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1981  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin block size? on: May 31, 2018, 12:44:46 AM
Nope

Every piece of information you posted is wrong

Please search for information before you post topics that contain totally incorrect information
1982  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Using Armory on the BCH chain on: May 30, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Trezor can hold BCH, BTC and BTG. It's a good idea to put an extra pass phrase on each Trezor account before sending coins to Trezor. That way even if someone gets your seed words list or device they still can't get the coins. You also want to make sure it hasn't been tampered with. Generate you're own seed words and number phrase.

Apparently, that's a bad idea. There's a way of figuring out that passphrases exist for a given Trezor seed, whereas if you don't use a passphrase, then it can be proved that you don't have any passphrased accounts pertaining to the same seed mnemonic.
1983  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Question about LN routing at 1 Million TPS on: May 30, 2018, 10:29:28 PM
We're both wwwwwwwway off topic. Jut throwing that out there
1984  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-24] US opens investigation into Bitcoin price manipulation on: May 29, 2018, 08:14:34 PM
I'm not saying it's definitely gonna happen, but I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if it did.

The chances are high for it to happen. I strongly believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with OKCoin and Huobi, and it has been the case for a long time (years now). If China ever is going to only allow one or two exchanges to operate, just to stay well positioned in terms of control, then it will be the aforementioned ones for sure. If we look back at how everything has been going with these exchanges, then it's safe to say that the Chinese government was very (suspiciously) mild towards the two giants. In order to come back strong, these exchanges need to build on their brand and position in this market, and that's exactly what they are doing.

I think it's pretty likely.

The Chinese government know this sub-culture all too well. The system there is that all large businesses must have at least 1 board member from the Communist Party, maybe more for the largest firms (and likely state espionage agents get sent in to be extra watchful over sensitive companies like cryptocurrency related ones). So all that corruption that allowed all those scandals at chinese exchanges? Probably done with Chinese government approval most of the time. So if you think Huobi, OKCoin or BTCC (or any miner manufacturers...) got an easy ride, it's pretty obvious why.
1985  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-29] Bitcoin Core Fees Fall to Their Lowest in Years on: May 29, 2018, 07:50:54 PM
With lightning network comes into the picture the fee will become even lower, and end the fiasco of unreasonable fees for good.

High fees have only ever been needed to make ASAP transactions, you could always pay less than the most expensive fee, just with a delayed confirmation depending on how little you paid.

Anyone who paid high fees in the past thought it was worth it, they needed a fast payment. They would find a way to wait otherwise.

And it'll always be like that, there will be quiet times (when it's a good time to set up payment channels or tidy up dusty outputs in your wallet), and there will be super busy times, when you sit back and let everyone do what they should've done months ago. Bitcoin network congestion is a bit like Christmas shopping lol, there's always plenty of masochistic people who just love to all go together on Christmas Eve.
1986  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-29] Bitcoin Beats Euro As Brewing Italian Crisis Delivers 6% Monthly Lo on: May 29, 2018, 07:35:26 PM
Never mind that, the Euro (and every other fiat currency, and gold/silver/platinum etc) have lost an infinite % of value against Bitcoin since the genesis block, which was valued at a big fat zero until the year 2010.

Even if we start the comparison from when 1 BTC = 0.005 pizzas (the legendary 5000 BTC/pizza deal, made here on Bitcointalk.org), Bitcoin has still risen many thousands of percentage points in value against fiat currencies (currently BTC is around 150,000% up against the USD, if measured from the pizza deal)


The Euro started around 9 years before Bitcoin, and it's still worth a little more than 1$. Maybe it'll get a boost from the talked-about settling of oil deals with the Shanghai Cooperation Agreement countries in Euros, but it's hard to see how it can possibly compete with Bitcoin's growth in value.
1987  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-24] US opens investigation into Bitcoin price manipulation on: May 29, 2018, 07:02:35 PM
Now if they do find some anomaly where the exchange itself is creating fake bids that really don't exist then that it a different thing

Exchanges haven't been shy of doing that in the past. It will likely occur less nowadays with regulators pushing forward, but I'm sure that there still is some interesting and shady activity happening on OKCoin and Huobi. It's quite strange how these exchanges have managed to recoup their dominance that easily. It's either them creating a whole load of fake volumes, or they have granted various parties free trading in return for volumes and liquidity. It's just impossible for them to grow that fast after how their operations have been suffering badly from the harsh Chinese regulations. If things look too good to be true, then they mostly are....

The Chinese government did not manipulate the market by spreading FUD like many of us have thought. They were already pushing the cryptospace out of their country during those times in 2016 and 2017. Now it's out.

The same warning signs are happening once again in America I reckon.
China severely manipulates the markets. I am more inclined to think that eventually, when they have all legal means to set up a powerful regulatory framework to keep crypto in check, they will open again. China's only incentive is to slow down crypto's growth to buy themselves time to come up with that regulatory framework.

The reason they upped their anti regulations is because of how ineffective the previous regulations were. Crypto kept growing and growing, and for that reason it forced them to go a few steps further. If they really wanted to ban crypto entirely, they would have done it back in the early days. Imagine how much growth we would have gone through if China was still legally allowed to buy in.


What would you all say if China were to have a sudden change of mind, and reallow Chinese crypto exchanges "to fight the black market" Grin Imagine if they did this just a few weeks (or even days) after a consensus market bottom? Cheesy

I'm not saying it's definitely gonna happen, but I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if it did.
1988  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-29] A New Twist On Lightning Tech Could Be Coming Soon to Bitcoin on: May 29, 2018, 05:16:17 PM
It's still very early days for eltoo (still being discussed informally, which is the source of this story). But it'll be a nice alternative to the original Lightning protocol stack if it becomes available (I say "alternative" because there are apparently some trade-offs)

Also, the article is a bit confusing, there's an implication that stale channel states will no longer be an issue, but from what I read about eltoo, that isn't totally true.
1989  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-29] Bitcoin Core Fees Fall to Their Lowest in Years on: May 29, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
This is just going to become faster and cheaper as the Lighting Network reach maturity.  Wink

Eventually, so many people will probably be more familiar with Lightning than they are with the main chain1 that even those that don't care about technical arguments will know these claims about Bitcoin's capacity are just plain wrong

1once Lightning is mature, there's much less incentive to use on-chain transactions to introduce people to Bitcoin with the typical low amounts of BTC, which Lightning is better suited to providing
1990  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Question about LN routing at 1 Million TPS on: May 28, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
Take a look at the success of companies like Netflix. They are not charging you a micropayment for every
minute of content that you consume, but rather charge a flat monthly fee.

I highly doubt that Netflix would be more successful if they would abandon their current business model.

Netflix's business model is to borrow loads of money, then charge users less than their costs. They never made any profit on streaming; they're in huge, ever increasing debt.

(the idea is to establish themselves in the streaming marketplace, then massively ramp up the subscription fees later)


There's no reason why a Netflix-like company wouldn't add pay-per-view to their model, but only when they're sufficiently dominant in the overall pay-TV market (i.e. once they've eclipsed cable providers altogether, and once their customers feel reliant on their service)
1991  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-27] 331 High-Income Traders Declared Crypto Profits in Japan on: May 28, 2018, 12:09:40 PM
I wonder if there will ever be a point where they rework their crypto tax rates. If you can't tempt to make people declare their profits at current rates, you have to lower them in order to take away the main obstacle.

It's not very likely. The thing with governments lowering tax rates is that they aren't actually being lowered. If they lower the highest tax bracket from 55% to 40% (which is still crazy high), they will make sure that the tax rates elsewhere will be increased to make up for it. In the end it's still the people paying for it, but just through an alternative way.

It's not as simple as that.

Charging more than 50% tax on any taxable event drives up the non-compliance rate. What rate of compliance do you think governments get if they charge 101% tax rates? (clue: it's not 101%)

You just have to ask yourself whether or not it's worth paying such insane rates. What did the government do for you that they 'deserve' a 55% cut of your profits? They haven't done shit. They are only making life difficult for you and they are being rewarded for it to keep doing so for plenty of more years. Tax evasion happens for a reason, governments know that but they don't care. They will make you pay what's due in every possible way.

I agree with all of that, except "They will make you pay what's due in every possible way". If you keep your crypto in your own custody as much as you can, there's literally nothing any government can do to stealcollect.

This puts everyone on the same level as the government cronies, who don't pay any taxes at all.
1992  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-26] UK Company Acquires ‘Bitcoin’ Trademark, Allegedly Threatens Etsy S on: May 26, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
The UK is not the US. In the US patent trolling can be a full time career, Britain has a legal system that does things other than line the richest pockets.

Your tribalism is blinding you.

If the trademark holder's case is "I own the trademark to `Bitcoin` in it's entirety" then you might have a point, but it's unlikely that such a vague definition would be accepted as a trademark to begin with. Common knowledge of Bitcoin's existence was in place in 2016 when the trademark was granted, as well as in any court cases in 2018 or thereafter. This is without even broaching the issue of the integrity of the British legal system (which has been variously very corrupt in instances where the interests of the *ahem* richest pockets was in question)
1993  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-25] CheapAir Ditches BitPay For Open-Source Bitcoin Payments on: May 26, 2018, 12:35:17 PM
Gotta admit I hadn't known about BTCpay til this post, seems they've been around at least from last November but the website seems to still say the API is compatible with BitPay service?

Ok, so I'll attempt to clarify

BTCpay is designed as a drop-in replacement for Bitpay, that way merchants can ditch Bitpay with minimal difficulty (hence the API compatibility).

But BTCpay isn't a payments processor, just a DIY software interface. The idea is that the merchant gets an account at a BTC exchange, then uses that account to sell BTC from their customers on whatever exchange they like (automated like Bitpay, the customer sends BTC direct to the merchant's exchange account when paying for goods). This has the advantage of getting around Bitpay's cash-out limits, protecting customer privacy and minimising risks (no reason why more than 1 exchange couldn't be used).


BTCpay will likely integrate Lightning payments fairly quickly too, at least 1 BTCpay developer is a frequent contributor to one of the Lightning implementations. How soon Lightning happens with Bitpay is anyone's guess, they have apparently been trying to make life more difficult for their customer base of late. It wouldn't surprise me if Cheapair's action here is a direct consequence of Bitpay's bizarre behaviour (Cheapair made their name accepting Bitcoin, so presumably alot of their customer base depended on being able to use Bitpay, which is no longer easy).
1994  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How many Bitcoin Core alternatives do exist? on: May 26, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
It's probably better not to use the term at all in these cases. And just wait until the dust settles before labeling anything an altcoin. That was probably a mistake. Actually now that I think back on it I think I remember LukeJr being one of the first to start pushing that label, and I was annoyed that he and others were trying to expand the definition of an altcoin.

I tend not to even use the expression "altcoin" these days, it's not really meaningful now that there are at least some cryptocurrencies that do a different job to Bitcoin, have a following and are somewhat independent of Bitcoin's price dynamics. Whether those coins are doing their job well is another question, but it shouldn't be decided with perjorative language like "altcoin".



To say "something's called Bitcoin when x & y happen" is total nonsense. People can, and will, label any object or phenomenon with any name they like, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop that (especially not with childish rules, lol).

Bitcoin is a label, and labels can be either good or bad in connotation. I don't care if the current Bitcoin continues to be called Bitcoin, only that the tech improves to increase everyone's liberty. At some point, it might possibly be useful if Bitcoin became completely rebranded, as the majority of people have a negative impression of Bitcoin as a brand right now.
1995  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-24] Regulatory Uncertainty Pushes BTC Below $8,000, Tom Lee Predicts a on: May 25, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Good thing is that you don't have to care about it. You know how to avoid this system and what level of freedom Bitcoin allows you to have. Let others sink in their own misery. These people will only realize that they are following the wrong path by actually experiencing the consequences of their actions.

Yeah, you're right. With this way of life, so much of what would be natural consequences are avoided. All the stored up irresponsibility will eventually have to spill out, and probably all at once (looks like unprecedented war, more problems with the financial system and increasingly authoritarian government are all on the cards). Hopefully some of these drip-nosed 6 foot tall kids will begin to realise they need to start taking ownership of their own problems (and their lives)
1996  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-23] Vinnik Confessed To Fraudulent Through Cryptocurrency Exchange BTC- on: May 25, 2018, 11:02:14 AM
money launderers

"Money laundering" is not the correct way to put it when it's impossible to stop people using it. Money laundering makes sense as a concept in the banking industry, because a bank is obliged to prevent money in their accounts from being used if suspected of being the proceeds of crime. It's not possible to do that with cryptocurrency, the model is completely different.

Talking about "money launderers" in cryptocurrency is like whipping your car to make it go faster, or shooting pizzas out of trees with a bow and arrow: get over it, those days are gone
1997  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How many Bitcoin Core alternatives do exist? on: May 25, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
Yeah, it would seem the library extends the client with libbitcoin explorer and Bitcoin explorer, which are command line apps.

Well bitcoind is a command line app, but it's still an app and still a client, as it's an executable. If libbitcoin is truly a library, it will be just a bunch of class & header files, with no executables. But I've never used libbitcoin to actually check whether or not it includes an executable.
1998  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-24] Regulatory Uncertainty Pushes BTC Below $8,000, Tom Lee Predicts a on: May 24, 2018, 04:26:10 PM
there are investors who like to risk, but also ones that invest only if they know everything is regulated and that their money is safe.

There's no such thing as a "safe risk", lol


Look, either this is capitalism (where everybody must live by the outcome of their successes and their mistakes), or it's just a free money hyper-inflation system for poor little kiddies who keep falling over and need band-aids for their teeny weeny knees from their dads


What's THE POINT in having markets if everyone expects to get bailed out every time they make a mistake? If someone loses money in an ICO, too bad. There's nothing to stop people launching ICOs, and there's ample warning out there that ICOs are 99.9% scams. Possibly even 100%. If you don't understand what you're doing, and you still make a risky purchase, why should everyone else pay for your mistakes?

Too many people are getting into cryptocurrencies for the wrong reasons, the whole point is that a majority of the supposedly professional finance firms BANKRUPTED THEMSELVES in 2008, then went to the central banks to say "we gambled everyone's deposits away on duds, you're gonna have to print some new money to buy all these garbage assets from us". Irresponsible bail outs (aka "safe" markets) are the antithesis of what Bitcoin & cryptocurrency is supposed to be about.
1999  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How many Bitcoin Core alternatives do exist? on: May 24, 2018, 03:36:03 PM
Bitcoin Knots: This is developed by Luke Dash Jr and has some experimental features that sometimes are added into the Core client: https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin
Libbitcoin: I think this one was founded by Amir Taaki: https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin

I would reconsider these two also.


  • Bitcoin Knots is not a re-implementation AFAIA, just a forked version of the standard Bitcoin client with additional features (no consensus breaking features)
  • Libbitcoin is supposedly just a library, if that's correct then it shouldn't be possible to execute libbitcoin as a client in it's own right

It depends on how specific you want your remit to be.
2000  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-23] Bitcoin Gold Hit by Double Spend Attack, Exchanges Lose Millions on: May 24, 2018, 11:17:08 AM
Altcoins like to claim that Bitcoin is dying and they are the solution, but in reality Bitcoin is thriving while altcoins have huge systematic flaws that will eventually lead to their failure.

There are smaller rivals to Bitcoin where it's a publicly known fact that the hashpower is controlled by 1 miner. Apparently, the only thing that's stopping that miner doing similar 51% attacks is how ethical they are Roll Eyes
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