There's too much to reply to in individual posts without spamming the thread, so it's another "monster post" I'm afraid:
How do you know the whale digger dug those particular addresses,
I can't be sure, but since they were all dug from the same initial distribution block at the same time it is overwhelmingly likely that they were dug by a single entity. The whale digger was working through the initial distribution blocks in reverse order and was working on block 5763 at that time. So it's overwhelmingly likely that he dug those addresses.
and is there a way to find which Bitcoin, Litecoin or Dogecoin addresses correspond to those clam addresses?
Yes. Just replace the CLAM address version byte with the BTC address version byte.
Specifically, for the addresses I listed:
x9NXaGSzxLHjvBbBdmeE2U8dx43Y4XWhfK = 124tgPcXgcohsoVKHJ1ZbHqriwkJchW2P3
xA9338mMFZW43AoQ6rUKpmopi21kYTtMPq = 12qQ9Fvsyr21znhXkNqfPbX3UuiXAvVmiy
xPWEDmTSwiRYb8EKebWJU8f98hwC3vcoLn = 1GCbKtcyfzwWYk8TJ7se2xNMubdxZuzsaB
xEZKQHEUbTyzxfQTD6RSdcoTgYMy8DwYsy = 17FgWQQ1KkVxvHJarcnnCSWgTS4jpeoayt
xPosuwLaxeRHYz1NGYZwDCs5eJ7gMw9tNy = 1GWF24W7gvwFWbuVv4wGn2aJRBpSusRXrM
xNNwmVoLPsRojqbweaBthv2Qt6A85xSN21 = 1F5Jscxs89wmhTW5J6ZEGjjdeyrtmAkbXK
xXL7bZ5sw9XKMt57A7QGAMXqCbNiywm1W2 = 1Q2UhgFQfS3HKVyEodmbjBF3yV5Vd8QDXE
Is there a way to get a list of all the addresses this particular whale digger has already claimed his clams from?
Is there a way to get a list of all the addresses this particular whale digger can potentially claim clams from in the future?
Not with 100% accuracy. We can use clustering tools like walletexplorer.com to find addresses which are likely in the same wallet as the already-dug addresses.
I have searched this thread, the clams website, the clams github, and the internet for a list of the Bitcoin, Litecoin and Dogecoin addresses whose snapshots were used in the clams distribution without success. Is there a list of those distribution addresses available?
I also searched the early blocks in the block explorer, but couldn't find any Bitcoin, Litecoin or Dogecoin addresses. Where are those addresses in the clams blockchain?
It's not a secret. Here's the information:
The specific blocks at which the snapshots were taken:
BTC block 300377 (2014-05-12 12:48:17)
LTC block 565693 (2014-05-12 13:06:31)
DOGE block 218556 (2014-05-12 13:09:17)
All the addresses from all three of those coins received 4.6 CLAMs if they held non-dust amounts at the specified block height.
To convert from BTC/LTC/DOGE address to corresponding CLAM address, replace the version byte from the old address with CLAM's version byte.
Here's Python code that does it for me:
#!/usr/bin/env python
import sys
sys.path.append("/home/chris/Programs/python-bitcoinlib/") # from https://github.com/jgarzik/python-bitcoinlib.git
import bitcoin.base58
def to_addr(addr, magic): return bitcoin.base58.CBase58Data.from_bytes(bitcoin.base58.decode(addr)[1:-4], magic).__str__()
def to_btc(addr): return to_addr(addr, 0x00)
def to_doge(addr): return to_addr(addr, 0x1e)
def to_ltc(addr): return to_addr(addr, 0x30)
def to_clam(addr): return to_addr(addr, 0x89)
def addresses(addr):
return '\n%s\n%s\n%s\n%s\n' % (
'%6s: http://blockchain.info/address/%s' % ('BTC', to_btc(addr)),
'%6s: http://dogechain.info/address/%s' % ('DOGE', to_doge(addr)),
'%6s: http://block-explorer.com/address/%s' % ('LTC', to_ltc(addr)),
'%6s: http://khashier.com/address/%s' % ('CLAM', to_clam(addr)))
for i in sys.argv[1:]:
print addresses(i)
Are you suggesting that Creative, BAC, and I are all the same person? Do you know how silly that makes you look?
Who is Creative ? (slip up on the dev's alt name ??)
She calls herself creativecuriosity, curiouscreativity and such like. I call her Creative for short. BAC is short for BayAreaCoins. People call me "doog" sometimes. It's short for "dooglus". I hope that clarifies any misunderstandings.
Who is who and their socks may one day be determined.. Regardless.. you guys are definitely putting on a show.
You and 42dice both like to run gambling sites and.. you have both like to play with posts and/or PM so as to cause confusion or be misleading.
Coincidence ?
I don't know who or what 42dice is. So yes, probably a coincidence. I also don't know about dash or whatever other distractions you have tried to bring into play. I make posts and send PMs. I don't know what you mean about playing with them or aiming to cause confusion. I use a single account and attempt to be as clear as possible with my communication. You should try it.
Uh, yes! This is public knowledge.
BAC has a campaign to wrest control of the "SuperClams" account from Creative's evil grasp. Or something.
(Klye's art is NSFW.)
I think he prefers the term NSFL. The L stands for Life.
I researched answers to these two queries some more and discovered different coins have a different version byte stored in their address, which explains how a clam address can have the same private key as a bitcoin address, but both addresses will be different. Were the Bitcoin, Litecoin and Dogecoin snapshot addresses converted to clams format before they were placed in the clams blockchain? Is that why I can't find any Bitcoin, Litecoin or Dogecoin addresses in there?
The blockchain doesn't store the addresses, only the 160 bit RIPE-MD hashes of the public keys. It's effectively the address without the version byte or the checksum. So it is identical for BTC and CLAM.
The initial distribution copied the scripts directly from the BTC blockchain without modification.
So yes, you don't find any BTC addresses in the CLAM blockchain, because you don't find *any* addresses in *any* blockchain. Addresses don't exist on blockchains - they are a mirage presented by client software and block explorers to make things more readable.
dooglus i Can see Latest digger Chart
Yes:
I don't know "curious" anymore than the rest of you
While I believe you, I think I would prefer it if I didn't.
Given the choice between you and an uninvolved stranger getting rich from this digging, I think I'd prefer it happened to you.
Did you deliberately fund any addresses at all before taking the snapshot? I imagine the temptation to do so would have been pretty strong.
As for dooglus and I, you caught us.
We are indeed the same person. /s
If you are going to break this news to me, please do it at a time when we are not in the third trimester of a parasite invasion. I've been happily living what i thought was the life of a male, and now I find I'm about to experience the horror of childbirth first hand? No thanks. I reject your reality.
Doesn't cheaper clams just mean more people can afford more to gamble with -- which in turn equals more people interested and playing??
Just trying to bring up a brighter, positive side.
Thanks for trying, but I don't think price really matters. It's the direction in which the price is moving that matters.
No matter what the price is, I can buy $100 worth, gamble, double-up, and sell for $200. The number of CLAMs I get for that $100 is of no importance.
The direction the price moves is very important however. If the price goes down 75% in the time it takes me to double my CLAMs, I end up losing anyway.
Participation has increased dramatically! (from zero to one)
That's a 100% increase...
1 to 2 would be a 100% increase. 0 to 1 is an infinite increase, percentage wise.
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