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2101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 05:31:19 PM
dev    anyupdate from busoni?
No nothing new yet.

it seems they need more time to understand the code?

 Grin

The real problem is that they made a stupid mistake, and they refuse to admit it. But everyone knows the truth, and how incompetent these people are.

Next time incompetent people please do not make silly shows like this.

What mistake was that?

Check these posts:

from supercoindev:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7315208#msg7315208

from maryvale:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.msg7315515#msg7315515
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.msg7315840#msg7315840

and digibyte:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.msg7328574#msg7328574

and this from timerland:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7346928#msg7346928



Funny, they want higher standards of the coins they add and cant even be bothered to check properly, what a joke. Worst part is that they havent added it yet or said anything else after? just lol.

they do not make any official apologize on this, maybe they are still review the code.
 Grin
2102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
I am still mining it even though at received any coins in the wallet yet Smiley

I do like super coin Smiley

do you just can not syn to the supercoin network?

which system in your computer?

windows or apple mac os?

It's a Mac OS X , version 10.9.3still can't find where to add the node??

So frustrating that I still can't sync my wallet

you need to edit file supercoin.conf i suppose you created it and put it in the directory before.

it seems he did not created a conf and do not know where to put the conf
2103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 05:27:36 PM
I am still mining it even though at received any coins in the wallet yet Smiley

I do like super coin Smiley

do you just can not syn to the supercoin network?

which system in your computer?

windows or apple mac os?

It's a Mac OS X , version 10.9.3still can't find where to add the node??

So frustrating that I still can't sync my wallet

do you have a Supercoin.conf?

if you do not have one, just paster the conf in a text and save it as supercoin.conf

and put this supercoin.conf to the folder where has the Wallet.dat

and open the Wallet again, it will be ok.

you need a supercoin.conf to syn the Wallet.
2104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 18, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
Source: http://altcoinherald.com/supercoin-bounces-back-busonis-kryptonite-move

Look, up in the sky…it’s a bird…it’s a plane…

Okay, let’s not get out of hand here. SuperCoin hasn’t done much to save the world and it’s clearly not bulletproof. Still, the price has firmed up nicely in the past few days after being backstabbed and submarined by ‘Busoni,’ the Boy King of Poloniex.

I don’t actually know how old ‘Busoni’ is, but after his actions regarding SuperCoin it’s not hard to imagine he’s still wet behind the ears.

For those who don’t know what went down, I’ll summarize. SuperCoin won the voting to be included on Poloniex (what an honor!) Instead of playing his role and facilitating trade for SUPER Busoni instead decided to reject their inclusion and make this antagonistic public post:

“MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the “anon” feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.”

For the first time in Altcoin History (and in the history of Poloniex) he decided to check the code and reject an inclusion AFTER his customers voted for the coin. Actually, he admitted later he didn’t check the code, but you get the idea.
Busoni ‘Busts’ SuperCoin But Doesn’t Provide Proof

The big problem with the post was he didn’t actually catch SuperCoin doing anything wrong that should have precluded them from being listed on his exchange. In general, altcoin exchanges should be HAPPY to list altcoins. After all, trading fees are how they earn their money. Wouldn’t it make more sense to do all you can to work to work with a coin Dev to make sure that trading can be handled in a smooth manner. We’ve seen plenty of examples in recent days that show this is not the case. Altcoin exchanges are happy to accept the fees, but will not expend even ONE IOTA of energy to communicate with coin teams or to protect investors from scams.

Oh, you’re probably thinking…”but that’s exactly what Busoni was doing here“. As part of his self-proclaimed effort to ‘raise the bar‘ for shitcoins he’s now reviewing the code to make sure he doesn’t get taken advantage of. Sounds great, in theory. If there actually was a transparent process of review that included appeals and arbitration maybe that would be the case.
However, with a dictatorship that’s not possible. In the current era, what ‘Busoni’ the unknown man says goes. His word is law and if you don’t like it you can always trade at one of the other 42 altcoin exchanges in existence.

In reality, that’s probably what people should consider doing after this latest debacle.
Standards Will Go Up Soon Enough, Anyway

Whether the current crowd of altcoin exchanges can push the bar higher (right now it’s below sea level) is doubtful. However, in the next few years if trading volume continues to climb it will happen anyway. A natural process of thinning the herd will occur, but even more important, a new breed of venture-capital backed exchanges will rise to take over from the current crop.

This is a traditional and normal part of any new industry. At first hobbyists supply most of the services. As the money increases, venture capitalists who are hungering for new opportunities, put big money into companies that are designed to take over. These services are generally very transparent, reliable, and much less prone to misdeeds. They’re also fully compliant with laws, which is going to be a bigger deal as regulatory agencies clamor to get their piece of the growing cryptocurrency pie.

We can forgive Busoni for his error with the code. After all, he’s just learning. He was a newbie to BitCoinTalk on August 14, 2013, when he wrote:

“Here is genuine noob question, but I haven’t been able to find the answer on my own.

In Sunny’s paper, it says that the origin prime for a given block must be divisible by the previous block’s hash.

But block hashes have letters in them. How do you get a number you can actually divide?”

He’s had quite a rise from ‘noob‘ as he called himself to Owner in less than a year. We can expect many more mistakes from him as part of his ongoing learning process (since he’s learning on the job). The key is to make sure WE don’t lose money because of them. As always, be SUPER careful of trading in new altcoins, especially if you’re basing the ‘price rise’ on the actions of a third party. As evidenced here, ANYTHING can happen with an altcoin and most of it is bad news for people who are holding!

We’ll keep our eyes peeled for more developments. The team behind SUPER has moved on and the price of the coin has rallied a bit. The damage has been done, but it won’t stop a dedicated team or community from pressing forward.

Source: http://altcoinherald.com/supercoin-bounces-back-busonis-kryptonite-move


nice post then how is that, others when they checked code, knew busoni claims were false. the fact is he read the code wrong. he was reading the code like all others that checked it, they did not find anything wrong. simple as busoni was quick to jump the gun, and had it vetted by another person so he claims. he made the mistake and should simply say hands down, and now he says his standards of gone up. better remove cinni and silk aswell as they have the same code in their coin

but it seems they do not have time to admit their mistake?
2105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
Anon coin summary(not include cryptonote coin)

Dark coin(Anon Wallet )            price:0.016BTC (1680K satoshi)
XC coin(Anon Wallet)               Price:0.0013BTC (135K satoshi)
Vericoin(No Anon Wallet)          Price:0.00015BTC (15K satoshi)
CryptCoin (No Anon  Wallet)     Price:0.0013BTC (130K satoshi)
CloakCoin(No Anon Wallet)       Price:0.0002BTC  (200K satoshi)
Supercoin(Anon Wallet)           Price:0.00003BTC (3K satoshi)



So we still have a long way to go...



+2   Grin Grin
2106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 18, 2014, 05:17:01 PM
Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

There is a huge misconception out there that MAX_MONEY sets the total coin count for a coin. This is false. MAX_MONEY sets the maximum amount of coins that can be sent in a single transaction over a network. It is customary to typically set this to the maximum coins that will be created but it is not necessary.

We have played around and tested this to verify it on the DigiByte testnet before. We made sure this was the case.

The actual reward is determined here between lines 1033 & 1082: https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp

Code:
// miner's coin base reward
int64_t GetProofOfWorkReward(int nHeight, int64_t nFees, const CBlockIndex* pindex)
{
int64_t nSubsidy = 512 * COIN;

if(nHeight == 1)
nSubsidy = INITIAL_OFFERING_PERCENTAGE * POW_MAX_MONEY;

if(nHeight > LAST_POW_BLOCK)
return 0;

int nPoWHeight = GetPowHeight(pindex) + 1;
printf(">> nHeight = %d, nPoWHeight = %d\n", nHeight, nPoWHeight);

int nReduceFactor = 0;
if(nPoWHeight < SWITCHOVER_POW_BLOCK)
{
nReduceFactor = nPoWHeight / 43200;

if(nReduceFactor > 9)
nSubsidy = nMinSubsidy;
else
nSubsidy >>= nReduceFactor;
}
else
{
if(nPoWHeight < 19200)
nSubsidy = 512 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 28800)
nSubsidy = 256 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 38400)
nSubsidy = 128 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 48000)
nSubsidy = 64 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 57600)
nSubsidy = 32 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 67200)
nSubsidy = 16 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 76800)
nSubsidy = 8 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 86400)
nSubsidy = 4 * COIN;
else if(nPoWHeight < 96000)
nSubsidy = 2 * COIN;
else
nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;
}

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

To find the exact coin coin count you would need to do the math and add everything up in there.

For a comparison this is where Bitcoins maximum coin supply is determined. Once again you have to calculate it out to prove it is 21 million.
Code:
int64_t GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64_t nFees)
{
    int64_t nSubsidy = 50 * COIN;
    int halvings = nHeight / Params().SubsidyHalvingInterval();

    // Force block reward to zero when right shift is undefined.
    if (halvings >= 64)
        return nFees;

    // Subsidy is cut in half every 210,000 blocks which will occur approximately every 4 years.
    nSubsidy >>= halvings;

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

EDIT: We are not defending Supercoin (had never heard of them until this post) nor have we done the exact math in their code. We simply wanted to point out a common misconception to avoid future issues for everyone.

thanks for the clarification.

it's good for all Altcoin.
2107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 18, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
So busoni just disappeared...... Grin
2108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 04:54:52 PM
dev    anyupdate from busoni?
No nothing new yet.

it seems they need more time to understand the code?

 Grin
2109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
dev    anyupdate from busoni?
2110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 04:49:31 PM
Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?
Yes it's automated. If I understand correctly, multipools mine the most profitable altcoins then immediately convert them to BTC then pay them out. I'd say they dump around 10-30k coins at a time, eating up all of the top Buy orders. This artificially deflates the value of the coin because the true value is in it's innovation, something that multipools have no interest in.

wrong. The value of a network is in its current market value, determined by price on an open exchange. Innovation has nothing to do with it.

Its not artificial because open exchanges are driven by supply and demand. If demand is high, multipools mine "the most profitable coin" and match the demand with supply.

Thi is a good thing.

Innovation is do very important.
why darkcoin and XCcoin and Vericoin and voot coin ends their pow or reduce the blockreward to a small number when they realized the Multipool problem......
2111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 04:45:25 PM
Its unfair because Devs are not central bankers.

The developer sets the network. network should be allowed to run its course. If prices drop, devs shouldn't be allowed to cut supply. You might ask yourself why but let me ask you this. If prices were to to rocket to the moon, should the dev be allowed to increase supply?

If your answer is no to increasing supply, then the answer should be no to cutting supply.

It becomes a scam when you tell people "yes there will be 12 million coins over 1 year" then turn around 3 months later and say "just kidding, we are cutting suppy at 3 million". This would force a liquidity squeeze, send the price higher and reward early adopters.  

But that is exactly what you want right? Cut the supply after you have had your fill of coins and artificially pump the price? Sorry man. You argument for cutting supply hold no weight. So what if multipools sell coins at market? They control the hashrate, they earn those coins fair and square. If you want to compete with them, get yourself enough hashrate, mine supercoin and hoard them.

If multipools are mining supercoin and dumping, then clearly the price is too high and liquidity needs to be injected. I welcome multipools because if I am trying to buy big blocks of coins, why should I be forced to pay a higher price? This is were multipools are a godsend. while everyone is hoarding, multipools are liquidity providers. They will sell to me. Amazing.

I can provide more points but this should suffice. Its becoming clear that you only care about the price going higher. the only time PoW or PoS should be cut is when there was a clear error in the development of the coin. Two examples would be CENT and NINJA. Clear coding errors that hyper-inflated and ultimately killed the coins. Supercoin is not suffering from that so I don't see any problems with the way things are right now.

+1

A change in supply parameters (other than % stake, which rewards existing holders proportionately) is the death knell for a coin's potential and trust. Just talking about it is not good, but one single executed change is enough to kill. Any savvy traders will see it as an attempt by early adopters to dump-out.

8 is it unfair to reduce blockreward again? or any risk?

even you are a miner mining Supercoin now, it‘s unfair for you, because you can not get many Supercoins with Multipool control the more than 80% everyday's coin supply, also Multipool keep dumping, the price will go lower and lower, you mining Supercoin may can not afford your mining cost now. is that fair for you?
if you are a Supercoin investor, it is truly unfair for your investment, because Multipool take the most part profit on all Altcoins. you investment wroth less everyday. it's unfair.
if you want to join Supercoin Community, it’s unfair for you to buy a coin and that coin price goes lower later.

risk: if we can handle this correctly, it may not take risk on Supercoin development, because many Altcoin update their source code several times, such as Darkcoin and XC coin.
2112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 04:42:52 PM
If multipools are mining supercoin and dumping, then clearly the price is too high and liquidity needs to be injected. I welcome multipools because if I am trying to buy big blocks of coins, why should I be forced to pay a higher price? This is were multipools are a godsend. while everyone is hoarding, multipools are liquidity providers. They will sell to me. Amazing.

+1 I agree with you there. Thanks to multipool, I was able to buy more today at lower than asking price.

Its OK if you are a patient man and does not expected profits in several weeks.



do you guys really realize the real threat of Multipool?

it's a malignant tumour live in crypto world.

Not as simple as you think.....
2113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
leave now, will back soon later.

welcome further discussion, it’s great for Supercoin development.
2114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 02:25:21 PM
Its unfair because Devs are not central bankers.

The developer sets the network. network should be allowed to run its course. If prices drop, devs shouldn't be allowed to cut supply. You might ask yourself why but let me ask you this. If prices were to to rocket to the moon, should the dev be allowed to increase supply?

If your answer is no to increasing supply, then the answer should be no to cutting supply.

It becomes a scam when you tell people "yes there will be 12 million coins over 1 year" then turn around 3 months later and say "just kidding, we are cutting suppy at 3 million". This would force a liquidity squeeze, send the price higher and reward early adopters.  

But that is exactly what you want right? Cut the supply after you have had your fill of coins and artificially pump the price? Sorry man. You argument for cutting supply hold no weight. So what if multipools sell coins at market? They control the hashrate, they earn those coins fair and square. If you want to compete with them, get yourself enough hashrate, mine supercoin and hoard them.

If multipools are mining supercoin and dumping, then clearly the price is too high and liquidity needs to be injected. I welcome multipools because if I am trying to buy big blocks of coins, why should I be forced to pay a higher price? This is were multipools are a godsend. while everyone is hoarding, multipools are liquidity providers. They will sell to me. Amazing.

I can provide more points but this should suffice. Its becoming clear that you only care about the price going higher. the only time PoW or PoS should be cut is when there was a clear error in the development of the coin. Two examples would be CENT and NINJA. Clear coding errors that hyper-inflated and ultimately killed the coins. Supercoin is not suffering from that so I don't see any problems with the way things are right now.

Thank you for your word, nice we have good discussion here.

we do not reduce the supply, just put the left pow coin to pos phase, it's better for Supercoin.

check this:

Supercoin Long Term Development Advice

hi Supercoin Community

i am provenceday, truly, i have some amount Supercoin(i also have more than 100 posts on this thread).  Although i try to be neutral, but still some advices from me may be very subjective. Please Don't soak up everything uncritically.

about me, i have involved with coins more than 2 years, and mining and holding more than 100 altcoins at least. Also i am running 2 biggest Multipool in China. so i just want to share some experience with Community.


1  Whether Supercoin is a good coin or not?

For me, i believe Supercoin is a good coin deserve to hold. Because Supercoin has a dedicated dev team, yes dev team is the vital to Altcoin (not for bitcoin Grin), if dev team abandoned a altcoin, then the altcoin may not go far. Luckily we have a dedicated team behind Supercoin. Everybody in Community know this.

Supercoin is a pow/pos separated coin with some lucky Super pos block, then everybody will want to open their Supercoin Wallet for super block which can accelerate the transfer confirmation. so supercoin has a very fast confirmation, 6 confirmation less than 2 minutes, it's super fast.
But if you also involve in XC coin Community, you will know XC has a very very slow transfer confirmation, some time it may take 1 hours to get 6 confirmation. because XC coin has a very low Pos Rate(3.33%,but good for price)and some shortcomings on their POS  mechanism.
Supercoin are also also developing Anon Wallet, and has released the alpha Version for public test. it's a big thing. if you innove in altcoin more than 1 years, you will Know Anon feature is hard to accomplished. That's the reason why darkcoin and XC coin still only have a test Anon Wallet. As i know (maybe i am wrong), only Darkcoin and XC coin and Supercoin has a Anon Wallet now(not included Cryptonote technology coin, such as bytecoin or XMR). So that's prove we really has a professional and high-level dev team.

2 Which factors influence the Altcoin price?
Truly, demand decides price in free market. but for Altcoin, mainly 2 things influence the Altcoin price.(i posted this before)
 First is coin inflation, because everyday if we have 0.3 Million supercoin, if the price hit 10K satoshi, you will need 30BTC buying support, that's ok with current circumstances, but if the price hit 100K satoshi, you will need 300BTC support everyday, so it's impossible for nowdays coin, that's the reason why Dark and XC and VRC coin has very low inflation(that's also lead they have a much higher price than Supercoin).
 Second is the Multipool, they will control everyday's coin supply, after they mined this coin, they will dump it soon for profit. and because i am running the 2 biggest Multipool in China,(more than 100G scrypt and X11 hash rate) i know exactly how Multipool works, everyminus Multipool will detect the all coin listed on all exchange platform(if they have a open api), then based the advanced profit Algorithm, they will decide to mine which coin, then they will mine it and dump it ASAP for bitcoins, because they must pay miner bitcoin everyday. otherwise miner will leave, also if miner can not get more profit than mining LTC, miner will also leave, because they can mine LTC instead. From my observe, at the recent 3 days, mining Supercoin is the most profitable thing, it have at least 50% premium than just mining LTC coin. so why not mining Supercoin and then dump it ASAP? it's really a good business for profit!but it's a disaster for Supercoin price.

3 Why same concept Anon coin has much higher price than Supercoin?

Dark price is 0.017BTC (4,387,505 DRK)
XC price is 0.0015BTC (5,512,780 XC)
Vericoin Price is 0.00011BTC (26,768,365 VRC)
Supercoin price is 0.00002995BTC (11,811,810 SUPER)

i do not want to say more, from these statistics, you can make your decision.

4 Price prior or Development affairs prior?
Guys, we are not at 2011,which we has less than 10 Altcoins, we are in 2014,, we have more than 333 Altcoins on coinmarketcap. even bitcoin, if the price keep dropping, most of people will leave. Further more, if the price is higher, then we maybe stable later, we will draw more resource for long term development, it’s a really good thing. that's why dark and XC can not be defeatd easily. Nowdays, innovations need more resource Support.

5 What does mining means for Altcoin?
Now we have the POS algorithm, even without mining, the network is secure. mining is just a way for coin distribution and not very environmentally friendly,do you know how many electricity been wasted by mining bitcoin? Bitcoin Mining Uses $15 Million's Worth Of Electricity Every ...i do believe if satoshi has a better way to distribute bitcoin, he will not choose mining method.

6 what does Multipool does everyday?
i am running some Multipool, i know it. Multipool is vampire. they will bleed white everycoin's profit until they turn to mining LTC again.

7 Should we reduce the block reward more quickly?

i have proposed 2 times to reduce the block reward.
First time, i post this
DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

I understand your point and concerns, and we will seriously consider your proposal. We know this is what happened to XC and other coins. We will protect the best of our community's interests against multipools. The Supercoin dev team will make a decision on this matter. Thank you for your great support to us.

Dev,Thank you very much! that's the reason:

thanks for your quick reply dev.
i have engaged with altcoin more than one years, have seen so many good coins just killed by Multipool.
i do hope supercoin has a bright future, because we are super!

From my altcoin experience, there are 2 things are really bad for altcoin.

First is coin inflation, because everyday if we have 0.3 Million supercoin, if the price hit 10K satoshi, you will need 30BTC buying support, that's ok with current circumstances, but if the price hit 100K satoshi, you will need 300BTC support everyday, so it's impossible for nowdays coin, that's the reason why dark and XC and VRC coin has very low inflation. i also hope supercoin has a lower inflation.

Second is the Multipool, they will control everyday's coin supply, after they mined this coin, they will dump it soon for profit.

so based the two reasons, i would like to advice to reduce the block reward more quickly and keep the total amount fixed or also can reduce the total amount. otherwise the price is not maintainable.

so how about reduce the block reward every week and at some point keep it at a low block reward?

so now we have 512 coin block reward,
512--》256--》128--》64 ends (4 weeks)
or
512--》256--》128--》64--》32 ends.(Multipool will not profitable any more and keep lower inflation also small miner will mine this coin)(5 weeks)

if we have a lower block reward, people would keep their coin for pos mining, it‘s a better and greener way for coin distributing than Multipool control the coin supply.

But it seems dev are more mild on reduce block, i am more radical. Dev decide to reduce block more quickly, but choose to halves every 10day, at first the halve is every 45 days. After this Announcement, the price rise from 1k satoshi to 4ksatoshi.

Second time i posted this 2days ago:


Community can vote for weather to reduce block reward more quickly.

i do advice Supercoin can update source code again tomorrow, and reduce the block reward to 64 Supercoin or 32 Supercoin directly and then halves everyweek, until we reach 2coin or 1coin block reward, then we can end the pow and turn to a pure pos coin.

we do not need to suffer another 1 month Multipool dumping.or it may kill the young and promising Supercoin

Community can discuss this issue.

it seems both Darkcoin and XC coin make successive update to face Multipool's dumping, we may also need to make a tough decision again.

Thank you very much. welcome any comments on this advice, good or bad? Dev and Community together make a decision for a better Supercoin!


Also dev is very busying at Anon Wallet test on sunday, if we can reduce block reward first, we can put off another two days for Anon Wallet test, i believe Community will Support this.
Thanks for your Support.

But dev are too busy to test the Anon Wallet, so they do not take further action on this.

8 is it unfair to reduce blockreward again? or any risk?

even you are a miner mining Supercoin now, it‘s unfair for you, because you can not get many Supercoins with Multipool control the more than 80% everyday's coin supply, also Multipool keep dumping, the price will go lower and lower, you mining Supercoin may can not afford your mining cost now. is that fair for you?
if you are a Supercoin investor, it is truly unfair for your investment, because Multipool take the most part profit on all Altcoins. you investment wroth less everyday. it's unfair.
if you want to join Supercoin Community, it’s unfair for you to buy a coin and that coin price goes lower later.

risk: if we can handle this correctly, it may not take risk on Supercoin development, because many Altcoin update their source code several times, such as Darkcoin and XC coin.

9 Further development plan advice?

0 decentralized Anon system and trustless mixer
1 more application on Supercoin
2 Mobil basd payment system
3 Merchant adoption
4 media report
5 grow Community
6 keep adding new function on Supercoin
7 charity Fund

Thanks.
2115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?
Yes it's automated. If I understand correctly, some multipools mine the most profitable altcoins then immediate convert them to BTC then pay them out. I'd say they dump around 10-30k coins at a time, eating up all of the top Buy orders. This artificially deflates the value of the coin because the true value is in it's innovation, something that multipools have no interest in.

Multipool is vampire...i know them.
2116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
After the first half, this coin will probably rise up in price a few thousand sats then sit steady again until the next halve.

If PoW ends at the same time Anon is officially released, this coin will take off faster than Clark Kent whenever Lois Lane is in trouble.

lol. Supercoin will warp time by spinning the earth so fast if PoW is shortened. If not, it'll just be a more comfortable ride up. Grin

No need to shorten the pow, just put all the left pow coin to pos phase, it's fair to everyone.
2117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?

They will dump ASAP when their mined coin get confirmed.
2118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 01:07:58 PM
Don't cut the PoW. Stick to the original plan. So what if multipools control the supply. They control the hashrate. Its only fair. If anything, this still allows people to get a position in now who might otherwise be late to the game.

You don't need to cut PoW or cut the PoS rate. It would be greedy to do so. It would be as bad as DRK instamining then cutting the block reward. You don't want that kind of stench hanging around your coin trust me. the dev isn't here to cater to early adoptors screaming "cut the PoW". You are basically saying " I have a ton of Supercoin now, please cut the supply so my coins are worth more and I can get rich".

It doesn't work that way. If Supercoindev does cut PoW or lower the PoS rate, its an outright scam.

Supercoin is trading steady. good volume. It doesn't matter how many coins exist. The market will price the true value of Supercoin.

Reducing PoW immediately is unfair. What i felt was a good balance was stopping PoW after the next 3 block reward halving. (~25 days)
This means that PoW count will drop from 18.2 million to about 16 million. Not a huge drop but at least we won't suffer multipool dumps.
We could also drop PoS inflation also. Reducing PoS % rate will make super blocks feel even more special.
But it's really up to the dev. Also, 2 hard forks so close to each other isn't good. So it shouldn't be rushed.

Block reward halving happens in about 24 hours now.
So let's all first see how it goes after that shall we? Wink

Without Multipool dump, it's really good for Supercoin. but what i can say is that i run some Multipools, i know if mining Supercoin is profitable, even we reduce the block reward, we may need to suffer Another 20 days dump.

so best is cut the pow directly and turn the left pow coin to pos coin. it fair to everyone.

if you think this is unfair, tell me the reason?
2119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
If there is any recommended pools you aware of, let us know, so we can get in touch with them.

you want to mine supercoin or want to tell Multipool not to mine Supercoin?
2120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] Testnet Anon Wallet|Super POS|Super Fast|FUD Cleared|Halve Soon on: June 18, 2014, 12:47:53 PM
If Supercoindev does cut PoW or lower the PoS rate, its an outright scam.

Supercoin is trading steady. good volume. It doesn't matter how many coins exist. The market will price the true value of Supercoin.
It's not a scam because many coins have done it and are doing just fine, but you do have a point. SuperCoin will take off either way.

yes, just like Darkcoin XCcoin Vericoin Cryptcoin and Vootcoin and so many othercoins.....
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