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1341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you first hear about bitcoin? on: June 14, 2017, 09:29:20 AM
If I remember I heard it from a College Humor video actually. It was entitled If Google Was a Guy uploaded in January 2014, a funny 2 minute skit featuring different types of people asking Google ridiculous questions. One of the character looks like a sleazy businessman asking ‘What is Bitcoin?’ then asking its market value then saying at the last portion of the video how to “Unbuy bitcoin.” I didn’t really get the reference so I researched a little about it. Then by 2015 I have started earning bitcoin. Weird.
super weird story  Cheesy , i believe a lot of people getting started to know bitcoin come from the curiousity , it could be curious how to make money online and then you found bitcoin really interesting and have an extraordinary concept. i personally heard about bitcoin since 2011 but unfortunately i make a deep research in early 2013 and decide to start some bitcoin business in the mid 2013. mine are just an ordinary story Cheesy .
1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: June 14, 2017, 09:07:07 AM
We keep on thinking that we're finally going to make money from gambling so we come back even when we continuously lose money. It's also possible that it has become a routine of yours to be on a gambling site at a certain time or day. Let's admit it. Gambling is neither fun nor profitable. It simply has become a part of our lives so we do it.

Some people desperate to get profit from gamble even they know gamble was very risky and some people play to get both fun nor profitable. People will think they able to recover what they loss but unfortunately some people didn't make it happen due their luck not in their side. Gamble itself making people very addictive and someone who didn't have self control will easily spend their money to gamble. 
yeah a feeling that in the next try you will win the game always make everyone lured. it's delusional to keep thinking like that , especially when you have a way to think like 'one day you would recover the whole money that you have lost' . it's deadly , more than just an addict . to believe on something uncertain are completely a big mistake.
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 14, 2017, 08:38:25 AM
As long as you do not get addicted, it is not dangerous. But when you start losing your assets, you will probably ruin your life.

I agree, as long as a player keeps control over their habits they wont go broke and wont get addicted. If its your hard earned money you will feel bad after you lose and then you will end up sulking over it. Then you will go to play again in hopes of winning back your losses. That is no always possible and dangerous as well. If you chase losses that is wrong since in EV- games it only leads to more losses.
the -EV concept are exactly like that , you won't have a chance to make gambling as your source income yeah no , it won't profitable no matter what you have done. then when people insist to gamble and chase for the profit and sometimes makes people gamble like a mad , that time gambling completely wrong even in general.
1344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 14, 2017, 07:52:42 AM
In my opinion investing is by far the better choice, with investing you get a positive % on your side, even if for half a point over long term that means profit IMO, however the biggest issue is where to invest, as the risk of investing being the nature of the gambling site operator, closing the site, or even cheating the investors through betting on his own with access to seeds.
may be investment is better choice of you, but i think there are so many people who are giving preference to gambling and that reason is that they have good experience in gambling, so it different from person to person. to me  i am playing gambling for last 20 years and therefore i remain more confident while playing gambling, but i most play gambling for a limited amount of money, because i know very well that anything can happen in gambling and specially in casino gambling.
a legit investment are of course really better than a legit gambling site. an investment with high risk would still better than the low risk gambling , that's what i thought about both to gamble and to invest. as i personally have experienced something really bad regarding to gamble for over 10 years, while in investment i have no big deal.
1345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 14, 2017, 07:31:19 AM
I try to earn something with it, it's a possibility even with the house edge, as well as the feelings of playing, I try to avoid risking any big amounts of money and just the money I am willing to play with which should be the rule for anyone gambling.
Gambling is addictive, that's a known thing, and that's probably why we keep coming back.
besides the simple fact it's addictive gambling also has something that makes a lot of people interested , it was a curiousity to win huge amount . but once you have got it , you have reached that goal and cleared every single curiousity before you would have another goal in gambling and so on , it won't have an ending when you keep following your greedy instinct.
1346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 14, 2017, 07:15:33 AM
Yes i just played for 15 hours straight and i made some good profit in the end if you are going to think and always revise your strategies make sure that you are not greedy when you are loosing too much gambling is need patience and don't it to be rush gambling can really be a profitable in a long term of playing.

you mean when you gamble so calmly you might could make gambling profitable ? i don't think it so that easy. strategy or something like that basically didn't have big effect in gambling due its uncertainity that always makes a surprising outcome , gambling actually won't make anyone profitable in the long run due the fact that the games mostly -EV.
1347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future of Bitcoin on: June 13, 2017, 11:45:25 PM
With some countries that have adopted bitcoin this is certainly a positive support of course for development of bitcoin as a digital currency that has highest value in market crypto
the future can't be predicted with those small factors only. bitcoin need a lot of active user / spender to make the bitcoin itself keep circulating and survive for very very long time and has a promising business. so far so good , we all can see there's a lot of good sign rather than the bad one isn't it? hopefully.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 13, 2017, 11:34:22 PM
I feel happy, that’s for sure. You know the feeling of finding hidden money in your pants or in your drawer combined with eating the food you saved in the fridge after imagining it for a whole day? Multiply that by ten and you will feel how it feels to win in gambling. After the frustration losing money, winning in one game is really sweet. I try to enjoy while it last since I know there’s a big chance I will lose in the next round.
yeah an unexpected winning always be the best feeling ever, especially when you got a huge winning with very low amount staked. it's feel like you can do anything in this world with that money Cheesy , but usually the winning money are very fast drained as you earn it in very fast way too .
1349  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: June 13, 2017, 11:26:06 PM
Not all altcoins are waste, it seems that a few altcoins is a back up for bitcoins and use for exchange and tradings... I use my altcoins exchange to cloud mining that I got it from faucets. I can't participate regularly in exchange services due to my busy time.
cloud mining never be a good idea to grow your coins , let's think be more smart from now on. a lot of cloud mining service in the fast got bankrupt and aslo run scam for various reason and people nowadays won't believe on something like cloudmining , certain altcoin really worth to keep it for long term but when you do mining a low reputation coins and low support always better to sell it immediately.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: June 13, 2017, 11:15:42 PM
I don't think there is a limit on how much a player can really lose in gambling, if a player really got himself addicted to gambling, he could simply just sit in front of his computer and gamble everyday with his life savings, even when he lost all his life savings, he would always find a way to get a loan from his relatives or friends.

Best advice in gambling, just gamble what you can afford to lose  Smiley
The one who is very addicted can't think normal and the only thing he knows is how he will have a money to gamble like his whole world is to gamble only .It is the worst thing that gambling can make to a person .There you can limit it if you do when you play like you said spend what you can afford to lose.
at least you need to know your own limitation , otherwise everything could went wrong and have a bad ending. noone experiencing something like that right? gambling are always about how you can control yourself to hold your emotion come up and takeover the whole of you. let's say 15% of total income as a fair number for everyone.
1351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs altcoins, will they survive? on: June 12, 2017, 10:47:33 PM
Bitcoin has the capability to survive in the future, but not all altcoins can survive in the future.
But only those altcoins who build big community in this industry who will survive like eth, ltc, xem, maid, bay,
and waves.
people recently really worry about the bitcoin transaction getting slow , the fee getting high but the price itself much help bitcoin to survive until today , otherwise bitcoin might could slowly disappear replaced by altcoin breakthrough with its technology. what i believe are the cryptocurrency world would live for a longer than people expected.
1352  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: June 12, 2017, 10:20:39 PM
Because having already proven profitable, can not be disputed that the buy bitcoin now then hope future day we will get huge profit. and it's been proven over the last 3 years even 9 years after bitcoin made.
people still have a lot of concern about how bitcoin could get disappeared and consider it as the biggest scam scheme ever happened later. it's indeed bitcoin give you profit but not always as i believe there's a lot of people who just selling their bitcoin for a couple percents profit only , not as a long term investment and also used in daily basis. noone can ever make a vouch even for satoshi.
1353  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: That moment when you buy 1BTC at $2500 on: June 12, 2017, 10:06:29 PM
both risk and opportunity exists. just remember one thing: don't regret on your decision Smiley
that's true, when you decide to buy bitcoin in its highest price and to folllow the latest market trends you should use your spare money , not a hot one. to anticipate something like this, you bought it for really expensive but then the price just get drop. be a smart trader/investor. you need a lot of backup funds, so whenever this happened to you , you could simply put it for longer time.
Yes that is truth, if some person make a mistake and buy bitcoin at high price, and not long after price drop, only option they are leaved with is to wait for bitcoin price to go above price they paid. And as we all know, price of bitcoin has been rising a lot, so i guess even if that happens, it is not bit of a problem. I think that price of bitcoin will reach 3000 dollars till end of this month.
it's not a big deal when you hold a lot of money, but when you aren't in that kind position then what would you do? you need to have a well prepared long term plan, otherwise everything could just go wrong instead you have profit you would get a panic selling attack and lost a lot of money, beware.
1354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How test a new gambling site? on: June 12, 2017, 09:58:23 PM
If you want to test a new gambling site make sure to deposit small amount or amount that you can afford to lose. If you win then try to withdraw and if the withdraw is success then the site is legit. Don't forget to check the provably fair too.
Yes i agree with you, make deposit small amount of bitcoins that can afford to lose due to
 investing in new gambling website is dangerouse, actually i don't like try to something new service
 but if i try their service usually i wait and see the reviews from the users who has tried the service.
a new site aren't for a high roller , they would never risk their money for the sake of testing , better to looking for an established and trusted site rather than risking money for something that uncertain and no fun at all. but if you insist to do it , just make your own research start from how they manage the site if you think there's something wrong like the promo are too good to be true and the site interface are so poor etc.
1355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 12, 2017, 09:47:07 PM
The main aim is to make some profit, but there's some fun involved too - some people like the moment when you're about to place a bet with the hope to win, and it's a good feeling when that happens

I'd recomend you to play only for fun and not for profit, because if you will play for profit only you might get addicted to gambling soon, while if you gamble for fun only you won't be. It's like basketball players, they play basketball for fun, it's their hobby and for that they also get money, you should think of gambling in same way, fun activity, just that you might get money from it

Nice analogy there mate. If this is our way of mind setting, we wont get into trouble with gambling because we are not after for money but just fun - no stress only fun! And if we win, that will be an added bonus for us, cheers! Wink
that's never be easy to do exactly like what you said , once you have got a nice winning you wouldn't feel necessary to gamble for other purpose but for profit. and then when you get a lost moment no wonder you would keep looking for your winning moment , that time gambling could make you to do something crazy, you have got addicted.
1356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: June 12, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
You can ask the people who've lost a lot of money or those people who had their lives ruined if gambling taught them a lesson. Hard lessons are learned when we make mistakes and one of the biggest mistakes you can ever commit is to be addicted to something like gambling. There are a lot of true stories when people lose not only money but their loved ones and the respect of other people for the sake of gambling. And the lessons these people learned can also be a lesson for other gamblers so that their mistakes can be avoided
sometimes greedy could make you blind to realize about how gambling have made your whole life messed up , mistake after mistakes and you learned about it temporarily as in the next days you might would change your mind and forgot about how actually you shouldn't repeat the same mistake. the instant winning potential always hook you to back to play and stake everything you have.
1357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: June 12, 2017, 09:16:07 PM
Experience does not matter in such games where you can only rely on luck. I have been playing for years, but I can not win a jackpot.
Maybe experience does not help you make you win a game in a luck based games but it can help you in making a matured decision to manage your money which is at risk. Gambling is risky, you can lose everything you have but with experience you can avoid that since you have learn lessons in the past and you will not gonna make the same mistakes again.

Agree with you 100%. Experience will not help us to win the game in gambling, but experience can help us in making a decision.  
Recalling events that we have experienced before will make us more careful in stepping. Yes I guess you've explained it pretty clearly. It will really helpful.
- Exactly, experience helps us avoid making wrong decisions although it can not help us win but it limits certain risks, that is also a good thing for us. We can not win but we should not lose too much money, experience is a very necessary and important factor in gambling. If we just rely on luck, surely we will never keep profits in gambling because lucky do not follow us forever but experience will follow us forever, it will tell us what the next thing to do, help us not fall into the trap, helps us not to play gambling silly and based on emotions
nothing useless and nothing guaranteed you to could always win in gambling , so you might should to consider experience as an important factor but not the only one thing that could take a huge effect on your bets winning/losing. don't treat it like experience are everything , gambling still gambling there would be an unexpected outcome and people usually didn't anticipate about it.
1358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dear Bitcointalk Community, please change your perspective about Bitcoin! on: June 09, 2017, 09:27:47 AM
Money makes the world go round, don't forget that. It's true that maybe at the begininig Bitcoin has engaged and gathered a lot of enthusiasts and visionaires but with time a lot of different people was attracted to Bitcoin with main purpose to get their share of profit and opportunity to make some money.
And I don't think this should necessary be wrong thought some would like to see more idealists.

it's good to see a lot of people get interested in bitcoin , but when the majority bitcoin user have a purpose to make it as a digital asset then the main purpose of bitcoin invention as a payment processor could get disappeared slowly. always needed to remind people about this , greedy sometimes make people forgot about the beautiful bitcoin purpose for the better financial world.
yes that is right.  there is no doubt that the popularity of bitcoin increasing from time to time but in fact they do not have all the facilities that we are expecting from  bitcoin. and which are available to us in fiat,  and that is the reason that most of the people are using bitcoin for trading and investment purposes, and not using it as currency, but in future we can expect that in future people will be using bitcoin as currency for purchasing everything they want.
everyone should expect about that thing otherwise the current ecosystem could just go broke and disappear. noone want it happened right? when people make bitcoin keep circulating by used in every single day , buy and spend it just the way people use fiat in daily life i believe the longer bitcoin could survive in financial technology world.
1359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: June 09, 2017, 08:45:42 AM
It's greediness, you change directly your initial plan once you have achieve it, instead of stopping and take the win you still go to make more.
With that attitude within us, we will never gonna succeed, gambling is for wise people in order for you to stay.

Thats pretty much sum up how stupid you are, you would probably want to recheck what you have written. Wise people dont gamble, period. Everyone knows that you cant almost win in the EV- games so why even bother trying it. Some people are smart enough to avoid it and only play EV+ games to get profit.
sometimes gambling not always about making profit , for specific reason some people really feel enjoy gambling , those people who force themselves to gamble for profit and looking for certain games that mathematically could bring you profit are the one who can't completely enjoy the game , you can't judge that everyone gamble for money for making profit, you must be have a little bit friend only when you say that. always think twice before you start to gamble to avoid any mistake.
1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: June 08, 2017, 04:04:08 PM
It is true that giving up gambling is not that easy to do in the actual. It may takes time or process before make it happens,
But for others opinions according to them, if you really wanted to change or to give up gambling addiction it will only happen if you decide it now to leave or stop it anymore.
It is really only on ones self if hes willing to quit or not on playing gambling because no matter other will try to help you if you are not willing to quit then it would be still useless.Once addiction comes to yourself it is really hard to remove because you sill really play gambling no matter what as long you do have the addiction.
that's true, never easy to completely quit from gambling when it comes to addiction. unless if you didn't get addicted yet , there might some chances for you to have an exit door. but still it would be hard but at least it wasn't as hard as when you have got addicted. there's always a way out for those people who clever enough to find it.
I think you're wrong with your idea of not completely easy, why isn't easy? Its because you don't wanted to changed yourself and despite of quiting for good you let yourself addicted in gambling. No one could help you to quit, no other than but yourself; so if you wanted to quit in an easy way you should be more open to suggestions on this forum, and even friends who cared for you. Try another diversion of the money you have either bitcoin or from fiat cash money investments, than can make good profit rather than wasting it through gambling investments.
well everyone want to become rich too , but they don't know how to reach it, everyday they put a lot of effort to reach that goal but nothing changed. the same case just like when you really want to give up and quit gambling forever. but you don't know what to do as the game and the winning potential always hook them to go back to gamble. now can you see it ? i hope so.
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