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2021  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - A Bitcoin Mining Company on: May 28, 2011, 03:25:47 PM
While the market is unregulated the bitcoin community will be very harsh on anyone who fails to deliver what they promised. It really shows that a good reputation goes a long way when judging the merits of an offering.



True, but this community wrath will fall on someone who could get lots of money and is free to go and create a new identity, rinse and repeat.

But you cannot be more right about value of reputation. It is bitcoin's version of a brand. This is why I am so surprised by investors optimism on some projects. Particularly given that investments are in bitcoins. Could have just held bitcoins.




2022  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - A Bitcoin Mining Company on: May 28, 2011, 03:13:43 PM
Read again what mrb and xf2_org said above in this thread. These two do know what they are talking about. And I cannot agree with them more.

Sorry for being so grim here but whoever gave his money to an anonymous person on the Internet with a voice of a 16 year old via an unregulated marketplace fully deserves whatever  return on investment he gets.

Trust me, running 20 Ghps set of rigs is far from trivial and if you hired some anonymous kid to do it for you... well
some more DD next time maybe?

I am not a shareholder. Though, I wish there was a possibility to go short, preferably naked short ... Nefario: can I?

BTW: 1Ghps produces on average 13.96 diff 1 shares per minute. This makes it very easy to accurately estimate actual useful hashing power for given number of shares accepted by a pool for given period of time.






2023  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: UK exchange: Britcoin on: May 27, 2011, 11:03:17 AM
Britcoin is one of the top 5 exchanges in the world by volume. The operator is not even charging any fees (AFAIK) and running it in alpha/beta  testing mode while reportedly providing great service. Give the guy a break.

Britcoin is likely will be my exchange of choice should one day I want/need to sell some bitcoins.
2024  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Will bitcoin computation power eventually rest in the hands of a few? on: May 27, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
Pareto principle should apply IMO. This means that 80% of hashing power will be concentrated in hands of 20% of [bitcoin mining] population. It is probably the case already.
2025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Recent large buys all happen around 00:00 UTC? on: May 27, 2011, 10:51:14 AM

The housing/bailout shit is totally different. They played the market in a bad way and lost and then stole money to make themselves whole. Yes, they made houses too expensive, people who did the right thing and refrained from overpaying for a house should have benefited by their saved dollars being worth much more, but instead new dollars were printed their deserved gains were taken and given to the losers of those bets.


Nice one, it is one of the best and simplest explanation of what's going on with the housing bubble. In UK it is even worse, they have not allowed it to pop at all. It seems robbing prudent and giving to banksters and over indebted idiots is the new black. One more reasons why Bitcoin will be a HUGE success.
2026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Recent large buys all happen around 00:00 UTC? on: May 27, 2011, 10:21:00 AM
If from the above we can infer that US bitcoin population is selling and the rest of the word is buying than there is no surprise. Lots of early adopters are from US. Lots of investors are coming in from everywhere. I do not see anything surprising there.

However it could mean that early bitcoin fortunes are being liquidate/diversified and transferred to latecomers which is only natural.

2027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why BTC hasn't and wont hit the mainstream: on: May 27, 2011, 10:05:26 AM
The Internet was a nerd freindly only system one day too.
2028  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: selling mining contracts 400£ per Ghps per Month on: May 27, 2011, 08:12:19 AM
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2029  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Top500 Supercomputers on: May 26, 2011, 11:12:05 PM

http://www.top500.org/

#1 Tianhe-1A ; Rpeak = 4701 Tflops
http://www.top500.org/system/performance/10587

#2 Cray "Jaguar";  Rpeak = 2331 Tflops
http://www.top500.org/system/performance/10184

Combined total of Top500 supercomputers is 43673 Tflops
http://www.top500.org/lists/2010/11/performance_development

#0 Bitcoin Grid GPU/CPU ; Rpeak = untested, estimate 15106 Tflops
http://www.bitcoinwatch.com/



Tianhe-1A hashing power, very accurately IMO has been estimated as 850 Ghps. Assuming the rest of top 500 supercomputers have the same TFLOPS/Ghps ratio than bitcoin needs to hit 8Thps to dwarf all top 500 supercomputers combined. We are more than halfway there already. Another difficulty increase or two and 50% attack with supercomputers would require all those babies in top 500 list combined. Moreover while they configure them to do something bitcoin network would double once more.




2030  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Second Life citizens dump SLL for bitcoins on virvox on: May 26, 2011, 10:55:54 PM
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Quite an interesting spike with volume here. Some Second Life people woke up to the possibilities maybe...
2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [RFC] Our next denomination: UBC on: May 26, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
One question.

BTC = Bitcoin
UBC = ?

University of British Columbia?  Grin
2032  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculators on: May 26, 2011, 08:39:43 PM
re Soros: why don't you get together 100k$, find a tiny penny stock, and try to buy all the shares. Nice experiment, which would closely emulate your proposed course of action for Soros. Please report back the results.
2033  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculators on: May 26, 2011, 07:47:54 PM
...
but the way the system is now seems like a scam to make billionaires out of the early adopters to me (if it works).
...

Indeed it might look like that, but how is it different from IBM, MS, Google, Facebook, Paypal, Visa, Mastercard, Intel, Wallmart and any other successful company out there. Why all of the sudden do they not look like scam carried out to make  billionaires out of their founders?

...
I see a growing problem with deflation over the long run with this currency.  Can the Bitcoins continue to be replenished even after the 21 million mark is reached?  If not the currency is doomed to die.
...

Just consider the implications of a scenario where you are wrong on this one.

2034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / FTSE edges up as strong miners counter weak banks (Reuters) on: May 26, 2011, 04:38:35 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/26/markets-britain-stocks-idUSLDE74P1AR20110526


Saw the above headline and thought "aha bitcoin miners give hard time to the banks". Too bad... turned out reuters meant other miners...  Grin
2035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How much bitcoins one need to get in upcoming (eventually) Forbes 500 list? on: May 26, 2011, 02:12:21 AM
How much bitcoins one need to get in upcoming (eventually) Forbes 500 list?

I mean the list of  500 largest bitcoin fortunes.

Assuming that current bitcoin owning population is 60 000 and there are 6 million bitcoins and Pareto principle applies recursively it can be calculated that at the moment one needs just about 3000 BTC to get into the top 5oo.

But I could have messed up the math, of course.





2036  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: google is going to help :) on: May 26, 2011, 01:42:28 AM
Considering how they screwed goldman sucks on the IPO, I would not be surprised at all if G makes their payment system currency agnostic and as such supporting bitcoin. Actually it might be their only chance to really make it a real success.
2037  Other / Meta / Re: Designated "business etiquette" boards on: May 25, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
I support eMansipater. Let's face it this forum is as official for bitcoin as it gets and perception matters. A lot of juvenile flames does not help it. If it comes to that I would prefer politics and flames moving to another forum.

As a reasonable compromise though we really could coexist. eMancipater, you are the damn moderator, go and expand list of subforums and set up some simple, subforum specific  rules. Problem solved.
2038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New bitcoin logo on: May 25, 2011, 09:07:58 AM
yep credit to epii , I just found it most appealing.
2039  Economy / Economics / Re: my argument against the so called deflation problem on: May 25, 2011, 07:57:59 AM
There is another argument against the so called deflation problem: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544#

It is 47 minutes long but it is the best ever explanation of how money work in modern world.
2040  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New bitcoin logo on: May 25, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
"Vires in Numeris" = "Strength in Numbers" is appealing the most to me. It is simple and works on more than one level at the same time.
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