Wrong.
Science is not a religion. You say that theories are acknowledged by scientists to not be facts?
Well that's the very difference between theories and theorems... But only few theories remain. Most science aspects have been proven right now.
Could you give an example of a scientific theory that is not proven? Cause the only ones I see are... Well no scientist "believe in them" they just find those theories interesting and we think it MIGHT be the answer but that's all.
I agree with you that science is not religion. So you are wrong with your "wrong," because I didn't say that science is religion. Belief in science theory as fact is religious belief.
Looks like you didn't say that the first time.
If science theories had been proven, they would be science laws. The fact that they remain theories shows that they have not been proven.
Most of them are laws yeah... Do you have an example of what is called a theory and not a law? People who believe unproven things to be fact, have religion going for themselves. Science theories are not religion. Only the people who believe that they are factual when it is not known, are the people who have a religion going for themselves in the science theories.  Nobody says that... I don't understand what you're saying... I had been accused of saying that science is religion. I was using the statement Science theories are not religion to show that I understand that not even science theory is religion. Look at it this way. Imagine that a sculptor makes a little statue. He carves it out of stone, or maybe even wood. It is a nice little statue. Is it religion? Of course not. If people start to worship the little statue, they have a religion regarding the little statue. The statue itself is not religion. Yet, the worshipers have a religion regarding the statue. In a similar way, science and science theory are not religion. But if people "worship" science theory by calling it truth when it is not known to be truth, they are starting into their own religion regarding the science theory involved. And their religion is exceptionally religious if they KNOW that the theory has not been proven to be fact, but they treat it as fact anyway. Big bang, relativity, evolution, and black hole theories are not known to be factual. They are not laws. Big bang is not known to be something that could exist. But if it were know to be possible, it still would not be known to have been the way the universe came about. Relativity still has strong opposition in other things. It is not known to be fact. Evolution should have been dropped as theory long ago. The whole thing is just stories, most of which do not fit what has happened. But if the stories fit, there are other things that fit as well, making evolution something that should not even be considered theory. Black holes exist. Black hole theory tries to explain them. So far, nobody knows if the theory fits what is actually happening in a black hole. Black holes are fact. Black hole theory is not known to be fact. People who know that theories are not necessarily factual, but believe them to be factual, must be betting in the lottery a lot. For them, science theory is like a religion. If they are adamant "believers," the theories are a religion for them. |
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So off grid, they're even off land! Married artists Wayne Adams and Catherine King began building their floating home off Vancouver Island 25 years ago
The compound is always transforming; the couple add structures and repair damage from storms, which can be quite severe
Freedom Cove runs on solar energy and generators and a fresh water system Wayne constructed
The couple make trips to land every two weeks and joke about feeling 'landsick' when they leave their beloved floating paradise
The compound includes gardens, a dance floor, a garage for boats, living and artistic space
Wayne and Catherine operate an open-door policy and invite curious tourists into their home, showing them around Freedom Cove and giving them homemade candles as parting gifts
They say their lifestyle has been a 'learn by doing' experience - teaching them, for example, to anchor Freedom Cove with weighted ropes during storms
Much of their daily routine focuses on maintenance and the couple say they were aware of hardships and risks, but they would not want to live any other way. Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4500142/Meet-couple-ve-spent-25-years-floating-home.html.
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Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?
If the existence of God is not possible to disprove, and you know it, why attempt to believe that He doesn't exist. Why not simply say "I don't know?" Atheists might have a more pragmatic approach to faith. But they don't believe that God doesn't exist like they say that they believe. Rather, if they are honest people, they believe that they don't know if God exists or not... because they can't prove that He doesn't, and there are lots of places and opportunities for God TO exist. Do you know for a fact that the precautions you take to remain healthy are going to work? No, not for sure. But you take them, anyway. Do you know for a fact that God doesn't exist? Perhaps not. But it is totally unwise to disallow Him with something like atheism, when you know that you might be wrong, and might be winding up fighting against a being Who is way more powerful than you are. If you think you know that God doesn't exist, prove it. Simple talk proves nothing. Adamant talk based on nothing is religion. You are trying to find evidence to the contrary. You don't just believe in the existence of God you believe in that he is able to do something. But you have never seen examples of his work. So I guess it is not. Prove that God doesn't exist, then. Since you can't, He might exist. Atheism fails. People who say that they are atheists are only trying to be atheists. They aren't really. Of course, we can change the definition of atheism. |
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I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination. Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why? Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work. Less malnutrition and constantly improving sanitation mostly, and that is directly associated with wealth. Looking at the charts, it's pretty clear that vaccines had little or nothing to do with the decline of various infectious diseases. These snake-oil salesmen saw a trend and tried to take credit for it. Successfully due in no small part because the same basic people also own the media and 'control the narrative.' They also basically own the curriculum from k --> {n} and teach people NOT to think for themselves. From: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/ Note that Scarlet Fever never did have a vaccine and it's trajectory is pretty much the same. It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it. |
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For me, it is necessary to control Guns because it is intended to use for killing so must use it in proper way... But sadly many people are using for personal purposes like for their enemies even though their guns are without liscense...
Gun control doesn't stop bad people from committing crimes with guns. The only thing that stops the bad people is the good people who have guns, and use them to kill the bad people on the spot, while they are committing the crimes. How do we know? Because that's what good cops - who are simply people - do. Of course, when a cop turns bad, who protects you from him? His fellow cops don't fight for you. Even if they are "goodish," they stand up for the bad cop. Protect yourself. Get your own gun. |
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Any weapon without a license is a potential threat to human life. Every legal barrel you can monitor on the pool liner. If a person has an illegal weapon that he subconsciously hoped that it will not find. This may encourage to commit crimes.
Since you are such a good judge of character, maybe you should take over the licensing. Forget the licensing. Next thing Government will want to license the plate you eat from, and the fork and spoon you bring the food to your mouth with. |
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Trump is worse than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics and I think has a great mind. For this reason, Trump is constantly haunted by scandals. The actions of such an inadequate person like Trump can lead to unpredictable consequences for America and not have to wait when it'll be history. We see it now.
Trump is better than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics. Why would anyone want a shrewd politician. Because he is a good talker? That doesn't help anyone. |
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Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure
And mostly the religion of atheism. They trust blindly in science to keep them alive, but there is no evidence that science can do this. |
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Besides, the Caribbean is a fun place. And it wouldn't be like it is if the meteor hadn't crashed there. |
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I find the arguments to not vaccinate simply stupid and not based on any scientific evidence. Diseases which had disappeared started to reappear because of people not vaccinating their children, risking the lives of others at the same time.
This thread is about the evidence. Essentially, there isn't enough evidence to show that vaccination works where other things fail. The thing that is being proven is that even if vaccination works, there are other, worse things caused by the vaccination than the benefits received from the vaccination. Lets finally do the studies. But the medical doesn't want to. Why? |
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Until the world is ruled by a few super powers we are doomed to be poor. The economy works so all poor countries serve the wealthy. The desire to escape from this poverty leads to the fact that many Africans become slaves in General.
When the world is ruled by a few super powers we are doomed to be poor. Why? Because they sill suck the wealth out of us all. |
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Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?
If the existence of God is not possible to disprove, and you know it, why attempt to believe that He doesn't exist. Why not simply say "I don't know?" Atheists might have a more pragmatic approach to faith. But they don't believe that God doesn't exist like they say that they believe. Rather, if they are honest people, they believe that they don't know if God exists or not... because they can't prove that He doesn't, and there are lots of places and opportunities for God TO exist. Do you know for a fact that the precautions you take to remain healthy are going to work? No, not for sure. But you take them, anyway. Do you know for a fact that God doesn't exist? Perhaps not. But it is totally unwise to disallow Him with something like atheism, when you know that you might be wrong, and might be winding up fighting against a being Who is way more powerful than you are. If you think you know that God doesn't exist, prove it. Simple talk proves nothing. Adamant talk based on nothing is religion. |
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The only possible "respect" religious people can be entitled is to private practice, in short being stupid is a right, but in the moment they try to impose something on society based on their irrational God(s) they don't.
And it is the atheism religion that suggests that there is no God. It doesn't suggest that there might be a God somewhere. It flatly and out-rightly suggests that there is no God. Bold and ignorant people suggest the same. But anyone that has a fraction of realization about how frail people are, realizes that he absolutely can't know that God doesn't exist... even if he can't put his finger on where or how God exists. Actually, all atheists understand this about God, way down deep. All their adamant crying about the stupidity of believing in God, exists only so that they can strengthen their stupidity in themselves. They know that they don't know if God exists or not. And they know that because of this atheism isn't what they believe in. Yet they try to believe in it. Why? Why not rather try to find the truth and believe in it? |
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I am of the opinion that the background checks should be done to ensure that guns are sold to the right people and even mental checks as well, everyone has the right to own a gun but not everyone is entitled to have one.
Who is going to administer the testing? Who developed the tests? Are they fair tests? Are they the same no matter which psychologist developed them? If they are different, who determines which tests are selected. Is he a sane person when making the test selections? Forget it. Arm everyone, and when a wrong is done, present the facts to the jury, and let the people decide. I actually agree with Joe Brook here. And listen why. When criminal gets out of prison you have absolutely no idea, if he is reformed or not. On the same note, when your country is being flooded by immigrants from war torn place, you might just have a terrorist in your neighbourhood. Yes, protecting you family and estate is your God given right. As is checking on people, who had bad track record on using them. Criminal record, immigrant status and past of drug abuse should put an individual on black list for atleast a couple of years before he can prove him/herself to society as trustworthy. These "newcomers" coming from repressive environment should put a little work for the freedom too, dont you think so? Which crook is the smartest? The one that isn't smart enough to stay out of jail? Or the one who gets into Government and takes your rights and property away? Trust the Government appointed authorities if you want, but don't force me to be in a position of weakness like you are taking for yourself. |
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Did you realize on your own that animals don't invent Gods or you needed help from your cult? I can enumerate you a shitload of things plants and animals do not do, you would be surprised to find out there are differences between us and other living beings. But bravo, your discovery that animals and plants do not praise gods will change the world as we know it, you little genius. On a more serious manner, I know you cultists see yourselves as gods walking the earth, I already said that about you. That's what makes you a fanatic in the first place. On the other hand, no, I do not see myself as a God among nature because I am aware of the reality of things. We reach a conclusion however: you said nature is beyond what mankind can think, therefore God exists. That is false, what is beyond what mankind can think is called supernatural, you should know that. And no, supernatural does not necessarily mean God. It means supernatural and you need evidence to prove that a certain supernatural is a God. That is the flaw in your mindset. That's the 'apology'. Not being able to understand something and immediately calling it God, because you've been taught since birth about God, you grew up in a culture that praises God, your brain is in big difficulty when put to work on rational, scientific things, without implying that a God exists. You are a victim of religion. Do you know what the real issue for most of the islamic immigrants is? They suddenly realized the possibility of the non existence of an after life. That kind of makes them want to live this life, not end it and risk it. The same that gave birth to Gods will also be able to 'kill' them as a 'rule' and keep them as a myth. And I am talking about mankind. It won't happen too soon because, as we can see, religious people know how to 'go with the wave' in order to keep the myth alive. That is why instead of simple, classical christians you now have deists, theists, creationists, and many other ramifications. They don't have an identity anymore because they need to adapt the lie to the modern world and its discoveries. If it was true in the first place, it would have stayed the same.
I am a little curious. Is there any scientific proof for or against the existence of God in all your religious blabber up there? No? I didn't think so. If you are new to the forum, you can see the scientific proof that God exists here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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What? You never heard of the ignore button? Don't like what I say? Use the ignore button. I don't think you are understanding the idea of science. Nothing that I have said is about religion. At the same time, most of what you have said is about religion. It's a reasonably free forum. This is why you can get off-topic in this thread so much. If you don't think science proves the existence of God, use some scientific rebuttal to show it. Oh that's right. You do, don't you. It's called "political science" which says that all you have to do is out-talk someone else to be right, and even lie when you can get away with it. Everything you have said involves your religion and is about your religion, the one that believes in a God. That's what a religion is, dear brain dead christian. Get used to it, you will never get away by labeling your shit science, it is not, you are not a physicist and you have almost 0 understanding of the few laws that you have heard of and abuse so much. What you are, however, is a religious fanatic, one that would do and say anything only to justify his lack of knowledge by claiming a God. You made it mandatory, your God, you actually believe that we should know your God exists, or else we are retards, liars and other things. Next step is to say we are infidels and off with our heads. The ignore button shall not have its way here, because you are something that I will hunt down and bitchslap every time I have an opportunity to do so. I did my scientific rebuttal for your bullshit, but talking science to you is like buying condoms for fleas. It's absurd and a waste of time. That is why my message to you is fuck off you child molesting religious fanatic. Everything I have said involves science and standard science laws. To see this, all you have to do is Google the things I say. You keep on bringing religion into it. Don't you have a church to say your religious things in? Well, then you are right. Everything you said is almost scientific laws really badly interpreted and God does not exist. If however you brain dead monkey change your mind and claim God exists because of your links, then it is religion. Why? Because you believe in a fucking God, you poor mentally challenged donkey. P.S. You are not a scientist, get over it. Hey, man. Thanks for helping to keep this thread alive, so that people can understand that there is proof for the existence of God: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. There is no evidence of God and you are not a scientist. Anybody, scientist or not, can look at nature and realize that it had to have been made by God. But on a more personal note, thanks for setting yourself up as God by adamantly proclaiming God doesn't exist. It just shows that He exists more when you do that. No, I did not proclaim with certainty God doesn't exist, I claimed there is absolutely no evidence of it so the probability of a myth is as low as the Santa Claus story is. The only one here behaving as an all knowing God is you. Your argument that anybody can realize it had to have been made by God is false since a lot of people, scientist or not, can look at nature and realize there is no trace of God anywhere to be seen. You are not a scientist and your understanding of things is altered by your religion, that came up with a God in the first place. You also seem to be a fanatic. Can you prove me wrong? Do monkeys proclaim God does or doesn't exist? How about dolphins or whales? What about chimpanzees? Certainly most plants don't say anything at all! It takes a human using his part God-ness to state something stupid like God doesn't exist. It also takes a human inventing a God as an explanation of anything he does not understand. However, something that most certainly will never seen in nature is a statement as senseless and stupid as you just did. The question you should be asking yourself is this: if there is a God, was it part of its plan to make someone so stupid as to claim that God exists just because animals do not deny it? Except that it takes a human using his God-part to invent gods. Animals and plants don't do this. Only people who recognize the fact that God is an essential part of existence do this. You and your silly distracting statements. If you can't realize that you are a god among nature, what are you even doing in this forum? And since you were "dropped" into nature at birth, and since nature is way beyond what mankind can think, God exists. Or do you really think that all nature is nothing? |
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How an Undercover FBI Agent Ended Up in Jail After Pretending to Be a Journalist Word traveled fast in tiny Glendale, Colorado, when an undercover FBI agent identifying himself as Charles Johnson began knocking on doors and asking questions.
For nearly a year, as a part of the FBI's investigation of the armed standoff between a Nevada rancher named Cliven Bundy and Bureau of Land Management agents in 2014, Johnson pretended to be a documentary filmmaker. At one point, he assured Bundy's suspicious son Ryan, "I want a truthful documentary." The more than 100 hours of video and audio recordings that Johnson and his team produced while posing as journalists are being used as evidence in criminal trials against Bundy and his supporters. While Johnson was finished with the fake documentary production by the time he arrived in Colorado, he wasn't done with pretending to be a member of the news media.
It was February 2016, just a couple of weeks after members of the Bundy family and their supporters were arrested following the standoff at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. At the time, Glendale's civic life was dominated by debate over a $175 million development proposal, called Glendale 180, to create a new nightlife and entertainment district. Glendale Mayor Mike Dunafon has led the campaign to remake the city. An eccentric politician who lives in a home that looks like a castle — it has its own website — Dunafon ran as an independent for Colorado governor in 2014. Wyclef Jean even produced his official campaign song.
But Dunafon's plans for remaking Glendale have been stalled by a local businessman named Mohammad Ali Kheirkhahi, who runs a Persian rug store on land he owns that would be a centerpiece of Glendale 180. Glendale wanted to purchase the land for the entertainment district, but Kheirkhahi had proposed developing a high-rise condominium tower on the site. The city's tiny newspaper, the Glendale Cherry Creek Chronicle, opposed the condo development proposal, referring to it as the "Tehranian Death Star." The newspaper quoted several citizens in its pages expressing opposition to Kheirkhani's residential development. For reasons that remain obscure, Johnson started door-stopping people who were quoted in the newspaper, according to police records obtained by The Intercept.
On February 20, 2016, Johnson showed up at the apartment of Sherry Frame, the Glendale city clerk. Johnson didn't identify himself as an FBI agent. Instead, he said he was an "investigative consultant" who was hired to look into an ethics complaint. As part of that inquiry, Johnson said he needed to talk to Frame. Read more and click the links at https://theintercept.com/2017/05/16/how-an-undercover-fbi-agent-ended-up-in-jail-after-pretending-to-be-a-journalist/.
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How would you be protected from pirates and such? Most countries can't protect their citizen on land and can't effectvally watch all waterflow.
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Pirates? We don't develop near nations where pirating is common. Also...guns. If any project starts out with "we have to be able to defend ourselves against nations" then it's dead from the start. Imagine if everyone considering buying a boat thought "I can't buy this boat, Korea may attack me". You are not talking about buying a boat, you are talking about starting a country. Country that cant defend itself from something as meager as third world pirates is no country. We dont live 1960s anymore. But there were way more pirates in the 1860s. |
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Obama Reveals True Thoughts On Trump:
"He's Nothing But A Bullshitter" People Magazine decided to dedicate their cover story this month to their beloved "cool, even-keeled, no-drama Barack Obama." And even though it will come as surprise to precisely no one, the story apparently includes the "bombshell" revelation that....wait for it...Obama can't stand Trump...shocking, we know.
According to two anonymous sources friendly with the Obamas, People Magazine revealed that Obama frequently describes Trump as "nothing but a bullshitter"...
"He's nothing but a bullsh–ter," Obama told two friends early last November, describing an election night phone call with Trump, in which the businessman suddenly professed his "respect" and "admiration" for Obama—after years of hectoring.
Speaking to PEOPLE for its new cover story on Obama and his wife Michelle adjusting to life outside the White House, the two friends quoted Obama's blunt assessment of President-elect Trump. And how has Obama's opinion changed since Trump been in office? "Well," said one of the sources, "it hasn't gotten any better."
...all of which is odd because they seemed so friendly and comfortable in this pic of their first Oval Office meeting.
Meanwhile, after hinting that he would lead the opposition movement against Trump, Obama's friends now say he plans to be "very respectful of the appropriate role of a former president." Which we assume can be loosely translated to mean that he's not interested in playing petty political games when he can focus on making millions of dollars selling 1-hour speeches to Wall Street for $400k a pop. Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-17/obama-reveals-true-thoughts-trump-hes-nothing-bullshitter.
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