Some things can be explained better with a picture. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1KSC9W6.gif&t=663&c=DtbcsiRCQoN-6w) Well Done! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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How cute, you and Paula can't take me serious and don't trust me. The only 2 left here and always take offence to any questions from anyone. You automatically go on the defensive and start fighting with anyone with concerns. Ive been around since the beginning and I will ask whatever questions I have. You can handle it like children if you want. It just shows others what to expect from this team. I will be quiet for a while because its obvious you have no real answers but if I have another concern I'll voice it.
Stop your lies and leave please. I'd rather you sell out and be gone. But he does have some good points , you obviously want him gone , then buy his coins at 15-20K sat and don`t tell him to cash out at a loss , make him a good offer he can`t refuse ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) then he will be happy and you will since he wont be here anymore . I never said all his questions were wrong. He's a liar and decidedly corrupt and disruptive for his own purposes. Anyone in their right mind would not be asking simple questions the way he is IF they have a sincere desire for the coins betterment. Especially IF they had 70k... Like he says. He simply does not care and IF he truly does not care then he can sell. Why would anyone "Reward" such behavior?! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) most of the people don`t care about any of their coins they hold , the main goal is to make profit nothing else matters he is probably frustrated about the price and the value of his investment , I remember people were talking about the price of 100K when the beta wallet comes out , maybe he put a lot of money in it because of that and now it seems he wont make any profit soon or he can`t even break even. I would not call it reward more likely getting rid of him , otherwise expect his posts for the next few months . You can decide to believe his BS and I do not prescribe to your logic in this situation. a lot of people when they lose money on some coin they start to self destruct , they wont cash out and leave they just want it to crash even more so they could drag other people into it ,the best way to deal with this kind of people is to ignore them and their comments and posts , and eventually they will leave by themselves . There's now enough BS on record they will never be able to escape.
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How cute, you and Paula can't take me serious and don't trust me. The only 2 left here and always take offence to any questions from anyone. You automatically go on the defensive and start fighting with anyone with concerns. Ive been around since the beginning and I will ask whatever questions I have. You can handle it like children if you want. It just shows others what to expect from this team. I will be quiet for a while because its obvious you have no real answers but if I have another concern I'll voice it.
Stop your lies and leave please. I'd rather you sell out and be gone. But he does have some good points , you obviously want him gone , then buy his coins at 15-20K sat and don`t tell him to cash out at a loss , make him a good offer he can`t refuse ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) then he will be happy and you will since he wont be here anymore . I never said all his questions were wrong. He's a liar and decidedly corrupt and disruptive for his own purposes. Anyone in their right mind would not be asking simple questions the way he is IF they have a sincere desire for the coins betterment. Especially IF they had 70k... Like he says. He simply does not care and IF he truly does not care then he can sell. Why would anyone "Reward" such behavior?! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) most of the people don`t care about any of their coins they hold , the main goal is to make profit nothing else matters he is probably frustrated about the price and the value of his investment , I remember people were talking about the price of 100K when the beta wallet comes out , maybe he put a lot of money in it because of that and now it seems he wont make any profit soon or he can`t even break even. I would not call it reward more likely getting rid of him , otherwise expect his posts for the next few months . You can decide to believe his BS and I do not prescribe to your logic in this situation. Nor do they deserve any sympathy.
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How cute, you and Paula can't take me serious and don't trust me. The only 2 left here and always take offence to any questions from anyone. You automatically go on the defensive and start fighting with anyone with concerns. Ive been around since the beginning and I will ask whatever questions I have. You can handle it like children if you want. It just shows others what to expect from this team. I will be quiet for a while because its obvious you have no real answers but if I have another concern I'll voice it.
Stop your lies and leave please. I'd rather you sell out and be gone. But he does have some good points , you obviously want him gone , then buy his coins at 15-20K sat and don`t tell him to cash out at a loss , make him a good offer he can`t refuse ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) then he will be happy and you will since he wont be here anymore . I never said all his questions were wrong. He's a liar and decidedly corrupt and disruptive for his own purposes. Anyone in their right mind would not be asking simple questions the way he is IF they have a sincere desire for the coins betterment. Especially IF they had 70k... Like he says. He simply does not care and IF he truly does not care then he can sell. Why would anyone "Reward" such behavior?! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Could anyone put some spreadsheets together for the Escrow accounts and a few others.
Please PM
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How cute, you and Paula can't take me serious and don't trust me. The only 2 left here and always take offence to any questions from anyone. You automatically go on the defensive and start fighting with anyone with concerns. Ive been around since the beginning and I will ask whatever questions I have. You can handle it like children if you want. It just shows others what to expect from this team. I will be quiet for a while because its obvious you have no real answers but if I have another concern I'll voice it.
Stop your lies and leave please. I'd rather you sell out and be gone.
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I picked up some SDC on the dips ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but don't have the time to follow the thread as I would like to. Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned. Much Thanks! Sincerely, MM next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now) right now, zk-snarks release is on public test Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+ fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!) As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state. Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks,... in every sense of saying it Sarcastically! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I appreciate the primer into the tech and now will be looking for the "Dummies" version. Wish I had some time but this is going to be a tough 2-weeks. MM Basically, when polished, things will be closer to instant, more compact, more secure and with less limitations then anything, currently on the market, in development, in this nich. It is also not restricted by its anonymity, there are ways to work with regulation if someone needs it. When I have some time after I do some research I will send you a PM to discuss if OK...
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I picked up some SDC on the dips ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but don't have the time to follow the thread as I would like to. Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned. Much Thanks! Sincerely, MM next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now) right now, zk-snarks release is on public test Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+ fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!) As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state. Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks,... in every sense of saying it Sarcastically! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I appreciate the primer into the tech and now will be looking for the "Dummies" version. Wish I had some time but this is going to be a tough 2-weeks. MM
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Who's the manipulator with the huge sell wall?!?
bot? trex is all about having trade bot doing the job ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) IMO it's well known Bittrex has bots on every coin and the objective is to get enough coins first of all to control the "Momentum". Once that's achieved they then have the ability to guide the price and price range at near will. At times however you can force the price out of their bots control. Sometimes with violent payback but such is life. Kinda sucks that CC's are subject to the very manipulation and control that Satoshi Nakamoto was driven to eliminate with the invention of Bitcoin. If you ask me the banksters are manipulating Bitcoin and the alts to secure their future since it is a real threat. Hi, I would like to make it clear that none of the Bittrex team members utilize bots on the exchange. We do however, have an API that has 100s of users hitting it with their own bots. Any new market we add can be hit by these bots almost instantly depending on how the bots are coded. Thanks, Ryan @ Bittrex Ryan, Much Respect. This is good for the Bittrex Community to know. Of course we hope the employees buddies are not the main users of them. You do realize for Bittrex's benefit and even for it's existence it may be prudent/the right thing to do to set some limitations on IP addresses using these Bots or it may actually soon reach the point whereby the existence of Bitcoin and ALL the Alt Coins themselves become dependent on Bots being completely done away with. Of course THEY can always put people at the accounts but that's going to cost them and slow them down as any manipulators can be algorithmically Identified and penalized. I'm not the only one who sees all is not well... Sincerely, MM
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The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through. Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market. However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have? I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects...Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Thanks Skip, IF anyone has some coins for sale PM me. we dont sell through PM, u can buy from bittrex ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Of Course! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through. Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market. However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have? I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects... Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Thanks Skip, IF anyone has some coins for sale PM me.
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I picked up some SDC on the dips ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but don't have the time to follow the thread as I would like to. Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned. Much Thanks! Sincerely, MM
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@mymoneyman sooo you want your money back man?? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) just kidding, now seriously.... who da fuck cares about money??? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I wouldn't mind to at least keep the Kore I have acquired. It should transfer over 1:1. If not then Kore 2.0 is already dead. Hey boy, stop your mind. Don't think about something that it's not your business. Don't worry and trust to your Dev. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) +1 -1000 You're garbage You're losing the entire community. You say one thing and do another every day. So is it not 1 Kore = 1 Kore anymore? You continue to talk about something that you have not understand. And continue to FUD in a coin's thread that you have already sell and not have interesting anymore. You mix words of two different context. I hope a light in your dark soon. I have north of 70,000 Kore at the moment. I have no reason to have an opinion if I had nothing here. Asking a question is not fud. Not receiving an answer to said question is FUD. I doubt I'm the only one with that concern. snipped... Do you actually honestly truly think anyone takes you seriously anymore?! I could see New Ones lurking that might fall for your fud AND that's the ONLY reason I and most-likely others even post a reply to your BS since you take things out of context and focus on half of the facts given twisting them to your endeavors. (this in no way means every single question was fud) Seriously... You've lost every bit of trust, respect and consideration for what you coyly claim as legitimate concern and reasons to post. You've left here a number of times. Don't come back! ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) As for your 70k Coins, PLEASE SELL THEM ALL AT ONCE. Think about it! You can leave here and actually bring smiles on the faces of many buyers! Go ahead and DO IT! Crash Kore down to 1k Satoshi. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most Sincerely, MM In ALL Earnest, This One's For YOU: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSla4m.gif&t=663&c=woq9zAU-Cxks-Q)
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I have several questions want answers: 1.Vpncoin is the first video-call cryptocoin? 2.Vpncoin is the first voice-call cryptocoin? 3.Vpncoin is the first chat cryptocoin use Advanced Encryption Standard(AES)? If the answer is yes,why are so many people anxious to sell it?
First no one would hold caz he know anothers would dump ...(Free money) even if i think this coin is amazing invest i would still sell .. caz i know i will get more cheaper .... watch the history of every coin do a big give away .. it get dumped seriously you cant give your fuckin coins away, 600million coins should be destroyed asap I know what you mean,distributed free to bring a lot of problems,but we also get a lot of supporters,destroy 600million coins?I think this is not a good idea,about the price, I have nothing to say.In order to show our attitude, we put 600 million on the public address,in the absence of a comprehensive plan,it is not ours, it belongs to the community.it will always stay there,so we hope to get more suggestions. Time to sleep,see you tomorrow. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Sounds like a plan OR burn just a portion of them and put the rest into Escrow or public address? Edit: On second thought there maybe some tech. etc that could be considered to incorporate into the Coin.
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Now that was an exciting Saturday! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr565%2Fkatun13%2Fmaxwellsmart446_zpsa7878253.jpg&t=663&c=Q6pBLtCxExkf2w)
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Eurbids, Please I beg you. 1) Code the new wallet 2) Contact the KoreTeam. Plan a 15 days marketing campaing. Use first week for testing the new wallet. 3) Promote new release. Twitter, bitcoin talk (create new threads), giveaways 4) Make the Release 5) Welcome new people willing to help. Promise me you gonna make it like that. Please I beg you. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) We all just did this in it's entirety. Problem was a missed release date is all. Sorry but this is serious. If you are promoting during a week a date and an the exact time of the release, you can not arrived and tell the people. "wait an hour I need to check something". Then "wait another hour". Then "maybe for tomorrow". It's not "ME" that missed a date and I spent many a sleepless night to get that "Done Right". I do understand your concern that it is a "big thing" BUT it's very common to miss "dates" in coding. Yep, a Missed opportunity but good thing Eurbids has a wide and fluid view when it comes to Kore's tech.EDIT: And it makes sense for Eurbids to have the working release then wait on it till the news feeds get out there. In other words not do a major news release till the code is working and ideally wait to release it till the news is published.I DO AGREE the Kore Team needs 15-Days since to get an article posted on Yahoo and Google finance takes about that long. That's what I mean with timing. You need to publish the article (btw, that was awesome) the same day so when the new people arrive (the first thing they gonna see is the price, then the thread.) they see that everything is fine. Price growing, community growing, good technology, nice investment, nice team to get involved with. I can only do so much to keep the Team Together and the thread active making many suggestions and asking for help that mostly go ignored. People are too used to P&D'ing and see posting on a thread without news to pump as pumping...and Very Ironic it is! There are many many who lurk and do not post on the thread. It is what it is to an extent being there is no BS here by the team nor the dev and no P&D crowd neither which does make for a dull thread at times but there are those who look beyond that.
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For the third time this is my final post in this thread. I'm sure you guy are right ( ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) and that I do need to clear my head. On the other hand, In Vino Veritas. The point here is that I'm out since I misunderstood. Eurbids, who runs the VOIP server(s), is in a position to know all the users IP addresses and the content of their convos. Do I trust him? Should I have to? The system is in no way TNO (trust no one) and does not even roadmap towards that. I lost here ($). On the plus side I'll never have to see your marketing spam any more. Bye/ Take care~ The roadmap is not set on the tech. for decentralization and TNO since the landscape is constantly changing as to what ANON and TNO require. There are options thought of today I need to have meetings about to see whether it can be done. ONE THING I do know is that the KOREPhone will be TNO and 100% ANON as I'm able to have long conversations with the Dev coding it and it helps we speak the same language and is patient with me whilst I pick their brain to understand the tech. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Eurbids, Please I beg you. 1) Code the new wallet 2) Contact the KoreTeam. Plan a 15 days marketing campaing. Use first week for testing the new wallet. 3) Promote new release. Twitter, bitcoin talk (create new threads), giveaways 4) Make the Release 5) Welcome new people willing to help. Promise me you gonna make it like that. Please I beg you. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) We all just did this in it's entirety. Problem was a missed release date is all. I DO AGREE the Kore Team needs 15-Days since to get an article posted on Yahoo and Google finance takes about that long.
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