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2141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 06:48:38 PM

The thread you're pointing too, shows a an example of a pool being abused by fake shares, which is, again, completely irrelevant with regards to network security and block rewards for just everyone (except those on the abused pool). The coin in question eventually forked for reasons again completely unrelated to your claims here. This adds absolutely nothing to what has already been expressed.

You continue to not take the time to read the explanations that you're offered, and you have not added any question or argument of value.
Sorry, but I'm done here. You are not being ignored, but I will certainly not feed this discussion any further!
Cheers,
~ Myagui


The thread you're pointing too, shows a an example of a pool being abused by fake shares, which is, again, completely irrelevant with regards to network security and block rewards for just everyone (except those on the abused pool). The coin in question eventually forked for reasons again completely unrelated to your claims here. This adds absolutely nothing to what has already been expressed.

You continue to not take the time to read the explanations that you're offered, and you have not added any question or argument of value.
Sorry, but I'm done here. You are not being ignored, but I will certainly not feed this discussion any further!
Cheers,
~ Myagui

Are we reading the same thread !? Roll Eyes

luqash3 was faking shares AND FINDING BLOCKS.

Ignore these facts again and you'll win a super secret prize. Wink





Nope. We're saying that Luqash3 was one one of the few lingering people at that pool that wasn't faking hash, that it was a time when difficulty was extremely low and the coin was dying, and he was only managing to solve a block every 1-3 hours on a 30 second coin.

He found 247 fucking blocks with less than 30 khash and/or "fake shares".
2142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Updated on: May 16, 2014, 06:39:50 PM
CMON ! NVC and that stinky craptsy admin posing as a hobocoin ?

How is HBN's pre-ANN instamine treating you and/or your friends ?


I wondered how long it would take for someone to mention HBN...it and quite a few of the other coins on Cryptsy are "in-house" developed and specifically designed to make the "Back Room" a bit of money. What's the "Back Room?" Oh, its a secret place where pool ops (DYoungII, AhmedBodi), cryptsy mods (Mullick, Horus-aka-JDTMP4), cryptsy admins (BitJohn/BigVern), and coindevs cloners (iGotSpots, Defaced, Muddafudda, r3wt, Blundertoe/Thudertoe, Shakezulu) hang out on Skype and plot scams.

HBN is a 100% example of the in-house scam coin from this team of ruthless cloners, interesting some of them started this thread! Other examples include: IFC (muddafudda), Franko (defaced), NAN (r3wt/muddafudda), AndroidTokens (Shakezulu, muddafudda, Mullick), BottleCaps (Shakezulu, Mullick, BitJohn-aka-JohnEden), Lucky7Coin (muddafudda), CopperBars/Spots (Shakezulu, Mullick, IGotSpots), TIX (Mullick, IGotSpots), the list goes on and on and on.

Silly Horus the scammin hobo... I thought it was you !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310335.0


Nice to meet you IGotAIDS.

May I offer you an onion peel ? Grin


2143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 05:58:11 PM

The thread you're pointing too, shows a an example of a pool being abused by fake shares, which is, again, completely irrelevant with regards to network security and block rewards for just everyone (except those on the abused pool). The coin in question eventually forked for reasons again completely unrelated to your claims here. This adds absolutely nothing to what has already been expressed.

You continue to not take the time to read the explanations that you're offered, and you have not added any question or argument of value.
Sorry, but I'm done here. You are not being ignored, but I will certainly not feed this discussion any further!
Cheers,
~ Myagui

Are we reading the same thread !? Roll Eyes

luqash3 was faking shares AND FINDING BLOCKS.

Ignore these facts again and you'll win a super secret prize. Wink



2144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 16, 2014, 05:31:44 PM
I'm seeing some similarities with many of the X11 coins.

HIRO, LGC and HASH have been flash/instamined. Plz check their respective threads and blockexplorers..

Is X11 a scamcult ? lol..

Have you read the OP page ?
Is HIRO change market cap from 84 M -> 22 M?
Is HIRO change block reward from 500 -> 50 ?
lol ...

Where did you see that ?

HIRO's reward has always been 400.

This will become just as much of a disservice to HIRO as it will be for the coins/ ALTS, dumped by the pool. Many/most do not think favourably of multi pools. HIRO's image will suffer because of that.

You forgot to mention how you will achieve the 30% if the price increases.

Remember peeps... if its too good to be true..  Wink

wow, ok, so your point of view is plainly clear, you obviously have an agenda. either that or you're clinically retarded.

since when does a multipool which buys that one coin not act favorably towards the coin, are you even sure what you're talking about?

I was in on the very genesis of the development of the first multipool for Blackcoin, i was in IRC when Radiostatic had his meltdown and gave the reigns to Legion development. I helped gnu_user test the database of the new multipool one late night after another. and do you remember how "favorably" that affected BC's price? going from 500 satoshis to 30,000, peaking at around 90,000.

so do us all a favor and stop spreading FUD. or do your homework and learn what it is that you're actually talking about.

and by the way, has anyone seen the increased activity today on the trading price on mintpal? it's broken 400 sat and looks to keep on climbing. take a peek at those buy orders stacking up. about to be a fun time for the real #1 x11 coin. (which doesn't have any darksend BS feature that will only backfire when it gets banned from all major exchanges)

Hm, why the rage and the tone, chill out man.
If a coin rises a few ticks on 3 BTC total turnover its not really a reason to cheer. Look where its at today.
This whole multipool crap is a rather desperate attempt, the effect is marginal.

And now bark again.


MEEEfreakinOOOW THIS COIN WAS INSTAMINED ! Grin

Block 1 was found less than a minute after this thread was posted.
Time: 1394867933 (2014-03-15 07:18:53)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000331665707f230cc02400ce7042c862353520b2f221a5bc1e20609996fef

Block 100 appeared only 3 minutes later ! :O
Time: 1394868109 (2014-03-15 07:21:49)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000ea2071531c7d5734aed1e484adef17ee763e40a0027d538982aa9de738c

Block 1000 OMFG ! We're averaging 50 blocks per minute !
Time: 1394869150 (2014-03-15 07:39:10)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000078002878eed628aa9bd2c4260008dc780373ff471a9f1ea742b9e51c9a

Block 2000 ... Now up to 54 blocks per minute ! GTFO !
Time: 1394870176 (2014-03-15 07:56:16)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/000009cd02642a1f1b3081f42c5566443426cbe843db12c5dac5fa898ac0e662


Take a look at here http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin?count=10&hi=10
You will see Value Out = 500 DARK

Is HIRO change market cap from 84 M -> 22 M? It is happening with Darkcoin
Is HIRO change block reward from 500 -> 50 ?  It is happening with Darkcoin

The HIRO dev claims that for ethical reasons, he will not change the reward structure or the coin supply. I'll post the quote when I find it.

DRK is disgusting and will get very ugly if/when the miners/investors wise up.

I am getting the distinct impression that most if not all of these x11 coins are coming from the same person or group.

2145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
BOTH the pool AND the network are using the same daemon. This means both will be fooled by these exploits because the daemon is accepting the pool's hashrate which was calculated using the bloated sharerate figures.

fake hash vulnerability #1938
https://github.com/MPOS/php-mpos/issues/1938
Quote
With this method, all pools accepts fake hashrate and shares.

Wrong again.

The pools are processing shares of various difficulties. In contrast, the "network" only accepts full "blocks" at the proper network difficulty at any given time. There are no fake shares submitted to the network...

See, an abuser can submit all the fake shares he wants. The buggy pool will take them - BUT - unless the pool eventually finds a valid block, there is 0 reward. When the buggy pool does find a block, the block reward is perfectly valid, what is messed up (due to the abuse), is the share distribution of that block to the buggy pool miners. The network is completely unaffected. The victims, are the legitimate miners on the buggy pool, which are not getting their share of blocks found by the pool.

Please... Stop posting for a while, go take a read, a break, a smoke, then have another think about your claims. You have received well beyond any reasonable explanations to your concerns, and you do not appear to be taking a breath's moment to think about what is being explained.

Cheers,
~ Myagui


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252127.msg4492641#msg4492641
2146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 03:53:20 PM
Btw, how do we know that the fake shares are not minting blocks ?

Many miners are listed as "anonymous".

Thx for the link, Logicoin.info. Smiley You've made it easier for me to prove my point(s).

On stablehash Groestl, someone take 99% of all rewards, sending thousands shares while other send 5 or 6.. Look at the invalide rate too..



I don't think this guy find any block too, but in anonymous, we can't verify..

There is some exploit out there..
2147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 03:50:24 PM


I have contacted Trade My Bit about the incorrect block reward and asking that LGC be deslited from their multipool. Any assitance you guys could offer would be amazing.


Ohhh the lolzz..  "go away you meany multi pool !"

You didn't seem to mind them before this...

Has Trade my Bit been checked for any of these ?

fake hash vulnerability  #66
https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy/issues/66

Flooding with shares below the pool target #326
https://github.com/Crypto-Expert/stratum-mining/issues/326



Those only affect pool hashrate and not global hash rate.  You can submit as many fakeshares as you want towards the pool but that doesn't mean a block will get solved any quicker. What it means is that when the pool solves a block you get the majority of shares that come from the pool.

Do you have anything that will back up your claims ?

DGW is making its adjustments based on the pool's reported hashpower. Your statement is illogical..

No. DGW is making adjustments based on the amount of blocks solved and the total network hashrate.  It makes adjustments based on the coind's networkhashps.

Maybe this thread will explain it better than I can. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513382.0

BOTH the pool AND the network are using the same daemon. This means both will be fooled by these exploits because the daemon is accepting the pool's hashrate which was calculated using the bloated sharerate figures.

fake hash vulnerability #1938
https://github.com/MPOS/php-mpos/issues/1938
Quote
With this method, all pools accepts fake hashrate and shares.
2148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 02:13:47 PM


I have contacted Trade My Bit about the incorrect block reward and asking that LGC be deslited from their multipool. Any assitance you guys could offer would be amazing.


Ohhh the lolzz..  "go away you meany multi pool !"

You didn't seem to mind them before this...

Has Trade my Bit been checked for any of these ?

fake hash vulnerability  #66
https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy/issues/66

Flooding with shares below the pool target #326
https://github.com/Crypto-Expert/stratum-mining/issues/326



Those only affect pool hashrate and not global hash rate.  You can submit as many fakeshares as you want towards the pool but that doesn't mean a block will get solved any quicker. What it means is that when the pool solves a block you get the majority of shares that come from the pool.

Do you have anything that will back up your claims ?

DGW is making its adjustments based on the pool's reported hashpower. Your statement is illogical..
2149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 16, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
I'm seeing some similarities with many of the X11 coins.

HIRO, LGC and HASH have been flash/instamined. Plz check their respective threads and blockexplorers..

Is X11 a scamcult ? lol..

Have you read the OP page ?
Is HIRO change market cap from 84 M -> 22 M?
Is HIRO change block reward from 500 -> 50 ?
lol ...

Where did you see that ?

HIRO's reward has always been 400.

This will become just as much of a disservice to HIRO as it will be for the coins/ ALTS, dumped by the pool. Many/most do not think favourably of multi pools. HIRO's image will suffer because of that.

You forgot to mention how you will achieve the 30% if the price increases.

Remember peeps... if its too good to be true..  Wink

wow, ok, so your point of view is plainly clear, you obviously have an agenda. either that or you're clinically retarded.

since when does a multipool which buys that one coin not act favorably towards the coin, are you even sure what you're talking about?

I was in on the very genesis of the development of the first multipool for Blackcoin, i was in IRC when Radiostatic had his meltdown and gave the reigns to Legion development. I helped gnu_user test the database of the new multipool one late night after another. and do you remember how "favorably" that affected BC's price? going from 500 satoshis to 30,000, peaking at around 90,000.

so do us all a favor and stop spreading FUD. or do your homework and learn what it is that you're actually talking about.

and by the way, has anyone seen the increased activity today on the trading price on mintpal? it's broken 400 sat and looks to keep on climbing. take a peek at those buy orders stacking up. about to be a fun time for the real #1 x11 coin. (which doesn't have any darksend BS feature that will only backfire when it gets banned from all major exchanges)

Hm, why the rage and the tone, chill out man.
If a coin rises a few ticks on 3 BTC total turnover its not really a reason to cheer. Look where its at today.
This whole multipool crap is a rather desperate attempt, the effect is marginal.

And now bark again.


MEEEfreakinOOOW THIS COIN WAS INSTAMINED ! Grin

Block 1 was found less than a minute after this thread was posted.
Time: 1394867933 (2014-03-15 07:18:53)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000331665707f230cc02400ce7042c862353520b2f221a5bc1e20609996fef

Block 100 appeared only 3 minutes later ! :O
Time: 1394868109 (2014-03-15 07:21:49)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000ea2071531c7d5734aed1e484adef17ee763e40a0027d538982aa9de738c

Block 1000 OMFG ! We're averaging 50 blocks per minute !
Time: 1394869150 (2014-03-15 07:39:10)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/00000078002878eed628aa9bd2c4260008dc780373ff471a9f1ea742b9e51c9a

Block 2000 ... Now up to 54 blocks per minute ! GTFO !
Time: 1394870176 (2014-03-15 07:56:16)
http://explorer.hirocoin.org/block/000009cd02642a1f1b3081f42c5566443426cbe843db12c5dac5fa898ac0e662

2150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 16, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
I missed the BTC and LTC lunches, where can I go cry about that?  Huh

YAAAY ! Lets be just like them ! INSTAMINES FOR ALL !

Roll Eyes
2151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 01:44:50 PM


I have contacted Trade My Bit about the incorrect block reward and asking that LGC be deslited from their multipool. Any assitance you guys could offer would be amazing.


Ohhh the lolzz..  "go away you meany multi pool !"

You didn't seem to mind them before this...

Has Trade my Bit been checked for any of these ?

fake hash vulnerability  #66
https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy/issues/66

Flooding with shares below the pool target #326
https://github.com/Crypto-Expert/stratum-mining/issues/326

2152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Updated on: May 16, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
Majority of people are naive or do not care about Dark instamine because price goes up and hype is crazy high.
Same situation with Dreamcoin. All hail about its  zerocoin implementation possibility and price skyrockets. I have reason to believe that zerocoin will not be fully implemented in that coin any time soon. So im watching that topic with great interest. Soon those teenages will start to turn against eachother and, dev probalby abandons the coin like he did with hes previous coins and all will end up worse than blackcoin did.
Serious and more compicated coins which have great devs, suffer under lack of interest.
HBN, NOVA, WDC and couple of others. All have devs or dev team, who are extremely capable. MYR as well, but luckily MYR gets at least some attention.
My hope is that those coins which have capable devs will not abandon their work and all those X11 and some Scrypt junk coins will soon be forgotten.

CMON ! NVC and that stinky craptsy admin posing as a hobocoin ?

How is HBN's pre-ANN instamine treating you and/or your friends ?

Don't forget to add the crazy high PoS interest !

Block 1 - 2013-07-24 04:36:29 UTC
http://hbn.blockx.info/block/0000031f60f7e757eae4ea0af682c9330d1e0dcb9354e98e2eaf3a3884730d52

Block 100 - 2013-07-24 04:42:12 UTC
http://hbn.blockx.info/block/0000044a8e81eb2dcb0501c3bc6d02dac2859398c9537bb716cfc89fbcc0706b

Block 1000 - 2013-07-24 05:19:02 UTC
http://hbn.blockx.info/block/00000011033940a5e63d741171e54fb44ed8ddf9494a3f209f56f56e1a60e449

Block 3000 - 2013-07-24 17:26:31 UTC
http://hbn.blockx.info/block/00000002d9bb92b5aa5d492607874efe37a0a31bb67d515287c3a76346017ea3

3000 blocks... 12 hours ... lol !

Is this the original ANN, dated Sept 27/2014, for HBN ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0
2153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 16, 2014, 05:19:25 AM
I'm seeing some similarities with many of the X11 coins.

HIRO, LGC and HASH have been flash/instamined. Plz check their respective threads and blockexplorers..

Is X11 a scamcult ? lol..
2154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / NEW X13 ALGO ! on: May 16, 2014, 05:11:28 AM
MaruCoinOfficial Last Active: May 09, 2014, 03:06:28 PM
welcome to the first x13 scam coin  Grin

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Cry

We now have shit-algos !?

nnnnNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO !!
2155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 03:58:42 AM
GTFO with your knee jerk FUD accusation. Instamining and share/hashpower exploits are very common. Wake up !

Fyi, I have been solo mining random alts non stop for almost a year. (I rarely mine with a pool.) This includes LGC on and off for the past month. I can assure you, this is NOT normal behaviour for ANY coin and should be regarded as highly suspicious.

it's like driving behind that car with all the bumper stickers on it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31553;sa=showPosts



Really ? Is that the best you can do ?

As you can see by my posts.. we are surrounded by instamined ponzi scheme multipool'd shitcoins. :/

You might also notice that the reactions I'm getting here aren't much different than the ones I saw from the other shitdevs and their socks. Tongue

The first 50 barely took 5 minutes.

Block 1 - 2014-04-12 20:00:25
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/lgc/block.dws?000007dee53b4b1a31fc4ee14e22c6f9e1a992d5b2c37ca309c2615f29f275f9.htm

Block 50 - 2014-04-12 20:05:46
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/lgc/block.dws?0000000065e589fcab040ff736e2808c4a696ee193c21c7fd6af6b38c258a21b.htm

How many more instamine sessions will we find ?

Why are the block explorer's timestamps off by one hour ? Is it using UTC ?
2156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 16, 2014, 02:34:23 AM
LGC is currently being easymined or hacked by some kind of share/difficulty exploit.

Earlier, while solo mining, I watched the difficulty plummet from 70-80 down to 4. Whats really freaky is how the difficulty continued to decrease, despite the fact that the instamine was well under way. This screenie was taken just before it dipped to 4.

6 blocks minted in only 14 seconds ! Shocked



That's exactly what's supposed to happen when a large proportion of mining hash suddenly disappears from the network, because when that happens, the hash that's left takes much much longer to solve the current block. After that "hard block" gets solved, difficulty drops so that the network can catch up to where it is supposed to be in the blockchain.

Every coin does this. It's just more evident on the logicoin network because our core hash is so small. Add up all the hash on our mining pools. Its a pittance compared to other coins.

So if you're going to spread fud about a hack or easymining, how about some proof that it isn't just this phenomenon that all coins deal with. Otherwise, don't label it like that, just post your pictures, summarize what you saw and ask for an explanation. If you don't agree with the answers you get, let us know. Show us something we haven't considered. Anything. Help us!

If it is just a huge coin switching pool then that IS a problem, and by the sounds of things, its being worked on. But its not a hack.

GTFO with your knee jerk FUD accusation. Instamining and share/hashpower exploits are very common. Wake up !

Fyi, I have been solo mining random alts non stop for almost a year. (I rarely mine with a pool.) This includes LGC on and off for the past month. I can assure you, this is NOT normal behaviour for ANY coin and should be regarded as highly suspicious.
2157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BTCtalkcoin [BCC] Airdrop Details - Starts May 17 on: May 16, 2014, 01:34:05 AM
I suggest that a bot runs all BCC address on list and eliminate all members with an empty address  Grin

Better yet... remove every account created during the month of April.
2158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Hashcoin [HASH] - X11 ~ Animated Logo ~ DGW ~ Fast ~ Exchanges! on: May 15, 2014, 11:46:00 PM
Exposing shitcoins is VERRRRRRRY productive. Smiley

And its catching on as more and more of us are declaring war on any shitdev that dares to try.

We did our best to warn you. I hope you will learn from this experience.

Good luck.
2159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LGC] Logicoin | DGW | X11 | No Premine | DGW3 Incomming! on: May 15, 2014, 11:27:34 PM
LGC is currently being easymined or hacked by some kind of share/difficulty exploit.

Earlier, while solo mining, I watched the difficulty plummet from 70-80 down to 4. Whats really freaky is how the difficulty continued to decrease, despite the fact that the instamine was well under way. This screenie was taken just before it dipped to 4.

6 blocks minted in only 14 seconds ! Shocked

2160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BTCtalkcoin [BCC] - Pure POS - Multipool Ready! on: May 15, 2014, 11:01:46 PM
WAKE UP GUYS. DO NOT TRUST BCCdev.

THE AIR DROP IS FULL OF SOCKS !!

Another random sample screams FRAUD !

These were created on April 3 and 4.

#142 btcyang https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307723
#402 goodyang https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307546
#1127 yanglei504 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=262177
#1128 yangsiyu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307561
#1129 yangsiyu123 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307717

@BCCdev Give me one good reason why I shouldn't flag you with negative trust ?

FIX THE LIST.

GIVE US A REASON TO TRUST YOU !

If that isn't bad enough... the client will not sync.
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