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December 24, 2014, 11:46:48 AM |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. Poor Eurbids and poor me and poor Community wasted all this time and energy for something so easy to do. It reminds me of someone who does not want to work. They work harder at trying not to let people catch them than the effort it is to just do the right thing. MM
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Eurbids (OP)
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December 24, 2014, 12:01:30 PM |
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I don't know Mike, maybe I mistake but I feeling that you try to find any reason for make a querrel.
If you have changed idea and maybe want to move your project to another coin, you are free to do it without problems and without tell bad things here. All community will understand you, and I'm sure will be with you.
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MikeMike
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December 24, 2014, 12:36:18 PM |
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I don't know Mike, maybe I mistake but I feeling that you try to find any reason for make a quarrel.
If you have changed idea and maybe want to move your project to another coin, you are free to do it without problems and without tell bad things here. All community will understand you, and I'm sure will be with you.
Denial, is NOT a River in Egypt... Do you really think I like to quarrel? You should know me by now. I only take fud, BS, Lies and Irresponsibility to task and I care about those in the Community, the coin, korephone and You. Thanks for understanding IF we did decide to go elsewhere BUT it's not me that's the cause, and I have to answer to those in the Community and those working on the KorePhone now as well. Maybe take the time and have a really good translator translate all my recent posts so you "Get It" and there are no misunderstandings. You have no idea where we are going with the KorePhone and since you refuse to answer my PM's to talk about it and live up to our arrangement to "Talk about ALL the Future". I understand it was to be after POBA and then BETA but IF we waited on you the KorePhone would not have happened. As I said before we would always be loyal to the Kore Community. I could not just pack up and leave. It wouldn't be right and the whole reason the KorePhone is becoming a Reality is because of YOU and our meeting here. Sure I had a similar idea years ago but this is what made it happen a unique coming together of the right people at the right time.
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heureca
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December 24, 2014, 01:01:53 PM Last edit: December 24, 2014, 01:19:05 PM by heureca |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i dont think it is bad to let someting set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all the viewpoints together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesent lead anywhere
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MikeMike
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December 24, 2014, 01:24:25 PM |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i don't think it is bad to let something set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all ideas together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesn't lead anywhere Again, I do not agree though don't blame you for having the view you do and respect you expressing it. There's much you are not aware of and I'm not going to "spare" the Community any longer only dealing in PM's with Eurbids. The Community has the right to know. I do agree in the process though exactly as you stated it. BUT only those baking the bread know when that time is...
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heureca
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December 24, 2014, 02:38:02 PM |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i don't think it is bad to let something set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all ideas together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesn't lead anywhere Again, I do not agree though don't blame you for having the view you do and respect you expressing it. There's much you are not aware of and I'm not going to "spare" the Community any longer only dealing in PM's with Eurbids. The Community has the right to know. I do agree in the process though exactly as you stated it. BUT only those baking the bread know when that time is... why you dont wanna "spare" the community no longer... i thing it was quite positiv people can now see there is something going on, eurbids made his poind and showen up, you made your point ... i think It was important to discusse the problem in public... its transparent...
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heureca
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December 24, 2014, 02:44:24 PM |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i dont think it is bad to let someting set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all the viewpoints together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesent lead anywhere ou and i changet the word "ideas" with the word "viewpoints" above
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MikeMike
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December 24, 2014, 02:54:29 PM |
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the thing is we are now rotating the problem again and again i would sugest to lett the spoken set there is nothing big to do .... everybody has some talends i see eurbids has talend in coading but dosent like to comunicate that much, mike you like to promote and comunicate... so ... the rolles are given ...now we just hawe to find some balance
Well said, But I do not agree and there's nothing wrong with people making some slight changes that will go a long way and even be the proper fix to the problem. i dont think it is bad to let someting set... its like making bread... you start making the dough ( throw all the viewpoints together) and the you let it set ....its part of the process if we start now getting to personal and start to blame ...(you and you and you thing) it doesent lead anywhere ou and i changet the word "ideas" with the word "viewpoints" above No worries, There's much you don't know. I'm glad he eventually dealt with it properly however there's no sense putting everyone through this toxic way of doing/dealing with the Community when a simple weekly update could eliminate the entire issue and he knows it. It's quite selfish to do what he's doing...
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Pala_00
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December 24, 2014, 02:58:14 PM Last edit: December 24, 2014, 03:10:28 PM by Pala_00 |
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IMHO we need to wait more time.I working on a new release of KoreCoin. It's calling "KoreCoin 3.0 - The Evolution". It will start over the blockchain, but will honor the old bagholder. All address balances will be added on the block1, but not 1:1. Kore3 will start with a more big price and I will look for equipoise the value.
The new version will not a simple wallet, but a real secure and anonymous enviroment. The final vision is that people open his computer, open the wallet and don't need nothing more.
KoreCoin 3.0 will have a new long POW period and maybe NO POS.
KoreCoin 3.0 will have a new wallet layout KoreCoin 3.0 will support the stealth address and voice calls through VoIP, with a TELCO gateway. Maybe the Video too but for now I'm not sure. KoreCoin 3.0 will have a embedded secure browser, that working through the embedded TOR. KoreCoin 3.0 will have a embedded secure email client, that working through the embedded TOR. And the users will have the possibility to buy a @korecoin.org address KoreCoin 3.0 will have a dedicate tab that point to an anonymous marketplace, always through the embedded TOR.
And it's not all. I've many more ideas to add, but I don't want to tell it for now.
This will happen in the next six months or a little before
It is more than a month since Kore 3.0 news...so 1/6 passed (without news). Maybe in the next month (2/6) he will release some news (maybe). IMHO I think that the "6 months or a little before", is only the "total time" necessary for complete "KoreCoin3.0 - The Evolution" project (Anon Marketplace, stealth address, Telco Gateway, embedded secure browser, embedded secure mail, etc...).
I think new features will be released on the way.
I'm interested too about KoreCard and Poba.
Yes of course. I don't need 6 months for the first release. I told around 6 months for the full wallet features in list.
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Alisho
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December 24, 2014, 03:26:34 PM |
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Guys.. my advice is to make a Slack channel for korecoin. It's a lot better to communicate there instead of here.. and the best thing is everyone can help who has an interest in this coin.
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Pala_00
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December 24, 2014, 03:33:58 PM |
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Guys.. my advice is to make a Slack channel for korecoin. It's a lot better to communicate there instead of here.. and the best thing is everyone can help who has an interest in this coin.
The best thing that permits Kore members to communicate is a simple chat client embedded in the wallet.
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Azure
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December 24, 2014, 03:41:09 PM |
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No Mike, you mistake.
It's not me that had create this situation. It's people that don't have sufficient patience, and speculators that fear to lost money that create situations like this. Me don't have do nothing. I'm still in my place and work to my tasks.
About your KorePhone's requests I don't know about what you talk, I've never receive requests from you or from the Team. If you talk about the bugfix of ALPHA, I don't have time to work to the older release. I'm sure that KorePhone will work fine without it too.
The Kore 2.0 developing are official closed right now. The future is on the 3.0 Revolution.
Perhaps you somehow missed it then. Check your PMs again from a while back.
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Azure
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December 24, 2014, 03:45:07 PM Last edit: December 24, 2014, 04:06:18 PM by Azure |
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i think as it mostly allways the truth is somewhere in the middle i see both aspeckt, while mike is concernd about promotion you eurbids think that people hawe to hawe faith in your work and just let doing your thing ...the problem is you fear short time speculators but people how want to invest in a coin (long term ) fear devs that drop the coin, if you just dont give a fuck about the comiunity the comiunity will not give a fuck about you...ok you can live with it and say you dont care ...but you lose because of you`r ego or of you`r despite... there should be some balance ...nobody whant you to post every day... but every now and then would be nice... saying hello im still here... i mean your bilding a coin that helps people comiunicate so ...its kind of ironical if you don`t (comiunicate)
Couldn't have said it any better +1 for stating things as they are... and, Eurbids, that is not to say that constructive criticism is a personal attack so please don't view it as such. It is simply pointing out the reality of the situation and to allow for a potential 'correction of course'.
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Azure
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December 24, 2014, 03:54:01 PM Last edit: December 24, 2014, 04:26:59 PM by Azure |
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hmmmm ... ok i see, thats a statement.... so you dont give a fuck....i mean i hawe no problem with it, i did no big investment in it, im just here because i feel your ar a honest person.... i just like the comiunity here. .....
......But!!!! you postet your happy that you lost throns behind and now your like "if you guys dont respect my authorety you will hawe to deal with the consequence, just shut up, I hawe the power, and I do like I want because I am the KING, and you guys hawe to obey because without me you are nothing "
But no, maybe it's a misunderstanding. I'm not the King. But I want that people respect my self and wait without still everyday to irritate me with requests about the new release. It's all. Always querrel here because they want that I will how they wish. And always the problems on the base is the speculation. I don't agree to this, I've already prove many times about my dedication to this coin, I don't must to prove it everyday or everyweek. Speaking from my perspective: I respect you, Eurbids; I always have. It's just some of your (recent) actions that I have less respect for (compared to your past actions which I do have more respect for.) I always respect people though. Actions are another matter, and the two are very separate things to me. If you are feeling pressured then please just tell the community (as you are now); it would have been nice if you could have said that a bit earlier though. It is simply a matter of people being able to know why you do things or do not do things. I don't expect you to post every day. Perhaps once a week, as Mike suggests, might be a good idea though.
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heureca
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December 24, 2014, 04:03:21 PM |
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Guys.. my advice is to make a Slack channel for korecoin. It's a lot better to communicate there instead of here.. and the best thing is everyone can help who has an interest in this coin.
The best thing that permits Kore members to communicate is a simple chat client embedded in the wallet. +1 for both of the ideas... but a chat in the wallet would be a nice feature
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Azure
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December 24, 2014, 04:30:39 PM |
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Eurbids, as a suggestion, in order to attempt to 'get us all on the same page': Would you be willing to update us every 10-12 days? Just a little something to say, "things are progressing", etc, or something, or even just a "hi, I'm still around", etc... ? What do you think? Is that "too much to ask" or does it sound reasonable to you?
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Pala_00
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December 24, 2014, 04:57:48 PM Last edit: December 24, 2014, 05:22:24 PM by Pala_00 |
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The big difference is between the pricipal project visions.
Eurbids: Amateur approach (free time/no coins?)
Community/Investors: Professional approach (gain/big investiment)
Obviously, this paradigms cannot coexist side by side.
It is not possible, in fact, to solve complex problems by just approaching them from one side.
The best way to solve this problem is, IMHO, that Eurbids decide to accept the helping hand offering him by Mike (trusted dev's team).
For example about the chat feature, Mike's team could start now to develop it... When it's ready, they will send to Eurbids for a regular check/valuation.
The release's time will be very reduced, the KorePhone can continue to grow and the community will see many updates every week.
...And they lived happily ever after...
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December 24, 2014, 05:11:08 PM |
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This is the same conversation over and over and over again with the same result, the DEV neglecting the community and refusing to communicate. Why even ask about the coin at all? I was the bad guy for saying all this months ago. The problem is the same as it has been, inaction and perhaps incompetence by Eurbids.
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MikeMike
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December 24, 2014, 05:29:47 PM |
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This is the same conversation over and over and over again with the same result, the DEV neglecting the community and refusing to communicate. Why even ask about the coin at all? I was the bad guy for saying all this months ago. The problem is the same as it has been, inaction and perhaps incompetence by Eurbids.
Well one "Other thing" is consistent. Your lies. Can't help yourself I see.
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Pala_00
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December 24, 2014, 05:53:47 PM |
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The big difference is between the pricipal project visions.
Eurbids: Amateur approach (free time/no coins?)
Community/Investors: Professional approach (gain/big investiment)
Obviously, this paradigms cannot coexist side by side.
It is not possible, in fact, to solve complex problems by just approaching them from one side.
The best way to solve this problem is, IMHO, that Eurbids decide to accept the helping hand offering him by Mike (trusted dev's team).
For example about the chat feature, Mike's team could start now to develop it... When it's ready, they will send to Eurbids for a regular check/valuation.
The release's time will be very reduced, the KorePhone can continue to grow and the community will see many updates every week.
...And they lived happily ever after...
Eurbids, Mike... What do you think about?
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