Community: Professional approach (gain/big investiment)
Lol you really consider this community professional?? The only ones working on Kore are Mike and Eurbids. We are just looking. Let them discuss their things  |
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I don't know Mike, maybe I mistake but I feeling that you try to find any reason for make a querrel.
If you have changed idea and maybe want to move your project to another coin, you are free to do it without problems and without tell bad things here. All community will understand you, and I'm sure will be with you.
It's obvious those still left here would rather stay here.The best way to solve this problem is, IMHO, that Eurbids decide to accept the helping hand offering him by Mike (trusted dev's team).
For example about the chat feature, Mike's team could start now to develop it... When it's ready, they will send to Eurbids for a regular check/valuation.
The release's time will be very reduced the KorePhone can continue to grow and the community will see EDIT: Somewhat regular updates.
Eurbids,
Take a look at this idea Pala suggested above.Kore's tech of VoIP is no longer just kore's as other coins have VoIP now. It's not that we are giving you help since you are busy with kore 3.0 Could you then consider this approach? WE know it would mean giving us the full source code BUT You are never going to do any more updates to it anyway by making a new entire coin. The Only thing needed is an inclusion of chat and a working Phone Book for public adoption. By a miracle maybe KoreSurf. We don't have the time to do much else anyway being we are so busy on the korephone OS. What do you think? MM EDIT: Pala, Excellent suggestion. Thanks for thinking outside the box.  |
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This is the same conversation over and over and over again with the same result, the DEV neglecting the community and refusing to communicate. Why even ask about the coin at all? I was the bad guy for saying all this months ago. The problem is the same as it has been, inaction and perhaps incompetence by Eurbids.
Well one "Other thing" is consistent. Your lies. Can't help yourself I see. |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set
there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i dont think it is bad to let someting set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all the viewpoints together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesent lead anywhere ou and i changet the word "ideas" with the word "viewpoints" above No worries, There's much you don't know. I'm glad he eventually dealt with it properly however there's no sense putting everyone through this toxic way of doing/dealing with the Community when a simple weekly update could eliminate the entire issue and he knows it. It's quite selfish to do what he's doing... |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set
there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i don't think it is bad to let something set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all ideas together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesn't lead anywhere Again, I do not agree though don't blame you for having the view you do and respect you expressing it. There's much you are not aware of and I'm not going to "spare" the Community any longer only dealing in PM's with Eurbids. The Community has the right to know. I do agree in the process though exactly as you stated it. BUT only those baking the bread know when that time is... |
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I don't know Mike, maybe I mistake but I feeling that you try to find any reason for make a quarrel.
If you have changed idea and maybe want to move your project to another coin, you are free to do it without problems and without tell bad things here. All community will understand you, and I'm sure will be with you.
Denial, is NOT a River in Egypt... Do you really think I like to quarrel? You should know me by now. I only take fud, BS, Lies and Irresponsibility to task and I care about those in the Community, the coin, korephone and You. Thanks for understanding IF we did decide to go elsewhere BUT it's not me that's the cause, and I have to answer to those in the Community and those working on the KorePhone now as well. Maybe take the time and have a really good translator translate all my recent posts so you "Get It" and there are no misunderstandings. You have no idea where we are going with the KorePhone and since you refuse to answer my PM's to talk about it and live up to our arrangement to "Talk about ALL the Future". I understand it was to be after POBA and then BETA but IF we waited on you the KorePhone would not have happened. As I said before we would always be loyal to the Kore Community. I could not just pack up and leave. It wouldn't be right and the whole reason the KorePhone is becoming a Reality is because of YOU and our meeting here. Sure I had a similar idea years ago but this is what made it happen a unique coming together of the right people at the right time. |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set
there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. Poor Eurbids and poor me and poor Community wasted all this time and energy for something so easy to do. It reminds me of someone who does not want to work. They work harder at trying not to let people catch them than the effort it is to just do the right thing. MM |
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hmmmm ... ok i see, that's a statement.... so you don't give a fuck....i mean i have no problem with it, i did no big investment in it, im just here because i feel your are an honest person.... i just like the community here. .....
......But!!!! you posted your happy that you lost thorns behind and now your like "if you guys don't respect my authority you will have to deal with the consequence, just shut up, I have the power, and I do like I want because I am the KING, and you guys have to obey because without me you are nothing "
But no, maybe it's a misunderstanding. I'm not the King. But I want that people respect my self and wait without still everyday to irritate me with requests about the new release. It's all. Always quarrel here because they want that I will how they wish. And always the problems on the base is the speculation. I don't agree to this, I've already prove many times about my dedication to this coin, I don't must to prove it everyday or everyweek. Eurbids, Thanks for your detailed respectful reply and I do know there have been many times the translation process has made it seem you were saying something entirely different. Unfortunately alt coins are the home mostly to speculators. Even some who say they are long term lie. I do understand there are many PM'ing you and it could be a few a day so don't blame you for getting sick and tired of it. that's why I suggested to just give a hello once a week. I can also understand it SEEMS like you have to answer to people. Maybe try to look at it differently even if the only way you can to do it to shut people up and it will since we all would have that weekly post to show people what's up with the Dev till the next weekly post. I've been trying to help though it might not seem that way. MM |
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I don't care about this type of people. Here all want and ask, like it's a must to give something.
Happy to lost this thorns in the side.
IMHO I think that the "6 months or a little before", is only the "total time" necessary for complete "KoreCoin3.0 - The Evolution" project (Anon Marketplace, stealth address, Telco Gateway, embedded secure browser, embedded secure mail, etc...).
I think new features will be released on the way.
I'm interested too about KoreCard and Poba.
Yes of course. I don't need 6 months for the first release. I told around 6 months for the full wallet features in list.Eurbids, Unfortunately that's how people are starting to view you. As a thorn in the side of KoreCoin. I have quotes to prove it so this is only my observation of what other people are saying and they are the ones who have stuck with you and supported you above all others. Surely you can muster up a more professional and caring response. After all there is a measure of responsibility in being a Dev for a coin and what people are asking for is not asking too much
for you to just check in once a week.I do understand it seems like it's forcing you to make a release so don't take it the wrong way. This is very much funny. Without me this coin was already under 6 meters of ground. And that is what will happen if people continue to crash balls. I want to remember to this people that I'm not an employee. My interesting about this coin is like amateur. I don't FEAR of short time speculators, I only don't have interesting about it because I not care of the coin value. Now if community don't like my job, it's very simple way, CHANGE COIN Eurbids, It's not funny. You have more than been given proper credit and appreciation for your excellent work in saving KoreCoin and we can only hope you come through on this latest promise of Kore 3.0. You might want to be considerate of the fine Kore Community that more than helped you out. Your track record has not been the greatest lately but those remaining have been more than understanding that you will not waste your time on BS tech that will not give the desired results and the tech has been changing constantly. That being said ones have expressed by your conduct and thread posts and PM's you've taken the Community on a ride the last few months. Crashing balls is what you prefer not me. What I do have is the guts to tell you the truth. All the Community is asking for is common courtesy and respect which we all realize are not your strong points but we still believe you can do the right thing since you have shown you could do it in times past. You can point the finger any which way you want. BUT there are more pointing back at yourself. There is no-one else to blame. Sincerely, MM |
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yeah...this could eventually make the price going up...coz vpn coin becomes rarer now. Perfect ... from now on the price can only go up but we really need a good PR team and a good "how to" becouse i see a lot of people that dont really know how to use the VPN functions . If all this comes with now good exchange like poloniex or bter (this is a chinese coin i dunno why dev didnt list the coin on bter untill now) ... When all chinese will see this coin and undestand that is a way to pass theyr problem with banned sites this coin will become more and more stable + the SuperNet . Yes, we can't visit Google, Twitter, Facebook and many other international sites, VPN in China has a great market. What's ironic is those three sites are the biggest data collectors and abuse of that data manipulating it and handing it over to anyone who wants it. You're not born in China, You're not Chinese, Else, you will understand  I do feel for you but you're right. There's no way I could understand fully. I guess it's the same for us both...  |
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yeah...this could eventually make the price going up...coz vpn coin becomes rarer now. Perfect ... from now on the price can only go up but we really need a good PR team and a good "how to" becouse i see a lot of people that dont really know how to use the VPN functions . If all this comes with now good exchange like poloniex or bter (this is a chinese coin i dunno why dev didnt list the coin on bter untill now) ... When all chinese will see this coin and undestand that is a way to pass theyr problem with banned sites this coin will become more and more stable + the SuperNet . Yes, we can't visit Google, Twitter, Facebook and many other international sites, VPN in China has a great market. What's ironic is those three sites are the biggest data collectors and abuse of that data manipulating it and handing it over to anyone who wants it. |
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i think as it mostly allways the truth is somewhere in the middle
i see both aspeckt, while mike is concernd about promotion you eurbids think that people hawe to hawe faith in your work and just let doing your thing
...the problem is you fear short time speculators but people how want to invest in a coin (long term )
fear devs that drop the coin, if you just dont give a fuck about the comiunity the comiunity will not give a fuck about you...ok you can live with it and say you dont care ...but you lose because of you`r ego or of you`r
despite... there should be some balance ...nobody whant you to post every day... but every now and then would be nice... saying hello im still here... i mean your bilding a coin that helps people comiunicate so ...its kind of ironical if you don`t (comiunicate)
Couldn't have said it any better Bingo! Everyone here and looking to evaluate KoreCoin sees the problem clearly. It's whether Eurbids will do the right thing is all. |
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I don't care about this type of people. Here all want and ask, like it's a must to give something.
Happy to lost this thorns in the side.
IMHO I think that the "6 months or a little before", is only the "total time" necessary for complete "KoreCoin3.0 - The Evolution" project (Anon Marketplace, stealth address, Telco Gateway, embedded secure browser, embedded secure mail, etc...).
I think new features will be released on the way.
I'm interested too about KoreCard and Poba.
Yes of course. I don't need 6 months for the first release. I told around 6 months for the full wallet features in list.Eurbids, Unfortunately that's how people are starting to view you. As a thorn in the side of KoreCoin. I have quotes to prove it so this is only my observation of what other people are saying and they are the ones who have stuck with you and supported you above all others. Surely you can muster up a more professional and caring response. After all there is a measure of responsibility in being a Dev for a coin and what people are asking for is not asking too much
for you to just check in once a week.I do understand it seems like it's forcing you to make a release so don't take it the wrong way. |
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No Mike, you mistake.
It's not me that had create this situation. It's people that don't have sufficient patience,
and speculators that fear to lost money that create situations like this. Me don't have do nothing.
I'm still in my place and work to my tasks.
I agree about the Speculators. We both see them the same way but we all know some
responsibility rests on your shoulders.
About your KorePhone's requests I don't know about what you talk, I've never receive requests from you or from the Team.
If you talk about the bugfix of ALPHA, I don't have time to work to the older release. I'm sure that KorePhone will work fine without it too.
I still have them in my sent box as well as someone else trying to contact you.
You will receive them in the next hours so please do respond in a timely manner.
Thanks for giving the Kore Community some ltittle details about your goals and work.
Please try to pop in and say hello at least once a week.
The Community and Coin deserve it and by doing so it will stop these situations
from developing.
The Kore 2.0 developing are official closed right now. The future is on the 3.0 Revolution.
I wish you well on your work and hope you will make a commitment to post at least once a week. Best~ MM |
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snipeed...
my to 2 words on this
...anyway hawe a great day
You're welcome to your opinion. snipped.... Most Sincerely, MM Sum up. You can bore a stone snipped.... What would you contribute? My long windedness is for the record... What are your thoughts on the matter? MM Mike you're the only one working on daily basis on KORE but that doesnt mean you can talk bullshit about Eurbids. I think you should keep working and forget about Eurbids. I've not mentioned one thing that was BS. I can't "Forget" about Eurbids when his actions/inaction severely
negatively effects the Kore Community as many have left already and our personal work on the KorePhone. I suppose Eurbids is coding while buying and to dont communicate with the community is part of it's strategy to spend more time coding/ with his family/ buying cheaper. Everybody knows Eurbids is not gonna say anything until he (think he) can release something. Those days are long gone. He's lost much respect and trust solely caused by him.I dont think is a good idea to be asking everyday where eurbids is or if he has any update to make. He said 6 months. He's using the times of a company not the times we are used to in the cryptoworld. For a company, 6 updates in 6 months is a lot. That's one update per month. Expect that. (My opinion) It brings me no pleasure to be forced to encourage Eurbids to simply do what he should be doing
on a regular basis especially for how they have supported his efforts and work on the coin.That being said... I don't blame you for your observations but your PM box is not full of ones telling you they are leaving the coin and asking why Eurbids treats the Community the way he does coupled with my personal observations and interactions. It's my sole desire to see KoreCoin reach it's full potential and work for the benefit of the Kore Community. MM |
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I suppose Eurbids is coding while buying and to dont communicate with the community is part of it's strategy
to spend more time coding/ with his family/ buying cheaper.
Everybody knows Eurbids is not gonna say anything until he (think he) can release something.
I dont think is a good idea to be asking everyday where eurbids is or if he has any update to make. He said 6 months.
He's using the times of a company not the times we are used to in the cryptoworld. For a company, 6 updates in 6 months is a lot.
That's one update per month. Expect that. (My opinion)
Finally a sensate( sensible) post. I don't answer to people because I've nothing to answer. From the start I always told that WHEN I've an UPDATE I will publish it. I don't MUST to answer to people only because they ask. And much more they ask much more I coming to be irritate. I told that I still to working on the new release 3.0 BUT I don't told that I work on it fulltime. I need 6 months for release it and soon I will start to publish something." Soon"You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means".Develop a new wallet it's not like devel a website, that you can show little to little every day. And I've never changed my point, from the first day here I always told the same things. And the community don't still without news. Many news everyday about the KorePhone, from the Kore Team. Anyway it's a Kore-Project, who work on it it's irrilevant. It's my idea solely funded by me personally and we asked you
to implement it as part of the KoreCoin Platform.Now wish Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the community. See you on 2015. Eurbids, If you don't have patience, I can pity for you, but it's not my business. You did mention you would be posting progress and releases along the way not needing to wait the 6-months before a release is made so it's not asking too much after over 2-months time to ask how things are going. You are the one who has created this situation by not answering and when you did say something it gave the Community who were watching a bad view of yourself, your willingness to cooperate with the Community in a responsible professional respectful way that a Dev should. Though I'm happy to see you post with decency and some information. The fact you are also not responding to the Kore Team's questions concerning implementing the KorePhone, something you promised to work together on is again an action/inaction by you that denotes a lack of promised cooperation. Please answer the PM's sent you by the Kore Team concerning preliminary questions on implementation of the KorePhone. They were sent to you a few times about a month ago. MM |
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snipeed...
my to 2 words on this
...anyway hawe a great day
You're welcome to your opinion. snipped.... Most Sincerely, MM Sum up. You can bore a stone snipped.... What would you contribute? My long windedness is for the record... What are your thoughts on the matter? MM |
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Why Eurbids doesn't pass on the dev's torch to MikeMike?
Thanks for your kind words but my position would remain the same on the Kore Team. I'm not a Dev. I'm an idea person among other hats I wear. Plus it's the Communities Coin. We would need to find a trusted skilled Dev. I have some connections but we need to hear what Eurbids has to say. Eurbids silence That is an answer Though periods of 2 1/2 weeks at most are common from Eurbids he's been checking in every few days or more so I presume he knows what's going on. Kind of strange don't ya think... Why would he be checking in all the time if he had no concern or interest. Most scam dev's just leave a coin. Sure as with most about the KorePhone AEther OS they want to steal it... It won't be worth the effort as many will be finding out the hard way. Tough one... Problem is he's created a "No Confidence" situation whereby many had already left. There's so much promise. It just for the average person does not make sense... |
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Why Eurbids doesn't pass on the dev's torch to MikeMike?
Thanks for your kind words but my position would remain the same on the Kore Team. I'm not a Dev. I'm an idea person among other hats I wear. Plus it's the Communities Coin. We would need to find a trusted skilled Dev. I have some connections but we need to hear what Eurbids has to say. Remember, You don't have to ask permission. Yes I do, It's the respectful thing to do and it's not a decision I can make.
The Kore Community has to make that decision AND back it up with their hard work.
First we need to be patient for Eurbids reply. IF he does not in a few days the
Community can vote on it and Eurbids should make a decision.but will honor the old bagholder. All address balances will be added on the block1
You can protect community kore investiment Again it's a decision Only the Kore Community can make and the Community
would need to work together to better Kore. |
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Why Eurbids doesn't pass on the dev's torch to MikeMike?
Thanks for your kind words but my position would remain the same on the Kore Team. I'm not a Dev. I'm an idea person among other hats I wear. Plus it's the Communities Coin. We would need to find a trusted skilled Dev. I have some connections but we need to hear what Eurbids has to say. |
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