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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: User Luke-Jr claims Litecoin is a "quick pump and dump scheme" on Wikipedia on: April 30, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
Luke Jr holds over 1000 LTC      No joke Grin  (gave them to him myself)


and he cashed out into btc right after that,

no, they never moved.

He said on IRC now that he's keeping the LTC to "keep them out of circulation", after I asked him if I can have his "worthless" 1337 litecoins


No, Ask him to public destroy them by sending to an impossible LTC address.
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ozco.in's unlucky LTC pool on: April 30, 2013, 02:20:46 PM
So I'm on ozcoin's litecoin mining pool. From what I understand, ltc blocks are found every 2.5 minutes and there will be 4 times more of them than btc.

So I'm really not grasping the idea as to why ozcoin's litecoin pool is often hung up on a block for 10+ hours. Is the pool just that unlucky right now?

Ozcoin's ltc pool has big problems, it's unrealistically unlucky (last time I checked, it had a luck of 130%, meaning it spends 130% of the expected average block time to find a block). The pool operator's focus is on his BTC pool, the LTC pool is neglected I'm afraid. You'd do better to mine on a focused LTC pool such as wemineltc.com or give-me-ltc.com
1283  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's impossible for EVERYONE to benefit on: April 30, 2013, 01:43:03 PM
Only if you see Bitcoin as a zero sum game like forex, which it is not. Bitcoin is more like a real world economy, when the economy expands/grows, everyone benefits.
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: User Luke-Jr claims Litecoin is a "quick pump and dump scheme" on Wikipedia on: April 30, 2013, 01:25:14 PM
On wikipedia's discussion page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Litecoin#Should_a_pump_and_dump_scheme_really_get_a_wikipedia_page.3F

He's spreading lies about litecoin all over the internet, calling it a scam.

If you want to know why he does it, connect the dots:

http://mineforeman.com/2013/04/02/luke-jr-shows-off-the-first-butterly-labs-asic-bitcoin-miner/
Luke-jr may be wrong on Litecoins but you should all respect him and not badmouth him (Radacoin). Have you read the #bitcoin-dev log from the March 11/March 12 hardfork event?? Luke-jr was the guy taking the lead on the solution. He is the reason that you are still wealthy if any of you were smart enough to buy BTC at low prices! A thank you would be in order.

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/03/12

Why would Litecoin holders thank him? if anything he kept Litecoin from taking over, when Bitcoin hardforked. If the Bitcoin hardfork fiasco lasted a lot longer, Litecoin would have a chance to become the dominant currency.
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is scrypt better than shaXXX?? on: April 30, 2013, 03:13:20 AM
With 10M he can just design an ASIC and produce the chips....

Yes, he could, but we don't know if a scrypt ASIC have any major advantage over GPU? what we do know is a scrypt ASIC must have tons of memory, just like a GPU, and also it would use much more power than SHAxxx, because you have to power all that memory.
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is scrypt better than shaXXX?? on: April 30, 2013, 03:01:01 AM

No, ASIC is a vulnerability, addressed by the scrypt algorithm. GPU is a much better hardware of choice to be based on for decentralization. ASIC can be cheaply mass manufactured by a well funded attacker, while GPU can not, to get massive amount of GPU, you have to compete with the general gamer market, it is extremely difficult to obtain a meaningful amount of GPU to attack the network.

Yes ASIC can also be made for scrypt, but due to the memory intensive traits of the algorithm, the scrypt ASIC will be a lot more expensive than the SHAXXX version, and also power usage will also be higher. The advantage of ASIC over GPU will be a lot smaller in scrypt mining.

A well funded attacker wouldn't have a problem acquiring vast amounts of GPUs either.

Scrypt is neither better nor worse than SHA 256. They're just different hashing algorithms.


They would have a problem, as AMD GPU can not be just produced on demand. You can have $100M dollar at hand, and you would still be looking at a big red "SOLD OUT" message on newegg back in June 2011 when high end AMD GPU were sold out everywhere. The attacker would have to carefully and slowly accumulate GPU, without disturbing the market supply/demand, it'll take a long time. By the time the attacker has accumulated a high amount, the GPUs would have become obsolete because it's generations behind the current products.


a person with enough money and ordering capacity can likely order by the pallet direct from the manufacturers.



You don't seem to understand, AMD's production capacity is pretty much static year over year. Unless the attacker signs contract with AMD to buy $100M worth of chips year after year, AMD isn't going to go through the costly ramp up production just for the attacker. Therefore, this person must compete with regular GPU supply/demand game. This is why in June 2011, AMD high end cards sold out everywhere for months, you think AMD/MSI/Gigabyte etc.. don't want to make money? They literally can't, since AMD doesn't have spare capacity to produce more gpu chips for MSI/Gigabyte to make graphic cards.

Now if the attacker is so well funded, that he can afford to sign multi-year contract to buy Billion dollar worth of AMD chips, then yeah he could possibly attack a scrypt network of 100GH. On the other hand, to attack a SHAxxx network, for example the current Bitcoin network with 100TH, only a less than $10M investment in ASIC is needed.
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is scrypt better than shaXXX?? on: April 30, 2013, 01:49:51 AM

No, ASIC is a vulnerability, addressed by the scrypt algorithm. GPU is a much better hardware of choice to be based on for decentralization. ASIC can be cheaply mass manufactured by a well funded attacker, while GPU can not, to get massive amount of GPU, you have to compete with the general gamer market, it is extremely difficult to obtain a meaningful amount of GPU to attack the network.

Yes ASIC can also be made for scrypt, but due to the memory intensive traits of the algorithm, the scrypt ASIC will be a lot more expensive than the SHAXXX version, and also power usage will also be higher. The advantage of ASIC over GPU will be a lot smaller in scrypt mining.

A well funded attacker wouldn't have a problem acquiring vast amounts of GPUs either.

Scrypt is neither better nor worse than SHA 256. They're just different hashing algorithms.


They would have a problem, as AMD GPU can not be just produced on demand. You can have $100M dollar at hand, and you would still be looking at a big red "SOLD OUT" message on newegg back in June 2011 when high end AMD GPU were sold out everywhere. The attacker would have to carefully and slowly accumulate GPU, without disturbing the market supply/demand, it'll take a long time. By the time the attacker has accumulated a high amount, the GPUs would have become obsolete because it's generations behind the current products.
1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is scrypt better than shaXXX?? on: April 29, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
Didn't those ASIC users pump up BTC Volume and market acceptance as well as multiplying the offers available for the community now?

I get the point scrypt is easier to be used by everyone with low power also but isn't it the big players bringing all the market into the coins?

As conclusion of that thought, why is FTC pumped as hell and a coin like BTE is going down? Shouldn't the community go for ASIC friendly coins that the big players will jump on to increase the markets?

No, ASIC is a vulnerability, addressed by the scrypt algorithm. GPU is a much better hardware of choice to be based on for decentralization. ASIC can be cheaply mass manufactured by a well funded attacker, while GPU can not, to get massive amount of GPU, you have to compete with the general gamer market, it is extremely difficult to obtain a meaningful amount of GPU to attack the network.

Yes ASIC can also be made for scrypt, but due to the memory intensive traits of the algorithm, the scrypt ASIC will be a lot more expensive than the SHAXXX version, and also power usage will also be higher. The advantage of ASIC over GPU will be a lot smaller in scrypt mining.
1289  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion! on: April 28, 2013, 04:45:16 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, so if I have a standard PC PSU (for example from a GPU mining rig). I would be able to power these BE blades, without buying anything extra? is the "adapter" in the videos included in the package?
1290  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 50 Block Erupter Blades on: April 28, 2013, 04:26:22 PM
5@31
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS] WeMineLTC.com | 0% FEES! | Stratum | DDoS Protection |!! on: April 28, 2013, 01:44:44 AM
coinotron's 11% reject rate and high share difficulty was becoming very annoying for me, so I switched over to your pool. Wow day and night difference, reject rate less than 0.1%, I'm really impressed. Plus all the transparent stats and 0% mandatory fee. I might never go anywhere else  Grin Grin Keep up the good work.
1292  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: April 28, 2013, 12:43:13 AM
Trying to get the price down?

Yes I did sell my shares, and I would considering buying again at lower prices. However, I have no illusions that the rabid AM masses will let that happen at a sensible price any time soon.

Mostly I'm asking the same thing I asked repeatedly before I sold:
Where the f$@# is all the hashing they promised?

This question should be MORE important to shareholders, so please quit trying to paint me as a manipulator. I am still an investor in bitcoin and watch many things I don't have stake in.



I think at the rate AM is going, you'll be waiting for a long time for cheap shares. I'm not sure if AM will ever be cheap (0.65BTC or less) again, once they are fully deployed, they will likely to keep mining at 30%-40% of BTC network hash rate perpetually, with re-investing of earnings into more hardware. Certainly you will not see cheap shares for this year, since AM will be 50TH in 1-2 months, no other competitor can even come close.
1293  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - Casascius Coin, 1 BTC, 9/19/2011, GRADED MS63! on: April 27, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
If this auction doesn't go anywhere, I'll be forced to put it on eBay.  Don't make me put it on eBay, people!

Are you surprised when you try to sell a max worth 2-3 BTC item for 5 BTC?
1294  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: April 27, 2013, 01:44:25 PM
No split gimmick. My line of thought is similar to warren buffet's $160,000/share BRKA, and also GOOG. High stock prices keeps the weak hands out. $170/share is no where near too high for "small investors".
1295  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Mail order bride on: April 27, 2013, 01:38:04 PM
I want one too, slaves OK!
1296  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: April 27, 2013, 12:09:02 AM
TradeFortress I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but did you post your verified real world identity somewhere? I think for a service like this, we would need to know.
1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTB LTC for BTC on: April 26, 2013, 07:05:49 PM
I have 2BTC I am looking to trade for ltc.

I prefer escrow if you are looking for all 2BTC

Will send to an address to verify funds if needed.

Post or PM offers

Go to BTC-E and get them easily. Why would you post here for a currency that can easily be bought on a popular exchange.
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: S.BBET-PT and S.DICE-PT on LTC-Global lesson learned? on: April 26, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
It was your own investment decision. If LTC had dropped in value, then your DICE and BBET shares would have risen in value. They dropped in value because LTC went up 1500% against BTC. (well DICE had also dropped in value in BTC too).

Anyway I think it's a bad idea to purchase any security denominated in BTC or USD, unless your intention was to sell your LTC. If you wanted to invest your LTC, I feel the only viable investment is LTC-GLOBAL itself, plus the LTC mining bonds
1299  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: System constantly reboots with 4x 7950, but not 3x on: April 26, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
kokojie are you mining sha or scrypt?
what's your stable hash/config with 3 cards?
please check this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188308.0
thanks

I'm mining scrypt, I can stably mine at 620 mh with 3x, I overclocked only a tiny bit. core to 1060, mem clock to 1335. If I mine with 4x, doesn't matter if I overclock or not, it always reboots.

ok thanks I will try these settings.
I will let you know  if I can put 4 cards on msi mobo without powered risers

I suggest you don't try it, I burned my motherboard before on a gigabyte mobo, I didn't know the reason, now after research, I know it's because I put 4x gpu on it. Like the good poster said on top, you'll need powered molex to the pcie bus, to have 4x gpu, so unless your mobo provides this function, it can be burned if you try it.
1300  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: System constantly reboots with 4x 7950, but not 3x on: April 26, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
kokojie are you mining sha or scrypt?
what's your stable hash/config with 3 cards?
please check this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188308.0
thanks

I'm mining scrypt, I can stably mine at 620 mh with 3x, I overclocked only a tiny bit. core to 1060, mem clock to 1335. If I mine with 4x, doesn't matter if I overclock or not, it always reboots.
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