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1741  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - most popular crowdfunded Bitcoin casino of 2015 on: January 18, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
Nope. Some might, but you don't really need max bet if you have max profit limit. The latter is what really matters to operator/investors. Max bet would be tricky to set up, ie. if it was only 10 BTC, player could bet at x999 and win more than the entire site bankroll, therefore capping max profit is more sensible solution.

PrimeDice has a weird way of doing it. They have a "max payout" of 30 BTC. So if you're betting at 49.5% (2x) the max bet is 15 BTC, but if you're betting at 98% (1.02x) the max bet is close to 30 BTC.

That seems like a really bad idea. There's lots of money to be made (by the house) allowing people to risk 1000 BTC at 98% to win 10 BTC. They will almost always end up losing the 1000 BTC before they win the 10 BTC a hundred times.
1742  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - most popular crowdfunded Bitcoin casino of 2015 on: January 18, 2016, 09:31:43 PM
the leveraged risk thing is a cool feature but i think it puts the site on self-destruct mode. all it takes is a nakowa to enter the ring and things could be wiped out pretty easily since it seems like there has been a +leveraged arms race, lol.

It only puts those who use the feature at risk, not the whole site. You are free to not use 'leverage'.
1743  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 18, 2016, 09:28:50 PM
jadecoin is like a no deposit bonus but with only 1x wagering requirement so if you bet 0.01 jadecoin and you win on 2x payout you will recieve 0.01btc in account Smiley

Do you mean 0.02 BTC?

ie. if I bet 1 JADE at 2x and win, do I end up with:

  * 0 JADE and 2 BTC, or
  * 1 JADE and 1 BTC?
1744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" on: January 18, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
Funny thing about Poisson Processes: Every day you don't stake, you still have 100,000 days to go.

Here's a fun thing:

Pick a random point in time, then:

A) the average amount of time from that point to the next CLAM block is 1 minute
B) the average amount of time from that point to the previous CLAM block is also 1 minute
C) the average time between CLAM blocks is also 1 minute

Wouldn't you expect A + B = C? Yet A, B, and C are all 1 minute.
1745  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Introducing OXT, a tool for Exploratory Blockchain Analysis on: January 18, 2016, 06:11:23 PM
How about having unspent outputs show as an edge like any other, but with the destination node having radius zero, so it looks like an edge going nowhere. Then you can show the size of the unspent output using an arrow on the edge.
What about a smaller node with a different shape ?

Yeah. A small diamond shape, outline only (not filled in), so it is obviously different.
1746  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 18, 2016, 06:09:51 PM
I'm happy to give you a bug bounty - but you're missing the point of the bonus, I think.

Thanks. Can you credit it to my account?

I understand the point of the bonus, but it's annoying to lose more than half of the bonus due to a bug in a game rather than to bad luck or bad play.

Betting in a manner that is unambiguously designed to unlock the bonus is against the rules in almost every casino... We're not doing anything new there.

It would be useful to have a definition for this "unambiguously designed to unlock the bonus" criterion. Everyone who plays wants to unlock the bonus, on some level. Your criterion could be reworded as "if they are trying to unlock it we will cancel it" without changing its meaning much. As it stands, very few people will ever unlock any bonus, and when they do you would have no problem claiming they were playing in a way that was designed to unlock it, and so they can't have it. That isn't fair.

We are changing our Deposit Bonus and adding a risk version. In other words, one in which you bet your deposited amount first, but has a positive EV for players.

That sounds dangerous. People will try to exploit any +EV bonus you offer.

As for the Video Poker, it was a temporary caching issue because we updated the CSS. If you want to cancel the bonus, I can recredit you. Alternatively, if you would like a JadeCoin bonus I can work that out.

I was seeing a 404 error, as in the css file didn't exist.

I cancelled the bonus already.

I'm not sure what JadeCoin is.
1747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" on: January 18, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
wanted to export my transactions but it'll only do the 1st entry.  Is that due to wallet not being fully sync'd ?

Thanxs.  Am I correct in thinking that in order for export to work, wallet needs to be sync'd?   

I'm not sure what you are trying to do exactly. What do you mean by "export my transactions"? What is your goal?
1748  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Introducing OXT, a tool for Exploratory Blockchain Analysis on: January 18, 2016, 02:53:34 AM
Nodes displayed in the graph are transactions and edges are txos (inputs/outputs).

If a txo is unspent, there's no "next" transaction. It implies that unspent outputs don't appear in the graph because an edge needs a source and a target node.

Oh, of course.

I knew there would be an explanation. Smiley

That being said, this is an issue noted in my todo list and for which I'm still looking for a good solution (in term of UX).

How about having unspent outputs show as an edge like any other, but with the destination node having radius zero, so it looks like an edge going nowhere. Then you can show the size of the unspent output using an arrow on the edge.

Edit: I think it would be useful to have the "(unspent)" displayed at all times, not only when moused over. Maybe use a darker colour like #777 or something so it's not too distracting, but still noticeable.
1749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" on: January 17, 2016, 11:34:29 PM
trying to sync up my wallet and have been stuck for 3 days now @ Wed Sep 30 17:58:40 2015.  blocks : 665942

version: v1.4.17

connections: 4

wanted to export my transactions but it'll only do the 1st entry.  Is that due to wallet not being fully sync'd ?


A few pages back is the bootstrap file that dooglus updates weekly. It will shorten your sync time to hours rather than days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191 is the bootstrap post.

I update it whenever I remember it. The last time was about 12 hours ago I guess, so it's pretty up to date.

I don't know why the client gets stuck syncing the chain over the p2p network, but numerous people have reported that it does.

Xploited is working on a new version of the client which will hopefully fix the problem.
1750  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Introducing OXT, a tool for Exploratory Blockchain Analysis on: January 17, 2016, 10:13:59 PM
This is an interesting tool.

I was just playing with it, and found a node I couldn't expand fully.

https://oxt.me/graph/transaction/tiid/513316177 -- txid 7ea549d6503d18a35bc5254bc03594db57ec59c6197dab6a442e996588706006

It has 8 inputs (all shown) and 6 outputs (of which only 4 are shown). The biggest output isn't shown, and it only shows 2 of the three ~64 BTC outputs.

Any idea why?



Edit: This one too is missing a bunch of outputs: https://oxt.me/graph/transaction/tiid/512934694

It only shows two of the four 91 BTC outputs.
1751  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 17, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Happened to me too, but  I thought it was just bc I was drunk.

They have fixed the bug now:



But I don't see a refund or bug bounty in my account.

I wonder how many people lost real money to this bug. Lucky for me I was only playing with no-deposit bonus money. But I would still like it refunded.

Edit: forget that. I don't need it refunded. There is no way I have the patience to play 888 times through 15 BTC when the max bet is 1 BTC. That means making 12000 max bets or something. I'm 0.35% of the way through and am already tired of it.
1752  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: January 17, 2016, 07:51:10 PM
Mycelium-Coinapult accounts can only contain US$. They call it dollar-pegged bitcoins, but that is just a nice name for it.

It sounds like you are saying that dollar-pegging your bitcoins is just another name for selling your BTC for USD and storing the USD on a third party site. ie. a bad idea in general.

If Mycelium shuts down, you still have access to the bitcoins in your wallet, but if Coinapult shuts down, presumably you lose any "pegged" bitcoins you were storing with them. Is that right?
1753  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 01:29:41 AM
I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.

0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

OK, thanks, that makes sense.

Charge a fee on withdrawals so you still have a way of making up the shortfall while simultaneously encouraging people to leave their coins with you so a) your insolvency is less likely to become apparent and b) if it all goes wrong you have more coins to exit scam with.


I remember after MtGox went belly up there was a lot of noise made about requiring exchanges to do regular proof-of-solvency audits. Whatever happened to this? Is it still standard practice for exchanges to just ask their clients to trust that they are solvent?
1754  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 01:20:56 AM
Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.
1755  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: free private key for some BTC dust on: January 17, 2016, 12:34:14 AM
Couldn't someone have just imported the 1HKnuXP3RZDLjHPuDcj4EzaDtEH94FMbgB into there wallet and then used it as an input in there next transaction they were going to make anyway therefore it paying 7740 sat of the 10,00 sat miner fee that they were going to have to pay to send any BTC anyway?

Yes they could. But maybe they wanted to claim it before anyone else did, idk.

Noob question here, but i thought that privkeys always started with a 5, what am i missing here?

"compressed" private keys begin with a K or L,
"uncompressed" private keys begin with a 5.

Check it out by playing about in the 'wallet details' tab on bitaddress.org:

1756  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 17, 2016, 12:06:40 AM
I just tried the video poker game.

It doesn't work very well. There is no way of telling which cards are held and which aren't. Possibly because the link to the bootstrap code is a 404.

I found through experimentation that I could hold cards by clicking on them once. There is no graphical representation that the cards are held, but when I make the 2nd deal the cards I clicked on don't change.

Except when I get a good starting hand. I got two pairs, clicked on the 4 paired cards, redealt, and they all changed!

I guess what was happening was that the game was auto-holding the two pairs for me, and my clicks were un-holding them.

Sigh. What a mess.

This just cost me 10.5 BTC from my bonus.

It is possible to see that clicking the cards changes something by inspecting the card element.

When a card isn't held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" has class ng-hide):



And when it is held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" isn't hidden):



Here's the error I see in the console which may or not be connected to this bug (the bootstrap css isn't found):



I guess I'll have to cancel the bonus now that I've lost almost all of it figuring out what was going on with this broken game. Sad
1757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: free private key for some BTC dust on: January 16, 2016, 11:01:04 PM
Well, someone took it, and paid more in fees claiming it than the dust was worth:

1758  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 16, 2016, 09:52:39 PM
Also, what is the situation re. playing poker while I have an uncleared bonus?

The bonus isn't accessible while playing poker, so if I make a profit in poker does it go into my regular balance such that I still have it if I cancel the bonus?

That would make the most sense, since when I risk chips in poker I am risking non-bonus chips, so any profit should be considered outside of the bonus. Right?
1759  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: January 16, 2016, 09:50:54 PM
I can't remember which casino does this off the top of my head, but this is a pretty common addition to the terms - albeit ours is admittedly a bit under-defined.

For example - user gets a 'big win' and then bets on lower odds to clear his bonus. That user is thereby disqualified. Our system just adjusts the stake amount put toward the rollover based on the odds, so we don't have to be quite that heavy handed, but the fact remains that there are entire portals dedicated to 'beating' bonuses. If someone is using these methods, we put it before a security review team and everyone looks at the findings. Usually it's pretty obvious.

You have a 388x wagering requirement. There's no way of "beating" that without getting very lucky.

If someone bets at 95% chance of winning to get through the WR quicker, I don't see how that is in any way "abusive". And if you do, you need to say up front that bets at 95% chance or higher aren't allowed when clearing the bonus. Otherwise you're the ones being abusive by being unclear about your rules.

I don't think I got an answer to this.

Can you be clear about what bets are allowed while working on a bonus and which are not? I would hate to work through the bonus, get amazingly lucky and clear it without going bust, and then have you disqualify me because I broke some unwritten rule.

So how about you make the rules explicit up front? All I have so far is that anyone who "bets on lower odds to clear his bonus" is disqualified. What is the line below which odds are too low? Are there any games which are safe to play without risking disqualification?
1760  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 08:39:12 PM
If anyone dropped the ball, maybe Mullick... he always struck me as a shady character... he was in charge of wallets and almost certainly knew about the theft 18 months ago...

Mullick fixed the backdoor in a public fork of the lucky7coin repo. in April 2015.

If the hack happened in July 2014 why did Mullet wait until April of 2015 to fix the lucky7 wallet code on github?  I believe cryptsy had lucky7 listed the entire time did they not?

https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779

It is also worth noting that this github commit is more than a month after Dooglus pointed out the issue https://github.com/alerj78/lucky7coin/issues/1

One possible explanation is that he was trying to hide any evidence of having been hacked and so he fixed the backdoor in a private copy of the repository. But when he noticed that I had published details of the backdoor it would look bad if he didn't respond by fixing it publicly.

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