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2321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
someone put out a bounty to kill abinito

We can meet if you want. Do you live in Europe?

PM me.

no attack on each other guys Please.

if you think supercoin is a good coin, buy it
if you think supercoin is a scam, sell it.

it's simple.
2322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:07:27 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351

lmao, this is a complete joke, if this is done by poloniex tech staff, I feel really sorry to them  Grin

Here is a reply from a forum member (timerland) to that accusation:

Quote
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old? The max coin limits the maximum coin, but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all. The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()

These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke! Grin

This member stated the fact. These 3 functions determined how many coins will be generated. The MAX_MONEY is largely irrelavent. All it does (and the dAmount), is to check each transaction if this limit exceeded.

I can't believe this, it's like a circus Grin

Yes, and also you can set the upper limit to be 10000000000000000000 trillion, but only generate 15 millions, is there a problem there? someone is completely idiot.

If you want to know how many coins will be generated, look at the functions generating them, not the limit. Idiot!

Again on this MAX_MONEY, for those who does not understand the code, here is where it used:

Quote
bool CTransaction::CheckTransaction() const
{
 ...
        if (txout.nValue > MAX_MONEY)
            return DoS(100, error("CTransaction::CheckTransaction() : txout.nValue too high"));

What does it mean? It mean if this *transaction* amount exceeds the MAX_MONEY, return error.

Does it check how much money you have? Not at all. You can have 10 times MAX_MONEY in your wallet!

Does it check how many coins the system generated? Not at all.

So MAX_MONEY does not limit the system generated total coin at all!

Idoits, follow and learn... you'll never get it!


I really hope this is not the real poloniex staff, I kinda like Poloniex and used it often. If it is, then Poloniex code needs some serious review, I don't want to lose money there Grin Grin

i lost 0.7 BTC on the Hacker event, but i donate to them...
2323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
to list super coin or delist sc and cinni ,that is the question ? crypto Hamlet

 Smiley
2324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:04:01 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351

lmao, this is a complete joke, if this is done by poloniex tech staff, I feel really sorry to them  Grin

Here is a reply from a forum member (timerland) to that accusation:

Quote
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old? The max coin limits the maximum coin, but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all. The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()

These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke! Grin

This member stated the fact. These 3 functions determined how many coins will be generated. The MAX_MONEY is largely irrelavent. All it does (and the dAmount), is to check each transaction if this limit exceeded.

I can't believe this, it's like a circus Grin

Yes, and also you can set the upper limit to be 10000000000000000000 trillion, but only generate 15 millions, is there a problem there? someone is completely idiot.

If you want to know how many coins will be generated, look at the functions generating them, not the limit. Idiot!

Again on this MAX_MONEY, for those who does not understand the code, here is where it used:

Quote
bool CTransaction::CheckTransaction() const
{
 ...
        if (txout.nValue > MAX_MONEY)
            return DoS(100, error("CTransaction::CheckTransaction() : txout.nValue too high"));

What does it mean? It mean if this *transaction* amount exceeds the MAX_MONEY, return error.

Does it check how much money you have? Not at all. You can have 10 times MAX_MONEY in your wallet!

Does it check how many coins the system generated? Not at all.

So MAX_MONEY does not limit the system generated total coin at all!

Idoits, follow and learn... you'll never get it!


+1

The max coin limits the maximum coin,
but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all.

The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:

- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()

These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
2325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old?

The max coin limits the maximum coin,
but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all.

The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:

- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()

These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
2326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 14, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
Here is a Simple a analysis on Supercoin reasonable price after Anon wallet release

Until now, only Dark coin and XC coin has some Anon features

Darkcoin has a worked mixer but also some problem with their master node
XC coin has a test net mixer and do not worked Anon wallet yet, they will have a version2.0 two weeks later.
Vericoin do not have a Anon wallet, they only have a development plan
Supercoin has a Anon wallet on testnet.

Dark coin Current total supply   is 4.3 Million, the Price is 1.7 Million Satoshi/11$
XC   coin  Current total supply  is 5.5 Million, the Price is  130K Satoshi/0.84$
Vericoin Current total supply    is  26 Million, the Price is   15K Satoshi/0.1$
Supercoin Current total supply is  10 Million, the Price is   3K?Huh/0.018$???

personally i think we have done much work on Anon features than Vericoin

so the reasonable Supercoin price at least hit 15K*2.6=37.5K Satoshi
if we compared with XC coin, the reasonable price will hit 60K Satoshi.


now the Current Supercoin price is only 3K Satoshi.

so what are we waiting for???. Grin



+1

thank you for your support!
2327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
1 ask mintpal add supercoin directly on mintpal

send email to support@mintpal.com

such as


hi

mintpal


Please add Another Anon coin- supercoin directly on mintpal, they have some big volume on bittrex.

if you add it on mintpal, i do believe that's will bring big volume on mintpal.

Because so far only Dark XC and Supercoin has worked mixer and Anon features.

Please add it directly, thanks


Supercoin Ann post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.0

Anon features:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7244842#msg7244842

Big volume on bittrex:  https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SUPER

Add it Please!

2 Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform add supercoin on Bter!

http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

still works. let's do something good for community.

Send Emails guys, more exchanges can prevent multipool's big dump.
2328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
In any event, the code/daemon was not ready for the exchange.

Fix the code, submit it again, then it may make it. Obviously, it didn't have any actual support if it dumped. Obviously, that supporting price was a false illusion. Does that when people buy and sell their own coins to make it look like volume is high. Sell the same coin 100 times, it looks like 100 units of volume. Reality was, it was 1 unit of volume, which cost a small fraction in trade-fees, to make it look 100x bigger than it actually was.

Seems we need to have a "Formula", which is locked within the GENESIS-BLOCK-SEED, so it can't be altered and can easily be identified. Even if only a representation, like hard-coding the MAX-BLOCK-COINS and MAX-STAKE-COINS, or other limits. (Even if unlimited. For those coins without limits.)

Then it will not matter what code is used, as long as it fits within the hard-coded limits, which have to check against the GENESIS-BLOCK-SEED. (That only requires "digging for a genesis block seed", with a corresponding value.)

However, the old trick of just generating a "valid" seed, would no-longer be acceptable, since it has to be valid, and with a specific corresponding output comparison.

In any event, that code is essentially useless, if it is beyond the range of possible coins. Like 0.00000000 isn't even possible anyways. While checking to see if it is below 150,000,000 when the max total will only be 50,000,000 is equally as redundantly stupid. The only reason for it, would be so someone can do a massive double-spend attack, or other block-altering, which will not harm the network as a whole, just those who are on the same altered chain as them. Which, the program we ALL USE would say... Sure, a spend of 100,000,000 is OK, it's under 150,000,000.

However, I would review some of the other coins now, for that same issue. Time for someone to update their instant-auto-coin-maker programs.

P.S. The price of SUPER was falling before they said anything. You are getting mad because the crash just happened to continue, after the news. (News which few people read. Not that moving a coin to another exchange actually adds value, it decreases it anyways. You expose it to more people who want to dump.) Don't get your causality construed.

Not it wasn't. Dev released the testnet anon wallet few hours ago and it was clearly on ts way up as it rose nearly 50% before this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7311847#msg7311847

I do agree that it's good that busoni is checking the code thoroughly. That's is actually reassuring.
But he shouldn't publicly call out a coin as a scam when it's currently harmless and without speaking to the dev first.
His initial reasoning was also debunked as 150 million was valid before the recent hard fork. So it wasn't new.

+1
2329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:40:18 PM
Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.

2330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Dumped all your coins?

Or you are the mysterious dev?

The truth has come out guy Wink

why i dump all my coins when i know the price will hit at least10k satoshi in few days?
 Grin
2331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:33:32 PM
we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.
2332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
If you want Poloniex add Supercoin again, you can say some kindly here for Support Supercoin.

they may make their decision again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.0

thank you very much for your Support.
 Wink
2333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Anon Wallet in Testnet Released Now on: June 14, 2014, 10:26:10 PM
100% agreed. Polo should list supercoin with no transaction fees for a week
2334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
busoni

Please add Supercoin on Poloniex.

thank you very much. Smiley
2335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin on: June 14, 2014, 10:21:09 PM
it seems there are some misunderstanding on Supercoin total amount, the old total amount is like you said,

but Supercoin do make a hard fork several days ago.


please check this:

Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.

thank you very much busoni, i like Poloniex, and i do want supercoin be lised in Poloniex.

Please think this again.

much appreciated!
2336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 14, 2014, 04:23:02 PM



I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's


I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE



it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address

that's great!
2337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 14, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
Provenceday, you might want to use the quotation features a little better to prevent confusion.

For example (emphesis added):
Agreed most of parts.

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop.  Well again remember we  are here to service you :-)

So relax

haha thanks Grin
2338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 14, 2014, 04:20:27 PM
again no one here is doubting whether the coin is good, its about whether the rise will be sustained. would you buy knowing someone is waiting to dump

you are right, hope Community can discuss this issue next week. Smiley
2339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 14, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours

 Grin

look this guys, forget Multipool. Grin

multipool will kill momentum and that quote is yours not dev

no,not from me, it's from dev

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop.  Well again remember we  are here to service you :-)

So relax
2340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 14, 2014, 03:31:45 PM
We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours

 Grin

look this guys, forget Multipool. Grin
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