I'm not sure why more people are interested in Blackcoin over Mint? Someone tell me please, is it the 0% Premine? Since my time here, I've noticed the devs are very committed and hard at work at making this a good coin, yet Blackcoin is getting 1000 BTC volume everyday while we are getting less than 50. BTW, i fully support mint just bought 1 mill more because i think this coin has a good future.
I haven't ever sold any Mint, I just buy some more every now and again, quietly add it to the total. I imagine a few fans of Mintcoin do much the same thing. For other POS coins 1% isn't much incentive to hold on to a coin so they are being kept on exchanges and speculated on. But eventually people new to the crypto community are going to see Mintcoin as an alternative to a term deposit a bank might offer, and jump onboard. If your banker said, "Hey, would you like an account that has high potential for growth and pays 20% interest?", what would you say? I would think he was pulling my leg. Mintcoin offers just that. Once COUNTRIES realize this, they may see the coins with higher coin totals as a viable means to store and exchange with while cutting out central banks and setting their own regulations within the treasury department. The coins with higher coin counts are attractive, considering they are already established and can be traded against any other currency, with enough units in play to spread amongst the citizens. Mintcoin offers a platform for this, with a cheap buy in price and humongous room for growth. I am excited for the future of Mintcoin and it's investors. |
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I will send some BTC love toward the vote count on Monday night when my fresh BTC comes in. Nice to see it rising so fast!  |
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Yes I saw the votes jump as if someone spent some money.. Keep voting people! =) 恩，我们也在刷票，BC应该是请了枪手刷。 Someone just dropped 0.3295 BTC to get the vote to first place by several thousand votes. We are now at 11582! |
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Sorry for the delays updating the first post, the last two days were a bit busy but it has now been updated. I need to look over a new exchange that has listed us.
Mintpal voting is going really well! You guys are kicking butt and we are building up votes quickly. Don't get discouraged--we have a few surprises up our sleeves that will help with everything you guys have been doing. The most important thing to keep in mind is that we are a team working together to build something incredible.
I would really like to get above H2O on the voting. I am really surprised with its 3 time failed launch that it is above this coin and this project. We need to show our support for Cleanwater! We were a hundred votes away from them within a day or two (we were around 980, they were around 1069) and then someone on the H20 team used 0.1 BTC to get the vote pumped up to 2080. Now, they are at 2100 which is only an increase of 20 votes since someone used the BTC to pump their vote, and we are already gaining on them again at 1231! I am sure there will be some BTC dropped to get the vote up if we need it. In the meantime, it is fun to watch the coin naturally climb the charts and leave much older/established coins in the dust. Obviously, for this early in a coin's life, we have already attracted strong foundational community support, and with all the room left to grow, I can only see things getting MUCH more interesting in the future. |
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I just clicked it over 1000. Not bad considering we are doing better than coins that have been on there for over a month.
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fighting , who will win ?it's up to you . show your support! we will win . We will not. H20 supporters are putting their money where their mouth is and donating their BTC for votes. They are now at 2080 vs our 976. I have already suggested we do the same but I was shot down by unrealistic cheap-asses. Let's get real here, we need to put some money behind this if we want to get listed. Supporters of IxCoin which is No. 1 on the voting have contributed 2.89105 BTC (worth 28910 votes) to help get it there. If we want to get this many votes we either need hundreds of supporters voting 5 times an hour 24/7 or we need to back up all the big talk with some BTC. I am still the only one to have contributed any BTC, only 0.01 will add 100 votes, that's less than $5. I bet plenty of you have spent more than that voting for Big Brother, X Factor, America's Got Talent or whatever wannabe 'celebrity' show is specific to your country. Surely this is worth spending a few bucks on? We will need some BTC to get on top of that list anytime soon without humongous support, which I think is expected. I already planned on throwing some at Mintpal, but I think a pool would be better, where people pledge amounts, and then we do it all at once right before vote time. There is no real price set due to such low volume on the few exchanges listing the coin right now. I posted a ways back about getting some support to help develop an android app alongside another coin, but the post was covered up pretty quick by other non related posts. I think an Andriod app is integral to long-term life of coins, due to the need for an easy, on the go way to use the coins to make them useful, and simply because it opens the coin up to gigantic markets/demographics that are otherwise basically untouched. It is best if you can get started early on those, because they take time. I will keep on voting every hour in the meantime! |
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fighting , who will win ?it's up to you . show your support! We should pass h20 coin tonight, though MINTPAL seems to be having issues right now. I wonder if ZETcoin traffic is lagging the system? |
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http:/www.mintpal.com/voting
we are at 747, need to get to 1064 to pass H2O.
you can vote 5 times every hour.
Ive been at it since 30ish. Nice to wake up this morning and see it had gone from 600ish to 700+. No telling how quickly it will accumulate from here. I am excited to see if this coin takes off with the Chinese market. It will be interesting to see what price the Chinese value the coin on their exchanges. That may generate interest globally if the result is promising for investors, and then we will see demand for larger exchanges to carry the coin. I am sure we have some good press coming too.  At this rate, we will surely surpass H20 quickly. |
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MINTcoin is currently raising a bounty for an open-source Android wallet app. It is almost to 11 million MINT, or $730 USD. I was wondering if anyone on the CWC dev team, or any of the community here, has the ability to contribute/cooperate on such a project. It could be good for all coins by bringing usability to a massive market. Anyhow, if you are interested in developing the app, please see the below thread link and contact Beaverslayer, as he is the current go-to guy for the project. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.12600Well, things seem to be moving along nicely now, there have been a few community contributions added to the bounties since I first posted it. Here's a new breakdown of them:
Here's the outline of the graduated bounties from the Developer:
1: Basic Android Wallet for Phone and Tablets 5,000,000 Mintcoins
2: PoS Coin Minting Feature 3,500,000 Mintcoins
3: Battery Management Feature 1,500,000 Mintcoins
Here's the community donations so far:
stormia donated 200,000 Mintcoins (125,000 for basic wallet 50,000 for Minting Feature 25,000 for Battery Feature)
Jeff Jefferson donated 300,000 Mintcoins (100,000 for basic wallet 150,000 for Minting Feature 50,000 for Battery Feature)
So total bounties so far are:
1: Basic Android Wallet for Phone and Tablets 5,225,000 Mintcoins
2: PoS Coin Minting Feature 3,700,000 Mintcoins
3: Battery Management Feature 1,575,000 Mintcoins
Thanks for the donations so far, and thanks go out to the people that are currently working on the wallet. As more donations come in, and more news of the progress of the wallet is made, I'll post here for everyone to read.
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when it becomes pure POS?
should be POW+POS all the time . Mintcoin just had to eliminate their POW (was only 1 coin per block anyway) to avoid an exploit that was discovered by the BC dev. It was contentious if it was really an issue, but the Mintcoin dev seemed to think it was worth addressing, because they removed POW altogether and went pure POS. |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
The problem of infrastructure goes way beyond what this coin is trying to do. "Infrastructure", or the desire to acquire it, is what often causes these water crisis. "Third-world" countries are raped by banks, who offer up rigged "loans" to corrupt governments, knowing they will never be able to repay them, and thus giving the bank a way to take the resources of the country in question. The debt is leveraged against the citizens in order to drive them in to poverty and then control their resources. The bank starts this process when it approaches a struggling country and promises billions for "water infrastructure", the work for which is then immediately given to the banks subcontractors who build the infrastructure (thus cutting the locals out of the actions for the most part, and not helping their economy any more than building a temporary service industry for the foreign workers). So the country is loaned a few hundred million, or billions, and then it immediately gives a large portion of that money back to the bank, who has made sure that the contract states that only the BANKS subcontractor companies will do the work. The bank's subcontractor's do all the "improvements" that were promised, and when these improvements don't create all the money out of thin air that the banks promised the government and the citizens it would, and after the corrupt government and bank officials have pocketed millions, the bank comes looking for it's interest payments. And guess what? The country can't pay them. So the government defaults on the loan, and renegotiates their water rights away to the bank, who then starts charging the people astronomical prices for water, and diverting it to cheap labor plants and fields, thus turning what once was a perfectly nice little village in to a dried up shell of it's former self, as people have to walk farther and farther to get to an AFFORDABLE clean enough water source to survive. This has been happening for decades and has been well documented by a host of authors, but most notably by John Perkins in "Confession of an Economic Hitman". This coin will redirect funds to help those people that would likely not have been diverted there without the coin. It may even help teach people how to create their own currency and slowly (or quickly, if infrastructure is pre-laid) erode the power wielded by the owners of the banks. Resource robbing was one of those subjects I liked to discuss and blog about in college, the connection to which is what immediately drew me to the coin in the first place. (For a great interview with the author mentioned above, look up "Speaking Freely" with John Perkins.) The problem I have with watercoin is that it is more of a feel good thing, than something of actual substance and real world help. Obviously both of us have an understanding of the real world obstacles involved to actually provide clean water to a village. Sadly, many people hyping and praising watercoin have never left their hometown, much less lived in a third world country for any length of time. Even fewer, including myself, have visited a 4th world country. It is admirable that people get excited and want to "help", but honestly folks, handing out some bottled water doesn't fix the problem. Villages in Africa need wells, protected by armed guards, with incorruptable overseers to make sure people needing the water get it. They need onsite purification facilities. What they don't need is a few bottles of water and empty promises. Let me clue some of you in about how it works in the Philippines.........I'll use clothes as an example. You donate your clothes to Goodwill, they send them to the Philippines at the expense of Goodwill, where a corrupt customs official sells them by the kilo to the highest bidder. The winning bidder then takes those clothes and resells them to the public (after removing any higher value items they can resell in their "main" store) at places similar to flea markets or dollar stores. DO the locals appreciate it............yes, because they can get some decent clothes at a reasonable price. It is right? Not even slightly. You paid lets say $10 for a dress that fits a lil girl, she wore it a few times and outgrew it, you gave it to Goodwill wanting to be nice and help others.........but in this case at least two other people have profited by your "donation". At LEAST 2 people, as the winning bidder might have been another corrupt official that then resold them to the thrift store type people. Trust me......that lil girl dress wasn't acquired by the new lil girl for free. I seriously doubt a shipment of bottled water arriving in the Philippines would fair any better. Customs can and will charge you up to 200% of the value of the import, ESPECIALLY if that import competes with a local vendor. I'm also fairly certain this doesn't only happen in the Philippines. I feel it is important to help provide some clarity about some of your assumptions in your last post Xardas2014, and specifically about where the money goes when it is donated and what it is used for in helping to achieve our goals here at Clean Water Coin. You see, bringing clean water to people looks different in every country. Water sources, terrain, and population all play a part in determining what technology is required to serve people well, but there’s a solution to everything. Below is a list of the number of approaches/technologies/solutions used to help bring clean water to people around the world. 1. Hand Dug WellsSkilled laborers dig up to 15 meters by hand to reach aquifers below. 2. Drilled WellsA drilling team drills deep into the earth to reach fresh aquifers. 3. Rainwater CatchmentsGutters on rooftops direct the flow of rainfall into a sanitary holding tank. 4. Gravity Fed SystemsThe force of gravity feeds water into a community from an elevated source. 5. Piped SystemsNetworks of pipes supply water to different community tap stands. 6. Water Purification SystemsInstalled treatment systems remove contaminants from existing systems. 7. BioSand FiltersLayers of sand and microbacterial film filter out contaminants. 8. Spring ProtectionsA system captures and safely stores pure water from a natural spring. 9. LatrinesCovered shelters provide safety and privacy for bathroom users. As you can see, it actually has nothing to do with just shipping off a bunch of Dasani or Arrowhead water bottles to 3rd & 4th world countries  -- doing so as you pointed out -- just provides temporary relief to these families and no lasting solution. We searched high and low in finding a team who had the infrastructure in place who could actually make a difference -- and that is why we have set up our Non-profit Organization centered around helping to support charity: water -- http://my.charitywater.org/digital-drop-initiative-the-launchGoing into this, I knew there would be skeptics and that there would be a fair share of people who would cry scam (what new coin doesn't get that TBH?) -- but we've done our best to ignore that outside noise and focus on our goal -- to help raise money to bring clean water to these families around the world who do not currently have access to it. So far, in the first week of launching this coin -- we as a community have been fortunate to have donated over $2,000. 100% of that will be used to help bring clean water to 101 people. Think about that for a second... 101 people on this earth will soon be getting access to clean water because of something our community has helped to participate in. That is surreal to think about, and makes me grateful to be apart of this crypto-community -- one of the more compassionate and giving communities that I have seen. So on behalf of the rest of our Clean Water Coin Team, I want to thank each of you for your passion about this coin/cause, and your willingness to help join myself and our team and to be apart of something so much greater than ourselves. Thank you again, Zach p.s I'd encourage you or anyone else for that matter who is more interested in learning about how the money we are donating is being put to work by going here: http://www.charitywater.org/projects/approach/Hope to see it hit five digits soon, and six later! |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. Nice! |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
The problem of infrastructure goes way beyond what this coin is trying to do. "Infrastructure", or the desire to acquire it, is what often causes these water crisis. "Third-world" countries are raped by banks, who offer up rigged "loans" to corrupt governments, knowing they will never be able to repay them, and thus giving the bank a way to take the resources of the country in question. The debt is leveraged against the citizens in order to drive them in to poverty and then control their resources. The bank starts this process when it approaches a struggling country and promises billions for "water infrastructure", the work for which is then immediately given to the banks subcontractors who build the infrastructure (thus cutting the locals out of the actions for the most part, and not helping their economy any more than building a temporary service industry for the foreign workers). So the country is loaned a few hundred million, or billions, and then it immediately gives a large portion of that money back to the bank, who has made sure that the contract states that only the BANKS subcontractor companies will do the work. The bank's subcontractor's do all the "improvements" that were promised, and when these improvements don't create all the money out of thin air that the banks promised the government and the citizens it would, and after the corrupt government and bank officials have pocketed millions, the bank comes looking for it's interest payments. And guess what? The country can't pay them. So the government defaults on the loan, and renegotiates their water rights away to the bank, who then starts charging the people astronomical prices for water, and diverting it to cheap labor plants and fields, thus turning what once was a perfectly nice little village in to a dried up shell of it's former self, as people have to walk farther and farther to get to an AFFORDABLE clean enough water source to survive. This has been happening for decades and has been well documented by a host of authors, but most notably by John Perkins in "Confession of an Economic Hitman". This coin will redirect funds to help those people that would likely not have been diverted there without the coin. It may even help teach people how to create their own currency and slowly (or quickly, if infrastructure is pre-laid) erode the power wielded by the owners of the banks. Resource robbing was one of those subjects I liked to discuss and blog about in college, the connection to which is what immediately drew me to the coin in the first place. (For a great interview with the author mentioned above, look up "Speaking Freely" with John Perkins.) |
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For everything regarding the Android wallet, refer to Beaverslayer1 from now on. He will give more info soon and handle the project.
Well, I have been in contact with the Mintcoin developer and discussed the Android Wallet issue with him as we all know this project has to not only get off the ground and implemented ASAP to further the advancements of Mintcoin. A bounty for this project has been established and is outlined in the following requirements. Seeing as the bounty is a graduated bounty, it may be advisable that a few of you that have mentioned you are willing/capable of doing such work, maybe work together on different parts of the wallet. The one thing that has been discussed openly here in the forum, is whether the wallet is open source or proprietary, the only wallet that is eligible for the bounties MUST BE OPEN SOURCE. The reasoning for this, is that all crypto currencies are based on the open source concept as this gives greater freedom to the general public to be able to “Customize” any part of the software to their own individual liking. It also allows the ease of bug fixes to be looked at, fixed and implemented faster as you're not waiting on one single source to fix the problem. Here's the outline of the graduated bounties:
1: Basic Android Wallet for Phone and Tablets 5,000,000 Mintcoins
2: PoS Coin Minting Feature 3,500,000 Mintcoins
3: Battery Management Feature 1,500,000 MintcoinsThere have been some of you that have expressed interest in donating extra funds to this project, should you still be interested, please contact me via PM and express your desire and amount of donation. Excellent! Now that there is a bounty, we need a  |
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Is the inscription on the coin/logo Greek for "immeasurable love"? I was getting weird feedback from translation machines.
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Spreading my word out to those who use my Digital Currencies News Search Engine- we reach about 25,000 Bitcoiners per month, and about 10,000 from other Digital Currencies Congrats CleanWaterCoin Team- Keep up the good work and here is my appreciation for your efforts to the Bitcoin & Digital Currency community: http://bitcoinfeeds.com/clean-water-coin-why-it-all-matters-for-youSee why CleanWaterCoin all matters- multiple resources added into one page! Awesome! |
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No response from private email to lead developer. Waited several days. May have a dead coin, or they just may be on vacation.
Anyway you cut it, the lack of communication is not good. =/
Too bad! This coin still has promise with the right handling. Without any direction, the best we can expect is the occasional pump and dump.
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 SHARE WATER + GET WATERHelp us build the communitySaving a billion people can’t be done alone; it requires a community that spans countries and continents. Join us in this global initiative by tweeting, following, liking, sharing, and blasting our message out to other social communities. We’ll reward you for your help! Twitter: Tweet & Follow – 30 coins
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Support our Thunderclap – 30 coins All the coins we have to give out have been mined by us. Despite what trolls would have you believe we don’t have a King’s bounty of coins stocked away. We earn our coins just like everyone else, one hash at a time and we want to share them with you. Please do not post here asking for your rewards, it is against the rules on Bitcointalk. Instead, submit the form linked below and we will take care of you! Don't worry if you've already done these things, just show us and you'll get credit! Use the form below: Share WATER & Get WATER Form3 People paid out so far. Need you guys to show your support! I had already tweeted a few times, added my Facebook and Twitter to the Thunderclap. Form submitted. Hope it helps! |
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The rest is, I assume, for development of the coin. Getting it listed on a proper major exchange instead of many tiny exchanges which are barely used would seem to be a good step in getting the coin recognised and more widely used, and as such a good use of at least some of the roughly $12000 left over from the PLC.
Devs, please let me know if I'm wrong and clarify what the remaining 24BTC from the IPO will be used for.
Peng, I love your intensity. It's obvious you are incredibly passionate and that's what I respect. The BTC from the PLC goes to a number of things that all build up Clean Water Coin. From server fees and additional development costs (updated wallet is what's being worked on right now) to marketing and media campaigns. None of the BTC from the PLC has gone to pay for anything personal or as some sort of salary--we are at such a critical stage and those funds are key to growing Clean Water Coin and that is exactly how they will be used. We won't be spending BTC to buy votes on some of these medium sized exchanges, and let me explain why. We want to be on Mintpal and Cryptsy and others, but rushing to those exchanges is very dangerous for the long-term health of a coin. Because we are so new and there is a relatively small amount of coins disbursed among the community we are very susceptible to a pump and dump scenario. We've had an incredible launch, have already donated $2000 to charity: water, and have attracted lots of attention and all that could be used against us to fuel a pump. But without a larger community backing us that holds a more substantial amount of coins the fallout from a pump and dump right now would cause serious stagnation and possible death. Don't worry, we aren't holding the coin back. We support the voting for Mintpal and your purchase of votes is an incredible gesture and hasn't gone unnoticed. This are hugely important steps in our growth. Don't stop voting and don't stop emailing exchanges. Keep up the intensity. Participate in the new giveaway we just posted last night and help build awareness. I promise you, and everyone here, it is well worth the wait. +1 Like the dev said, keep voting on exchanges. People see the votes and then go look up the coin to see what all the fuss is about, bringing in new interest and volume/price points at current exchanges. Also, the more free votes are used, the less BTC it will cost if we need to boost numbers at some point. This is a good time to buy up some cheap coins too. I can't imagine the coin staying below 0.00000400 BTC for long, as it is doing a slow creep upwards already on Bittrex. Look at the depth chart.... https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-WATERWell, to be honest, selling coins just few days after launch, and moreover under the present prices, seems illogical to me. I wouldn't sell at those prices either. I would sell some at the higher sell order prices on NXT-E though! |
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