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2041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Include Or Always Include Gambling In Your New Year's Resolution on: December 04, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
To hell with resolutions, at this time everyone is getting ready to leave the past year behind and start making plans in the coming year to make a change to be better than the previous year. And in fact what they plan is not in accordance with what they do, they promise that they will become a responsible gambler and be able to control themselves over these activities. But unfortunately that only lasted for a short period of time, after which they returned to their original behavior of "gambling recklessly". They really can't appreciate what they have planned before, they are never consistent to do the good habits that they have recorded in a new year's resolution.

A resolution without action and consistency is just nonsense. They are only able to plan, while in practice, the results are zero percent. So in this new year's resolution, if we can't do it consistently then don't ever make too many plans. it's better that a plan is simple, but in its implementation is maximum.
2042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: December 04, 2023, 03:14:38 PM
someone might become a professional gambler, they could take up the profession of playing poker, or other games related to skill. there are many examples of people who have made gambling their profession, but achieving this is not easy because it requires time, experience and luck, so not everyone can and is capable of making gambling a full-time profession.

This is not something that is easy for us to achieve. Because when we are determined to become a professional gambler, maybe we don't know how much time we have to dedicate to doing that, and we don't know how many dollars we have to spend to play gambling. because it is impossible to become a professional gambler that can be obtained in a short time and only in a few times playing gambling. And are we ready for that? I myself am not ready to do that and I prefer to be an ordinary gambler, but still able to control myself over these activities. 

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and i think full time gamblers are those who can manage their money well because even professional gamblers don't want to throw away their other sources of income and focus completely on gambling. they understand that gambling is a risky thing and they need other sources of income to cover their needs or a capital for gambling. and hence these gamblers can rest assured gambling without having to worry about money because they have another source of income running that gives them money.

Of course they have good self-control and money control, because if not then they will never be able to do gambling for a long time. And they know very well that gambling is a risky thing. But thanks to the intelligence and experience he has, a professional gambler is always able to how they continue to increase the win rate and minimize the loss rate. 
2043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 04, 2023, 02:38:52 PM
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I agree with you on a number of things, but also you forget to mentioned that casinos already have a system in olace to make miney laundering a hard thing to achieve in gambling and that way, any attempts will only get the criminal tendency of losing the money due to wagering conditions, because most of the centralized casinos already have a condition on their deposits and witdrwals which make it impossible for money luanderers to use casino as a safe heaven for their criminal activities.
For legal casinos, I'm pretty sure that they implement a system that makes it difficult for some people to launder money. But nowadays, as gambling activities continue to increase and become a popular activity, this has led to the emergence of new casinos, both legal and illegal, so that the activities of each casino become less controlled. And this opportunity is used by intermediaries to trick the institutions that oversee every gambling activity.
But even so, legal casinos are very careful in carrying out money laundering actions because this will threaten the sustainability of the casino place he owns.

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Also in my country, gambling is a legal activity and at that, and we have policies that mandate every deposit to meet some requirements before being withdrawable, so for gamblers, they already know that any deposits must meet such requirements so that is a bad market for money launderers since they may lose the entire deposits in the process of trying to meet the wagering requirements.

Maybe it is a certain step to prevent money laundering by some people who play in these activities. And if this system can be applied in every casino circulating in a number of countries, then at least criminal acts (money laundering) can be resolved.
2044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.
Important games are not to be jeopardize this season. Scenarios are reached and events are watched for entertainment in UEFA Champions League. Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United are no threat for the Bundesliga Giant as they're easily winning matches, no stress. Bayern Munich have qualified for next round but they just have to take things really easy because there are upcoming tough matches which is very important for the club to win. Thomas Tuchel is brilliant, no doubt about that, the things set in place have ginger and boost the performance of the club.
I'm not going to talk about Bayern because they've already qualified but the scenario I'm referring to is the three clubs that still haven't confirmed themselves to qualify.
Currently the situation of the three teams below Bayern they still have a chance depending on the results of the matches that occur in the last match but specifically for Manchester United they are more complicated than Copenhagen and Galatasaray who only have to win the last match to qualify without caring about other clubs.
As for Bayern, they are actually not too strange with the results now because in the matches in the group phase in almost every season they can always win the group so now regardless of what Tuchel's achievements at Bayern they remain in the same position as before.
2045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 01:36:39 PM
Now the advancement is certain alone for Munich but the other three would have to fight in their own final games and still pray that the counterpart teams get a result that'd give them a chance to qualify as well. I don't know how United will face Munich because they're not in form even if they'd be the hosts, Munich are doing exceedingly well and they've not failed to make clubs stay down. Ten Hag has to do the greatest needful and also pray really hard because their destiny isn't in their hands solely.
Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.
2046  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 04, 2023, 01:08:55 PM

I agree with you. I also do not find any weakness in Inter Milan's performance. Inter Milan's defense is very strong. The team conceded only 7 goals in 14 matches in Serie A. Inter Milan currently have the strongest defense in Serie A. At the same time, their attacking players are also able to score a lot of goals. Inter Milan scored 33 goals in 14 matches. Martinez scored 13 goals in 14 matches. Inter Milan players are in a good rhythm. And if they want to win the title, the Inter Milan team will have to continue their performance. Because Juventus is only 2 points ahead of Inter Milan.
Even if it's like that but I think it's still going to be a little hard to guess.
It's a big game and we know what the strengths of both clubs are, although Napoli are still in transition, especially with the change of coach, but in terms of the quality of players they are not inferior to Inter.
Previously Inter also won a draw against Juventus because the difference in their strength is not too far so for this match it could be that the situation is not much different.
Indeed, in terms of performance this season Inter are still quite strong but Napoli also cannot be underestimated even though their situation is not too good for now.
2047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 12:13:53 PM

I think you're wrong, when you say they played well in this game its true because after all with the dominance in the first half before Gallagher  left in the first half cause Red Card they played really well.
In the second half though Brighton were better and dominated but Chelsea defended very well even their counterattacks managed to make Brighton lose concentration which made them have to be punished with a penalty.
It shows Chelsea  performance is quite good even though until the whole match they are still quite bad but in this match Chelsea deserve to be given praise especially for the 3 points they get.  
I don’t agree with this because this Chelsea side has shown a massive improvement than the way they performed last season under low class coach Potter. You can tell from their matches against EPL big 6, this team have really held some big 6 teams to a classy draw and some crazy wins over them, just that there are still some errors to be corrected before they're start doing very well as required.

 Yes, we should know the team is rebuilding and they’ll falter in some matches but that’s part of the process, In the game against Brighton they were pretty playing better till the Red Card incidence which involved a key man in the team’s midfield, that disrupt their play and they struggled of course, but then they still won the 3points which is the most important thing, despite playing with a man down, one of their key players for that matter.
When you talk like that then you should agree with what I said because looking at this match I don't think Chelsea are bad it's just that for the whole they played this season the fact is they are bad Cheesy
I'm still quite objective in my judgment even though I don't like Chelsea because after all they played very well and the 3 points they got were not the result of an easy win because they played against a pretty strong club Brighton as well as with the situation of losing players but they were still able to bring 3 points in this match which proves that they played very well.
It's just that for the whole match they run in this season we also can't say they are good because they are still not stable in performance.
2048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 04, 2023, 11:48:53 AM
It will be really something if Mbappé still stays in the PSG squad. It is time that he should leave. At least if he actually wants to have a great career. Because if he stays in the PSG squad, he is not going to be the great player that he wants to be.
It will be a big surprise if Mbappe decides to stay a longer time in PSG. I think he will be more difficult to leave if he extends his contract. Moreover, if the new contract has a long duration such as 4 years or 5 years. His career may end up at PSG forever, until his age above 30 years old. If it happens, he will miss the chance to have a better career and probably will never join Real Madrid. His dream to win UCL trophy will also never happen because I'm veru doubtful that PSG has the capability to win it.

But on the other hand this will be another stupid decision made by Mbappe if he survives and extends the contract again at PSG.
I know it is very good for finances but if he wants his achievements to be greater than now then PSG is not the right club for him if he expects more achievements.
Moreover, if we look at the drama that previously occurred, it is actually quite ridiculous if Mbappe continues to be at PSG.
PSG is indeed a very good club but only for domestic size, not big competitions so if in the end Mbappe decides to extend the contract again with PSG then we know what the end will be for Mbappe's future.
2049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 04, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
Nothing can stop Leverkusen to win Bundesliga this year and I will keep this bold prediction for the rest of the season. Sure , Bayern looks strong , healthy and always ready to win but Leverkusen looks more like a team than Bayern in my opinion and this will be a huge advantage when they will face each other later.

Also , Stuttgart really wants to catch an European spot for next year and by the way they are playing right now , they can achieve at least a Conference League spot.

The way Leverkusen are playing is really impressive. Today against Dortmund their performance was again really good. There was a dominant game by Leverkusen but they weren't on their good day on one hand. Because despite trying really hard they still couldn't score more than one goal. Even that equalizer came quite late in the game.

I mean Dortmund could have even won here without showing a decent performance. Because I can't say that they were good at all today. But it is normal to see that because of Leverkusen's great system. Especially in away games your job is much more difficult against them.
The dominance is quite good from Leverkusen, it's just that yesterday's match Dortmund also defended quite well.
A situation that forces Dortmund to play tactically and not want to take risks so that when Leverkusen are 1 goal behind, they will play fast and Dortmund cannot do anything but survive in this match.
The match was still too one-sided in yesterday's match but I quite like what Leverkusen showed although not with the results because I expected Leverkusen to bring 3 points in this match.
With this 1 point result Bayern now get the chance to narrow their gap and could even overtake Leverkusen as they have a game in hand where previously the match against Union was delayed.
2050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 04, 2023, 08:40:59 AM

Joao Felix has been brilliant for Barcelona, and his performance against Atletico Madrid is no exception. Xavi has helped him thrive, and his goal-scoring skill has saved Barcelona in important contests. Seeing him succeed elsewhere may hurt Atletico fans, but it shows his quality and versatility. Felix's efforts are crucial given Barcelona's troubles in key matches and loss of possession this season. I find it intriguing that Rapinha contributes without scoring. Finding their rhythm is vital as they try to catch Girona and Real Madrid. Barcelona can prove themselves and continue their rise against Girona. Felix's part in this revival is crucial, and his Atletico status will be funny
What I like about this is that he casually celebrates in front of friends and coaches who throw him away even though he is currently only a loan player from Barcelona.
Joao is one of the better players but his relationship with Simeone which doesn't seem to be very good make him feel like he is being kept away from Atletico and in this match it looks like he wants to release the feelings he feels inside.

The match was actually not very interesting in my opinion because in this match although there were many  chances but only a few were on target because the finishing of each club was poor.
But on the other hand the tension and the game was also quite hard so I still like this match especially there is a situation where Joao and Atletico make the match more interesting.
2051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 08:07:55 AM
Maybe you are right, Chelsea was lucky enough to win because Brighton performed quite well in that match and as usual appeared to be a team that appeared to put pressure on their opponents but this time they were not good enough when it came to finishing so they had to accept defeat, and this was quite a tough match seeing how the referee issued quite a lot of cards.

Manchester City were certainly quite disappointed because they had drawn twice in a row in their home matches and that meant they had to be in third place. Tottenham played quite well and a goal in the final minutes of the match from Dejan Kulusevski saved the three points which almost belonged to the home team and for Tottenham this could be the momentum to recover after three consecutive defeats which made their position even lower.
Liverpool were too engrossed in the attack so that the counterattack by Fulham which was quite on point made them a little overwhelmed because several times Arnold failed to return to his place even though in this match  Arnold also played very well with the brace he created.
On the other hand, i like what happened in this match where they scored really well but it would have been  good if their striker also scored in this match but it couldn't be done.

Manchester City against Tottenham was also a bit troublesome which made them constrained but I think they also played very well in this match and the 1 point was deserved for both.
Its just that with that Arsenal benefited from distancing themselves from Manchester City and Liverpool also began to benefit from the not-so-good results that Manchester City had in the last 3 matches.
2052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: December 03, 2023, 08:27:35 PM
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I can see your point, in theory gambling should be just like any form of entertainment that exists, in which you exchange some of your money for the fun and the excitement that you are looking for, but there are many gamblers out there that are not really pursuing that goal, and when confronted about that fact they try to make it seem as if they were trying to gamble for fun all along, something they know is not true but that can shield them from the criticism of others.

I'm glad that you understand what I'm talking about in the post. So I don't have to explain at length what I meant in the post.


And my simple analogy to gambling, I consider that coming to a casino is like coming to a "theme park." Which is where when you want to try one of these rides, then we have to pay a ticket ticket first. And likewise when we come to a casino, which when we come there we are immediately confronted with various types of gambling games, and before we start the game at the casino, we must make a deposit first to exchange the amount of money we have into a coin that is used as a condition before starting a gambling. And when we consider that gambling is like a "theme park." then make sure that when you come in a state of enthusiasm, then you when you go home you must go home with a happy and joyful state, regardless of losing or winning
2053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 03, 2023, 08:04:18 PM
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I would like to agree with you in this point that there is a big persons of people who are doing this same things. And it can be said that there is no doubt that they are addicted gambler. As we see OP confessing in his own self that he has become an addicted gambler. In fact, when people fall into greed, they cannot see right and wrong with their eyes, they live in the world of the blind and then they do such things. A sane gambler would never gamble on borrowed money. I hope that the OP's situation will make others who do similar things wary.

An incident that has befallen the OP, this is a lesson as well as a reminder for us to be more careful in playing gambling, and not to let gambling activities control our lives, but it is we who must control the gambling activities we do and be able to take responsibility for everything we have done and what we have determined before, namely deciding to enter the world of gambling. And it is never too late to be able to fix everything, if we have already fallen into gambling and often behave badly when doing these activities, then for our own good, we must be able and obliged to control these gambling activities to be better which does not cause considerable and significant losses. Because it is not the gambling that is wrong, but ourselves who are wrong in the assumption and interpretation of gambling, so that in the end we often behave greedily when playing gambling.

Quote "Wise people are those who are not only able to learn from what they experience, but are also able to learn from the experiences of others."
2054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 03, 2023, 07:40:57 PM
Firstly, in my country, gambling is illegal and against the law. And the act of money laundering through a casino, this is fairly new. However, even so, in the country where I live, this kind of mode is often found and this dirty deed is often carried out by a number of regional heads, they do the mode of money laundering through a casino or foreign gambling place, which exchanges the proceeds of crime for casino coins and then the money is exchanged back in cash. And in this way, the results of the money exchange do not become a problem when the money is brought back to their country, because it is considered to come from playing gambling which in some countries, gambling is a legal activity. And in this case of course there are several parties who control the action. and this is where the question becomes, who controls the action? Is it from the casino or not.


I don't know for sure, but I think in this case there is an intermediary who facilitates between the perpetrators of money laundering and a casino that is used as a place to launder the proceeds of crime.
2055  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Ketua KPK tersandung kasus pemerasan on: December 03, 2023, 07:10:04 PM
Sangat disayangkan sekali, Lembaga yang sudah banyak orang percaya ini melakukan hal yang tidak baik seperti ini .Kemana masyarakat harus menitipkan kepercayaan pada lembaga. Banyak lembaga yang bisa diintervensi oleh kekuasaan.

Tapi masyarakat Indonesia tidak boleh mengeluh dengan kenyataan seperti ini, harus bisa menaruh harapan bahwa lembaga yang ada di Indonesia masih ada yang melakukan kejujuran dalam kerjaannya dan demi masyarakat Indonesia.


Sumber; Survei Indikator Politik Atas Kepercayaan Masyarakat Terhadap Lembaga, TNI Masih Memimpin

Dirilis dari salah satu lembaga survei Indonesia atau yang disingkat dengan singkatan LSI, pada perbulan maret sampai april kemarin, menunjukan bahwa KPK menempati posisi ke-6 sebagai lebaga yang paling dipercaya oleh masyarakat dengan tingkat kepercayaan yakni, 72% koma sekian dan Jika kita bandingakan dengan beberapa tahun kebelakang, tentunya ini adalah sebuah prestasi bagi lembaga KPK karena mereka berhasil meningkatkan tingkat kepercayaan masyarakat terhadap lembaga tersebut. karen pada tahun 2022 lalu tingkat kepercayaan masyarakat pada lembaga KPK hanyalah 54%. 

Pada mulanya masyarakat itu percaya akan semua lembaga negara dan sebuah keadilan, namun bodohnya orang-orang yang terdapat dilembaga tersebut, mereka tidak mampu memegang teguh kepercayaan tersebut dan lebih bodohnya lagi, mereka mencederai lembaga tempat ia bekerja dengan melakukan hal bodoh yang dimana mereka melanggar sebuah aturan yang telah dibuat oleh dirinya sendiri.
Dan dengan terjeratnya Ketua KPK (Firli Bahruli) sebagai tersangka kasus pemerasan SYL, tentunya ini adalah sebuah mimpi buruk bagi lembaga tersebut karena dengan terjadi kasus ini, maka tingkat kepercayaan masyarakat terhadap lembaga tersebut akan kembali berkurang.
2056  Economy / Economics / Re: How to be more effective working remotely. on: December 03, 2023, 06:14:37 PM
Of course, the key to successful remote work is good communication and all team members know what to do, most problems occur because there is no good communication, besides that the head of department must understand the job description and be able to provide solutions if problems occur.
Basically, working together well/compact, I admit, is the best thing of all time, because all work is done carefully and really understands the situation and conditions within the team.

In a work team, besides we also have to be able to work well together, but in a team we are also required to "together-together, work". because in fact in a work group it often happens that when there is a job, it often happens that the work group only relies on a few people in the process, while several other people do not contribute to the work. And one of the causes, sometimes in a work group there is still such a thing as seniority, where when people who have been longer in the company or who are often called seniors, when they get assignments from their superiors, they often delegate these tasks to their juniors or people who have just joined the work group. Which of course will only cause problems and cause disharmony in a work group, so that cohesiveness in the work group cannot be created.
2057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 04:42:09 PM
Chelsea is only leading in goals in the first half, not dominating the first half based on performance. Brighton played much better and organized than them. If Chelsea didn't change their playing strategy in the second half, they should consider the match a lost match for them.
I didn't see the Chelsea team performing much better than the previous lost match to Newcastle. I forgot to mention, Chelsea is playing with one man down(playing with 10 players). There is a high probability that the match will end in a draw or a win for Brighton. The second half is in play now

I actually doubt if those saying Chelsea is playing good are watching the match or not. There's absolutely nothing good about Chelsea performance both in the first half and this second half. They are just lucky to have a goals and will hopefully win the game since they are leading 3 to 1. After all, it's goal that matters but honestly Chelsea are not ready to change the story for good with this type of display. No accuracy in passing distribution and no single team work. Thiago silva is not at his best today and the impact is very obvious at the back. The earlier Chelsea part with Disasi, the better for them because dude is not adding value at all.
I think you're wrong, when you say they played well in this game its true because after all with the dominance in the first half before Gallagher  left in the first half cause Red Card they played really well.
In the second half though Brighton were better and dominated but Chelsea defended very well even their counterattacks managed to make Brighton lose concentration which made them have to be punished with a penalty.
It shows Chelsea  performance is quite good even though until the whole match they are still quite bad but in this match Chelsea deserve to be given praise especially for the 3 points they get.  
2058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 03, 2023, 04:22:52 PM
It seems quite appropriate now to say whether Nice have started to falter towards the middle of this season.
After a very good start to the season at the moment Nice's changes are quite pronounced in terms of performance. Their goal productivity is slowly disappearing and their attacking line is starting to show cracks.
Yesterday's match also showed how their condition has changed. They are still very good in terms of domination, it's just that their finishing is still very lacking and losing to Nantes yesterday makes me feel they will experience a change in situation now if they cannot overcome their current consistency.

Nice are still good and after this round they are guaranteed to retain second position. The problem is that in Ligue 1 there is PSG and, as always, they came out on top. It is quite remarkable that just recently they were behind, and now their advantage is 4 points, which allows them to even lose and still remain in the lead. I don’t see any point in assessing any Ligue 1 club relative to PSG - they’re on a different level. At their level, Nice shows excellent results, they have only one defeat and have the best defense in the league - only 5 goals conceded.
The draw against Montpellier and the loss to Nantes actually in my opinion can be an unfavorable situation and I can make them a little shaky.
Overall, Nice is still doing well and it reminds us of Lens last season of course it's just that with the situation that happened in the last 5 matches they actually ran a little semi slightly decreased  and this cannot be allowed if indeed their hopes are the top 4 or hope in the top 2 (Champions League Zone).  Their points are getting further away from PSG now and dont forget that they are also still not safe from the pursuit of Monaco who are still sticking below. 
2059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 03, 2023, 12:48:03 PM
Nothing can stop Leverkusen to win Bundesliga this year and I will keep this bold prediction for the rest of the season. Sure , Bayern looks strong , healthy and always ready to win but Leverkusen looks more like a team than Bayern in my opinion and this will be a huge advantage when they will face each other later.

Also , Stuttgart really wants to catch an European spot for next year and by the way they are playing right now , they can achieve at least a Conference League spot.
Regardless of what is happening right now I think it's still a little difficult for Leverkusen if their target is the Bundesliga champions but with the current conditions especially if the situation lasts until the end of the season in consistency then indeed the possibility of them being a candidate is just that they will still only trouble Bayern not to become Bundesliga champions.

I know that Leverkusen's current performance is good, it's just that in terms of conditions, Bayern is still an unchangeable favorite, especially with the hegemony they always create in every season they always run, so indeed Bayern remains the main favorite to win the Bundesliga.
2060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 03, 2023, 10:15:49 AM
After losing against Barcelona, this made Porto have to fight even harder until the final round before they could ensure they qualified for the round of 16. However, their opponents in the remaining matches are Shakhtar, who also have 9 points. In the first round, Porto managed to beat Shakhtar with a score of 1-3 and they did it while away to Shakhtar's headquarters. This time it's Porto's turn to host Shakhtar and it looks like Porto's advantage will multiply because they get direct support from fans. I feel this will be an all-out match between the two teams and whoever loses will be eliminated and have to go down to the European league.

Yes indeed and at least, Porto also has an unbeaten head to head record when Porto plays against Shakhtar in the Champion League. Moreover, at this moment also at least Porto is still the favorite team to win based on the current odds. With factors like that, on paper Porto should be able to beat Shakhtar in the last match of this group stage. But even so, because Porto and Shakhtar have the same points with 9 points, then of course Shakhtar will also try even better to be able to win in this match. Because anyway, if for example this match ends with a draw score, then of course Porto will still qualify because Porto wins aggressiveness of goals.
However, this is the last chance for Porto and Shakhtar to qualify for the last 16 and indeed only one of them was chosen to accompany Barcelona. It will certainly not be easy for Shakhtar to fight for opportunities in the away match to Porto headquarters and the fans will definitely put all the pressure on Shakhtar's players so that they feel frustrated.

Betting on Porto makes the most sense but I wouldn't do that because Shakhtar also have the same chance of winning. So if we place a bet on this match, of course the safe and easy option is BTTS (Yes) or the result over 2.5 because there will definitely be lots of goals scored. At least there will be more than 3 goals and a narrow win like 2-3 or 3-2 for one of the teams is also still a possibility.
Even now it can be said that this match is important for Porto and Shakhtar but when it comes to probabilities at the moment Porto is much more favorite.
The current situation that occurs is that Porto is most likely the one who qualifies for the next round.
Some conditions can strengthen this such as those who play home and with full support of fans, besides that the first leg at Shakhtar also it can be used as a reference in this match.
Although this will still be a
very difficult to predict but I think the biggest chance is still in Porto now.
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