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2301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: October 19, 2016, 06:38:35 AM
Dice games sure are fun when you're winning but when you start having those crazy lose streaks, I don't think you'll still be in that good mood. I prefer playing card games when gambling because there's strategy and some actual thinking going on. Dice games just have random results. The only thing you can control is the bet amount and the multiplier, I find it boring.
overall i don't think dice game are so fun , as most people experienced once you get a losing streaks you would bet like a mad , keep doubling your bet as purpose to cover your previous lost then soon or later the house edge beat you and it was happened in short time.
2302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 19, 2016, 06:25:19 AM
I think every gambler should learn that,gambling should not be think as an easy way of making money becuase when i was a newbie in gambling i also thought the same and my friends also and i think its same with everyone who comes new to gambling.But there is no way to make easy profit from gambling.

Well gambling is going to be one of the fastest way to have profits if you are going to be a lucky guy. But to determine on how you are going to be lucky on each day is going to be predictable with the percentage of 0.000001% so in reality the chance of having an easy profit with gambling is really hard to make and to consider.

Yes, gambling is seriously fastest way to have profit but not a easiest way to make profit. Because no one give you gurrantee that you win every bet and as we all know that our money is totally on risky, if we lose, so may be we get lose our whole amount, and It has a big mean.
if gambling was easy to earn money the world may wouldn't as fine as now , lazy people everywhere gambling as they have an easy way to earn money why they have to struggling do a hard work out there? indeed not easy to make profit in gambling but if i have to choose i would prefer to gamble on sports and simply bet on your own favorite player/team , simply choice.
2303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 19, 2016, 05:47:29 AM
I guess there's no chance we'll be profitable everyday, not even the professionals I guess. If that would be possible then maybe most of us here are already rich and gambling sites will not boom as we have witness nowadays. Maybe, we can only win and become rich when we hit a big jackpot price like a lottery.
Someone would be rich if they are hit the jackpot in slot or lottery in some cases , as you said we can't win everyday even you're professional gamblers who plays on lucky-based games (dice , slot , roulette , etc) .
But on some peoples , who loves sport they can gain lot of profit from sportsbetting because some sport fanatic who keep tracking about sport's update can predicts which one would be win (But , we don't know what happened in that match even you're betting in low odds)

Jackpot is not a good gambling tool. Although you can potential win a huge money, the chance is extremely low. Lottery also have one of the highest house edge so that means you are more likely to lose than win. But once you manage to win, you can laugh back at me for the rest of your life.
targetting to become rich through lottery and other jackpot games aren't a good idea , you'll better to try your skills in playing poker with high stake and i believe with this way you have a better chance to become rich as long as you are good enough in playing poker.
2304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 19, 2016, 05:30:19 AM
Is staying away too difficult to do? Just stay away. That's it.
If you are too addicted and you feel like you can't stay away, bet all your money for good. If you won, bet it again. Then when you lose, you're gonna stop betting for sure.  Grin

that's a pretty straight forward way to do it and you have a very good point since you won't have any capital for betting anymore. but there are some people who, even if they have nothing, would loan or borrow money or even sell property just to keep their gambling activities active. it's really very difficult to stay away and you may need all the help you can get or if you're just starting to gamble, try to implement strict rules for yourself

but for me it is not difficult to stay away from gambling as we need to join other sources of entertainment if we do not need the source of entertainment from gambling and we need to earn money from any other source rather than gambling.
you must be didn't know how the real feeling of an addicted gambler. they know already gambling have broke their life, make your social relationship messed up and other bad things happened to you. but you don't know why keep gambling instead to stop it , as your brain have been washed. to stop gamble aren't easy!

Yes unfortunately if you are addicted or controlless of your spending money in gambling there is chance to broke your relationship, your relatives and family that you owned. So keep controling your temptation. Because we didnt what problems we encounter in the future.
gambling could really break everything around you once the addiction come to you. to avoid this happened many things you can do like just hire a professional Gambling Psychiatrist get a therapy from them. discuss with them what makes you can't stop playing. this is what people around me do once they get addicted , so far so good it works mostly.
2305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 19, 2016, 05:21:42 AM
A lot of people are saying this but its not something that is bad, gambling is not bad at all, I agree about the fact that people are saying its bad and also making it look bad too.
Gambling is enjoying and you can do it without any problem if you are doing it for the fun..
things make gambling bad are when people start thinking about how easy get money doubled in gambling and they want to make it as source income continuously. those people are too dumb to realize noone can make it . they just blind by needs of money and want an easy way but actually gambling aren't the right choice , do hardwork and get a job to get money. gamble really to have fun not to get steady income.
2306  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: October 17, 2016, 11:43:24 PM
as discussed in pm i propose another loan to zazarb with an agreement below

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I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 05/10/2016. I am asking for loan from zazarb 0.5 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM in terms 4 times repayment , 0.125+interest every 15 days + unfinished 0.125+interest from previous loan so it would be 5 times repayment from today.
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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance

the repayment schedule would be

  17th Oct,
  1 Nov,
  16 Nov,
  1 Dec,
  16 Dec,

signature verified amount sent :

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Hash: SHA512

This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 05/10/ 2016

I have funded the Loan in the amount of 0.5 BTC to poplolnman via txid
2e5627ea08851b921944a3a9d17e132826a71c04e39bf46f74d63c7c361b4579

Please repay
according to the following schedule:

  17th Oct,
  1 Nov,
  16 Nov,
  1 Dec,
  16 Dec,


 to following address: 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
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according to forum time today still 17th Oct

the first repayment of 5 times sent

b5960b3d228e14f1bf5a239aad9d64a3279770162662fedf2f7e6aecc8392ea7

Next four repayments will be made in :

  1 Nov,
  16 Nov,
  1 Dec,
  16 Dec,

Thankyou very much mate.
2307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: October 17, 2016, 11:42:07 AM
Based from my experience, when you are winning and then all of a sudden you encounter a series of losses, then your initial reaction would be doing rage bets and all-ins which would just result to you losing more instead of winning something. Ever since I learned my lesson, I have never made any rage bets again.
always hard to control over your temper. as situation when you are gambling always force you to do something stupid yeah like doing a rage bets in a couple of minutes and you burn hundreds dollar. regret come later . people have no idea to stop that stupid move as they may have addicted already and can't think so clear.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 17, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
Gambling can both fix and wreck your life. It all depends on your strategy.
Excessive gambling will surely wrecks ones life, if we gamble moderately it'll neither fix or wreck our lives. as far as i can tell gambling can't fix lives, it only wrecks. so gamble for fun not for money with lowest amount possible. Wink

Yeah right. However, if you're paying with real money just to have fun, there are other games out there that you can play for free and indeed more enjoying than gambling. I think there is really an urge to earn there when we gamble, not just for fun.

You know, when there is a money involve, it adds the thrill in gambling. However, just only play an amount that you can afford to lose because chances are, you will eventually lose. That is the hard fact - casino is designed not just for giving players entertainment but also it is designed to win, that is why there is this what we called house edge.
don't expect too much in gambling if you want to make money , it wouldn't work. just expect to get have fun and when you get money onn your winning it would give you double thrill. get fun and get money doubled. so you shouldn't expect your life could get fixed by gambling as it may just ruined your life in the end.
2309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitSler - 100% win rate - slowly but surely on: October 17, 2016, 10:45:19 AM
The moment you posted this tutorial the people who runs Bitsler is already scrambling their team to look in this method and see how this can be prevented if there is indeed a 98-100% sure win method. In gambling there is no sure win, only suckers who believe that they can beat the system.
they won't do it , as there's nothing you can expect with this stuff called winning strategy. i doubt even if this really work it wouldn't survive in the long run. any strategy or pattern in gambling that have a house edge wouldn't effect at all to the outcome , they are just too much dreaming.
2310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 17, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
Eibar vs Osasuna I think this is really going to be an easy victory for Eibar, Osasuna really never won a match from the beginning of the season. Eibar last playing at home and were able to draw against Real Madrid.
the odds seems like lured us to bet for eibar moneyline it's @1.65 , looks there something odd where the line for osasuna @5.6 and the draw @3.6 . i bet the match would ended draw but i would place my bet on double chance draw or osasuna.
2311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 17, 2016, 08:32:05 AM
actually trading is more like ponzi in nature, because always when trading if you lose some one else wins and if you profit as well some one
Else is losing money, but gambling is just for the house to win and 97% of players to lose then 3% win with the house as well.
I do not think that trading and gambling should be considered the same because with gambling you do not know that outcome and what is going to happen.
With trading you can already know for a certain extend what you can get if you trade/

No I bet its not because trading is actual findings that you have a knowledge to take over or to take profit by means of buying low on a stacks who is available as for the moment and sell it when te price is up.
yeah basically trading are about to predict uncertain price , it's same just like gamble . so if you think gambling and trading are totally different then it's wrong there is several things that similar and even same between gambling and trading but about to consider trading as gambling it's depends on how we treat both .
2312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 17, 2016, 07:24:22 AM
ENGLAND: Premier League :

Liverpool vs Manchester United => Over 2.5 Goals .

I got the under.  Too bad I won't be able to watch this game live as I'm gonna out for that night.  I will be popping in and out of this thread though and see what's up.

I really believe Mourinho will park the bus vs Liverpool.  A score line of 0 - 0 will be a big victory for Man United.
yeah i agree a draw would make them feel like won the league just like what happened last year when united under van gaal get draw and all players looks so happy. i would pick manchester united or draw double chance it's still have a good odds to try.
2313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 07:01:05 AM
Is staying away too difficult to do? Just stay away. That's it.
If you are too addicted and you feel like you can't stay away, bet all your money for good. If you won, bet it again. Then when you lose, you're gonna stop betting for sure.  Grin

that's a pretty straight forward way to do it and you have a very good point since you won't have any capital for betting anymore. but there are some people who, even if they have nothing, would loan or borrow money or even sell property just to keep their gambling activities active. it's really very difficult to stay away and you may need all the help you can get or if you're just starting to gamble, try to implement strict rules for yourself

but for me it is not difficult to stay away from gambling as we need to join other sources of entertainment if we do not need the source of entertainment from gambling and we need to earn money from any other source rather than gambling.
you must be didn't know how the real feeling of an addicted gambler. they know already gambling have broke their life, make your social relationship messed up and other bad things happened to you. but you don't know why keep gambling instead to stop it , it's like your brain have been washed. to stop gamble aren't easy!
2314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: October 17, 2016, 06:45:01 AM
Good game by Nice which they won against Lyon, they are unstoppable in Ligue 1 since there is no team can beat them so far. Too bad Balotelly's penalty was failed lol. But I'm wondering why Balotelli could played. Didnt he get a red card in previous game against Lorient?
everyone talking about how nice could be the next leicester city who have made history become a league champion as underdog , and so far so good nice are unbeatable they only get draw twice and clean the reast match with the winning . i was thinking to bet on them to win ligue 1 this season , just need to wait the right time to do this Cheesy.
2315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 13, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
to me gambling is totally risky and the only safe method of gambling is to minimize your risk of losing money through limiting your gambling if you fixed a limit and play gambling up to that limit only then you can really minimize your risk of loosing money.

Dont gambling, you can't afford to lose, gambling is risky
I also do not think there is any safe methods to gamble

There is, and for me, playing gambling with small bets can lessen our loses because if we use money that is only intended in gambling I think that is just fine to play because I think even if you lose it will be just fine because that is just the amount that you can afford to lose and you can easily move forward with it.
yeah that's right , only gamble the amount that you can afford to lose and you may could gamble safely , means you wouldn't get hurt, you wouldn't ruin your life etc. by gambling in reasonable limits you have gamble in safe way. and of course when you won it you get a lot benefit more than just fun and profit.
2316  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is Bitcoins going to die? on: October 13, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
I do not think that Bitcoin is going to die anytime soon right now because it is going to pretty good with Bitcoin at the moment I am still making some money.
I believe that Bitcoin is going to be around for times to come and it will not die yet.
the bitcoin ecosystem has been formed so well and strong , it wouldn't easy to make bitcoin taken down and die in the near future. but still there is a possibility this speculation happened as satoshi itself stated that bitcoin could be worthless or priceless all depends on its user.
2317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will price be at around $700 by end of october on: October 13, 2016, 12:37:46 PM
Looks like price is going up this days, and chances for price to hit 700 $ dollars before end of October are higher and higher. I'm reading how people say that we can hit even new record, judging from some all data's and history. I don't understand much of that but I hope they are right. And with this price increase I have more faith in things I reand here on forum.
biitcoin are full of believer lol full of optimistic people , but you should know that a lot of factor could change how bitcoin price move up or down. but as some people said that the chart shows how bullish bitcoin in last 2 weeks and it's proven bitcoin go up from below $600 to around $630 . this could keep move up to $700 even $800.
2318  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 13, 2016, 12:27:10 PM
I don't believe you can really have some profits with a low amount by trading.

I think you should set yourself a minimum of at least 200$ if you want to see some profits.

So if you did a great trade and you are at 5% profit, this profit will be 10$ which is a nice amount, but if you start with 20$ for example, and you earn that 5%, your total profit will be around 1$.


I wish you good luck at trading, and take in your mind that it has a lot of risk.


definitely right "very small amount" means even lower than $20 in my opinion that's incredibly low and even he's such a lucky trader that always got a profit by trading,it will be cut off by the fees unless he's gaining 200% profit or more
some people considering $200 as low amount by the way  Roll Eyes  , so it's depend on how much you consider 'low amount' ? let's just use a percentage. get 25% of total funds you have for trading and set a minimum profit amount to 10% each day , do a coumpound and you may could gain your low amount capital to the largest!
2319  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: October 13, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
I don't think its possible to earn a living with it at a moment as to earn a living we need to have higher income from it and at a moment I am earning only from signature campaign which is limited.
Initially I had the same thoughts as you. it is impossible to make a living from bitcoin. but after I saw some of my friends who make a living from bitcoin and they get more than a real job. after that I believe and I also do it at this time. make a living from bitcoin.

It depends on what you do in order to get more income through Bitcoin than your regular wage. If you're a highly skilled coder for example, then you can definitely make a good amount of money each month. Or perhaps you combine that with doing some regular trading. In your case, what are you doing to earn your money through Bitcoin, beside the usual signature campaign and trading thing?
yeah basically bitcoin are the world where coder live , so if you have no skill in computer stuff or coding then you might wouldn't get earned bitcoin for a living. even if you do trading and do forum posting job it's only could considered as side job .
2320  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: October 13, 2016, 12:02:19 PM
I don't think Bitcoin will carry this kind of influence when their time come, just look at the trend over the years, I have discovered that there is time for everything, the best thing is to educate them on how to make good decision in life and be able to spot opportunities around them

in a couple of years bitcoin will stop being this volatile and will become more stable and price of it will rise a lot because of the adoption. and in the far future it will be the coin of the world so keeping bitcoin for that time is a wise thing to do.
noone know what would happen to bitcoin even in the next 2 years? it could be the end of bitcoin days , or it could be the day of currency revolution? noone know . the question like what op mention are form of optimism i like it , just remember don't expect too much in bitcoin if you can't even support bitcoin.
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