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2301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 15, 2014, 01:03:33 AM
can i aks my BTC donation back in the Hacker event?

 Grin
busoni you are a honest guy, i like you.

hope you can handle this tough thing correctly.

thanks


Cheesy You actually can, I don't hold people to that.

It is pertinent that the coin was hard forked to change the maximum supply. We have not examined all the changes made, but this may strengthen the case for the MAX_MONEY issue being negligence rather than laying the foundation for a nefarious plan. Nevertheless, the variable could have been deliberately left unchanged for the same reasons, and in any case, it indicates sloppy coding that opens the coin up to, for example, a much larger double spend attack. We're going to look into this further, but an apology may be in order for not coming to dev privately first.

There is also the issue of the anon implementation proposed, which even by the dev's admission is highly vulnerable to "cheating." I would never list a coin that relied on the honesty of people operating a mixing pool. It would be trivial for them to steal coins and impossible to prove that they had done so.

i do hope supercoin dev can communicate with you directly. but he is sleep now.

i hope you can handle this correctly.

about the cheating node, it seems XC coin and Darkcoin also has similar issues, Please check this. XC coin use Xnode, in first stage it’s also have some cheating problem. dark coin use masternode which also not a 100% safeway.  Although Bitcoin survive the 51% attack several days ago.

busoni, my friend, Please think this again or wait for the Supercoin dev give your a reply later, no need to make a rush decision.

thank you very much. i will keep Support Poloniex.
2302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 15, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
if the price keep the same as now, i will put some big buy order 10 hours later.

must sleep now. Grin
2303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 15, 2014, 12:22:51 AM
Here is a Simple a analysis on Supercoin reasonable price after Anon wallet release

Until now, only Dark coin and XC coin has some Anon features

Darkcoin has a worked mixer but also some problem with their master node
XC coin has a test net mixer and do not worked Anon wallet yet, they will have a version2.0 two weeks later.
Vericoin do not have a Anon wallet, they only have a development plan
Supercoin has a Anon wallet on testnet.

Dark coin Current total supply   is 4.3 Million, the Price is 1.7 Million Satoshi/11$
XC   coin  Current total supply  is 5.5 Million, the Price is  130K Satoshi/0.84$
Vericoin Current total supply    is  26 Million, the Price is   15K Satoshi/0.1$
Supercoin Current total supply is  10 Million, the Price is   3K?Huh/0.018$???

personally i think we have done much work on Anon features than Vericoin

so the reasonable Supercoin price at least hit 15K*2.6=37.5K Satoshi
if we compared with XC coin, the reasonable price will hit 60K Satoshi.


now the Current Supercoin price is only 3K Satoshi.

so what are we waiting for???. Grin


2304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 15, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
its hard to believe after all this we have a working anon function

+1
2305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 15, 2014, 12:11:08 AM
can i aks my BTC donation back in the Hacker event?

 Grin
busoni you are a honest guy, i like you.

hope you can handle this tough thing correctly.

thanks

2306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 15, 2014, 12:10:10 AM
can i aks my BTC donation back in the Hacker event?

 Grin just kidding.

busoni you are a honest guy, i like you.

hope you can handle this tough thing correctly.

thanks
2307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 15, 2014, 12:04:28 AM
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old?

The max coin limits the maximum coin,
but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all.

The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:

- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()

These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
2308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 15, 2014, 12:03:42 AM
to list super coin or delist sc and cinni ,that is the question ? crypto Hamlet

 Smiley
2309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:52:33 PM
busoni should have first spoken to dev. he could have waited to add super coin or not once spoken to him many have lost money over this

+1
2310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:47:49 PM
Max money isn't really what you are saying it is but its good to not list it due to lies

hi iGotSpots

it's not a lie, Poloniex missed the Supercoin hard fork.

but it seems supercoin dev also make a mistake.

ps: Supercoin has released their Anon Wallet.

check it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.0

 Smiley
2311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:43:46 PM
Supercoin dev will be very happy seeing such community backup on this coin when he wakes up. Grin

+1 we will overcome this tough time.
2312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:43:03 PM
lets look at nicer things



wow, great, you deserve a bounties.

give me your Supercoin address, i will send some supercoin to you.....
2313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:41:32 PM
OK, let me tell (or teach, for some) you how the total coin is calculated:

1st, look at this function
Quote
int64_t GetProofOfWorkReward(int nHeight, int64_t nFees, const CBlockIndex* pindex)
and this
Quote
int64_t GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor(CBlockIndex* pindex)

1st function calculates the regular pow payout, and the 2nd calculates the superblocks.

Now, block 1 = 2.5 mil coins (was a mini IPO I think)
block 2 - block 19200: 512 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 256 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 128 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 64 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 32 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 16 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 8 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 4 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 2 coins/block
afterwards: 1 coins/block

now the pow will be cut off at 1-2 coins/block.

Next, look at the superblocks: superblock
   - Every 3 hours there will be a block with 4X normal payment (initial 2048 coins)
   - Every day there will be a block with 16X normal payment (initial 8192 coins)
   - Every 5 days there will be a block with 128X normal payment (initial 65536 coins)

So at initial phase, the 1 block day average coin is:
1 day = 960 * 512 + 8 * (2,048 - 512) + (8,192 - 512) + 1/5 * (65,536 - 512)
   = 491,520 + 12,288 + 7,680 + 13,004.8
   = 524,492.8 coins

Total = 524,492.8 * (20 + 10 * 0.5 * ( 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... ))
   = 524,492.8 * 10 * (2 + 1) = 15,734,784 coins

This adds 2.5 mil mini IPO, total PoW = 18.2 millions.

On top of this, you can calculate the PoS, PoS is difficult to calculate precisely, but you can estimate max possible value. My estimate is that it is under 50 millions as devs of Supercoin said.

Simple math, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin


Questions? I can explain each and every number if needed Grin

no question. it's the truth.
2314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:37:55 PM
1 ask mintpal add supercoin directly on mintpal

send email to support@mintpal.com

such as


hi

mintpal


Please add Another Anon coin- supercoin directly on mintpal, they have some big volume on bittrex.

if you add it on mintpal, i do believe that's will bring big volume on mintpal.

Because so far only Dark XC and Supercoin has worked mixer and Anon features.

Please add it directly, thanks


Supercoin Ann post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.0

Anon features:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7244842#msg7244842

Big volume on bittrex:  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SUPER

Add it Please!

2 Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform add supercoin on Bter!

http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

still works. let's do something good for community.

Send Emails guys, more exchanges will add Supercoin soon.

2315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
busoni must stand out to apologize to those ppl lost bunch of money and SUPER dev.



it's true.

they make some mistake, hope busoni can handle this thing correctly, he is a honest guy, i also donate him 0.7 BTC on the Poloniex Hacker event.

2316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:34:30 PM
busoni must stand out to apologize to those ppl lost bunch of money and SUPER dev.



it's true.

they make some mistake, hope busoni can handle this thing correctly, he is a honest guy, i also donate him 0.7 BTC on the Poloniex Hacker event.
2317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:31:49 PM
OK, let me tell (or teach, for some) you how the total coin is calculated:

1st, look at this function
Quote
int64_t GetProofOfWorkReward(int nHeight, int64_t nFees, const CBlockIndex* pindex)
and this
Quote
int64_t GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor(CBlockIndex* pindex)

1st function calculates the regular pow payout, and the 2nd calculates the superblocks.

Now, block 1 = 2.5 mil coins (was a mini IPO I think)
block 2 - block 19200: 512 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 256 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 128 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 64 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 32 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 16 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 8 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 4 coins/block
next 9600 (10 days) blocks: 2 coins/block
afterwards: 1 coins/block

now the pow will be cut off at 1-2 coins/block.

Next, look at the superblocks: superblock
   - Every 3 hours there will be a block with 4X normal payment (initial 2048 coins)
   - Every day there will be a block with 16X normal payment (initial 8192 coins)
   - Every 5 days there will be a block with 128X normal payment (initial 65536 coins)

So at initial phase, the 1 block day average coin is:
1 day = 960 * 512 + 8 * (2,048 - 512) + (8,192 - 512) + 1/5 * (65,536 - 512)
   = 491,520 + 12,288 + 7,680 + 13,004.8
   = 524,492.8 coins

Total = 524,492.8 * (20 + 10 * 0.5 * ( 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... ))
   = 524,492.8 * 10 * (2 + 1) = 15,734,784 coins

This adds 2.5 mil mini IPO, total PoW = 18.2 millions.

On top of this, you can calculate the PoS, PoS is difficult to calculate precisely, but you can estimate max possible value. My estimate is that it is under 50 millions as devs of Supercoin said.

Simple math, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin






+1
2318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:26:32 PM
if you do not want to see more FUDs, just choose the ignore button.

 Grin
2319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:19:28 PM
1 ask mintpal add supercoin directly on mintpal

send email to support@mintpal.com

such as


hi

mintpal


Please add Another Anon coin- supercoin directly on mintpal, they have some big volume on bittrex.

if you add it on mintpal, i do believe that's will bring big volume on mintpal.

Because so far only Dark XC and Supercoin has worked mixer and Anon features.

Please add it directly, thanks


Supercoin Ann post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.0

Anon features:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7244842#msg7244842

Big volume on bittrex:  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SUPER

Add it Please!

2 Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform add supercoin on Bter!

http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
2320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:16:11 PM
If you want Poloniex add Supercoin again, you can say some kindly here for Support Supercoin.

they may make their decision again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.0

thank you very much for your Support.
 Wink

+1
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