, especially gambling addiction problems.

It is difficult to promote healthy gambling because in many people's minds, gambling is a place to make money. It is this mindset that they must be able to change and not make gambling a job or a place to make money. When they can change their mindset, only then will they be able to use gambling properly and they will only consider gambling as entertainment.
2012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: December 25, 2023, 05:12:43 AM
Indeed, loneliness may be difficult, and meaningful activities can help. Recognizing that everyone's journey is different is vital. As you said, joining a charity may be a lifeline for some; it gives them purpose and a sense of belonging. For others, the solution may be more complicated. Consider gambling. While typically perceived negatively, especially in the context of addiction, it can be a source of social contact and leisure if done responsibly. I've known people who enjoy occasional, limited gambling and community. Balance and self-awareness matter.

While avoiding casinos is a good idea, not all gamblers become addicted. Some use it to socialize and get a thrill. The objective is to promote healthy gambling and provide support for those who need it.
At least each person should be able to find a way to overcome his loneliness and instead become interested in gambling, especially if he has good memories of the past when he often gambled. A lonely person may reminisce about the past and think maybe I can go back to gambling to see if I still have good gambling skills. It can make them return to gambling and there is a possibility that they will become more enthusiastic than before. If they don't have good self-control, playing gambling again will be a disaster that they don't realize so they will only experience a gambling addiction.

But when he realises that his return to gambling is not something that should be done too often, he will not experience any problems, and he can even enjoy his gambling moments. He also won't gamble too often because he realizes that he can be addicted to gambling so he will try to find other things to keep busy rather than just thinking about gambling.
2013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 25, 2023, 04:42:54 AM
The big question in my head is,  why should we call those who operate a gambling as business under the same name and image as those who gamble,  I think having a casino is more of an investment and business which requires some level of professionalism which give some form of guarantee in the long run,  but in gambling,  gamblers have the highest risk to bear and for that they have to rely heavily on the luck factor since it all about uncertainty for them.

So for sure,  it's more less risky and profitable to have a gambling site that operates rightly,  than to be a gambler in the casino since being a gambler you are only a visitor to the casino and there just to have fun and the casino system is designed to favour the house,  so in that case,  the gambler is always at disadvantage while the casino operators is always at advantage.
For casino owners, they call it a long-term investment and a business where the casino can provide profits for them and continue to make a lot of money. But for gamblers, casinos are a place to gamble and you must use enough money. Otherwise, they will only lose a lot of money without being able to recover their losses. And it's true that gamblers also need luck to win so they can't expect the wins to come more often.

And we know that making a casino a source of investment requires a lot of money, so only people with a lot of money can make a casino. Meanwhile, gamblers can only depend on their luck to win money. If gamblers win a lot of money, they should also think about creating their own casino so that they don't need to gamble anymore but only need to calculate the amount of income that will go into their wallets. It will be more feasible for those gamblers so that they can stop gambling and will not have a gambling addiction anymore.
2014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 25, 2023, 04:15:10 AM
If they come with such an approach then obviously I think there is something to be suspicious of, or I mean I should suspect their goals, I am sure that they come  not for fun but only focus on winning, so instead of implementing some precautions but they are busy with finding many ways to get a win. If the involvement  is not too long then I think losing is not the end of the world, or it means that they will not mind the defeat because they still have a great passion for winning, and they will really feel the loss when the defeat really dominates.
If they only focus on winning, they should be prepared to be disappointed because they will see defeats coming more often than wins. Well, they may be able to see the wins coming, but the number is not greater than the losses that come, so they will still experience more and more losses. If they are more busy looking for ways to win, they will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment because they are obsessed with winning and it will become a bigger problem if they don't realize it soon. Besides that, their losses will increase the longer they gamble, so if they don't stop immediately, they could really run out of money.

As I said above and I think they will really realize or at least gain awareness when their financial condition is getting worse due to this activity, honestly on the other hand I think a situation like this is quite natural especially for beginners who have just come who certainly still have a high enthusiasm for a victory, especially if they always see other people who can get a victory, then obviously indirectly it increasingly brainwashes them to continue to get lost in the black hole of gambling, I think they will be able to really realize when they have experienced many problems that can certainly make them experience mental and psychological pressure.
Well, hopefully, they can really realize that their financial condition is getting worse, and they have to stop their gambling activities immediately. Otherwise, they will go bankrupt because they gamble too often and experience more losses. They must be honest with themselves so that awareness will come to them and say that they must immediately stop gambling. And this is indeed related to mental and psychological stress problems but they still have the possibility of leaving gambling if they want. But it depends on the intentions they have because most gamblers still want to gamble and still try to win some gambling games. This is what makes it difficult for many gamblers to quit gambling and even leave gambling forever.
2015  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 25, 2023, 03:42:00 AM
Friends might tell us about gambling, but its up to us to decide if we want to do it or not. Too naive to think that self-control and discipline can keep people from getting hurt by gambling. The urge to gambling can trick even the most responsible people. Its weak and wrong to blame our friends for our gambling. Our choices and outcomes must be our own. Friends can open the door, but going inside is a choice that should only be made after careful thought. The "benefits" of gambling are short-lived and not always real. The pain of losing and becoming addicted is greater than the pleasure of winning. Picking the smart thing? Be careful with gambling. Its riskier than it looks, and the stakes are usually higher than they seem.
Yes, that's true because if we know that it is gambling that can make us lose a lot of money, especially if we have heard of many people who suffer from losing their money in gambling, we don't need to continue gambling. We already know enough that gambling is okay as long as we can control ourselves and don't have the desire to chase victory. Unfortunately, many people forget their original goal of gambling and instead change that goal to try to get as much money as possible without seeing that winning from gambling is not easy.

We also can't blame friends who introduced us to gambling because we have to be responsible for ourselves and our money. If we see gambling as an activity that wastes money, we don't need to gamble. Many other activities can benefit us so we can choose to do those activities. Maybe we can still gamble sometimes in our free time, but we must always control ourselves and be disciplined in gambling so we don't lose much money.
2016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between Physical and Online Gambling which makes a person more addicted on: December 25, 2023, 03:20:19 AM
That is true, either way of these 2, the addiction will depend on the person himself, how he will handle himself in front of his games.
Because if the gambler really wants to gamble no matter what, he will find a way to gamble. So the addiction varies from person to person.
It is how they nurture their gambling habits, and what are their goals why they are getting addicted.
When someone is addicted to gambling, he will not be able to handle himself because all that is on his mind is the desire to continue gambling and there is nothing else on his mind. Maybe he doesn't even care about himself or the people around him, his family. He will be busy with himself and gamble more often than interacting with others around him. This has become a serious gambling addiction where he can no longer think clearly that what he does in gambling has changed him completely.

He can be lucky when people around him come and warn him and even help him to get out of his gambling activities so that he can realize that he has made a fatal mistake. From there, help from other people can begin to be seen by him because he will feel that he has to start changing and get back on the right track. So whatever the casino, physical or online casino, it can still make someone addicted to gambling and there is a possibility that it is even worse for people who are addicted to online gambling because they can gamble wherever they want.
2017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: December 25, 2023, 03:02:30 AM
Most of the time, and if by chance that there's some who managed to make some profits from this venue thru luck may suffer from losses eventually, there's no accurate or sure way aside from being the house itself. Though we can't remove that fact where gambler thinks that they can overrun the house and win continously. Quitting is not hard for those who choose to enjoy and be entertained,  but for those who wanted to earn and use this venue for income generating venue, they will just feel disappointed if the outcome turned against them.
They have to know that they can't beat the house. They can only enjoy their gambling activities without being able to make big profits, even though they can sometimes win from home. But the amount they win will not be as much as the amount they lose so it is still difficult for them to win large amounts of money. Stopping gambling is not as difficult as they imagine but the problem is how strong they desire to stop gambling and not use gambling anymore to get pleasure.

If they can do that, they will have no trouble quitting gambling and they may not even come close to gambling again. Those who realize this will try to find other types of entertainment that will not use up too much money so that they can save money for other purposes. And when they manage to save their money, maybe they will be surprised to see that they can collect quite a lot of money without gambling.
2018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: December 24, 2023, 02:32:36 PM
Has anyone tried gambling for 4-8 hours 5 days a week to make gambling as a regular full time job? I think it will be quite emotionally exhausting to do that. Moreover, if gambling would really be a profession, then it will mean that people would only earn from that (you dont go to work to lose money or work for free). Only earning from casinos means casino go bankrupt. That wont be a long lasting job.
Maybe few people can try gambling like that, while others will not be able to do it. There will be many emotions that will arise when playing gambling for that long every day. Maybe they can try it in a card game where several people have skills at playing cards and can win. But most gamblers still won't be able to do it. People also have to calculate how much money they can use to gamble during that time and they also have to think about the possibility of losing. If it's all not worth it, they don't have to do it, and most of the time, it won't be worth it.

Playing gambling for a full hour can cause your emotions to be out of control, let alone gambling for four to eight hours every day. It will make a person frustrated, especially if he experiences a lot of losses while he is gambling.
2019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 24, 2023, 01:42:28 PM
It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.
The risk would not be worth it if they wanted to finance someone in their gambling. That will only give them problems where, in gambling games, someone will not always be able to win. They will have the possibility of losing the gambling game and will be unable to return the money. They cannot expect to earn additional income from gambling, considering how difficult it is to win. And yes, gambling using your own money is better than borrowing money from other people or asking other people to finance your gambling.

Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling. Using money from his salary and providing a sufficient portion to be deposited into his gambling account will not affect his financial position so he can gamble comfortably. And this will depend on how he can manage his finances when gambling. If he can manage it well, he will not encounter any difficulties and enjoy his gambling activities well.
2020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do casino owners benefit from creating multiple casinos? on: December 24, 2023, 01:15:13 PM
If they have the money to fund extra casinos why not? A casino can generates billions in dollars per year and use the money to build another casino from scratch, when your business is lucrative even if it's not casino, won't you find ways to expand?  Why are we going to keep complaining about it?

As a gambler, your role is to maintain yourself in gambling, see how far you can get lucky, assuming I am gambling and having some luck on Stake casino and I heard that they now have two extra casinos, what do you expect me to do? Quit stake because they have more casinos?

Although this comes with a lot of risks, as some casinos can't even manage more than one, yet they proceed and they will end up hurting the main casino they are used to managing, the whole business will crumble.
Casino owners who have well-developed casinos want to get additional profits from the gambling business so they want to create new casinos. They already have capital from the profits they got from their old casino so they can set aside some of the money as capital to build a new casino. They also have experience in running a casino. Hence, they are familiar with everything and they may ask for opinions from their members first before they announce their new casino.

If the casino owner can get employees with expertise in managing his new casino, the new casino can develop well and gain a reputation. If that happens, the casino owner can get even more profits so that his business can develop even better. What is important is how the casino owner can manage his casinos well and not have problems with anything so that the casino owner can focus on developing all his casinos.
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