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lol, but not possible, difference connectors, and hard disks don't just explode into shrapnel no matter how much power you fed it.
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it does look the mobo is bad, especially if you have swapped all other components already. Get a RMA for the mobo
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its easy to get more then 1 rebate. Ask for separate receipts. I was able to get 4 rebates and just filled out family members address' near me...
"easy" only if you have that many address available to you, and willing to risk rebate being denied. Also the customer would need more than 4, since he bought more than that. |
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Posting to confirm that I received my cards safely and quickly. This was an excellent transaction. Thanks again, sir.  Posting to say this is not a good deal. Just order 6870's at 185 with a 20 dollar rebate. 165.00 and you have the backing of newegg. plus you get a game code you can sell for 20 bucks on ebay. And they run much smoother than 5830's. Mine hit 310mhps with not bios mods. but of course i modded anyway to lower the memory speed. not to burst anyones bubble just think we should be helping new miners. Rebate is limit 1 per household, and it is $169.99 after rebate. This customer that just posted bought a lot more than 1 from me. 5830 can also get 310 mhps easily. So unless you plan on just buying one card to mine, buying multiple 5830 for $160 from me, is a much better deal than buying the 6870 for $189.99 (without rebate). |
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I'm not sure why people are still using the one man hobby operation known as mtgox, when the clearly superior tradehill.com is available. FYI mtgox answers your support message after about a week. Tradehill answers them almost instantly. |
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Not sure if this is relevant, but I've noticed that TradeHill does not automatically log you out after a period of inactivity. I noticed that one morning when I hopped on my computer, I did not have to log in - I was still logged in from the night before.
The fact that tradehill doesn't log you out has no impact on your security, IF tradehill properly implemented security measures to prevent CSRF |
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Miners can't create demand, miners can only create supply. You are asking bitcoin users to subsidize miner's unrealistic profit expectations. No, actually that's wrong. The main factor in determining the pricing of a commodity (such as oil/gold), is DEMAND, NOT difficulty to mine (though difficulty to mine may establish a pricing floor for the commodity, as anything below the floor will just make mining unprofitable and mining would cease). Platinum is 40 times more scarce than gold and as a result 40 times harder to mine, but its price is just slightly more than gold. Why? Because it doesn't have 40X DEMAND. At the current difficulty, the pricing floor for bitcoin is around $2-$3 (cover electricity and a tiny profit) with a paid off rig. and let's not forget there are tons of bored people with idle GPU that would mine just for fun, even with negative profit. Here's the way I see things. What happens when it becomes more difficult to mine stuff in the physical world? What happens when oil is harder to find? The price goes up.
The difficulty just went up a lot. The price was around $20 for a while. Now since it's harder to mine, I value my coins at a higher rate than $20 per coin. I wouldn't sell a coin for less than $25 now. But that's just me. It'll take an entire community of like minded people to make that happen. Either way, if bitcoins fall low, I'm going to buy them at their low price. No matter what, I know I'm winning. Prices went low? Fine. I'll buy some coins before they go back up. Prices set new record high? Good. That's a very potential future value for them that I can base some estimates on. If it goes up too high and I know it's too high, I might sell some coins before the speculation bubble bursts and buy again after. Don't worry, guys. Just play it smart. Don't take too much risk but don't be too cautious either and you'll make a few bucks. Don't worry about people panicking or hoarding. You can take advantage of both situations.
I'm not disagreeing with this. That's why I said "But that's just me. It'll take an entire community of like minded people to make that happen." ie: everyone else's demand matches mine |
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I think it's because all these super computers with thousands of GPUs are all using NVIDIA GPUs, if they had used AMD/ATI GPUs, they'd probably easily beat the bitcoin network's computing power.
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No, actually that's wrong. The main factor in determining the pricing of a commodity (such as oil/gold), is DEMAND, NOT difficulty to mine (though difficulty to mine may establish a pricing floor for the commodity, as anything below the floor will just make mining unprofitable and mining would cease). Platinum is 40 times more scarce than gold and as a result 40 times harder to mine, but its price is just slightly more than gold. Why? Because it doesn't have 40X DEMAND. At the current difficulty, the pricing floor for bitcoin is around $2-$3 (cover electricity and a tiny profit) with a paid off rig. and let's not forget there are tons of bored people with idle GPU that would mine just for fun, even with negative profit. Here's the way I see things. What happens when it becomes more difficult to mine stuff in the physical world? What happens when oil is harder to find? The price goes up.
The difficulty just went up a lot. The price was around $20 for a while. Now since it's harder to mine, I value my coins at a higher rate than $20 per coin. I wouldn't sell a coin for less than $25 now. But that's just me. It'll take an entire community of like minded people to make that happen. Either way, if bitcoins fall low, I'm going to buy them at their low price. No matter what, I know I'm winning. Prices went low? Fine. I'll buy some coins before they go back up. Prices set new record high? Good. That's a very potential future value for them that I can base some estimates on. If it goes up too high and I know it's too high, I might sell some coins before the speculation bubble bursts and buy again after. Don't worry, guys. Just play it smart. Don't take too much risk but don't be too cautious either and you'll make a few bucks. Don't worry about people panicking or hoarding. You can take advantage of both situations.
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Difficulty does not determine price, as shown by recent events, (diff increased from 500k to 800k, price went from $19 to $13) Difficulty is a lagging indicator of price, meaning price move FIRST, and then difficulty follows. The move from 500k to 800k, and even to 1.2M is the result of the price skyrocketing to $30 earlier this month. If price keep going down from now on, difficulty will soon start decreasing due to no new miners putting rigs up online, and existing miners deciding to sell their equipment. My (somewhat flawed) model shows that in 6 difficulties coins are going to be incredibly hard to come buy for average miners.
I plan to wait until 6 difficulties from now to see what the market is doing.
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what are you talking about?
From bitcoinwatch:
Blocks last 24h 187
Blocks avg. per hour 7.79
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lol nice observation, so what happens at negative value? When I buy BTC, the seller has to give me the BTC for free + some cashback?
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These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?
-SNIP- I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...) The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire? Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it MSI seems to have a feature when pressing the "Settings" button that allows you to "Synchronize setting for similar graphics processors". My issue is that I am working with multiple type GPUs in one rig and need to OC/change the settings for the 2nd GPU or 3rd GPU if I decide to go crazy with an extender cable to bring out the PCI-E x1 slot. Not sure if I want to go down that road yet for the 3rd. I'm trying to see how much savings I would have just running multiple rigs vs. trying to pack more GPU then two on 1 motherboard. Stability and cooling comes into play, and having to get 1000 Watt power supplies. I guess I'm just old school and like my systems in closed cases with mega fans for air flow. As long as I keep them under 75 to 78 degrees, I think I'm good. So any OC'ers out there know of this magical tool we seek?  What the hell are you talking about? with MSI afterburner you can easily select exactly which GPU you want to adjust, from the settings menu. There's no need to use "synchronize settings for similar gpu". |
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I keep them just below 75C. I try to have the gpu fan RPM as low as possible. Because at 75C, the GPU will last at least 5 years if not more, but GPU fans are likely to fail very fast if you keep it on 100%, the bearings will wear out in at most 2 years.
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how are you going to power the 8 GPU? as that would require a 2000W+ PSU, are you going to combine PSU?
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bandwidth is a non issue, as long as you can plug in the card to the mobo, even via adapter, you are good to go. Very tiny amount of data travel from the card to the mobo, most of the heavy lifting is done directly on the card.
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yes, the mid mounted fan is ugly, I like the sapphire 6970
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Thanks again, everyone. GREAT info. I think I'm going to get a Kill-A-Watt PS-10 ( http://www.p3international.com/products/consumer/p4330.html) and just keeping plugging in rigs until things start to look dicey. Of course... non of this really matters because I STILL CAN'T GET THE FREAKING THING TO BOOT!!!! Seriously - I'm at wit's end. I don't HAVE any BTCs to donate to anyone (Catch-22), but I can either promise you some (if you trust me - and yes, you can), or I can PayPal $$ to anyone who can get this damned thing up and running. Every day that it's down is BTCs down the drain. I am sooooo pissed.  two common mistakes I make that makes the system not booting are: 1. RAM is loose 2. mixing up 12v rails, so that one card isn't getting enough power. Just try booting with 1 video card first. |
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Use 7-zip is easiest, AES-256 encryption
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Tradehill has no doubt emulated some aspects of mtgox's design, which I think was to give the users a sense of familiarity. But to accuse them of "copying" the design, is simply ridiculous. Similarity in terms of functionality and appearance between TH and mtgox is about 20% at most.
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