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2141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 06, 2015, 10:43:53 AM
CKG price is hitting new highs (850,000 m), and ATH has been made against everything measurable!

Yesterday's meeting was very good, so the Prince of Soul invested BTC10 to a new character, Jungherr Paul. Earls and higher may start sockpuppet characters who have age 14 (normally minimum age is 15) and are nobles in the L8 - Jungherr (normally new characters are L1 - Visitor). This privilege costs no more than 50 million per such character.

If new players (or existing players who do not have any characters Earl or higher), want to become instant nobles, it is possible: Then the level is L9 Baron and the accreditation fee is 150 million. The age may be in between 21 and 50 years, since 21 years is the minimum legal age to be a Baron.

An existing character who is a noble in distant lands but not in CryptoTown, can similarly prove his nobility by paying the 150 million fee and be promoted to L9 instantly.

All such money goes to the Town.

So, Paul Jr is a sockpuppet to the Prince of Soul, and was started today by investing 10 BTC. It is well known that the Marquess of Tavastia is my sockpuppet character, but it is not generally known how much money I put into him. His starting capital has been 10,000 CKG and 1,000 EUR. Everyone can evaluate for himself, if Tavastia is as bad a businessman as I always claim him to be Wink
2142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 06, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
The game has been played since it started. It is secondary if there is a web client and how many features it encompasses, because the game is so modular that "all" will never reside in a single place. Playing the game has been both fun and profitable since it started.

As for the answer to your question, we currently have two main projects, of which:

Version 4: Reconstruction will go beta testing any day and release soon after.

Version Ultima is developed by agile/scrum and is always visible how it progresses.

Version 3.0: Pocket Economy is still the official and authoritative gaming platform, and its database is in the Googlesheets.
2143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 06, 2015, 01:47:50 AM
A thing just happened that interrupted the progress of the development for some time...

The Developer Wizard had been staying in the Royal Palace for a while, in relative secrecy. Then the Magnificent Prince of Soul came from his travels to the tranquil grounds of Malla, all of the sudden. He happened to have a bottle of Bordeaux 1970 with him (the name of the château being unrecognizable from the disintegrated label). We set the table in the Throne Room (gross - We know, but it is the only room with windows in the Royal Palace these days....) and proceeded to take turns for ordering bottles from the cellars to be brought for our enjoyment; just between the 3 of us.

Only the vintages reveal that this happened IRL as well as in the game. When the last wine (Le Mole Organic Orange Wine 2012 donated to the table by the Wizard) is still glimmering in the glasses, it is the time to update the thread concerning the decisions:

HE The Prince of Soul, Dr. Paul Choo Ph.D., swears that until 100x from current levels is achieved, he is not cashing out of the game - his God is either giving him financial abundance or a setback, and he is not going to dilute it by his actions. Rather, he is investing 10 BTC more from his fortunes, to show that this is as good a time to invest for real as the last time he bought CKG (4.-17. December 2014).

The Wizard P.J. is moved from the simple yet Royal lifestyle in the Malla Palace, and decides to invest as much as possible from his wages to the game.

The King is a little distracted from the idea of having to drink such many bottles of wine between such few people, but quickly realizes that he is the one who receives the proceeds from the jewels of the cellars. He already decided to strongly favor buying at this point of the development and reaffirms this stance. Crypto Kingdom is either heading to obscurity or success - only the latter case counts for anything, so it makes sense to by more.

We talked about the most undervalued assets and did achieve certain conclusions. It is no accident that the characters King, Tavastia and Soul cornered nearly all of the land already in March. The Town still has some for sale, but it will quickly become the property of the users. It is perhaps not fully understood how limiting the current land size is, as the playercount grows. But soon you will feel it.

Otherwise the meeting was conducted in exuberant terms, but no much details are available except the Oeil de Perdrix...
2144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 09:01:14 PM
Price determination period for silver CKS HAS ENDED.

Final Situation (numbers are trade lots of 25 coins and prices are per lot):

ASK
1 @ 25 Town
1 @ 24 Town
1 @ 23 Town
1 @ 22 Town
1 @ 21 Town
3 @ 20 King
1 @ 20 Town
1 @ 19 Town
1 @ 18 Town
1 @ 17 Town
1 @ 16 Town
1 @ 15 Ramsey
1 @ 15 Town
1 @ 14 Town
1 @ 13 Town
1 @ 12 Ramsey
1 @ 12 Town
1 @ 11 Town
1 @ 10 Ramsey
1 @ 10 Town
1 @ 9 Town
1 @ 8 Town

Matching: 12 @ 16 ; corresponding price 53,333 m/CKS ; CKG/CKS ratio = 1:12.8

BID

1 @ 18 Ale
1 @ 17 Ale
1 @ 16 Ale
9 @ 16 binaryFate
1 @ 16 binaryFate
2 @ 15 Sir Heimo
1 @ 15 Earl noms
1 @ 15 Roopatra
1 @ 14 Earl noms
1 @ 14 King
1 @ 13 Earl noms
1 @ 13 Roopatra
1 @ 12 Roopatra
1 @ 12 King
1 @ 12 Earl noms
1 @ 11 King
1 @ 11 Roopatra
1 @ 11 Earl noms
3 @ 10 Sir Heimo
1 @ 10 Roopatra
1 @ 10 King
2 @ 9 Roopatra
1 @ 9 King
2 @ 8 Roopatra
2 @ 8 King
1 @ 8 Ale
2 @ 7 King
5 @ 6 King
5 @ 5 King
2 @ 5 Haruki
5 @ 4 King
5 @ 4 Haruki
10 @ 3 King
20 @ 2 King
100 @ 1 King
2145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 08:19:57 PM
Items Credit (IC) conversion is now possible

Repair Projects have given IC to people who have had Luxuries in the buildings, but needed to renew the walls behind, which resets the lux% but gives 1 IC for every 200,000 m worth of luxury.

We now close the loophole that IC could be created endlessly from lux that is immediately scrapped. Only old lux, removed as part of the repair project, counts.

It is possible to create everything that was possible in the AIC phase when it was ongoing. Prices are the same. Exception is that it is not possible to get the various discounts, which were available back then. Price of TS160 12-gram silver coin is 6 AIC. All items must be dated 1600 and are not ancient. If any items bring questions, I am happy to help.

Unique items are entered in /ITEMS_U, fungible items in /ITEMS_F and their ownership matrix in /F_OWN. This tab now includes a marketplace as well - every fungible items may be listed for sale or you can bid from them. Also unique Items may be for sale, in the same way as unique Lots have always been for sale.

The 1600 IC cannot expire. When the year changes, the remainder is used to buy TS160 coins, which will always have a market value.

Note that it is possible to buy many items very cheaply in IC terms. Please confirm from the admin how much they want for the registration fee (this is typically a fixed sum per row, and for example my DB access is so bad that I won't register your items even for 5 million per row but hopefully somebody else does Wink )

Soon we will start focusing on horses, carriages and such things. If you want to increase your horse count, remember that a rider kit counts as 1 horse, and carriages come in both 2 and 4 horse model. As for the King's thoughts of the subject - the more horses, the better.
2146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 07:36:48 PM
New Character Wizard Developer P.J. comes to Town!

Strange winds are blowing. The King is again rumored to be scheming with outlandish people. Zenon's Castle had been empty and almost in ruins since the earthquake (and practically always practically empty..) but now it has been repaired with piety and restored to be the strange dwelling it is. Lights have been seen from it in the August night.

To mitigate the most ludicrous rumors - everyone knows there is no end to them - a following notice is read out loud from the Platform and sent in writing to all the literate nobles who live in other boroughs (this number is not many .. )

We, the King rpietila of Crypto Kingdom, etc. etc.,

to my loving people,

Greetings.
Hope you are well as also we are. We want to briefly confirm that indeed the venerable Wizard Developer P.J. has arrived to Town. We don't have wizards here too often, but when we do, they will save us from great troubles. The Wizard is 500 years old and knows mysterious spells that he can skillfully combine to create systems and tools from nothing. It is the same you have seen Us doing, but with double the experience and the result. All the information in the Records is correct. The Wizard is not poor but his wealth in our country does not reflect his great standing yet. He is currently living in the King-owned Wizard Castle (former Zenon castle). We will give to him welcome gifts, and hope that each one of you would also overflow from your goodness to show the traditional generosity of Cryptolanders! We the King donate 100 CKG and 120 CKS in coins that each are different. Once we get to speak more with the Wizard, we can arrange his living conditions according to his preferences.
2147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 06:59:00 PM
Make sure to enter all of your known titles! Wink

My venerable age (and that of most players) is not part of the possible choices on the 'Edit profile' page.

Let's see how fast is the feedback time on this! Smiley

Tell me when it works  Wink
2148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
This thread is for the Ultima technical development. Gameplay belongs to the main thread.

How do we login with are current characters?

Create a new character and add your information. This is test mode, you can add whatever you want, but please add the actual data so that we can practise stuff such as listing according to X etc.
2149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 06:48:03 PM
You can create a new character from the "Register" link. After this you "Login".

You can currently add your own wealth ie. the "edit balances" mode is enabled for the character, which of course would not happen when it's in serious play.

Make sure to enter all of your known titles! Wink
2150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
"Ultima Version First Iteration" is playable.

Discussion concerning it, including technical feedback HERE.


The Ultima Version of CK design was started in June as a response to the V.4 development deviating further and further from the development principles set when CK started:

- Rapid version launch
- Direct access to developer
- Agile development
- Real-time development.

The current release was made in 2.5 workdays. Its database design has taken into account the "final" featureset. The UI and graphics can be changed and/or customized as needed.

The whole length of Ultima project is about 100 workdays. It should be enough for the "complete game" as explained earlier.

We are considering the possibilities whether data could be migrated to the platform significantly earlier.

Please use the newly opened thread for all communication that relates to the Ultima platform. Report actual bugs and errors, avoid to report things that you can reasonably conclude are already in my knowledge, since I will be the hub gathering feedback and directing it to the programmer. For this and the following week, we will be doing this 16/7.
2151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
This thread is for the Ultima technical development. Gameplay belongs to the main thread.
2152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
Price determination period for silver CKS ends today at 21:00 UTC in 3.5 hours.

Current Situation (numbers are trade lots of 25 coins and prices are per lot):

ASK
1 @ 25 Town
1 @ 24 Town
1 @ 23 Town
1 @ 22 Town
1 @ 21 Town
3 @ 20 King
1 @ 20 Town
1 @ 19 Town
1 @ 18 Town
1 @ 17 Town
1 @ 16 Town
1 @ 15 Ramsey
1 @ 15 Town
1 @ 14 Town
1 @ 13 Town
1 @ 12 Ramsey
1 @ 12 Town
1 @ 11 Town
1 @ 10 Ramsey
1 @ 10 Town
1 @ 9 Town
1 @ 8 Town

Matching: 8 @ 14 ; corresponding price 46,667 m/CKS ; CKG/CKS ratio = 1:14.6

BID

1 @ 18 Ale
1 @ 17 Ale
1 @ 16 Ale
2 @ 15 Sir Heimo
1 @ 15 Earl noms
1 @ 14 Earl noms
1 @ 14 King
1 @ 13 Earl noms
1 @ 13 Roopatra
1 @ 12 Roopatra
1 @ 12 King
1 @ 12 Earl noms
1 @ 11 King
1 @ 11 Roopatra
1 @ 11 Earl noms
3 @ 10 Sir Heimo
1 @ 10 Roopatra
1 @ 10 King
2 @ 9 Roopatra
1 @ 9 King
2 @ 8 Roopatra
2 @ 8 King
1 @ 8 Ale
2 @ 7 King
5 @ 6 King
5 @ 5 King
2 @ 5 Haruki
5 @ 4 King
5 @ 4 Haruki
10 @ 3 King
20 @ 2 King
100 @ 1 King
2153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
I didn't understand the ASK/BID previously. I'm not sure i have the silver to sell, so those ASKs may be invalid.


Yes, I think this ask/bid system is quite confusing.


Sorry about that. This is the procedure for opening of the trading day in the exchanges which close for the night.

Later, silver will be bought and sold freely, including in the Queen's Pawnshop.

If you bid "5 @ 5" it means that "I am willing to purchase 5 lots of 25 coins each of 12 grams of silver each coin, at a maximum price of 5 million m per lot".

Same with ask.
2154  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Calling the Bottom on: August 05, 2015, 03:55:16 PM
If the definition of "pwned" is that he is so puzzled about wth is the point of discussion, that he considers that spending the time in the important ongoing projects might be more important than this, yes you are correct.

Have a nice day! Smiley
2155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 03:04:39 PM
Price determination period for silver CKS ends today at 21:00 UTC.

Current Situation (numbers are trade lots of 25 coins and prices are per lot):

ASK
1 @ 25 Town
1 @ 24 Town
1 @ 23 Town
1 @ 22 Town
1 @ 21 Town
3 @ 20 King
1 @ 20 Town
1 @ 19 Town
1 @ 18 Town
1 @ 17 Town
1 @ 16 Town
1 @ 15 Ramsey
1 @ 15 Town
1 @ 14 Town
1 @ 13 Town
1 @ 12 Ramsey
1 @ 12 Town
1 @ 11 Town
1 @ 10 Ramsey
1 @ 10 Town
1 @ 9 Town
1 @ 8 Town

Matching: 7 @ 12 ; corresponding price 40,000 m/CKS ; CKG/CKS ratio = 1:17.0

BID

2 @ 15 Sir Heimo
1 @ 15 Earl noms
1 @ 14 Earl noms
1 @ 13 Earl noms
1 @ 12 Roopatra
1 @ 12 King
1 @ 12 Earl noms
1 @ 11 King
1 @ 11 Roopatra
1 @ 11 Earl noms
3 @ 10 Sir Heimo
1 @ 10 Roopatra
1 @ 10 King
2 @ 9 Roopatra
1 @ 9 King
2 @ 8 Roopatra
2 @ 8 King
2 @ 7 King
5 @ 6 King
5 @ 5 King
2 @ 5 Haruki
5 @ 4 King
5 @ 4 Haruki
10 @ 3 King
20 @ 2 King
100 @ 1 King
(Earl noms naked shorts were detected and erased)
2156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
The Herald from HE The Prince of Soul proclaims:

"My Master is exceedingly glad for having received as much as 2,000 sqm of windows (WIRS) in the recent order. While there is no question whether he could utilize them all and more, he is merciful to smaller holders and is selling small amounts of windows to the needy for 250,000 m/sqm. Not for speculators. Just inform any of the admins for the project and he can tap into these windows. Offer expires when the balance of Prince of Soul WIRS in /F_OWN drops below 800 units."

The Prince of Soul has alleviated the need of windows in town, up to the limit above. This offer is therefore expired.

In IRC, the Marquess of Tavastia picked up the role of being the supplier of urgently needed windows. The price is 350,000 m/sqm and it is valid as long as supplies last (about 400 sqm remaining). This is a market price and there is no restriction on speculation, you are free to buy all of them if you wish!
2157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 01:27:24 PM
The ongoing silver auction is currently giving not much value to the fact that the silver is in the form of ancient silver coins that carry a premium.

- In copper markets, I have volunteered to buy bulk coppers at 0.5 - 1 mil each to no avail, instead the 1300s have sold for 8 - 50 mil each
- In CRxxxx gold coins, the price for a single random coin has been about 1 mil p.o. and even bulk never less than 0.5 mil
- Now we are valuing the silver coins to 0.4 mil, even though they contain recoverable material with a replacement value of 1.0 mil (unlike the gold or copper coins)!

My intention is not to push the price artificially to any direction, but once again provide information about what might be the valuation that is in line with the prices of other stuff.
2158  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Calling the Bottom on: August 05, 2015, 11:53:38 AM
Well, CKG is actually quite little pyramidal, and more like a share. It receives dividends (from the Town surplus), same as every stock in existence. Every game company should pay dividends to its owners.

CK (the game) is pyramidal in the same way real world is - things only have value as long as someone is interested in buying them. The game has everything, and if all the people suddenly decide that they don't want to play any more, the prices collapse. This may happen in the real world as well.
2159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Price determination period for silver CKS ends today at 21:00 UTC.

Current Situation (numbers are trade lots of 25 coins and prices are per lot):

ASK
1 @ 25 Town (at this price you can buy the 1600s coins for yourself)
1 @ 24 Town
1 @ 23 Town
1 @ 22 Town
1 @ 21 Town
3 @ 20 King
1 @ 20 Town
1 @ 19 Town
1 @ 18 Town
1 @ 17 Town
1 @ 16 Town
5 @ 15 Earl noms
1 @ 15 Ramsey
1 @ 15 Town
5 @ 14 Earl noms
1 @ 14 Town
5 @ 13 Earl noms
1 @ 13 Town
1 @ 12 Ramsey
1 @ 12 Town
1 @ 11 Town
1 @ 10 Ramsey
1 @ 10 Town
1 @ 9 Town
1 @ 8 Town (this price gives you 25 large ancient silver coins for 8 mil)

Matching: 4 @ 10 ; corresponding price 33,333 m/CKS ; CKG/CKS ratio = 1:20.4

BID
1 @ 11 King
5 @ 10 Sir Heimo
1 @ 10 Roopatra
1 @ 10 King
2 @ 9 Roopatra
1 @ 9 King
2 @ 8 Roopatra
2 @ 8 King
2 @ 7 King
5 @ 6 King
5 @ 5 King
5 @ 4 King
10 @ 3 King
20 @ 2 King
100 @ 1 King
2160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 05, 2015, 01:11:54 AM
Queen's Pawnshop opening soon

(The queen is not living in CryptoTown, but has lent her name to the Pawnshop, because she likes silver so much.)

After the excellent and immediate success of the King's Coinshop in its automated incarnation, also the shop for silver needs to be opened. As we remember, all kinds of shops have existed since time immemorial, Luigi's stone dealership being one of the originals in 1458 or so.

The amount of gold existing is 1,000 kilos, valued at 681,000 million.

The amount of silver existing is 60 kilos, and we are trying to value it now so that the pricing formulas for the coinshop can be adjusted.

Silver can only be generated from Items Credit (IC). Currently we are in a special situation that IC is technically possible to get by adding luxury to your building and immediately replacing it, which generates IC, convertible to silver. This caps the silver price to the maximum value of 85,125 m/g, which is 1,021,500 m/coin. The coins will be non-ancient 1600 series. There is no information on how long this exploit is available.

Raw silver is an important luxury resource which can easily and cheaply be formed to whatever silver has historically been used, useful or magnificently elaborate items. While its value is backed by nothing, it pays no dividends, and its quantity is not restricted, it cannot be generated out of nothing but has to be converted from IC and the conversion price is related to gold price.

Price determination period for silver CKS

We call a period which ends today at 21:00 UTC for the determination of silver price.

Everyone is invited to participate by submitting buy and sell offers for "trade lots" of CKS. One trade lot is 300 g of silver (25 coins of dates selected by the seller). The trade lot can be converted from IC for about 25.5 million so don't pay more unless you want to pay for the ancientness.

The offers will be added to the solver engine in the order of their submission. In the end of the period, the solver will match the highest buys with the lowest sells, so that the matching price is the price that clears the market (has equal # of lower sells and higher buys, which all are executed at the matching price).

Withdrawing a bid or ask is not allowed. It is allowed, though, to "raise" an existing bid/ask further from the midprice. If there is no mentioning of a raise, we treat it as an additional order.

Unless otherwise specified, the sellers whose order is filled, will sell the coins from the newest onwards, nevertheless so that 2 coins of each type are left. The buyers will have no control over what they get (but approximate equality will be followed).

Needless to say, this is an excellent way to get rid of the stupid silver that is not worth anything, and a similar speech for the buyers to the contrary!  Cheesy

Current Situation (numbers are trade lots of 25 coins and prices are per lot):

ASK
1 @ 25 Town (at this price you can buy the 1600s coins for yourself)
1 @ 24 Town
1 @ 23 Town
1 @ 22 Town
1 @ 21 Town
1 @ 20 Town
1 @ 19 Town
1 @ 18 Town
1 @ 17 Town
1 @ 16 Town
1 @ 15 Town
1 @ 14 Town
1 @ 13 Town
1 @ 12 Town
1 @ 11 Town
1 @ 10 Town
1 @ 9 Town
1 @ 8 Town (this price gives you 25 large ancient silver coins for 8 mil)


BID

5 @ 10 Sir Heimo
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