Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

Because you have no proof that He doesn't exist.

Show me definitive proof that he does exist!
You revert to the same arguments..... please try something different.
Before you start with the "god did this" crap..... I want definitive proof. Not something which is Faith based.

Newton's 3rd Law upholds cause and effect.

Cause and effect exist in all things. There is no evidence of pure random (opposite of cause and effect) anywhere. We almost cannot conceive of pure random.

Cause and effect caused the great complexity of the universe. But entropy says that complexity is breaking down.

Whatever caused the great complexity of the universe (including the complexity of man's intelligence), in the face of all-pervading entropy, is intellectually very great... intellectually because of the intelligence that we see in ourselves, and how the universe works in an intelligent fashion.

Such intelligence fits our definition of the word "God."



In addition, nature works like a great big, highly complex machine. In fact, all OUR machines come from nature, and use the machine of nature to operate. Machines are made by makers. Not one of mankind's machines just popped into existence without being made.

Since the machine of nature is a vastly greater machine than any machine that people could even dream of making, the Maker of the machine of nature fits our definition of the word "God."

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In addition, nature works like a great big, highly complex machine. In fact, all OUR machines come from nature, and use the machine of nature to operate.

So Nature is the ruling entity.

You have stretched the boundary of reality to fit your ideal of "Nature = God". I disagree! Nature is exactly what it is ....... Nature"
Why complicate the reality of what we live and breathe with adding the element of a fictional being?

[BADecker]

In addition, nature works like a great big, highly complex machine. In fact, all OUR machines come from nature, and use the machine of nature to operate.

So Nature is the ruling entity.

You have stretched the boundary of reality to fit your ideal of "Nature = God". I disagree! Nature is exactly what it is ....... Nature"
Why complicate the reality of what we live and breathe with adding the element of a fictional being?

You might be right if there was a machine of mankind that didn't depend on the machinery of nature to exist and operate.



EDIT: So, you believe nature is God? Machinery doesn't make itself. It is made by a machine maker. The machinery of nature is made by God.

[MiSKLaCH]

In addition, nature works like a great big, highly complex machine. In fact, all OUR machines come from nature, and use the machine of nature to operate.

So Nature is the ruling entity.

You have stretched the boundary of reality to fit your ideal of "Nature = God". I disagree! Nature is exactly what it is ....... Nature"
Why complicate the reality of what we live and breathe with adding the element of a fictional being?

[BADecker]

In addition, nature works like a great big, highly complex machine. In fact, all OUR machines come from nature, and use the machine of nature to operate.

So Nature is the ruling entity.

You have stretched the boundary of reality to fit your ideal of "Nature = God". I disagree! Nature is exactly what it is ....... Nature"
Why complicate the reality of what we live and breathe with adding the element of a fictional being?

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So, you think I said that nature is God? Machinery doesn't make itself. It is made by a machine maker. The machinery of nature is made by God. It is not God. It is nature.

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You might be right if there was a machine of mankind that didn't depend on the machinery of nature to exist and operate.



EDIT: So, you believe nature is God? Machinery doesn't make itself. It is made by a machine maker. The machinery of nature is made by God.

I never said Nature is God, that is your stretch of the imagination. I said Nature is Nature.

Nature evolves through time to be whatever it becomes.

If you believe that machinery of nature is god, please show me the machine!

[BADecker]

You might be right if there was a machine of mankind that didn't depend on the machinery of nature to exist and operate.



EDIT: So, you believe nature is God? Machinery doesn't make itself. It is made by a machine maker. The machinery of nature is made by God.

I never said Nature is God, that is your stretch of the imagination. I said Nature is Nature.

Nature evolves through time to be whatever it becomes.

If you believe that machinery of nature is god, please show me the machine!

The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

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The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

That is my point..... Nature is exactly that.... Nature. Why confuse the issue and add a fictional being to something which needs no improvement. Is it because of a delusional complex..... is it because you are yet to awake from a horrible nightmare where you believe in something which isn't real? Or maybe..... you are still the 6 year old child who still believes in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny!

[Moloch]

[vantyzz]

The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

That is my point..... Nature is exactly that.... Nature. Why confuse the issue and add a fictional being to something which needs no improvement. Is it because of a delusional complex..... is it because you are yet to awake from a horrible nightmare where you believe in something which isn't real? Or maybe..... you are still the 6 year old child who still believes in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny!

that's it, it's a force of nature and evolution. And the people came up with God to justify their fears and complexes

[MiSKLaCH]

The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

That is my point..... Nature is exactly that.... Nature. Why confuse the issue and add a fictional being to something which needs no improvement. Is it because of a delusional complex..... is it because you are yet to awake from a horrible nightmare where you believe in something which isn't real? Or maybe..... you are still the 6 year old child who still believes in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny!

that's it, it's a force of nature and evolution. And the people came up with God to justify their fears and complexes

No way you can convince BADecker and his clones that their god is simply a fictional character, they will blatter about proofs that he exists (without providing one), because it's written in the bible or, even more hilarious, because someone must have created the universe and everything in it.

They took off their brains and have substitute them with a book... their "bible science" prove that god exists, period!

[dippididodaday]

The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

That is my point..... Nature is exactly that.... Nature. Why confuse the issue and add a fictional being to something which needs no improvement. Is it because of a delusional complex..... is it because you are yet to awake from a horrible nightmare where you believe in something which isn't real? Or maybe..... you are still the 6 year old child who still believes in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny!

that's it, it's a force of nature and evolution. And the people came up with God to justify their fears and complexes

No way you can convince BADecker and his clones that their god is simply a fictional character, they will blatter about proofs that he exists (without providing one), because it's written in the bible or, even more hilarious, because someone must have created the universe and everything in it.

They took off their brains and have substitute them with a book... their "bible science" prove that god exists, period!

To simplify complexity I have an idea:  nature is nature and we humans are nature ourselves, but, and this is an essential but, we are nature asking about all-that-is, especially about all-that-we-are-and-becoming. This, in itself, is enough evidence, that nature is "God" and so are we, being the ultimate natural expression that we know of.

[BADecker]

The whole of nature is a complex machine, filled with other machines. For example. The gears that mankind makes are uses of levers and leverage found first in nature. Mankind simply copied nature and expanded it a bit, to match his own designs. However, it was complex cause and effect that pushed mankind into designing his machines.

God rules.

That is my point..... Nature is exactly that.... Nature. Why confuse the issue and add a fictional being to something which needs no improvement. Is it because of a delusional complex..... is it because you are yet to awake from a horrible nightmare where you believe in something which isn't real? Or maybe..... you are still the 6 year old child who still believes in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny!

We have no evidence anywhere in nature or the universe of anything causing itself to come into being when it wasn't there in the first place.

All-pervading entity shows us that the universe had a beginning. How doe it do this? If there was no beginning, all nature would have been dispersed and diffused  into an equilibrious mass of something that cannot be described... by entropy.

So, you can see that you are entirely wrong about Nature being God. Nature needed God to create it.

Thank you, however, for finally recognizing that God exists.

[kongosplit]

What?

Atheists don't hate religion! Religions hate atheists!

This is my point of view regarding this problem! Why? Quite simple. Most atheists are able to understand problems of religions and how a religion is working, perhaps this is not the best thing I need to say, even so, religions are changing people.

Personally I think except muslins, that every religion appeared just to explain the unknown.

[BADecker]

Because you have no proof that He doesn't exist.

Show me definitive proof that he does exist!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40

You revert to the same arguments..... please try something different.

Isn't the Internet open to you? Do your own research.

Before you start with the "god did this" crap..... I want definitive proof. Not something which is Faith based.

Since you don't seem to be able to accept the proof, the only way anyone will really be able to prove it to you is when God does it, Himself, in the Judgment.

[dippididodaday]

Who needs proof that I am here? or not? haha... Anyone? Am I [here] ex nihilo? Lol. Asking such silly questions about "God" is really funny. "God" is and that is enough. Demanding proof or disproof when it comes to "God" will fail, all of the time.

[Tyrantt]

What?

Atheists don't hate religion! Religions hate atheists!

This is my point of view regarding this problem! Why? Quite simple. Most atheists are able to understand problems of religions and how a religion is working, perhaps this is not the best thing I need to say, even so, religions are changing people.

Personally I think except muslins, that every religion appeared just to explain the unknown.

I hate the BS they preach.  All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas.

The worse part is that they poison the minds of young people.  That should illegal.
Child abuse if you ask me.

"All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas" that's the thing of every religion that came to be after the pagan religions.

[BADecker]

What?

Atheists don't hate religion! Religions hate atheists!

This is my point of view regarding this problem! Why? Quite simple. Most atheists are able to understand problems of religions and how a religion is working, perhaps this is not the best thing I need to say, even so, religions are changing people.

Personally I think except muslins, that every religion appeared just to explain the unknown.

I hate the BS they preach.  All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas.

The worse part is that they poison the minds of young people.  That should illegal.
Child abuse if you ask me.

"All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas" that's the thing of every religion that came to be after the pagan religions.

Now you are talking about all those scientific theories that are being pushed onto the people as truth, so that they believe in things that are not known, so that the church of scientists and universities make money, so that they have enough credibility in the eyes of stupid government people, so that the government people give them government grants.

On of the smartest groups is the flat earth people. They know that if they can get people to just believe in flat earth, they will be able to get government funding for their "science." It could take decades, but they just might have success.

[BADecker]

What?

Atheists don't hate religion! Religions hate atheists!

This is my point of view regarding this problem! Why? Quite simple. Most atheists are able to understand problems of religions and how a religion is working, perhaps this is not the best thing I need to say, even so, religions are changing people.

Personally I think except muslins, that every religion appeared just to explain the unknown.

I hate the BS they preach.  All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas.

The worse part is that they poison the minds of young people.  That should illegal.
Child abuse if you ask me.

"All made up stories, written and re-written to fit their twisted agendas" that's the thing of every religion that came to be after the pagan religions.

Now you are talking about all those scientific theories that are being pushed onto the people as truth, so that they believe in things that are not known, so that the church of scientists and universities make money, so that they have enough credibility in the eyes of stupid government people, so that the government people give them government grants.

On of the smartest groups is the flat earth people. They know that if they can get people to just believe in flat earth, they will be able to get government funding for their "science." It could take decades, but they just might have success.

You don't even know what your Christian doctrine actually teaches.  If you did you would leave that cult.

Saying that you have lost your mind is an understatement.

Just because you don't know what my Christian doctrine teaches, doesn't meant that I don't.

The brain is very tricky. As you lose the little bit of God you were born with, your brain reroutes your feelings and understanding so that you don't even realize what is happening.

Get into the Bible, and get the Bible into you, so that your understanding is strengthened.

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Thank you, however, for finally recognizing that God exists.

Nope.... never said that!

Typical response for you BADecker is to revert back to your Faith. You are unable to prove anything and try to use your faith as the catalyst for all of your belief's which you try to represent as truth.

If it makes it easier for you I will spell it out for you so you understand better. "G O D  D O E S  N O T  E X I S T"

Why do you feel the need to justify your god as being real? Is it because you feel lonely in your little world of fantasy, smoke and mirrors?