Thanks for your honest concern  I thought the sarcasm was obvious. My only real concern right now is watching this entire scheme completely fall apart, so I can laugh some more. These forums are quite entertaining at times. * Xian01 resumes consuming unhealthy quantities of popcorn It was indeed, obviously your radar is off today Are you going to respond to my request that you explain your accusation that I have made death threats? I was in deep and was given what was ordered and promised up until a point.....a point where "10,000" other people or "dullest retards" thought the same thing according to the SEC.
So singling me out is a bit of a stretch.
Oh, and when you say: "blatant fraud scheme being brought forth by one of Garza's Hashtalkers" Don't forget your buddy suchmooon was very much one of those "Garza's Hashtalkers" I remember it very well.
"10,000 other people" didn't all shill for GAW, in fact most of them didn't. Trying to blend into the crowd now? And to make it easy on readers I have poop-colored another example of your made-up shit. An great specimen of a BitStone investor ladies and gentlemen. Claims to have learned from and repented past deeds only to do the exact same thing again.* With a clone or imitation of Paycoin that Josh Garza had created for his blatant and obvious fraud scheme, no less. buckrogers: Dumbest guy on the planet in the Galaxy? Or part of these operations? You decide. P.S: Is Bitstone a clone from Paycoin? Or just real similar? Good luck with all your death threats Paul...stupid monkey. I am afraid you have lost me here, my good man. Can you please explain what you mean with this outrageous and baseless accusation? Please name exactly who you say I have threatened. I have only asked for an explanation of the Bitstone business model and how wealth is created out of thin air, that Keith will then go through a hell of a lot of trouble and expense to share with everyone instead of just keeping it, you know - just because that's how he rolls. Do I really have to explain this one to you Paul? I thought you were a true detective? I was referring to your comments on the threats made to YOU...silly |
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I do know 100's or 1000's of old hashtalk members and customers such as yourself
I was expecting you to drop some obliterating evidence of me being on hashtalk... what, nothing? We're supposed to just trust your imagination? Time for the tables to turn buddy. I don't want you to get doxxed, but keep pushing your envelope and I'm sure some people will up that ante Calling you out on a lie is just that - calling you out on a lie. There is no envelope to be pushed. There's just your typical post-Garza scammy character to be highlighted. Make new shit up as rapidly as possible to obfuscate the topic at hand hoping that no one will see through it and maybe some of it will even stick. suchmoon: "I was expecting you to drop some obliterating evidence of me being on hashtalk... what, nothing? We're supposed to just trust your imagination?" Do you really want me to post up all that old stuff? I'm sure you don't, but you will say sure go ahead. and I will |
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P.S: Is Bitstone a clone from Paycoin? Or just real similar?
It's a clone of BitcoinDark AFAIK. its code has remnants of ppcoin ... ive forked and changed / messed with some of the code on my git ... not much - just some little changes ... but what that has to do with the state of affairs of the business that bitstone has currently? ... anyone can clone a coin - but to make it a success is a very different thing altogether ... its like ford copying a car model from toyota ( geez - they have never done THAT before ) - renaming it something else - and making it a bigger success than the original ... if bitstone is going to move forward with their plans of what they envisage as being a successful model - then great ... it means that a massive positive has been injected into the crypto sphere - which is a well needed injection ... if it turns out to be farce - then its 'another one' ... so far though - all that the garbage and facts and figures has done is to boost the popularity of not only the coin - but the interest in the business side of bitstone ... kudos to the team ... it simply means the more that this thread gets boosted - the more people get interested - the more funds get injected - the more sales they make ... win win all round ... im neither here nor there with what goes on in the background of management - im interested in the success of crypto in general ... and if this coin / business is going to propell that ideal - then great ... there are many coins that dont follow through with what they say they will do ... has bitstone? ... make your mind from what is shown - not what is thrown ... good or bad - one must always weigh the facts and not the hearsay ... hearsay doesnt stand an iota of a chance in a legal court system - why should it bear any weighting here - or in any other thread for that matter? ... thats my take on crypto in general - let alone bitstone ... #crysx Thanks for the information crysx, finally we are back on topic....good luck with all the development. |
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Thanks for your honest concern I thought the sarcasm was obvious. My only real concern right now is watching this entire scheme completely fall apart, so I can laugh some more. These forums are quite entertaining at times. * Xian01 resumes consuming unhealthy quantities of popcorn It was indeed, obviously your radar is off today |
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Oh, and I am not shilling by any means for bitstone. It is just one of many coins in my portfolio, and I do hope they succeed in their ventures, cause I'm gonna get me some GOOOOOLD! (Xian01, that line is for you as well) no need to make a separate post about your stupid remark.
I'm not sure if you are trying to confuse me into submission or what. SFYL in advance. Thanks for your honest concern |
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Was waiting for someone to post this... good job sir. @Buckrodgers: you have already proven yourself incredibly gullible in the past...maybe you should take a step back and reconsider your blatant shilling for BST. I'd hate for someone to scam you again, but you seem to be a glutton for punishment. It's cool thanks for your concern, I'll be just fine without the advice of the crew. |
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I was in deep and was given what was ordered and promised up until a point.....a point where "10,000" other people or "dullest retards" thought the same thing according to the SEC.
So singling me out is a bit of a stretch.
Oh, and when you say: "blatant fraud scheme being brought forth by one of Garza's Hashtalkers" Don't forget your buddy suchmooon was very much one of those "Garza's Hashtalkers" I remember it very well.
"10,000 other people" didn't all shill for GAW, in fact most of them didn't. Trying to blend into the crowd now? And to make it easy on readers I have poop-colored another example of your made-up shit. An great specimen of a BitStone investor ladies and gentlemen. Claims to have learned from and repented past deeds only to do the exact same thing again. Good point , maybe 10,000 people didn't "ALL" come forward and be vocal about their trust at the time and maybe those 10,000 believed they were in the right investment as well. I do know 100's or 1000's of old hashtalk members and customers such as yourself, defending good old Joshie at one point or another...but it's cool if thats all you have on me to focus on. It's nothing that wasn't addressed 100 times over, and nothing I ever denied. Try something different for a change buddy. Either way, I was not doing anything I wouldn't have done normally if I truly believed in a product, which I did ...Until a point, and had made my comments about that very public. Why do you think you get a pass to "blend in the crowd" as you say? Do people here know all of your involvement with GAW, and being a loyal customer as well? Oh, and I am not shilling by any means for bitstone. It is just one of many coins in my portfolio, and I do hope they succeed in their ventures, cause I'm gonna get me some GOOOOOLD! (Xian01, that line is for you as well) no need to make a separate post about your stupid remark. My posts were all on topic as you say, until your dream-team showed up. thanks! Time for the tables to turn buddy. I don't want you to get doxxed, but keep pushing your envelope and I'm sure some people will up that ante |
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You're funny  Let me help you out with some fancy HTML. Good job at making shit up and then refusing to stand by it. Because if you said upfront "I don't know shit I just want cheap gems and I don't like your questions standing in my way" - that wouldn't sound so noble, would it? Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.
Have you guys no shame?
You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.
This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.
I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"
Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy? Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).
If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it. It happens every day on this forum.
Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.
If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.
thanks!
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, no wonder you get into these scams without due diligence. Nowhere did I say anything about OgNasty, and I do respect his position in this, i.e. ensure the transaction goes smoothly should someone choose to buy from "Kieth". Whether he's putting his reputation on the line - I don't know, I guess that's what escrows do. If there were no shady deals and no risk we wouldn't need escrow. I don't have a significant concern of collusion or any other shady dealings here. There just seems to be some of the usual sleazeball tactics by "Kieth" - it's a gift, then it's a payment, etc etc. The thing to watch is what happens when the first few escrow transactions are complete - will "Kieth" try to say "I'm trustworthy now send me your moneys directly" or smth like that. Regarding me buying the coins - that was in direct response TO YOU: If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.
This fallacy is very popular as an excuse for not addressing legitimate concerns. And you know what - in the past I've put my money in some of these questionable entities just to show how absurd that is. They never disappoint. None of these sleazy "entrepreneurs" treat you any better whether you're a customer/investor/etc or not. So it's a fair question - do you really think investing in BitStone would "unignore" me and answer my questions, perhaps even call off the doxing? I think it's the other way around, the expectation is that only the most gullible would invest, therefore serious questions would never arise. But I'd like to hear your interpretation. I was mentioning you others in the barrage of attacks you perform on a daily basis. I say go for it, buy something, then you can either: Have something to use as proof of a scam, or a nice piece of gold coin or whatever. I was never a fan of doxxing and have said so many times. thanks! As far as the ignore list, that is out of my hands...sorry. "Good job at making shit up and then refusing to stand by it." I think you are getting confused buddy. What am I making up again? damn you guys love this shit don't you. Well if you want to play, lets play. |
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Your line of questioning was extremely rude, and inappropriate.
Ok, snowflake. These forums are not a hugbox. Whats with you and hugboxes? Can you post a pic of your hugbox? thanks! |
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It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon. Have you guys no shame? You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum. Yep. Questioning one of the most respected escrows on these forums, when he's (un?)wittingly involved himself in a confidence scam, is shameful behavior alright. How will I ever be able to look at myself in the mirror again ?!? Where is your shame for not seeing this scheme for what it really is ? I won't even bother touching on the regulatory issues this coin is likely to face, should authorities decide to investigate; Anyone remember the hassle the physical Bitcoin guys went through for a while, way back when ? It's like people don't learn from history around here or something. Your line of questioning was extremely rude, and inappropriate. Unless you have actual facts this this is a "confidence scam" than you have just insulted one of the most trusted people on bitcointalk without any proof. So I would suggest before you look to foolish, that you let things play out before you throw out accusations at top members of this forum. I would bet that a large percentage of members here have done a thing or two in their day, so basing a "scam" on something speculative, is not that intelligent. I could be wrong, I will state that now, but I have no PROOF or reason at this point in time BEFORE the store is even open, and orders have been processed, to call this a scam. I have definitely been wrong in the past, in a big way with GAW, and I came back to this forum to apologize to anyone I may have insulted, and was open to a requested Q & A, by someone I didn't even know....I was ridiculed none the less, with lines like tough shit, we don't care, and more childish remarks from so called people who care about the welfare of their families....see above comments. It didn't bother me, as I moved on with my ventures, but these people have not, and insist on insulting people without any rationale. This a far cry from a GAW scam IMO, they were operating for over 6 months and delivering on their goods and promises, before Josh went AWOL in the head. The bitstone store isn't even up yet to my knowledge and no orders have been taken. I would be happy to order some various items, and see if this is the real deal. If not, they you guys can all call scam until you turn blue in the face. thanks! You shilled for Garza and his blatant and obvious Paycoin fraud operation LONG after even the dullest retards had figured out it was a blatant fraud operation. The fact that you are here supporting what looks in every way to be another blatant fraud scheme being brought forth by one of Garza's Hashtalkers does not surprise me in the slightest. Something I find interesting is the timing of your posts in relation to the timing of some other member's posts. Are you timing appearances, the same person, or is this a simple coincidence? You are quite welcome to put me on ignore if my posts bother you. NO, I don't ignore people, I believe people should have the right to say what they want, as long as its backed up with a shred of proof, or else you look like a fool....I like reading all your posts Paul. Its kinda funny. But you wonder why you are getting threats and such from people somewhere? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out why. I never denied being a "GAW defender" hell, it was in my signature...lol I was in deep and was given what was ordered and promised up until a point.....a point where "10,000" other people or "dullest retards" thought the same thing according to the SEC. So singling me out is a bit of a stretch. Your comment "Something I find interesting is the timing of your posts in relation to the timing of some other member's posts. Are you timing appearances, the same person, or is this a simple coincidence?" is pretty funny, who do you suspect that I am now? Should we play a game of clue to find out .....lol, maybe I'm the next big scam? maybe my coin I'm secretly developing in the basement of BFL is going to control the world with its advanced AI tech....you are too funny man. Go find another conspiracy to waste your time on. I am buckrogers baby, one and only, once a GAW shill, now cant wait to visit him in prison. I don't need to have a second account to say what I want to say thanks! [mod note: edited out off-topic comment] |
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Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.
Have you guys no shame?
You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.
This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.
I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"
Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy? Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).
If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it. It happens every day on this forum.
Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.
If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.
thanks!
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, no wonder you get into these scams without due diligence. Nowhere did I say anything about OgNasty, and I do respect his position in this, i.e. ensure the transaction goes smoothly should someone choose to buy from "Kieth". Whether he's putting his reputation on the line - I don't know, I guess that's what escrows do. If there were no shady deals and no risk we wouldn't need escrow. I don't have a significant concern of collusion or any other shady dealings here. There just seems to be some of the usual sleazeball tactics by "Kieth" - it's a gift, then it's a payment, etc etc. The thing to watch is what happens when the first few escrow transactions are complete - will "Kieth" try to say "I'm trustworthy now send me your moneys directly" or smth like that. Regarding me buying the coins - that was in direct response TO YOU: If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.
This fallacy is very popular as an excuse for not addressing legitimate concerns. And you know what - in the past I've put my money in some of these questionable entities just to show how absurd that is. They never disappoint. None of these sleazy "entrepreneurs" treat you any better whether you're a customer/investor/etc or not. So it's a fair question - do you really think investing in BitStone would "unignore" me and answer my questions, perhaps even call off the doxing? I think it's the other way around, the expectation is that only the most gullible would invest, therefore serious questions would never arise. But I'd like to hear your interpretation. Well first off the "reading comprehension problem" might be on your end buddy, as this was a reply to Xian01 on his direct line of questioning to OG. I was mentioning you others in the barrage of attacks you perform on a daily basis. I say go for it, buy something, then you can either: Have something to use as proof of a scam, or a nice piece of gold coin or whatever. I was never a fan of doxxing and have said so many times. thanks! As far as the ignore list, that is out of my hands...sorry. |
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It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon. Have you guys no shame? You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum. Yep. Questioning one of the most respected escrows on these forums, when he's (un?)wittingly involved himself in a confidence scam, is shameful behavior alright. How will I ever be able to look at myself in the mirror again ?!? Where is your shame for not seeing this scheme for what it really is ? I won't even bother touching on the regulatory issues this coin is likely to face, should authorities decide to investigate; Anyone remember the hassle the physical Bitcoin guys went through for a while, way back when ? It's like people don't learn from history around here or something. Your line of questioning was extremely rude, and inappropriate. Unless you have actual facts this this is a "confidence scam" than you have just insulted one of the most trusted people on bitcointalk without any proof. So I would suggest before you look too foolish, that you let things play out before you throw out accusations at top members of this forum. I would bet that a large percentage of members here have done a thing or two in their day, so basing a "scam" on something speculative, is not that intelligent. I could be wrong, I will state that now, but I have no PROOF or reason at this point in time BEFORE the store is even open, and orders have been processed, to call this a scam. I have definitely been wrong in the past, in a big way with GAW, and I came back to this forum to apologize to anyone I may have insulted, and was open to a requested Q & A, by someone I didn't even know....I was ridiculed none the less, with lines like tough shit, we don't care, and more childish remarks from so called people who care about the welfare of their families....see above comments. It didn't bother me, as I moved on with my ventures, but these people have not, and insist on insulting people without any rationale. This a far cry from a GAW scam IMO, they were operating for over 6 months and delivering on their goods and promises, before Josh went AWOL in the head. The bitstone store isn't even up yet to my knowledge and no orders have been taken. I would be happy to order some various items, and see if this is the real deal. If not, they you guys can all call scam until you turn blue in the face. thanks! |
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It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
... and purchase silver below spot. Got it. Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon. Have you guys no shame? You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum. This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people. I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy" Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy? Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you). If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it. It happens every day on this forum. Everything else on that topic has no bearing here. If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns. thanks! |
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This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam  I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial. Thanks for getting involved in this project. I hope it goes as planned, and with you as the escrow, I don't think people would be as concerned otherwise. You have definitely earned your trust here for as long as I can remember Just jealous that you got dibs on that first kilo bar . Thanks! |
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This fool doesn't get it. Got an answer for everything that is neither clever nor wise when expecting to conduct business or expecting to handle other people's money.
This guy keeps slithering around every time he gets caught. Says one thing, means another, when that is insufficient he's another meaning for the other. This is not a business man and this is not a serious operation, a get rich quick scheme fly by night operation. OG would be wise to divorce himself from all of this before it goes any further.
I would say that is about the size of it all right. The sheer delusion displayed by Keith is astounding. It really does seem like he believes that there are a lot of people who don't view him as either an imbecile or a lunatic when they read his (and the totally not Keith Sock puppets'  ) posts "explaining" this operation. If I were him I would be more worried about answering some investigator's inquiries. I can see it now. pure brilliance in motion: Investigator: Dr. Harville, could you please explain the financial model of the Bitstones operation and thus prove that there is a way to deliver what you are promising and perhaps thus exclude it from being a type of Ponzi scam? Kieth: "Derp!  Silver Bar!  LIARS!  B@ING,Boing,   BB@ooooiNG! I'll pay 10 BTC for your identity!!  Picasso! Emeralds!  Imma gonna sell 10% below spot!! zZZZoooom! That's it, your on ignore mister! BadinBaDOOinGG!@$!Innocent bystanders! DErRRPP! Escrow!! Crimes Against Humanity!! VRRROooooooo@@M! Vroom!  " Fucking hilarious. I think you guys are taking this way too far. Proof of shipping/delivery en route has been shown of the items for sale. The most reputable Escrow on this forum has agreed to take on services as escrow, and decided to be paid in silver. If he were to be paid in DOGE would that be any different? People barter for services in business every day. there is absolutely nothing wrong with that and should not be seen as anything but an agreement of payment. Do you think OgNasty wouldn't have thought that through? He has the most to lose, and if he's comfortable with being the escrow, then I am comfortable using his services as I and thousands of others have done before. Most of your statements are goose chases, and mean nothing. Whatever your other shill account labeled "a" or whatever, hasn't posted anything since a one liner something about coinstand a few months back and it was just a link. All of a sudden it's a Paul double with hatred, yet you insist that there are paid/bought shill accounts on here, but deny any of your own. Paul you said "Hard to believe that the CEO of this operation will not answer questions posed by the customers from whom he is soliciting funds" do you even have any intention to purchase an item here? If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list. People can make their own decisions without your "leadership" if that's what you'd like to call it. You have spoken more than enough about all of your ideas and theories on this thread enough for people to decide for themselves. I think you have made your pint about 25 pages ago. Thanks! |
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Nice work bitstonedev, expect some orders come this week!!!
Thanks!
I'm not getting involved in this fight, and won't comment anymore on this topic, but just can't stand by and watch you be this gullible buckrogers after so much time. I fail to see the comparison you quoted me from the hate thread? So far this looks like something I would try, and see how it works out. I've been around long enough to know how much, when and what to invest in by now, without taking a huge hit. The other thread was a totally different issue regarding the sate of the forums, and some of the members actions on it. I see why you are saying what you are, but its not the same. Thanks for the candor. |
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Nice work bitstonedev, expect some orders come this week!!!
Thanks!
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OG baby!
oh yea!!!
thanks for being probably the most trusted escrow on this forum!
I have personally used your services, and couldn't think of anyone who would prove that this isn't for real now.
Thanks!
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There are 146 (no, I'm not missing a zero or any other digit) active BST addresses: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/#!richI found one (1) actual transaction (other than staking) in the last 8 hours. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/block.dws?36923.htmNo wonder we can't get any coherent discussion here. There aren't really that many bagholders and no network activity. On the bright side 90.5% of coins are staking. Which means that should you want to perform a hostile fork you may need approximately... 46% of the coins, all other things being equal (coin age etc). have you found mine yet? |
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Just dropping in yooooo! |
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