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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Ꞩ SOCIAL - Decentralized Social Network, Marketplace & Ad Platform on: August 19, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Reserve for Vietnamese translation please!
previous translations works
[ANN][ICO] Stox - Nền tảng thị trường giao dịch các hợp đồng tiên đoán |Ngày 2/8
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17257
[ANN] EventChain SmartTickets - Giải pháp cho việc phân phối vé sự kiện
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17181
[ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17279
[ANN] EventChain SmartTickets - Giải pháp cho việc phân phối vé sự kiện
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17181
[ANN] Centra ICO 582017 - Thẻ ghi nợ blockchain quốc tế và ví được bảo hiểm
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17147
Encrypx - Phân cấp và bảo mật email bằng công nghệ Blockchain
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=15705
Tio Tour Guides: ANN: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17512.0
Bounty: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17581.0
ITT - https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17605.0
Baner: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17654.0
PayPie: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17658.0
Hero Token: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17929.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg20890494#msg20890494
Here Token Bounty Thread: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=17942.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg20897197#msg20897197
And their WhitePaper

I think they already got all their translations done. Their site is in 5 different languages.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Pre-ICO] SocialX ☰ your decentralized Social Media Plattform ☰ on: August 03, 2017, 06:39:08 AM
with all those animated people on this thread i  have to certainly say that this is more the real life! i cant wait untill i can post my animated pic and become a real person also!

They are copying and socials ico, concept, social has their platform already, these guys are scammers, self mod thread, fake people as their team. Give neg feedback. warn people. Dont be scammed.

Feel free to check our LinkedIn profiles. Our Team is expanding every day https://socialx.network/#team 22 Members + 5 Advisors that are ready to give everything.

Make BitcoinCashX next lol, EtherX too. haha
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Pre-ICO] SocialX ☰ your decentralized Social Media Plattform ☰ on: August 03, 2017, 06:31:43 AM
with all those animated people on this thread i  have to certainly say that this is more the real life! i cant wait untill i can post my animated pic and become a real person also!

They are copying and socials ico, concept, social has their platform already, these guys are scammers, self mod thread, fake people as their team. Give neg feedback. warn people. Dont be scammed.
224  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY] HIGH PAYING BTC SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN on: July 27, 2017, 10:42:19 PM
The ICO is likely a scam OP just made up and the suckers here bite the bait of high pay.

For sure you all will be disappointed, sad to say you will all get scammed as well as the people that will believe in what you are advertising.

How is this different then the bounties who offer tokens. If ico works they get paid if it doesn't then those tokens are worthless. I'll be joining this campaign later today.
225  Economy / Services / Re: SOCIAL TWITTER CAMPAIGN on: July 27, 2017, 04:57:01 AM
Eventho the rates is really high, but don't you think it's too good to be true?
Waiting for an escrow.  And best of luck with your ico

They dont have any money right now so Escrow cannot be done.
To OP: Only newbie's and people who arent serious about their work and payment may join your campaign but not everyone.

Just 1 question : You are accepting 100 members, even if you tweet once a day and assume all 100 people retweet that, then it will be approximately 0.1BTC/day, IF YOU TWEET ONCE A DAY.
Your ICO will end 50 days from now so 5 BTC will be the total amount to be paid.
Have you calculated that.? Seriously.?

Let's say that each Retweet is worth an average of 0.0007 BTC.
If they do around 40 Tweets within there ICO period and each of the 100 members Retweets that means: 0.0007 BTC x 40 posts x 100 participants = 2.8 BTC which isnt bad.

Also,you have to keep in mind the 100 slots may take days to fill, so those users will start on those specific dates, not from the beginning. I say they are looking at 3BTC or less. which isnt bad at all. There min. goal to raise is $200,000 USD.
226  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY] HIGH PAYING BTC SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN on: July 26, 2017, 04:58:18 PM
Hey folks,

I just joined bitcoin forum and if anyone can advise if I would be eligible to join this campaign? Below is my info just in case:

Btctalk name : Mtrx92000
Rank : Newbie
Current post count : 2
BTC Address : 12gHcMtVTp86oDsGZpa2eNGgdiGNsSNbsQ
You need a higher rank to participate in this campaign. Just keep being active on the forum and you will rank up before you know it. Welcome to BCT btw.  Smiley
227  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY] HIGH PAYING BTC SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN on: July 26, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
Presently this campaign is 5% hero members, 17% senior members, 27% full members, 19% members and 32% junior members. Assuming the campaign is filled at roughly this rate, it is promising to pay out 1.1765 BTC every week, for at least 6 weeks, and if absolutely no payments are made until the end, as is the current plan, OP will owe a debt of 7.059 BTC. Newbies who ask for a loan of 0.001 BTC with no collateral or escrow are always turned down. This one is looking to owe upwards of $20,000 at once. The project's budget says that advertising will be paid with 5% of the money raised in the ICO, meaning only after raising $380,000 of ETH will this campaign be sustainable without changing the budget.

Furthermore, the minimum the contract will allow without refunding all investors is the sale of $110,000 worth of tokens. What happens if this goal isn't met? The campaign can't be paid for because all the investors were refunded already, meaning everyone wasted their sig space for 6 weeks, at least. Also, the ANN thread only has 2 pages.

Join with caution!

Hello Taras.

My name is Jade and I am the lead developer of Social.

We understand that some people may be hesitant about of signature campaign, and we can definitely understand why. If the ICO does not get over its minimum of 250,000 SCL sold, then it will not be paying out. We are very clear about these risks within the OP. In saying that, all other signature campaigns are the exact same. They promise X amount of their tokens for bounty, although if they do not get over their set minimum then the participants do not receive anything. We are in no way different from other signature campaigns besides the fact that we are offering to pay out in BTC instead of our native coin.

We decided to pay out in BTC instead of our native token for many different reasons:
- Signature campaigns are abundant now, so we had to be competitive if we wanted to get users on board.
- We are attempting to only give away a maximum of 5% of our tokens so that we can a large majority of the tokens in circulation have been acquired by real funds to provide a solid market capital foundation.
- We know that participants prefer BTC other than a token they know nothing about.
- Giving away loss tokens reduces the chances of a day one dump.

We're hoping that the ICO is a huge success. Depending on how the Pre-ICO it goes, we may make our payouts weekly to ensure all campaign participants are satisfied.

We are a legitimate business with years of hard work already behind our existing product. We would in no way want to criticize this by having a bad reputation on the platform or coin. By the looks of the analytics and traffic data, we are predicting a successful pre and main ICO.

If you have any questions or concerns I'd be more than happy to answer them.


This should be added to OP as a message from the DEV team :-)
228  Economy / Services / Re: Campain on: July 21, 2017, 05:04:06 AM
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Please remove on: July 17, 2017, 07:02:17 AM
Please remove
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] on: July 06, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
Is this for an ICO?
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - ICO Ends Today on: July 04, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
If you want to stay up to date join DCORPs slack....and sign up to their email list...
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 29, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Less then 12 hours remain https://www.dcorp.it/crowdsale    Wink
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 29, 2017, 06:47:15 PM

You're not taking into account 100% of this economy will be controlled by investors unlike other coins that are mined and given away. The only other coin that comes close is stratis. It reached $11 with a 100million coin supply (almost), they allowed mining for a month or so and gave away coins as bounties. DCORP has a much smaller supply (a tenth of it maybe), no miners, no free coins and investors have an incentive to hold (dividends?). $15 would be very cheap on an exchange i feel. $50-$75 would probably be the low here.....


Yes, it is incomplete. But I did my best ;-)

I see you are on the optimistic side, and we speak about same orders of magnitude ($50 to $100).
I wish they do.
I like what you did though, really good. Lets see where it goes...but regardless of who is right at least we both agree.....it is a winner. :-), I dont see this one being a flop. DCORP is going to be very successful. Can't wait.  Smiley
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 29, 2017, 06:16:07 PM
What price do you expect in October, when trade will be active? Any opinions?

This is the math you should make before investing...
Get ready....


A- Size of the Crypto market

If we only take the TOP50 coins (see coinmarketcap), you have
-   $100 Billion Market cap for the top50
-   $4.7 Billion traded in the last 24h
-   the $4.7 B per day are equivalent to a $1.6 trillion per year (x350)

Ratio between MK and traded volumes are = $1,600 B / 100 B = x16.5 (or 4.7% of the K on a day) (Note: 0.047 x 350 = 16.5)

B- Let’s compare to the FOREX market now:

For info:  look at the standard stock market assets value (sum of MK) = $70 Trillions in 2016. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/CM.MKT.LCAP.CD
(you can see the dot.com bubble in 1999-2001 and the 2007-2008 financial crisis and the EuroZone 2010 crisis as well)

Now, what is the most comparable to our loved cryptos is the mighty FOREX market: trading of “monnaies”. (even if alts start to behave more and more as STOCKS... another debate)

Links:
   http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-fx-peaktrading-idUSKCN0VK1UD

   http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-much-currency-is-traded-every-day-2016-9

TL;DR: we speak about $5 Trillion daily, traded or exchanged.

C- What are Derivatives?

Read: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/derivative.asp
TL;DR: It’s basically a complex financial product, on which you can leverage your gains. You can trade futures, do swaps and build complex insurances systems to hedge your positions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_derivative

<<The problem with Derivatives, is that they are like Russian dolls >>
<< aaah, you mean narcissistic and plasticmade ?>>
<< Nope…they I mean can underly from another derivative fcuktard ! Like taking an insurance on an insurance. Or betting on the fact that someone will lose a bet…>>

See it as dreams into dreams… inception like… but with real money. It can go haywire really fast if things take the sh1t route…
(Watch “The Big Short” to understand how these derivatives fcuked the market in 2010…)

Now, let’s look ONLY at the foreign exchange derivatives, to be able to compare to cryptos (I know we can argue on that, but please…I will ask you to politely stfu).

We will stick to only Interest rate based derivatives, hence the ones that take into account the currencies evolutions: “OTC single currency interest rate derivatives” -> http://www.bis.org/publ/rpfx16.htm

TL;DR: We have $5 Trillion per day traded (we know already that), and $2.7 Trillion of derivatives.
That’s the market and that is the ratio to keep in mind:  For each currency traded, you have 0.5 traded as a derivative as well.

<< man… this is gonna explode one day... insane...>>

D- Back to cryptos

Remark: One may argue that, cryptos being more volatile, you’ll have a higher tendency to use derivatives. Other can say that the products are complex and my discourage the average crypto-enthusuast… I believe that, because the crypto market is not professional (read this forum and you’ll see…),  we would have 10x less: 1 / 20 ratio then.

As we have $4.7 billion traded per day, let’s happily imagine that we may/might/potentially/maybe/probably have $240 million of derivatives.

We were uusing the forex based ratio, divided by 10.
If we consider the Alt-coins more like stock options, this value can skyrocket… And if we consider that the alts market is increasing, it is safe (lol) to imagine a $400 million derivative market here.

E- Conclusion: What is the market for DCORP?

Total supply of DRP is 6/6 Million tokens so far. They are not clear about how many will be issued, it will depend on the sharholders (DOA) Let’s take a 10M figure in the mid-term.

Ultimately, we have a $400M and 10M tokens: one token has a potential of $40.
That is if DCORP is alone on the market, which I doubt... probably we should imagine that they get 1/3 of this market, as early entrants. Exchanges could be the big bad wolf and steal the show by integrating Derivatives in their systems natively (or rely on DCORP solutions ?).
That is $15 per DRP token.

Reminder:  ICO terms are not at 400 DRP per ETH, which values to token at $0.8 per token.

at $15 You have a x20 potential here.

E- Think for yourself now...

Based on this, you can make you own opinion

1- be optimistic and imagine that derivatives will flow the cryptos market (not sure that would be a good thing, but this market is almost made for derivatives).
That would mean a DRP at $100 maybe? (let me laugh... or cry)

2- Or you can be pessimistic, and go the other way, with a DRP around $7 to $10 (still a good profit vs. the ICO).

3- Imagine that once on exchanges, nobody understands derivatives or markets, and you can imagine selling your DRP tokens for a x100 to stupid traders on the exchanges (my plan)


Good luck...

Disclaimer I put a few ETH in DCORP...










You're not taking into account 100% of this economy will be controlled by investors unlike other coins that are mined and given away. The only other coin that comes close is stratis. It reached $11 with a 100million coin supply (almost), they allowed mining for a month or so and gave away coins as bounties. DCORP has a much smaller supply (a tenth of it maybe), no miners, no free coins and investors have an incentive to hold (dividends?). $15 would be very cheap on an exchange i feel. $50-$75 would probably be the low here.....


235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 16, 2017, 06:58:20 PM
I think DRP will be worth $100-$250 when DCORP reaches the end of their road map ...especially when holders begin to receive dividends.... who would want to sell their tokens that literally pays you for simply holding it and lets you decided what projects to back ..... as time goes by the dividends will only increase  Smiley.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 14, 2017, 05:23:03 AM
Dcorp is going to be HUGE. Everyone who buys now is going to be very happy next year  Smiley
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO started!) on: June 14, 2017, 05:19:52 AM
I believe they said coins will be available with wallets on the 15th. From my chats with them they are never online at this hour.
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO started!) on: June 14, 2017, 05:03:00 AM
Any update from the admin? why this thread full of scam ...
people seem to be in a panic even though the Devs already said what is going to happen next.....I guess they expect the dev team to never sleep or something  Roll Eyes
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 13, 2017, 02:25:31 AM
ive looked thru a few pages havent seen anything yet so my question is, do the tokens automatically get sent to your MEW upon investing if so what is the custom token info so i can add it. if not than forget it lol

Yes they get sent back to your MEW instantly. Here's a video they made on how to add it to your MEW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fERhlyUhllI   Smiley
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 10, 2017, 09:17:27 PM
Just a quick question. The value of ether is shooting up right now. Does this mean the more that ether increases,  that there will be less DRP coins distributed when it teaches the cap at 9.5 million euro? Is it all relitive to the price of ether? So investors that invested early are seeing a benefit in the price of ether rising?

I believe this to be true. And its only going to keep going up.... Which is good for everyone. New investors will benefit from this to. This will give DRP more value, plus 50% of investment will be available on the platform (I believe thats the % correct me if im wrong). If ETH keeps going up when DCORP is fully released it could be a large USD amount.  Smiley

EDIT:
I could be wrong here, in the smart contract it says the following:
Quote
    uint256 public minAmount = 4137 ether; // ≈ 724.000 euro
    uint256 public maxAmount = 54285 ether; // ≈ 9.5 mln euro
    uint256 public minAcceptedAmount = 40 finney; // 1/25 ether

Lets see what the dev team says.
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