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2021  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-17]HSBC Claims it Performed the World’s First Trade Transaction via Blo on: May 17, 2018, 05:40:29 PM
Old story

The 1st trade transaction using a blockchain happened on this forum, in 2010. HSBC appear to be taking credit, and I always assumed the 10 thousand BTC pizzas were ordered by bitcointalk member Laszlo, not HSBC! Maybe there's something Laszlo wasn't telling back then... Grin
2022  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2018-05-17 Bitcoin Mining To Use 0.5% Of World’s Energy By End Of 2018, Peer-Rev on: May 17, 2018, 04:06:49 PM
In mid-February, it was reported that crypto mining in the country of Iceland would consume more energy than households in 2018

What's the source of the electricity in Iceland? Geothermal renewable Roll Eyes


Typical idiot journalism and academic work here. Nowhere does this article mention the reason why cryptocurrency mining uses energy (although a reason is given, which is incorrect).

What would you expect from Cointelegraph.com, though? The article appears to be copy-pasted directly from some other publication anyway, which strongly implies Cointelegraph.com don't employ anyone to check the text in "their" stories, which you'd think would be particularly important when the text has been copied from a different website
2023  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-16] EU Adopts Rules to Reduce Anonymity for Crypto Users on: May 17, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
I feel like EU is using terrorism as an excuse to get more control over crypto sphere

The use of the word "terrorist" is particularly hypocritcal when voiced by any government. The only difference between governments and terrorists is that governments succeed in using violence (or threats thereof) to achieve political objectives, and terrorists usually fail.

Maybe that's why cryptocurrency is so demonised by the establishment in general: Bitcoin is a completely non-violent way to achieve true egalitarianism, which governments would like to think comes out of the barrel of a gun.


Governments as a whole are always hiding behind proxies to get something done, which is just pathetic.

Including, ironically, acts to terrorise people into doing what they want
2024  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-16] JPMorgan Co-President: Cryptocurrency “Will Play a Role” in Future on: May 17, 2018, 12:31:40 PM
BREAKING NEWS:

BANKER DISLIKES ANTI-BANK TECH
2025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Debunking the "anyone can make a crypto" argument against Bitcoin on: May 16, 2018, 12:46:06 PM
Bitcoincash might not be processing many transactions - but Ethereum certainly is.

In the last 24 hours, transactions were as follows:

Bitcoin: 162,213

Ethereum: 763,340

Ripple: 908,938

Litecoin: 75,274

Scaling is happening - but it's happening outside bitcoin.

How many Lightning transactions happened in the same 24 hours?

Scaling already happened, and all those coins above are completely irrelevant now. Bitcoin now needs privacy, scaling is over



And Ethereum's market cap is catching up to Bitcoin too. If bitcoin doesn't solve it's merchant adoption problem, the flippening will happen.

Ethereum and Ripple aren't decentralised, your comparison is meaningless
2026  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-15] Predictions of Bitcoin Price to Sky-High by 2019 on: May 16, 2018, 10:37:19 AM
1. the number of Bitcoins is limited; 2. the demand is constantly rising. At some point in the future there will be a situation when those cheaply bought coins will be sold out while the demand will not decrease, but rather increase because according to different independent researches Bitcoin is still used by less than 0.3% of the world's population.

It's happening slowly already, but eventually the full impact of the last 10 years of money printing is going to find it's way into the price of everything. Notice how massive political destabilisation is taking place in pretty much all oil extracting regions of the world right now. The price of "everything" is being primed for alot of inflation. The Bitcoin price will increase more than ever as a reaction to the outcome of the aforementioned trends than to anything else previously, these are very long term phenomena.  
2027  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-15] Predictions of Bitcoin Price to Sky-High by 2019 on: May 16, 2018, 10:00:52 AM
Weak article, based mostly on wishful thinking. They mostly renew the old "argument" that "because hashrate is high, price will go higher". They suppose miners are great at predicting prices, and if they predict prices right, they'll be right ... Someone found circular reasoning here?

The error in this "school of thinking" is that miners already invested in Bitcoin - in the form of mining hardware. They cannot get out easily, and most of them very likely invested in hardware in 2017 when the market was all bullish. Current price should be OK for them to profit, so why should they turn off their miners?

In conclusion, I think it's impossible to predict a price rally only because of mining activity.

The closer we come to the block halving, and the important events and developments, the price is pretty much guaranteed to increase, especially in the latter part of 2019.
As much as I would love a "guaranteed" price increase, there isn't such a thing ... Otherwise, why are people not buying NOW and sending BTC to da moon again? It's because there is some fear in the market.

It isn't that easy that after one dump more we'll grow again. BTC is already valued pretty high, so there must be reasons to invest in it. A new bull market can be triggered by a "fundamental" reason - e.g. a well-working and popular LN or another technology making mass adoption possible, or simply by greed. 2017 was a mix of both - the fundamental reason being Segwit and the financial products based on BTC (futures etc.) launching, and greed complementing these reasons to a very bullish picture.


I agree with some of what you're saying, but you're contradicting yourself here.

Saying "fundamental reasons" are needed to trigger bull markets, but dismissing reward halving or hashrate increases as possible such reasons isn't supported by any reasoning you provided. What I do agree with is where you state that "greed" (or more appropriately, "demand") is important, it's one of few factors we can measure in any way at all. Lightning network use cannot be measured very effectively, the only way that matters (counting the number of Lightning channels) is going to be rendered irrelevant once exchanges begin to use Lightning.

And so empirical measurements are the key, I believe. Even demand is a difficult metric to accurately ascertain. It's all very well claiming that this event or another was the cause of a given price move, but it's always just a theory. There will exist some extent to which Bitcoin exchanges and those responsible for big news stories (e.g. "Chinese gov bans Bitcoin for the 100th time") are colluding in pump and dumps. I think we're all too aware of specious numbers (I hesitate to call it "data") coming from exchanges already (remember the laughably high volume figures that certain exchanges would publish, or the innumerable solvency numbers and subsequent bankruptcies that have taken place?).

The advantage of the reward halving is that it's empirically factual, there is no maybe or perhaps about it, and the time and the magnitude are known to all. The BTC supply (and it's 4 yearly halving) is the only accurate component of the price equation that exists. Unfortunately for your arguments, the same is true of the hashrate; it's impossible to manipulate and the effects on Bitcoin's value proposition and price are well known (if somewhat complex and disputed). Talking up (easily manipulated) events is simply playing into the hands of those who may seek to manipulate that price. And you wouldn't want to fuel or be associated with manipulation, would you?
2028  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [04-05-2018] Physical Bitcoin Smart Banknotes Launched In Signapore on: May 16, 2018, 09:07:29 AM
The chip is highly secure and independently certified. Our proprietary firmware is beautifully simple and audited by Kudelski Group, look it up. https://twitter.com/kudelski/status/994105585825144832

The chip and firmware guarantee no import or export of keys is possible — the chip creates it's own unique private key and can never disclose it. There's manufacturer attestation mechanism on the same secure chip to prevent any chance of counterfeits. You don't have to trust anyone.

You're contradicting yourself perfectly. It doesn't matter how simple the firmware is, it's proprietary, and that means users cannot verify your claims without spending the BTC from these notes.

Tangem notes don't need "independent certification" or "manufacturer attestation" if there's no need to trust anyone. That literally means customers are being invited to trust your attestations and certifications.


A significant part of what makes Bitcoin valuable is that anyone can verify the validity of a payment, not just a company paid by a manufacturer to do so. The previous physical Bitcoin producers (or at least Casascius anyway) were very upfront that trust was essential to their product, that made it easier to trust them. The fact that you at Tangem either don't understand that, or are wilfully misrepresenting the fact, makes it much much more difficult to trust you or your notes.
2029  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [04-05-2018] Physical Bitcoin Smart Banknotes Launched In Signapore on: May 15, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
The site recently added more information, including this:

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The value can be extracted at any time by signing a transaction from the Tangem Note to an arbitrary Bitcoin wallet. This requires a compatible NFC–enabled Android phone and is protected by a 60–to–120–second security delay. Faraday wallets recommended for additional security.
 

Private keys cannot be imported or exported from Tangem Notes under any circumstance. No backup possible — by design. Each Tangem Note creates its own private keys and can never disclose them. The value is completely tied to the physical chip. Loss, theft, or destruction of a Tangem Note will result in loss of funds.

It looks like the chip will sign transactions, so it is like a hardware wallet.


Hmmm, well it could be worse.

But still, there is only one way to discover whether Tangem Notes are either counterfeits (or if Tangem are simply flashing memory chips with the same keys more than once), and that's to spend every Tangem note before you accept it from someone else.

I can imagine this working well:

Store: "So, let me just spend this Tangem note to an address I control, then I'll give you your goods"
Customer: "Uh, how about no?"

You can't really give a Tangem note to someone else, there's nothing to prove that there isn't another Tangem note that has access to the same private key. Except Tangem promising there isn't, of course.

In Tangem We Trust!
2030  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Resurrecting the Champ: PoW to become Bitmain/Buterin resistant on: May 14, 2018, 09:30:38 PM
a non-trivial portion of the more complex parts of the instrucion set
Yeah, that is the key.

At the moment I don't have time to write a longer discussion, so for now I'll repost what I wrote in another thread. We'll see which of those new threads will get most intelligent discussion.

As a miner, this frightens me because when this era of "flexible ASICs" arrive, GPU miners will definitely be obsolete. Add this to the threat of Ethereum going POS, it seems like the odds are stacked against us regular home-based miners. This might be a signal that now is a good time to liquidate mining rig assets and just directly invest in coins.

But the general idea is very simple: if you don't want your XYZ devices to become, play to their strengths in designing the hash function.

Would it be worth pursuing the obverse strategy also, i.e. try to target the weaknesses of ASICs when designing the hash algorithm?


An idea I've been fond of in the past is using a series of hash algos drawn randomly from a set, with the series also changing size randomly within a range, and a random interval between changes in the composition and size of the series (credit to Meni Rosenfeld for that idea).

But could there be other techniques to use the same strategy? Could a hash be written such that the potential for physical flaws in an attempted ASIC chip die would undermine the manufacturing yield, e.g. force chip designers to make individual chips that would need to be >30 cm2?
2031  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [04-05-2018] Physical Bitcoin Smart Banknotes Launched In Signapore on: May 14, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
Only the chip creates and controls the private key, it's impossible to export or import the key. The firmware is audited and the chip is highly certified.

So the blockchain address is accessible, but the private key is not?

If so, there's a flaw in your model, and you've misunderstood how cryptographic keypairs work. There's no way for anyone holding a Tangem Bitcoin note to prove that they own the money at the respective Bitcoin address on each note.  

How can you prove that the money at these addresses is money sent to the address by Tangem, and not just any random bitcoin blockchain address with 0.01 BTC contained? How can people be sure Tangem didn't use the same address twice, three, four or a hundred times on different notes? Are you going to release videos of Tangem workers sending each transaction to every Tangem note ever made? Will that be enough for people to trust the funds are really unspendable by Tangem, or that you aren't re-using addresses over multiple notes?
2032  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: On Segwit not being backwards compatible question on: May 14, 2018, 12:09:45 PM
Is there any way to patent the name "Bitcoin" because V and his lads wont stop these kind of propaganda unless there's something regulating the "names".

There is something "regulating the names", it's the brains and respective mouths of the people involved in cryptocurrency. If some people want to shout very loudly "Bitcoin Best is the real Bitcoin!", it doesn't much matter, because no-one else will care.

Besides, being called "Bitcoin" doesn't make something inherently or universally good, there are (probably) a majority of people out there that dislike Bitcoin, and so to them the name carries nothing but negative connotations.

The trouble with legislating this sort of thing is that the legal system is pretty corrupt already, and Bitcoin is treading on the toes of an even more corrupt system (the banking system). Do you honestly feel confident that a legal judgement about the "real Bitcoin" will produce the "right" answer?
2033  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.96.3 released on: May 11, 2018, 06:40:57 PM
The last thing I didn't do yet is delete the ArmoryDB database?

Try that. I had a similar sounding problem to yours, solved when I nuked the database files and rebuilt from zero.
2034  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: On Segwit not being backwards compatible question on: May 09, 2018, 03:54:04 PM
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segwit is a consensus rule break. hense why from november 2016-summer 2017 they only had 35% consensus vote and thus segwit would not have got activated as it would caused issues to the network at 35%

thats why they got bloq to make cash. to get rid of the 65% opposers. so that segwit could fake a 95% vote to activate segwit

bloq and core are partners in crime. the bilateral split was a bi-directional (2 altcoin) event that both are different codebases,, address types, network topology compared to bitcoin 2009-2013

Is this bullshit? Then what really happened?

The text above in particular is pure imagination. No evidence exists that Bitcoin Core (or DGC) deliberately created Bitcoin Cash to force miners (the 65% opposed) onto the Bitcoin Cash chain.

Evidence does exist that even if that was the secret plan, it most certainly didn't work: Bitcoin Cash would have 65% of the global hashrate now if that were true. Bitcoin Cash has never had anything close to that hashrate, now or in the past (it's not even reached double digits IIRC)


What actually happened was that the miners compromised with BIP91, probably because they wanted to make sure they could continue mining without causing a controversy that would affect the BTC price too much. BIP91 was an aggressive way of getting BIP 141 (the Segwit softfork) activated, which was achieved by orphaning non-segwit signalling blocks and activating Segwit at an 80% signalling level instead of the 95% signalling level required by BIP141. BIP91 was similar to the UASF BIP148/9 in that way, it took what was a simple signalling exercise and changed into something more forceful.

Only miners ran the BIP91 code, as far as the rest of the Bitcoin network was concerned, BIP141 got it's 95% signalling and BIP91 never existed (segwit signalling went straight to 95% anyway very quickly after miners started running BIP91, which is kind of predictable seeing as miners risked losing any blocks they mined once 80% of miners were signalling BIP141). I don't know how many miners were actually ever running BIP91, as simply signalling BIP141 was enough to make sure they could continue mining without having their blocks automatically orphaned. BIP91 was a risky move, but it all happened so quickly that there was little time for anyone much to feel nervous about it (except the miners not signalling BIP141 yet, who were probably pretty stressed out for a day or so)


TBH WindFURY, you should be able to tell that most of this is nonsense without having to ask anyone; the writer suggests that the old style of Bitcoin addresses (starting with a 1) can no longer be used. This is so obviously false that it's not really worth giving any of it much time.
2035  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A critique on the Lightning Network from a regular poster. Long. on: May 09, 2018, 03:06:34 PM
Core should've raised the blocksize at least 2MB while developing LN

They did, the limit is now 4x higher at 4MB.

Biggest ever Bitcoin block was 2.3 MB. That's bigger than the 2MB you're asking for.


because the tech is still unproven


Lightning testing has been conducted on the Bitcoin testnet for over 1 year, and increasingly large amounts of people are using it with the live Bitcoin blockchain (6000+ channels moving around 18 BTC right now).

Lightning payment channels are proven technology, by definition. It's been tested extensively now.


and so many different concepts make it even more doubtful

Name them.


I just don't get it, they could prevent bcash split and still developing LN. Oh whatever will be, will be...

No-one can prevent forks in the code or any blockchain forks caused by forked code. The Bitcoin developers can only do their best to make sure that Bitcoin users stay on the Bitcoin chain, they cannot control the actions of people deliberately splitting the blockchain.
2036  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.96.4 release on: May 09, 2018, 01:18:10 PM


So having >= 0.96.4 as your offline signing software is necessary if you're using Segwit addresses.

Thnx,  it clarifies things.  I'm still not using Segwit addresses,  but there's no harm in planning ahead, right?   Hope all goes well if 0.96.4 will be installed a top of 0.96.3 i.e.  without uninstall of previous version.

If you don't intend to use segwit addresses any time soon, then it's probably not worth changing. It sounds as if the transaction signing functionality in Armory will be getting additional capabilities in the next version too (as there will be a new wallet format).
2037  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will happen when 1 satoshi is $ 1? on: May 08, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
Maybe the "it'll never happen" people are all forgetting something:

$1 dollar is about 10,000 satoshis now

(and $1 dollar was worth only 5000 satoshis when BTC was $20,000)


1 BTC = $1 dollar? People said "it'll never happen"
1 BTC = $100 dollars? People said "it'll never happen"
1 BTC = $1,000 dollars? People said "it'll never happen"
1 BTC = $10,000 dollars? People said "it'll never happen"


With the continuing improvements in Bitcoin tech (and the continuing deterioration in democracy), BTC will break $100,000 dollars in the next few years, maybe even in 2019. What will you guys all be saying then (when $1 dollar will be just 1000 satoshis...) Smiley
2038  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.96.4 release on: May 08, 2018, 12:50:04 PM
Hi, goatpig, I have upgraded my watch-only  wallet to the latest 0.96.4 release. But should I upgrade my cold one (v. 0.96.3) to be on the safe side (or I can leave it as it is)?

leave it

I think 0.96.4 is needed to fix a tx signing bug when spending segwit outputs:

changelog:

Quote
[snip]
== Fixed ==
   - Fixed creating offline transactions that mix P2SH and P2PKH UTXOs.
   - Fixed importing wallets progress report and scan resolution in the GUI.
   - Fixed SegWit sighash data serialization with scripts of length > 256 bytes.
[snip]

So having >= 0.96.4 as your offline signing software is necessary if you're using Segwit addresses.
2039  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A critique on the Lightning Network from a regular poster. Long. on: April 28, 2018, 11:19:38 AM
Second layer technologies like this will only be centralized, if it was controlled by centralized entities, but the LN is open to everyone. Big difference, right.  Wink

Lightning devs are also working on a routing algorithm that causes the network graph to be arranged like a grid. It's gonna be pretty difficult for hub-like nodes to monopolise routing when that techniques makes it into the protocol, trying to predict which nodes to open channels with could become frustrating experience if the hub operator was trying to make money. It'll make more sense to just open up lots of independent grid nodes, in the hope that you can somehow predict where money will flow on the network, and put nodes in strategic parts of the overall network graph. And the network graph is going to be changing shape (and it's payment flow dynamics) constantly, so the algorithm that places your (supposedly profit making) nodes needs to be able to predict the randomness of payment demands, in essence. There cannot be 100% success rate, let's just put it that way, and it wouldn't surprise me if profit making Lighning nodes is a non-viable business in that scenario.
2040  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-04-26] Mining Rewards Show You What The Bitcoin Price Will Do on: April 26, 2018, 10:11:13 PM
I disagree with the article. Not only does the value of the block reward directly depend on the price, but it also depends on the difficulty, which also depends on the price and lags it. There is no component of the block reward that leads the price.

Forbes.com, still learning about the dynamics of cryptocurrency mining tech nearly 10 years too late  Undecided
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