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20801  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) on: December 26, 2018, 04:03:22 PM
You may add this new way of recovering accounts- Recovering hacked/lost accounts
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20802  Other / Meta / Re: Can we regulate the trust system ? on: December 26, 2018, 03:48:47 PM
I think this is too limited. If you have to wait for a DT-member to be scammed before a scammer can be tagged, many innocent Newbies will be scammed too, while doing a small deal to work on a long con doesn't mean someone can be trusted either.
As an example, look at the red trust I left. Before I was on DT, it was mainly for users who cheated my giveaways, or (the first one) a non-paying faucet). After I was put on DT (around March this year), I've tagged a couple dozen users, and none of them scammed me. Since scams aren't moderated, DT is the only protection this forum has.

Maybe i failed to give a proper explanation. the point here is not that a DT member himself has to be scammed, the accusation it self has to be based on a scam action. so if a newbie gets scammed by xyz  and you tag that xyz member for scamming, it is a very valid tag. this goes for all trading related matters, call it scam/cheat/ponzi/rip-off it does not matter. as long as it's not " this guy is stupid/troll , so i gave him a negative trust because i can".
This is still missing the point. I'll give an example: I tagged Boplewww for posting this. As far as I know, nobody got scammed by this user. I don't think anybody would doubt this tag, it's just an example of what I consider more useful than waiting for an actual scam to happen.

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i discused this with suchmoon but i will explain it again,  the trust custom lists is only good for my own use, it does not reflect how other members view my profile. since you are a DT member then you are on everybody's list by default, if you were to tag me now, even if i would exclude you from my list, everyone else by default will see your tag on my profile.
so the trust custom list does not serve any propose on this matter.
Correct. And that's kinda the point: if a scammer gets tagged, he shouldn't have a say in who gets to see his tag.

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even if we are never going to have any rules, i hope that the reasonable DT members will stand against those irrational tags when they see them. like that DT member who stood up for cryptohunter when he was given a red tag for being a "troll" and gave cryptohunter a positive one
The red tag was countered by actmyname. It was considered by others too, see this example:
LOL, ok that solves my dilemma of whether I should add a counter rating for you. I don't know what else I can do for you when you're so belligerent.

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~it was sad to see only a few DTs disagreed to that and actually only 1 took an action while a few others supported that irrational feedback.
Isn't it obvious DT won't always agree? There are clear red and clear green cases, but in between there's going to be differences of opinion at some level.
20803  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Drownhim.com P⃢R⃢O⃢M⃢O⃢T⃢E⃢ A⃢N⃢D⃢ P⃢L⃢A⃢Y⃢ 250 Bits Giveaway on: December 26, 2018, 03:27:36 PM
How can i check how many rounds did i play in total?
Right-click your guy's name while he's climbing.
Your current number:
Code:
Total Rounds Played:	11
This number was reset for all users at the start of this giveaway.
20804  Economy / Reputation / Should I remove my red tag on bountyhunters.io? DT please discuss on: December 26, 2018, 03:11:55 PM
Based on the evidence provided in Bountyhunters.io probably will scam their members. Watch out!!!, I tagged bountyhunters.io on November 13:
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Asks users for their "Private Key or Mnemonics" to claim bounty tokens. NEVER GIVE YOUR PRIVATE KEY TO ANYONE!
See Reference link or https://archive.is/5WICa

Today, I received a PM asking to remove the red trust. This is the only tag I've always wondered about when I would receive a PM asking to remove it. I'm willing to remove it, but I'd like to hear some community input first.

Short version: bountyhunters.io was asking users to provide their private key or mnemonics before giving them their bounty payment in Tokens. The fact that they asked for private keys in order to be paid is very shady at least, and a potential exit scam at worst. They seem to offer other options now to be paid (in Tokens). I don't use their platform myself.

I'd appreciate it if someone (or a few people) can take the time to give their opinion on this.
20805  Other / Meta / Re: Can we regulate the trust system ? on: December 26, 2018, 02:56:44 PM
First: in general, most of the users who complain about the trust system, are the ones who got tagged. I agree with the large majority of all red DT-tags.
You're talking about the few that are debated. In general, I think the DT system serves a purpose, and some "collateral damage" can't be avoided.

I think every  DT member uses the trust system they way they "see fit"
This goes for all users, not only DT.

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you can clearly see in a few cases where DT memebers disagree to one another decision and counter it by giving a positive feedback.
For a while I thought it's a bad thing that DT can't agree on tags, but then I realized it's actually a good thing. It proves DT is not a "gang", but it are individual users with an individual opinion.

There's another thing that got me thinking: the amount of DT-trust is largely based on being a "high profile" user, and not on the amount scammed.
Example: alia is at -2048, but BITMIXCOIN.IO is "only" at -64 after scamming more than 16 BTC.

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I personally do not think it is right to give a negative feedback for someone that is not a scammer no matter how much of an a**hole they are, this goes also for giving a positive feedback for someone just because you like them or because they have been "helpful".
I'd say it depends on the situation. I've received some positive trust for being helpful. I don't think that's "worse" than someone who receives positive trust  after a few small trades with DT-members. In fact, it took me many years to get this (and I appreciate the appreciation), while it's quite easy to gain trust by doing a few trades.

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This is a very important matter as a feedback from a DT member could be a "life changer" for someone who spent years building a good reputation only to get tagged for disagreeing to some DT member's point of view.
Although I agree with this, I can also see why some users tag them anyway.

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here is what i think the trust system is meant to be used for

1- positive > you had a successful trade/trades with this guy, you send them money first, they kept their end of the deal and sent the goods > trustful.
2- negative >  this person scammed you , by either not sending you the money/goods he promised to, or they arrived in bad shape > can't be trusted
I think this is too limited. If you have to wait for a DT-member to be scammed before a scammer can be tagged, many innocent Newbies will be scammed too, while doing a small deal to work on a long con doesn't mean someone can be trusted either.
As an example, look at the red trust I left. Before I was on DT, it was mainly for users who cheated my giveaways, or (the first one) a non-paying faucet). After I was put on DT (around March this year), I've tagged a couple dozen users, and none of them scammed me. Since scams aren't moderated, DT is the only protection this forum has.


If you don't like the trust system, set your own trust list. I still haven't done it, because I prefer to see users as most people see them. But feel free to start promoting custom trust lists, if enough people agree, DT will become less powerful.


How about opening a board opened to only DT members, or also staff members. And when a member is considering tagging a members (positive or negative), the issue is brought to the board and the entire active DT members can brainstorm and decide if it's what leaving a feedback.
I've tagged several spamming scammers while waiting for them to be nuked. Spam relies on large numbers, and without a quick warning, they will eventually make victims. Delaying those warnings doesn't do the community any good.

If it is going to be "regulated" (which I doubt it is going to happen any time soon), any tag without a reference should be concidered as neutral even if it comes from a DT member or simply any tag must come with reference..
I've only received positive DT-trust without reference link, and about half my "untrusted" feedback doesn't have a link either. Basically, those are opinions, and it's up to the reader to decide whether or not he trusts the source.
I try to always (exception: the very first feedback I left) create a reference link.

~ it need to be make sure that a single DT rating should not impact an individual.
I would agree, if this is only valid for high-ranking accounts. A Newbie scammer should be red at first tag because he can and probably will just create another account, a Legendary has much more to lose.
20806  Other / Meta / Re: Is the Default trust system still working/active? on: December 26, 2018, 11:03:06 AM
I'm starting to have a big number of feedback sent, does it have a limit in numbers?
If I remember correctly, there used to be problems loading the trust page if it was too big. That's why the trust page no longer shows the status of the tagged/tagging user.
20807  Economy / Reputation / Re: A boycott of replies to the recent extensive trolling by cryptohunter on: December 24, 2018, 11:01:57 PM
I had actually considered a new tag along with Marboroza just due to his toxic attitude when engaging in a conversation with him. It's totally a you're either with me or against me attitude and makes him pure shit to deal with on a professional level. The only reason he has avoided a tag from me this far is I do not believe in tagging a user for having a different opinion than mine.
I've started making my custom trust list because of this:
Code:
~cryptohunter
DefaultTrust
He's now excluded on DT3. Even though he hasn't left any trust, I believe this is the right way to treat a user with such a flawed judgement. I didn't tag him for the same reason:
I get the feeling he wants to get tagged by DT, so he can claim how unfair it is. Well, tough luck, I don't tag users for plagiarism, I don't tag them for being idiots, and I don't tag them for being trolls.

I did put his alt Chosen Username on ignore too.
20808  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: 2 vragen en een opmerking on: December 24, 2018, 10:48:25 PM
Maar nu zijn mijn vragen of het voordeliger is als ik altijd laat betalen naar een vast btc adres of
dat ik ook wisselende adressen kan gebruiken?
Dit ivm het aantal inputs en het spenden daarvan.
Voor de fees maakt het niet uit, voor de privacy (ook van de klant) is het beter om voor elke transactie een nieuw adres te gebruiken. Voor lagere fees helpt het wel om SegWit te gebruiken. Er zijn 2 opties: adressen beginnend met bc1 geven de laagste fee, adressen beginnend met 3 zijn volledig compatible met alle wallets.

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Mijn klant betaald een opslag van 50 satoshi per betaling voor de netwerk kosten.
Dat is zelfs met de laagst mogelijke fees te weinig voor een transactie. Het is ruim minder dan een cent, als je het niet wil verhogen kan je het net zo goed weglaten.

Bedankt voor je antwoorden, maar ik heb er voor gekozen om alle transacties op te slaan op een paperwallet waarvan de
privare key beveiligd is met een stevig wachtwoord.
Zolang je het wachtwoord niet vergeet zit je met BIP38 goed. Brute-forcen is zo goed als onmogelijk.

Fees zijn nu laag, maar dat was niet altijd zo en zal ook niet eeuwig zo blijven. Zie Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs!
Als je doorgaat met 15 transacties per 2 weken te ontvangen, is het aan te raden om af en toe al je "kleingeld" samen te voegen, bijvoorbeeld door het naar een nieuwe paperwallet te versturen. Een jaar geleden waren fees van $25 per input heel normaal, dat moet je zien te voorkomen.
20809  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [SELLING] FULL MEMBER ACCOUNT - BEST PRICE on: December 24, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
I am selling Full Member account with Neutral Trust:

~                    
Price: $120
All posts were made in English only, mainly in Altcoin Discussion and Announcements (Altcoins). You can make a purchase using escrow services if you want. For more information send a private message or contact me on Telegram: t.me/Hartisinle.
Archived!
Based on your screenshot (which I can't archive Archived) you're trying to sell omedian.
20810  Economy / Lending / Re: Offering upto 0.05 btc to Sr Member+ Trusted only on: December 24, 2018, 06:38:51 PM
If you re read the post carefully u can see it was non collateral loan for trusted members.
Why not improve your business and increase your trustworthiness by signing a message from a funded address?
20811  Economy / Services / Re: Pretty Addy Giveaway - part 2 on: December 24, 2018, 06:33:45 PM
Public Key:
049134EE8685ACCB32DA8A24A4681FA0DCAC3FE037507D8672858EA9AB83890CD51EA7BFFC6B22A 3A6A0CEC20A52F69D84D7557F9F7038EE6EE8314988E2B2FF50

Prefix: 1brt
Here you go:
Address: 1brt1reqPVJML2wALbjpsW6Bfmb885wxh
PrivkeyPart: 5JketsQgPjFqxLYszoPmkhCGjuVu9WfQUHsGuZ38DJyWJdUA42V (Balance: Loading balance...)
20812  Economy / Gambling / Re: 20 Bitcoin Christmas Giveaway at BetKing.io on: December 24, 2018, 05:07:08 PM
We had a ddos attack which was causing some login troubles
Should be ok now
I can confirm it works again Smiley
20813  Other / Meta / Re: Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 05:03:34 PM
maybe the airdropped merits should have been given in a better form. take a look at this guy for insanse > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=957841 . got 100 merit airdropped with only 12 posts.
The airdrop was based on the user's rank at that moment. To receive 100 Merit, that user must have had a Full Member rank. He deranked by deleting his posts.

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ya i have no clue why i ended up posting the abnormal and weird accounts
That happens when you sort all accounts based on extremes.

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i have no clue how to get the earned merits only as it's not on piggy's db, are you using some script to pull the data or someone has another db for it?
I've created this list, which shows how many Merit points each user has received after the airdrop.

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i will be ignoring fixed numbers such 100,250,500,1000 which i believe those represent the airdroped merit. but that still will require some manual work.
That's not enough: someone with 260 Merit has most likely received 250 from the airdrop too.

Good luck!
20814  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: December 24, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
It's just discouraging to not only for my effort to go un-merited, but to also see many random posts getting highly merited (like the one I've mentioned here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg48484477#msg48484477)
You're probably better off not comparing yourself to obvious merit abuse.

If I interpret this post from theymos slightly out of context:
~ if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
You're not a spammer, you engage in decent conversation, and you use the forum as a forum instead of an ATM. I think you deserve the Merit needed to rank up.

I'm posting this here as a reference in case someone wonders/questions why I went on a meriting spree Smiley
Note: sending Merit doesn't necessarily mean I agree with a post.
20815  Economy / Gambling / Re: 20 Bitcoin Christmas Giveaway at BetKing.io on: December 24, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
I'll move this to this thread:
Play and win now at https://BetKing.io
Is there a reason the Login button doesn't work anymore? I've tried 2 different browsers.
You can try clearing cookies and browser history. Make sure javascript is enabled.

In future please post in the main thread with support questions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023833.0
I've tried the site in a private browser, which means no cookies and browser history. And yet, it's not working.
It used to work fine, with auto-login, up to the last time I've opened the site a few days ago.
20816  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★★★ TRUE FLIP 🐬 DICE, SCRATCH, SLOTS, LOTTERY 🎄🎄🎄 X-MAS GIFTS!!! 🎄🎄🎄 on: December 24, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
Today is the last draw before Christmas!
Get in the game FOR FREE and win 0.01 BTC![/font]
That's confusing Tongue Does that mean new entries will be for the draw on next Friday? If so, here's mine, the same numbers again:
40, 41, 42, 43, 44

I've received my giftcard for 0.0025 BTC, and already lost half of it Tongue Thanks Smiley
20817  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - 20% Rakeback Christmas Bonus - Most trusted Bitcoin Dice site on: December 24, 2018, 02:39:44 PM
Play and win now at https://BetKing.io
Is there a reason the Login button doesn't work anymore? I've tried 2 different browsers.
20818  Economy / Speculation / Re: NEW BAKKT game on: December 24, 2018, 01:55:38 PM
Lol, when you think about it Loyce has an infinitely large win interval. If bitcoin is worth any number between 30k - ∞ he wins
Actually, it's $27984 and up. Crazy-igzo got right at the middle between bitebits and me.
I bet micgoossens would gladly give me a Lambo full college fund Cheesy
I wasn't just "asking" for the dollar value of 1 Bitcoin at the time I made my prediction:
winner with the closest price wil earn 0.115 BTC
Since I'm still wearing my hat, I'm going to be greedy ballsy: I want the current dollar value of 1 Bitcoin as a prize Cheesy
That's $3524.25 on Bitcoinaverage (I couldn't archive it). So I value 0.115 BTC at $3524.25, making my prediction $30,645.65. This is going straight into my kids' college funds Cheesy
20819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Best Way to send bitcoin using Privatekey [PHP or SHELL] on: December 24, 2018, 01:29:17 PM
simple small script

Electrum like solution to send
I haven't tested it, but have you lookd at Electrum command line options? I was amazed with this feature a while ago. It may be worth checking if it can do what you need.
20820  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: December 24, 2018, 10:30:01 AM
Update:
  • In the first week after the announcement, 286408 posts were made (-19.05%).
  • In the second week after the announcement, 280503 posts were made (-20.72%).
  • In the third week after the announcement, 259694 posts were made (-26.60%).
  • In the fourth week after the announcement, 263685 posts were made (-25.47%).
  • In the fifth week after the announcement, 240339 posts were made (-32.07%).
  • In the sixth week after the announcement, 240045 posts were made (-32.15%).
  • In the seventh week after the announcement, 219689 posts were made (-37.91%).
  • In the eighth week after the announcement, 217774 posts were made (-38.45%).
  • In the nineth week after the announcement, 215135 posts were made (-39.20%).
  • In the tenth week after the announcement, 199486 posts were made (-43.62%).
  • In the eleventh week after the announcement, 177677 posts were made (-49.78%).
  • In the twelfth week after the announcement, 159331 posts were made (-54.97%).
  • In the thirteenth week after the announcement, 144981 posts were made (-59.02%).
  • In the fourteenth week after the announcement, 139691 posts were made (-60,52%).

The number of posts is still dropping, but less fast. I'm curious to see if it goes up again once crypto keeps recovering as it did in the past week.
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