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2201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to restrain yourself at a small loss and not spend money. on: November 05, 2019, 01:31:18 PM
One can set up auto debit from bank for bills so they will not be even able to touch those funds for gambling before they are debited for good reasons. Also saving money in fixed deposit works as it won't let you withdraw money you save

This may work, for some time

But it doesn't solve the main issue, i.e. someone being reckless with their money. Yes, we can take money from children, and they won't be able to spend it on something stupid. But we expect them to grow up in due course and be responsible for their actions on their own. In this way, setting up obstacles that would prevent you from reckless spending is more like fighting with symptoms rather than the disease itself (read, you will lose this fight in the end)

But here's the catch. Time makes people mature

But does it really?

As I'm inclined to think, typically people don't change much after they are adults, which is somewhere in their late 20's or early 30's. Time changes people but not necessarily for the better. When you are set in your ways, they are kinda set in stone. Otherwise, drug addiction could be easily cured by simple abstinence, but it doesn't work that way. If you are an addict (alcohol, drugs, gambles, whatever), it is more often than not for life. You can stand back but you may relapse into your addiction at any time, which basically means your addiction didn't go anywhere and is still with you
2202  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: November 04, 2019, 04:29:55 PM
Is Wolf.bet in trouble? I see they paused their signature campaign on this forum and that is normally a sign that a site is struggling

This is not the first time they pause the campaign

Last time they had paused it, they were making some major updates to the site, and I don't think this time is going to be different. Most likely, we should expect something entirely new, like new games added or something to that effect. Though I agree that pausing the signature campaign for a couple of weeks is probably not the best approach and marketing strategy, but it is not up to us to decide. Anyway, everyone should get paid today
2203  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Как вы пользуетесь стопами? on: November 04, 2019, 12:34:04 PM
Странно, просто же должна быть ликвидация и всё. Какие долги?

На практике может быть всякое

Например, вы поставили стоп и полагаете, что он исполнится по этой цене. Но это далеко не всегда так, поскольку стоп работает немного по другому принципу. Как только текущий ценник становится равным вашему стопу или уходит ниже (как вариант, выше - в случае короткой продажи), биржа выставляет соответствующий ордер на закрытие позиции по рыночной цене, а не по цене стопа (иначе это не стоп)

На малоликвидных рынках это часто приводит к тому, что ваш стоп исполняется по цене намного меньшей от цены стопа (он может вообще полностью не исполниться). Ну и, соответственно, ваш баланс реально может оказаться в минусе в случае закрытия маржинальной позиции. С принудительной ликвидацией позиции абсолютно такая же история - позиция закрывается по рыночной цене, а не по выходу в ноль баланса
2204  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: November 04, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
Yet people can do that, all they have to do is use different addresses each time they deposit and that's it, now is that an inconvenience? Sure it is, but that doesn't mean it is an urgency, it is not a "problem" yet, it is just "I would rather not to" type of situation. Wolf should definitely look into changing that one day (which they are but will take some time) but that's about it, it is not "fix this right now!" type of situation

Let's call it a potential inconvenience (or even a pitfall, in a sense), though personally, I have no issues with that system. However, having been in crypto for so long (over 6 years already) I've seen some things (like transactions stuck for days and what not), and I know that these things can quickly turn from bad to worse, from a minor inconvenience into a major headache, into your personal hell of sorts. Technically, it is just a matter of time until they do

But overall I agree with you, it is not an urgency
2205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: November 03, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
The moment you refer to (being constantly nervous, playing much more than you should, feeling exhausted afterwards, etc) is the one where you can judge whether you are in fact prone to this particular form of addiction.

Oh my, I think I misunderstood this part, by you saying this, I thought you agreed on this;

If you are having fun with something, you feel good afterwards, full of energy and strength to do many things, things you have to do for work etc. But there is little fun in being addicted. You are constantly nervous, playing much more than you should each day, feeling exhausted afterwards etc. That's how you know that you are not having fun with something, but rather becoming addicted to it. And the earlier you interrupt this downward spiral, the better

that is why I said what I've said

Well, I can't actually say that I disagree with this part

Rather, I proceed from this further. The point is, in general you can feel that way (tired, exhausted, nervous, etc) even if there is no addiction involved. After all, you may easily get tired or nervous after some strenuous effort or troubling affair, and that's perfectly natural to feel that way. But since we are talking about gambling here, we should look into what happens next, i.e. after you come back to life, so to speak

In simple terms, if you are not of a gambling type (a would-be gambling addict), you are unlikely to continue with gambling (at least, not as much as before) as your mind wisely follows your body to prevent further damage to it that so much gambling causes. You can think of it as a kind of chopper switch which gets triggered to interrupt cold-turkey any self-destructive behaviors, and which addicts obviously lack
2206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to restrain yourself at a small loss and not spend money. on: November 03, 2019, 03:47:35 PM
One can set up auto debit from bank for bills so they will not be even able to touch those funds for gambling before they are debited for good reasons. Also saving money in fixed deposit works as it won't let you withdraw money you save

This may work, for some time

But it doesn't solve the main issue, i.e. someone being reckless with their money. Yes, we can take money from children, and they won't be able to spend it on something stupid. But we expect them to grow up in due course and be responsible for their actions on their own. In this way, setting up obstacles that would prevent you from reckless spending is more like fighting with symptoms rather than the disease itself (read, you will lose this fight in the end)
2207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: November 03, 2019, 08:21:57 AM
Anyway, as you have said, proceeding with caution is the key. And with that, caution is also to pause a while, analyze the situation like: Have you won enough already? Have I lost so much already? Should I continue or should I walk away now? It'll take just a few minutes of your time thinking about such thoughts. But it can make a huge difference that can last for a long time

If caution was indeed the key, you would stay away from gambling altogether

Given that gambling (as in dice) is pure luck, and there is no chance to win other than by luck alone (pardon the pun), you have a paradoxical situation here. Put another way, when you start on your gambling journey, you are already being reckless enough (unless you are playing for fun only, but then it is a completely different attitude, outlook and perspective beyond the "being cautious" frame). Now you want to turn around and become cautious. Does it really work in real life? More often than not, it doesn't as you can change your mind but you can't easily change your attitude (which you clearly reveal when you start rolling)
2208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: November 02, 2019, 06:45:50 PM
Now when an online casino can keep you safe from these problems, why would one go for the land based casino?

Maybe, high-class hookers as in blackjack and hookers?

Well, you can indeed ask why go to a land-based casino if you can just get along with hookers alone, but then I could ask you in turn why go to hookers if you can be as happy with your wife (or even without a wife)? This is the same with online casinos as they are more like your wife if you have one, or whatever. But if you are not quite content or happy with the package that your wife comes with, there are hookers, there are land-based casino as well to make up for the void you may feel
I might say that the example astonished me. Being honest, family has its own place and nothing can really replace it. Believe me I am getting from where you are coming but still, it would be more civilized to not compare your soulmate with casinos and no human is perfect

In fact, I didn't mean it as a comparison (as in something being better than something else)

So if that gives you peace of mind, think of it as an analogy. In other words, if you are happy with your wife (and online casinos), go for it and don't look elsewhere (as they say, no accounting for tastes). On the other hand, if wifey (or hubby, for that matter) ain't your thing, and you honestly believe that the only true love you can get is from your dog, then there are hookers. And blackjack. As in land-based casino. This is meant as a reply to a question why one would go to a land-based casino (read, to get the whole package)
2209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to restrain yourself at a small loss and not spend money. on: November 02, 2019, 06:20:48 PM
It often happens that people go out to play a variety of games of chance with a certain amount of money, but in the end they spend everything if they are gone. How to prevent which technique you base yourself on to spend no further. It's hard to just give up, people persistent in gambling that day, so they can't just tell themselves they'll try tomorrow. Why is this difficult? Is it because of greed?

There's no techniques that will work once an individual do become addicted in gambling. Because the root cause of becoming an addicted gambler is greed

I mostly agree that the self-help techniques are useless in case of real addiction

As people who could help themselves wouldn't become addicts in the first place. With that said, though, I can't agree that greed is at the root of the gambling addiction. Addiction works on a physiological level (think a knee-jerk reaction here) while greed is an entirely conscious phenomenon

If greed were indeed the cause of this kind of addiction, then losing enough would suffice to understand that you can't win, and thus you would soon stop gambling in pretty much the same way people quit trading after being disappointed by recurrent losses. But since this is not the case, greed cannot possibly make you into a gambling addict
2210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: November 02, 2019, 04:31:51 PM
I don't know how it stands in respect to "going over your limits" (probably, in this case your limits are such that you should never gamble in the first place). However, addiction means having an insane amount of fun (since otherwise you will not get addicted), but we all know the detrimental and oftentimes outright dangerous consequences of an addiction (not necessarily in gambling). So it looks like your "definition" of fun needs redefining

True, one can get addicted to anything he/she is having fun with, and gambling is far from being exception to this rule. The key is to spot the moment when your fun turns into addiction. It's not so hard to spot that moment, if by the "moment" we mean a period of time, which is several days long.

If you are having fun with something, you feel good afterwards, full of energy and strength to do many things, things you have to do for work etc. But there is little fun in being addicted. You are constantly nervous, playing much more than you should each day, feeling exhausted afterwards etc. That's how you know that you are not having fun with something, but rather becoming addicted to it. And the earlier you interrupt this downward spiral, the better

That makes an interesting point

The moment you refer to (being constantly nervous, playing much more than you should, feeling exhausted afterwards, etc) is the one where you can judge whether you are in fact prone to this particular form of addiction. And the interesting part is that if some time "afterwards", i.e. after you have recuperated a little, you feel inclined to continue with your activity, that might be an addiction (and this is where you should stop and think). But if you don't, then it is not and you don't have to do anything

I disagree. Defining what addiction or knowing how to know if you are addicted to gambling (or to anything) is not always when you are "being constantly nervous, playing much more than you should, feeling exhausted afterwards" sometimes you also feel dull when you are addicted in gambling, what I mean is too much addiction makes you lose your self, for example, when you lost your capital, you deposit again, then you win, afterwards you felt happy and gamble again, it repeats (you lose again) but it change, you deposited again and lost in a row

Could you please be more specific what you disagree with?

Just in case, I'm not defining a gambling addiction in terms of being tired or feeling exhausted. It is what happens after you recover that can be used as a telltale mark or sign whether you are in fact developing a gambling addiction or not. If you feel like gambling again, then you definitely are

Conversely, if you don't feel the intolerable and irresistible urge to play again, you just walk away without looking back. Indeed, you may play again in the future, but you will soon get bored and tired, a sure sign that you are not a gambling addict, for any possible definition of the term
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2212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to restrain yourself at a small loss and not spend money. on: November 02, 2019, 01:53:08 PM
It's a little difficult when we've played and there our emotions and ambitions cannot be resisted. although at first we have rules that have been made when it touches how much we have to stop, but sometimes we ourselves are carried away so that we spend all our money. I often experience this and in the end when we lose we regret it.when not playing we can make rules but when playing there our emotions can not stop
I dint think that it is ever  right to involve emotions in gambling in the first instance,  but sadly,  we all make this mistake several times for one reason or the other and I consider this habit really disturbing because it causes us so much loses and we are never ready to learn sadly

What's the purpose of gambling?

Right, to get excitement and personal enjoyment which are the emotions we are looking after. It makes sense to trade like an emotionless trading war machine since we are there for making profits (while emotions can lead to wrong or suboptimal decisions), but not in gambling. So the whole idea of gambling without emotions kinda beats its very purpose, i.e. to get some emotions when you feel bored and tired
2213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: November 02, 2019, 11:01:53 AM
I don't know how it stands in respect to "going over your limits" (probably, in this case your limits are such that you should never gamble in the first place). However, addiction means having an insane amount of fun (since otherwise you will not get addicted), but we all know the detrimental and oftentimes outright dangerous consequences of an addiction (not necessarily in gambling). So it looks like your "definition" of fun needs redefining

True, one can get addicted to anything he/she is having fun with, and gambling is far from being exception to this rule. The key is to spot the moment when your fun turns into addiction. It's not so hard to spot that moment, if by the "moment" we mean a period of time, which is several days long.

If you are having fun with something, you feel good afterwards, full of energy and strength to do many things, things you have to do for work etc. But there is little fun in being addicted. You are constantly nervous, playing much more than you should each day, feeling exhausted afterwards etc. That's how you know that you are not having fun with something, but rather becoming addicted to it. And the earlier you interrupt this downward spiral, the better

That makes an interesting point

The moment you refer to (being constantly nervous, playing much more than you should, feeling exhausted afterwards, etc) is the one where you can judge whether you are in fact prone to this particular form of addiction. And the interesting part is that if some time "afterwards", i.e. after you have recuperated a little, you feel inclined to continue with your activity, that might be an addiction (and this is where you should stop and think). But if you don't, then it is not and you don't have to do anything
2214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: November 01, 2019, 05:31:47 PM
Now when an online casino can keep you safe from these problems, why would one go for the land based casino?

Maybe, high-class hookers as in blackjack and hookers?

Well, you can indeed ask why go to a land-based casino if you can just get along with hookers alone, but then I could ask you in turn why go to hookers if you can be as happy with your wife (or even without a wife)? This is the same with online casinos as they are more like your wife if you have one, or whatever. But if you are not quite content or happy with the package that your wife comes with, there are hookers, there are land-based casino as well to make up for the void you may feel
2215  Economy / Economics / Re: So much for cashless society: cash is gaining in popularity on: November 01, 2019, 05:00:17 PM
Has anyone considered WHY cash is gaining popularity? Maybe if people actually worked on what was the reason then you would realize that it is a reason that helps bitcoin in general. It is actually gaining popularity because people are getting sick of banks, they are trying to find ways that is not bank related and cash is the best way

I'm not sure if this is really so

Cash gaining popularity necessarily means less use of payment cards and other forms of cashless payments, but is there any real evidence to that effect? More likely, it is just people's resistance to further expansion of these payment methods ("the rise of the unbanked") that we erroneously and prematurely interpret as banks losing their ground. In other words, we may in fact hear more voices against banks but it may simply mean some people are not quite happy with cash being steadily ousted from circulation
2216  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Whales Are Selling BTC Before Market Crash: Peter Schiff on: November 01, 2019, 12:34:08 PM
The whales could manipulate or make the market move so they would always be first in line when the price moves.

It's funny how you refer to whales as if they're working together as group to manipulate the price to their advantage. It's not like that at all. In fact, whales aren't much different from you and me in terms of market outlook and whatnot. They just have more money to invest, that's it. Percentage wise, they lose out just as much as you do if the market turns against them.

Do you think whales all cashed out at a profit last year when we went from $20,000 to $3000? They got rekt just as hard as most people did, and some even harder as they provided buy support around certain levels the many sellers easily sold through

Personally, I wouldn't use this expression in the given context

And not because I love whales so much but for the simple reason it is not truly applicable to them. It is us, simple folks, who might have gotten rekt in the last two years. But if you had, say, 20M dollars' worth of bitcoins at the end of 2017 (which you had probably bought at substantially lower prices anyway), you would still have millions at the end of 2018. In other words, you don't take into account the effects of scale here

That's the reason why the Winklevii twins and the fellas of their caliber needn't necessarily feel like they have been massively rekt, if at all. If you are a multimillionaire you don't shit your pants when your investment loses half of its value as it is not the last money you have

An example of whales getting rekt are the dozens of +$10 million institutional crypto funds that had to shut down with over 90% losses. Amongst them there were even +$100 million funds that lost +90% of what they put in. If they just sticked to Bitcoin their losses woudn't be as severe

I wouldn't call them whales as these funds are managing someone else's money (and someone else should be read and interpreted in plural here as in small fish)
2217  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: WOLF.BET ⭐️ Pick 1 number out of 100 ⭐️19 Prizes $100 Prize pool ENDED on: November 01, 2019, 11:09:01 AM
Congratz to all the winners.

If wolf.bet decides to make another round in November, will all the unpicked prizes from October be transferred to next prize pool ?


Unpaid prizes will always be added on the next giveaway prize pool, can't confirm yet if the prizes will be higher or the amount of paying numbers will increase, what do you guys prefer?

Increasing the total amount of winning numbers would undermine the whole idea (effectively turning it into a giveaway)
2218  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Халвинг Лайткоинга, чего ожидать on: November 01, 2019, 10:38:59 AM
В статье все как раз написано правильно, хешрейт упал с 458 терахэш/сек в день халвинга до 185 терахэш/сек по состоянию на сейчас, а это и есть падение на 60% хоть и день пока не закончился, но 26-27 октября были почти такие же цифры и только вчера хешрейт поднялся до 211 терахэш/сек и снова продолжил падать.
А то не график хешрейта, он тут - https://bitinfocharts.com/ru/comparison/litecoin-hashrate.html

Так не об этом вообще речь

Я же недаром привел цитату от Маркса (зачеркнуто) Марка (Твена, а не Цукенберга). Все смотрят насколько упал хешрейт за последние полгода, на целых 146%, да. Красивые цифры, не за горами похороны, че там. А то, что этот хешрейт с начала 2017 года вырос на 9500% - это мало кого волнует. Как говорится, хоронили лайт - порвали два баяна. А сколько баянов порвали при похоронах битка - не одна музыкальная фабрика обанкротилась (зачеркнуто) обогатилась
Это понятно, но мне все равно кажется что суть этих статей в другом и тут нет лжи - они прямо говорят, что с майнинга лайта все выходят после халвинга и что это что-то да значит

И что же это может значит?

Каких-то полгода с небольшим назад Лайт падал почти до 20 долларов (хорошо, пусть будет почти год назад), и стоит полагать, что там вообще никаких майнеров не должно было остаться. Однако жив курилка! Опять же, выражение "все выходят" предполагает, что там через какое-то, весьма непродолжительное время никого не должно остаться, что очевидно не так. И если полуправда не является ложью (по Твену), то это не значит, что она не может быть хуже лжи (а именно это, как правило, в реальной жизни и происходит)
2219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's worse: cigar addiction or gambling addiction on: November 01, 2019, 10:01:03 AM
In some points, smoking is not as bad as gambling but both of them are bad and they can affect anyone's lives.

If you are addicted into gambling, yep anything can be sold and be done to play the game but you can prevent it with the help of other people or relatives. You can say that cigarettes are cheap but the effects of it into our body are far worse compare to gambling addiction. Even in our country, cigarette prices doubled in the last 1-2 years I think and it can increase more in the next years which can help those who are addicted into cigarettes because they can't afford it anymore or maybe they can but they will lessen it because of lack of funds to buy.
It's actually the damage that cigarette addiction does to the victim that makes it terrible and worse than gambling because ordinarily gambling everyone would prefer cigar to gambling and to think the smoker would definitely stop smoking as soon as they finish their money but the extent of damage that's likely to done to the addicted person is unpredictable

Well, in fact the damage that smoking incurs is quite predictable

In the worst case scenario you will wind up with some lethal disease like lung cancer or anything to that effect. But can we actually gauge the damage that the addictive gambling can cause? People are known to take their lives due to their losses (and in this respect gambling addiction is quite on par with compulsive smoking), but we have not yet started to consider how toxic such form of gambling is to society in general

Gambling addicts can easily ruin not just their own lives but also the lives of many other people, and not limited to their family. They can be engaged in all forms of destructive behavior like theft, robbery, or any other criminal activity. In this way, they are very much like drug addicts. Have you ever seen, or heard about, even one smoker doing that just because of their smoking? Highly unlikely, if not outright impossible, as smoking doesn't change one's personality
2220  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: November 01, 2019, 07:29:11 AM
If the person who tops the list completes with a bigger value then the consecutive members are also supposed to wager big

Me, I don't see a lot of connection here

Though I understand why you come to think so. You implicitly, and probably even without fully realizing it, assume that everyone entering the heat (i.e. aiming to get to the list and get some dough in return) goes for the first place. But that's not necessarily so

And if it is not so, there is no valid reason either to assume that anyone who is not specifically targeting the top position of the list would wager more just because the top player wagers big. Technically, if you wanted to make it into the top 10, you would be tracking the lower bounds of that range, not the wagered amount of the highest roller
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