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2181  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is "tipping" worth? on: January 04, 2017, 09:57:11 AM
Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
2182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will China’s $50,000 Quota Matter For Bitcoin After Jan.1? on: January 04, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
this will actually force their government to take more contorl on bitcoin, if they begin to think that chinese will use bitcoin more

it would lead to more laws for bitcoin thus hidering its adoption, in china, not exactly a good think in my view

For a person who has spent a long time in the forum I cant believe that you can fathom that it will force their government to take more control of BTC. How are they going to do it exactly? Please enlighten us with a thorough explanation.

If they really had a way to control it they would have done it already.
2183  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: KeepKey 30 BTC reward for capturing the hacker ! on: January 04, 2017, 09:48:31 AM
Is this one of those attempts to drive down the price again? I swear that hacks like these tend to happen a lot when BTC is reaching important milestones in its development and value. Is there really a conspiracy behind this and should we be worried? Maybe we should withdraw our coins from the exchanges just to be safe. I feel like there will be a serious hack in one of the popular and bigger exchanges soon.
I do not know about a conspiracy, but i just opened a thread and explained, that it makes sense to me that as a hacker you wait, with everything in place for the hack, for the price to increase. So now is a good time for hackers.

I just wonder about the amount of the bounty. Is it much? Is this how much this data and the customer is worth to KeepKey? 

30 BTC is ok if you want to help out and get something in return. But if Keepkey really wanted to catch the hacker they should offer a higher bounty and not something announced in public. Most of these bounty offers are only good for appeasing their customers so that they could pretend they are doing something to find the hacker.
2184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: January 04, 2017, 09:42:16 AM
Here is one more. Iam new. Smiley
I'm sure every day there will always be new users coming, and I think it would be difficult to calculate how many bitcoin users with certainty, but the most important thing is bitcoin users continues to grow
we can never ever calculate the real number of Bitcoin members since Bitcoin was created for the anonymity. There are lots of people who are not willing to provide the truth that they are holding Bitcoin and some even hide this truth.

The people who arent telling the truth are mostly the ones who say that they are using it on a daily basis. Why not admit that you are like the rest of us. We are interested in holding BTC to get rich. Thats the truth, why would most of you make things up?
2185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: January 03, 2017, 06:56:54 AM
I think it's impossible to say, but the number will grove as the price of BTC rise. To know the
approximately number of people would interest large companies like Amazon, Ebay etc. when implement BTC as payment method, to see it is worthed or not. For the rest of people (miners, traders etc.) is irrelevant  Cool
of course, more and more users will bring in a variety of large investors. bitcoin we believe that the future will be powered by a variety of important components that exist in the world economy today.
Still we cannot determine the exact number of actual users of bitcoin, but we can always feel that the economy of bitcoin is having a success now. you can tell it upon seeing how the price move.

So if Doge price is going up right now would you consider that the Doge economy is also having a success now? How can you say that if Doge doesnt even have an economy behind it? Bitcoin's price rise and fall is due to speculative buying and selling and its not solely because its economy is successful. Your comment shows how shallow your thinking is.
2186  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: KeepKey 30 BTC reward for capturing the hacker ! on: January 03, 2017, 06:51:25 AM
Is this one of those attempts to drive down the price again? I swear that hacks like these tend to happen a lot when BTC is reaching important milestones in its development and value. Is there really a conspiracy behind this and should we be worried? Maybe we should withdraw our coins from the exchanges just to be safe. I feel like there will be a serious hack in one of the popular and bigger exchanges soon.
2187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will China’s $50,000 Quota Matter For Bitcoin After Jan.1? on: January 03, 2017, 06:44:37 AM
As the first day of January 2017 approaches, concerns that the yuan will likely depreciate further in the coming year because of the Chinese government’s enforced capital control may force more users seeking to move money out of the country to Bitcoin.

January 1 is when the yearly $50,000 limit that the Chinese government permits citizens as the amount of money individuals can move out of the country in a year comes to effect. This measure enables many Chinese to pull their money out of China.


http://news.8btc.com/will-chinas-50000-quota-matter-for-bitcoin-after-jan-1

This is very good news for Bitcoiners, BTC holders and investors. Any form of government intervention in its citizen's money matters and an imposition of some control is a good thing for a currency that is designed to be resistant to censorship and centralized control. We should be having a New Year's party with that news right now.
2188  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] Purse.io is a scam on: January 03, 2017, 06:39:49 AM
If you really want the people here to believe you then you must find a way. Thats your problem. You claim to have been scammed but Pulse.io can also claim that you have created multiple accounts and tried to cheat them. So who are we going to believe? A newbie account or the reputable BTC service?

The question is, and if it were you who is going through the same thing. What evidence would you give us to believe you?

Take screenshots of the history of your transaction to prove what took place. Sometimes people here claim they have been scammed and say that customer support doesnt reply but always remember that they could be lying. If I did everything I could and none of you believe me then what could I do? But its ok, its just the way it is.

2189  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is "tipping" worth? on: January 03, 2017, 06:33:55 AM
I have Tipped a few users out of 2016 & into 2017 so far and sometimes randomly throughout the years I have been a Member of Bitcointalk, self satisfaction knowing you are spreading the BTCTC love makes it so much better when you do it, no matter if that person has loads of BTCitcoin or not.

I offer the Rewards, Tips, or what ever you want to call it for using your Brain with Quiz's that aren't Generic, it throws the cheats off their game and gives others that may specialize in the Subject/Genre a chance.

*All the following have been Won*
|End of Year Bitcoin Quiz|  |Start of the Year 2017 Bitcoin Quiz|  |Start of the Year 2017 Bitcoin Quiz #2|


You are a rare breed in the forum. Most of us here are happy to hold on in what we have. Maybe its because we dont hold that much BTC in the first place. Maybe if I was a Bitcoin millionaire I would tip random people sometimes. But honestly speaking I think its a waste of BTC.
2190  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is "tipping" worth? on: January 02, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
The act of tipping with BTC is now dead. The service Change Tip even closed down because there were no people using it. BTC is simply too valuable to be given away easly to random people on the internet. But other coins like Doge are better suited for it, but even then Doge tipping is getting lower and lower every year.
2191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2017, 09:21:16 AM
We can't know everything what is happening on the internet, especialy having in mind the deep web so it's hard to make any estimation. Still with overal acceptance and especialy with high price the number of users is probably increasing and people are changing their opinion about the Bitcoin for the better.

A rising price of BTC does is not necessarily caused by the increasing number of users. This might be an empty pump from the rich traders who dont have anything better to do with their free time. Please keep that in mind.

That can be one of the causes of the price increase in bitcoin lately, but I think the population who is using bitcoin is also increasing with the time. I can't estimate what is the real number who actually using it, but we start to see more place who accept bitcoin.
Well for my own speculation we are 23% of population who are using bitcoin.. and i think we are increasing but we can say that we are fast growing but we are gradually increasing. that is why the price right now are gradually increasing and i think more people will use bitcoin and more demand will come..

If you think that 23% of the population use BTC right now then please show us your proof. Until you can show me the hard numbers and statistics your speculation has no bearing and is not backed up by facts. Why would we believe a random person in this forum who is sometimes surely brain farting from his mouth.


That number which is 23% is too dreamy and really far from the actual number even today only 40% of people in this world "have" an internet connection according to this site which showing the statistics: http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/ . If you're trying to ask people in your office, your neighbours, or wherever then I guess you will find out not more than 3 of 10 people you were asking will know bitcoin


3 out of 10 people is very generous. I bet if you really do a real live survey and ask around in a country like Kenya that statistic would be more like 1 out of 50. I dont know where he got 23% but it sure sounds like a loud brain fart to me and obviously to you too.
2192  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] Purse.io is a scam on: January 02, 2017, 09:16:32 AM
Hold your horses. The word scam is thrown around very lightly here. Im sure theres a good explanation on the whole issue and there might be a glitch in their system or a group of hackers are taking advantage of the glitch. Either way, they should look into it and investigate.
meanwhile they investigate, i should at least have my btc withdrawn before locked.

How many other people are being scammed the way you did by the way? Until its proven that Purse is a scam then I will not believe a newbie account and their claims. It would be just as easy to say that you tried to cheat their system.
the newbie is ex-staff on another forum.
https://www.nulled.to/user/8-levathian

So what? Unless it is a staff of Bitcointalk thats claiming that Purse is scamming the people everywhere, I will not believe a newbie account who claims to be an exstaff of another random forum.
Then don't believe and fuck off the thread, thanks. The random forum has 700k+ members.

No I wont get out of the thread until the issue is resolved. What are you angry for? I have the same right as you to be here in this thread or in any thread for that matter. If you dont want some of the user's opinions here then why not make a self moderated thread.

So I will say again that more proof is needed because this is a very serious issue.
Yeah how am i supposed to prove it for you?

If you really want the people here to believe you then you must find a way. Thats your problem. You claim to have been scammed but Pulse.io can also claim that you have created multiple accounts and tried to cheat them. So who are we going to believe? A newbie account or the reputable BTC service?
2193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC38 hot wallet got hacked and lost 1.5 million on: January 02, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
When compared to their overall trade volumes, the stolen amount is significant. But still, it is not that big to disrupt the daily operations. IMO, they must be able to cover up this loss from a few months revenue.

they are not that popular to my knowledge and that means lower volume compared to other exchanges and if they were really hacked and this is not a fake story , it will take they a long time to make it back with fees on exchange with a low volume.

In that case, this is a very disappointing news. And now since their reputation is lost, a lot of the users are going to dump the exchange as well. Their long-term survival prospect looks bleak.

Just like another exchange, i doubt they can restore their reputation and services unless they trying very hard. People simply will forget BTC38 and move to another exchange which has better reputation OR they learned not to keep their money on exchange.

Thats true. It will simply fade away just like the other Chinese exchange called BTER. Thats another exchange that kept on getting hacked and the altcoin NXT over there kept getting stolen. The last time I checked, the exchange had almost zero volume. So it shows that the community do listen to the negaive reviews given to a service.
2194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Investing in Cloud Mining Still Profitable ?? on: January 02, 2017, 09:05:01 AM
Hello everyone,

I want to invest in Genesis-Mining, I want to buy 15 TH/s (power of Bitmain S9)
can anyone give me details of my profit from this ?


Regards,

Bitcoin Boy.

At least you "MUST" read this, the honest review by the merkle.

http://themerkle.com/genesis-mining-review/

That already tells a lot for us. You can underline the conclusion has made by him at the contract correction. It doesn't matter legit or not, but the shady contract has made it looks like silly site.

"crazyivan from bitcointalk described genesis-mining best:

    Its not a scam in a classic way where they will run away with your money, no, they re 100% legit and they will provide everything they state. The only problem is one cannot make money, their products re simply that bad. By investing in genesis-mining all you do is provide them an interest free loan for them to expand their farms and that is all."

   CrazyIvan from bitcointalk gave us good explanation what is going on in genesis mining company. I never tried investing in online mining sites, after I saw here what kind of experience people from here have on this sites, I said to myself that I will not try that ever.
   More I read about them, more sure I`m in my decision about them. I will not give them my hard earned money just like that, and to wait all my life them to return that same money too me. CrazyIvan described them, they cannot make money, they are just collecting money from everyone. I dont understand how they survived so much, who are the people that invest in this sites and wait for ROI that will never come.
   

It may not be a scam in a classic way but most of them sure are run like classic ponzi schemes. What kind of business that needs new money from new customers coming in to pay off the current ones?

So its good to advice everyone to stay clear from cloud mining contracts. Its better to invest directly in BTC.
2195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Investing in Cloud Mining Still Profitable ?? on: January 01, 2017, 05:32:40 AM
To answer the question in your title, NO. Stay away from any BTC cloud mining site. They are operating like a ponzi scheme. They need your money to pay off their existing customers. It is a known fact that BTC mining are a slightly losing or break even venture. Maybe only a small portion of the whole BTC mining industry is make a little profit.
2196  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buying clothes with bitcoins? on: January 01, 2017, 05:27:51 AM
I dont see the logic of buying clothes with BTC when cash works fine in any store I go to. If its buying drugs online on the other hand thats a different story. But ultimately I would prefer to save all my BTC.

If you are from the US, it probably doesn't make sense to use BTC. For people in some other countries who don't have credit cards and want to purchase online, paying with BTC makes more sense.

What countries are we talking about and at what demographic do these buyers belong to? If you are talking about third world countries I have seen people buy stuff on a store which they advertise on facebook and they take payments via cash deposits in their bank accounts. There really is no need to pay with BTC for clothes because the fiat banking system works.

I think that the reason you'd buy physical things with BTC is if you make a lot of it, and want to convert it to fiat. Buying a debit card or a virtual card to use at retailers can be cheaper than exchanging BTC to fiat, and with less hassle.

Why is there a need for that? Buying straight with fiat without going to BTC is already fine enough for all the people even if some of them have BTC. Dont you see that buying clothes with BTC which you bought with fiat is stupid and pointless? Why go to BTC then fiat again? Why not just buy the item you want with fiat?
2197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC38 hot wallet got hacked and lost 1.5 million on: January 01, 2017, 05:15:34 AM
i don't think this post is in the "bitcoin duscussion" session but the "press release" instead.
anyway, the reason of wallet being hacked, IMO is because China, if that site is from that region, is regulating their data excessively strict or harsh, most of the unnecessary data gone exposed, or their datacentre link was stolen during the Chinese monitoring. Huh

But this is not just a press release. This is actual news that needs to be discussed given the serious nature of it. If there are any BTC38 users here, how are they taking this news? Is there a massive exit from their exchange?
2198  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] Purse.io is a scam on: January 01, 2017, 05:12:17 AM
Hold your horses. The word scam is thrown around very lightly here. Im sure theres a good explanation on the whole issue and there might be a glitch in their system or a group of hackers are taking advantage of the glitch. Either way, they should look into it and investigate.
meanwhile they investigate, i should at least have my btc withdrawn before locked.

How many other people are being scammed the way you did by the way? Until its proven that Purse is a scam then I will not believe a newbie account and their claims. It would be just as easy to say that you tried to cheat their system.
the newbie is ex-staff on another forum.
https://www.nulled.to/user/8-levathian

So what? Unless it is a staff of Bitcointalk thats claiming that Purse is scamming the people everywhere, I will not believe a newbie account who claims to be an exstaff of another random forum.
Then don't believe and fuck off the thread, thanks. The random forum has 700k+ members.

No I wont get out of the thread until the issue is resolved. What are you angry for? I have the same right as you to be here in this thread or in any thread for that matter. If you dont want some of the user's opinions here then why not make a self moderated thread.

So I will say again that more proof is needed because this is a very serious issue.
2199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: January 01, 2017, 05:08:21 AM
We can't know everything what is happening on the internet, especialy having in mind the deep web so it's hard to make any estimation. Still with overal acceptance and especialy with high price the number of users is probably increasing and people are changing their opinion about the Bitcoin for the better.

A rising price of BTC does is not necessarily caused by the increasing number of users. This might be an empty pump from the rich traders who dont have anything better to do with their free time. Please keep that in mind.

That can be one of the causes of the price increase in bitcoin lately, but I think the population who is using bitcoin is also increasing with the time. I can't estimate what is the real number who actually using it, but we start to see more place who accept bitcoin.
Well for my own speculation we are 23% of population who are using bitcoin.. and i think we are increasing but we can say that we are fast growing but we are gradually increasing. that is why the price right now are gradually increasing and i think more people will use bitcoin and more demand will come..

If you think that 23% of the population use BTC right now then please show us your proof. Until you can show me the hard numbers and statistics your speculation has no bearing and is not backed up by facts. Why would we believe a random person in this forum who is sometimes surely brain farting from his mouth.

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