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Updated my signature with my nxt address. I never have used nxt before, so admit it does seem a bit confusing to me. Happy to get anything for free though.
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What???! No.... Sorry, you must be wrong. If he is NOT a mod then wouldn't it be possible that people would see his name and be confused? That would make him guilty of the same thing he has accused others of. No one would be that foolish and hypocritical...
People being foolish and hypocritical... have you been reading a different forum than I have? I expect you are just making a point, but I do wonder if anyone has seen a user with mod in their name and actually believed they were a real mod... guess it's possible. |
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I mean this with all due respect but do you think it is wise to be talking this way about a mod? Mods deserve respect and are here to help keep some order. I, for one, appreciate what they do. If a mod has an opinion that strong don't you think it should be given a significant amount of weight? If he, as a mod - a position of trust, after all - thinks the name of the coin was chosen to confuse people maybe we should listen.
Heh, he's not a moderator of this alt forum. He just stuck a 'mod' name into his username. Anyone can do that. I can make an account here with a name of AdminMod-Lead, or some nonsense like that. It doesn't make me a moderator of this forum, but just a jerk. And being a moderator of other forums doesn't hold much weight. I have moderated a gaming forum for like 8+ years and that doesn't mean a whole lot here, nor should it. |
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Just as the above poster has said about the community , it will be quite hard to find out somebody who is willing to take over a project that is not in the best shape rather than starting it as he please from strat.
But again , i'm no holder and i'm not a fan of "nation" coin so my view should be seen just as one of a casual visitor to the forum.
Agreed. Maybe one or more of the big ipo people have some dev skills,or can find a dev. No idea. I hold a measly 175 or so coins, so no big deal to me either way. I already cashed out my original tiny ipo amount a while ago for a tiny profit -- I can't lose anything, nor really gain much either. I'm mostly just posting here still out of curiosity, and the fact that I did trust the dev originally. |
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What do you mean there is a large community on this project? All I see is a dev working on a required wallet and DGW3 update with very little help from outside and a bunch of butthurt people on the forums making maple syrup jokes. There are about 20 people in the community and it will be eroded by the fact that there is a new X11 coin coming out every single day.
There is a slow burn-in plan for this currency which was freely shared at the beginning of the project. This slow plan is EXACTLY right for the rate of technology adoption we have in our little North American cultural bubble. There is nothing going on to indicate missaproriation of IPO funds or flooding of the market with huge amounts of mystery coins. There is no effort to manipulate the currency for pump and dump purposes. We have access to this information and can monitor it 24/7. Whatever the fuck do you want more?!
Actually the fact that we can't see the dev doing anything at all is the problem. The syrup is sort of meaningless (unless people here really love syrup), but if a dev won't do that one little thing, it erodes confidence. If a dev is super active before an ipo, then vanishes... again, confidence in the coin erodes. Slow burn-in is one thing. A dev vanishing or just being scarce is another. The dev can do whatever he wants with his ipo funds, so he can't misappropriate it -- if he put it into darkcoin, he'll be set for a while... The premine is also currently safe, to the best of my knowledge. People are simply thinking aloud as to backup plans, if the dev never returns. |
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Why no recreating the coin from scratch with new features the community wants (if any)? , different time block distribution of block rewards mining scrypt etc..
From my point of view it would be way better.
Are that many coins already mined?
If a new dev team wanted to fork and add more features, they certainly could. But again, whatever is done, the premine would need to be killed. The dev is sitting on half of the coins, 50% premine. |
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It's because once the community will act like a central bank (invalidating coins , decline transactions or anything close to that) there is always the problem it might do the same again but this time affecting all the users. An example... increasing 10 times the total number of coins , or halving the coins currently held in the wallets. The same discussion happened about the btc sized by the fbi , just check the reactions : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412041.0And even if you claim the community wants it , it is best for the coin this way... do you really think the community (in this case the bagholders) will always make the best choices? The community of any coin typically will vote on whatever best suits them short-term, and longterm be dammed --just human nature. I should have clarified, when I agree the coin should be forked if the dev has truly vanished, I mean a new dev team would need to take over. The community can agree or not agree on destroying the premine (which would have to happen for the coin to continue). But longterm, a new dev team would have to take over. You can't just have a coin with nobody at all in charge. And you can't have a former dev sitting on over half the coins in a premine, if a new team takes over. He can kill the coin whenever he so pleases if he ever cashes out. |
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you know im surprised by how little interest there is in this thread. i cant even believe it. its weird.
I think it's due to forum rules. You probably should ask people to PM you their addresses instead. |
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I've been saying that for a while now.... forking it + invalidating the 21 mill coins JP is holding. It doesn't matter if this is a scam or not. An inactive dev is reason enough.
Do you know that with this you're opening a Pandora box? Also curious why you say this. It's only a pandora's box if the dev is active, or semi-active. If he truly vanishes, it's the only way to proceed. |
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UPDATE
Okay, I have finished all outstanding orders. All of those people I have missed (which is a lot), I will slowly start sending out pm's with instructions.
If there are coins still available by the time XLC is listed on an exchange, I am still deciding whether I will increase the price slightly (to thank early investors). Let me know what you all think.
As a reminder, the new wallet has been released. Before you download it, please ensure ALL LitecoinPlus files are deleted or you will run into problems.
Look at what happened to LCL, tiered ipo pricing is a really bad idea in my opinion. |
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what i'm saying is the coin was created by ripple people who have an agenda to destroy/defame bitcoin(the real bitcoin) you go ask the average person they would most likely be easily confused into thinking this is somehow connected to BTC . seriously check yourself noob--and the dev ran off with all the ipo money right? and now he is pushing the same scam with xlc go figure hmmm  Actually I mentioned it to my 11 year old nephew (he was watching the screen when I was on an exchange) and he even could tell the difference between xbc and bitcoin, and understood they were different without me even having to tell him. I believe the original dev and the new team are working things out, by the way, as mentioned by serious above. he has also been very communicative toward supporting our community financially - there was simply a small time period communication breakdown which seems to have led to many misunderstandings. ** So yes, he has the ipo money, as would any dev offering an ipo. There was never a contract that said he had to put all of the ipo back into the coin ... not sure why you would assume this. As for Ripple people... and their 'agenda' to defame btc by making this coin... it sounds like you have been drinking too much ripple. |
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imho start over fresh; the scam is the name of the coin, it was created solely to deceive people...look what happened the dev and exchange pocketed over fifty bitcoins and left stuckholders...not going to fly - never If you were fooled by the name of the coin thinking it was 'bitcoin' and consider it a scam, you shouldn't be trading in cryptos. The name shouldn't deceive anyone over 5 years old. The names of all coins are simply branding... you may dislike the branding, but it doesn't equate to a scam. The exchange pocketed fees, the dev pocketed the ipo money. Which, again, isn't a scam, as ipo money going to a dev is normal. I should add that the coin is currently like 10x ipo prices, so if there are stuckholders, as you say, it's certainly not related to the ipo money or branding. If you bought during the high of a pump, it's your own fault, and once more, not a scam. |
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This is beyond ridiculous at this point. We are seemingly always close to a new wallet and then another setback brazen scam artists here from ripple purposefully created this coin to taint the bitcoin name THIS COIN HAS ZERO=== NOTHING TO DO WITH BTC  I am not ready to call it an outright scam, but this is extremely frustrating and exactly the reason why I started cryptocheese. This is very unfair that bitcointalk pretty much lets anyone announce an altcoin without any sort of checks. I am sure there are some people who are down thousands of dollars and are anticipating a new wallet but as soon as release is imminent there is a delay of some sort. I urge everyone to join my forum to hopefully get this mess of seemingly most alt coins being a pump and dump and then abandoned. It is harmful to the crypto currencies out there that are trying to build services and a solid community around their work. I fail to see a scam at all. The original wallet was faulty, so they are making a new one. They ran into delays. Where is the scam exactly? Did you invest in an ipo and they didn't send you coins? Did your PC explode due to viruses? How have you been scammed? The new dev team here has been active, so I fail to see anything being abandoned. I'd rather they take their time and get the wallet all nice and shiny, bug-free, before rushing anything out. |
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The devs can take a random word from their ann post and come up with a better sounding name: ringcoin, anonote, cryptocoin, privatecoin, sigcoin ... almost anything at all sounds better than boolberry. It sounds like a very bad cereal.
Or just stick with honeypenny and forget about it. In comparison, it's a great name.
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The two posts a month does not count as an active dev. Why is it so hard for people to grasp that he's runaway with the money? Its like everyone here is desperately trying to find other interpretations and conspiracy theories and other things and not looking at the simplicity of the matter. Even the Emirates coin guy came back to his thread to post some pics. It means nothing if his last activity was a meaningless post a week back. Why is everyone being all Hitchcock about some fundamental things like dev took money and left. And if he does come back, and goes on a condemning trip to the nay sayers monologue, what good of a dev is he? The last I remember he was quite comfortable working on the wallet AND communication in the forum. So we know he's not the type who locks himself in a room Howard Huges style and come out when the work is done. We can never have a fork unless the community and everyone accepts it... and we can't do that with a majority sitting on the fence and crossing their fingers. I've sold my stash and have no involvement in this coin. My interest is purely on an curiosity and social experiment kinda level here  Well, to me, we still need to be fair. Two weeks of relative inactivity isn't enough time, in my opinion. As for looking for other interpretations, I already stated the only things that made sense to me earlier in this thread... and there aren't a whole lot that make sense anymore besides: Dev ran off with money, or Dev is inept and has a different concept of time in the cryptoworld than just about everyone else. I sold a couple hundred of my spare quebecoins that I got from my crumb ipo profits (put them into dreamcoin to turn them into a bigger crumb). I think I have around 170 quebecoins leftover, which is more than the tiny ipo amount I started with, but it's not like they are worth anything now... so it's not like I would try to find some rationale to support the dev or find reasons why he isn't posting here. I just think we need to be fair though. For those who spent 1btc+ on the ipo, we owe it to them to give them more time before people talk about forking the coin and such. Although in reality, longterm, that probably would result in a better price for them, if the premine is destroyed. |
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I've been saying that for a while now.... forking it + invalidating the 21 mill coins JP is holding. It doesn't matter if this is a scam or not. An inactive dev is reason enough.
What counts an an inactive dev though? It's been around a week since he last posted here, that's not long enough. And I have no idea how people would even go about doing the fork. If it's like this a month from now... yeah... I'd say that would be long enough. |
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If this coin Energy Coin ENRG was only released by IPO giveaway then why didn't you guys stick together a little bit on the price?? Make a pact among yourselves to selectively trade and actively buy from those who don't comply.
Whenever a coin is given away, there are always some early dumpers. I remember people getting their community coin stakes and selling them for 10 sats/coin. It eventually went over 240. What these free ipo coins should really do is limit who gets the coins. Limit them to members or higher, and check for min. post counts + remove any troublemakers/trolls. I think too many new people are happy with anything for free, even if it's only a small percentage of what the coin is really worth. Give it some time and they'll sell off, and assuming the coin gets to poloniex or other exchanges, it'll go up. And they'll be sorry they sold. |
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I translated a thread but I didn't received my stake  I've been reaching out to Poloniex and other exchanges, but I'm not sure if that counts to get an extra stake either. I know getting listed gets 5 according to the OP, but so far I haven't heard back. Hoping the effort is worth something at least! Poloniex is worth trying. Big boys like MP, not worth it right now. I just contacted Austin Global Exchange and asked them to consider Energy Coin. A couple of smallish exchanges at least can increase volume a little bit. |
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I hate to be too negative, but you ran a contest for a new coin name, and chose Boolberry? I mean, seriously?
I hated HoneyPenny, but even that was a better name.
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I think poloniex would be the best exchange for energy now!!!
Come on lets get energy on polo!!!!!
Agreed. Although we really do need another small/med exchange to take the place of CoinEx/CryptoRush instead of just Poloniex. Right now the exchange hierarchy sort of seems to be Bittrex - Poloniex - Cryptsy/MP. Bittrex is okay to start with, but to pick up steam a coin at the very least needs to get to Poloniex. If coins like Colbert Coin can get there, I'd like to think any coin could. |
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