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241  Economy / Speculation / Re: 200 on: October 22, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
While it is true that it is difficult to remove fiat from some exchanges, this does not mean that people are not willing to pony up fiat for bitcoin purchases. A bitcoin purchased from MT Gox for $200 still cost someone $200.

Anyway, my comment is: $200 is the new $100.
242  Economy / Speculation / Re: US media frenzy hasn't even begun yet on: October 22, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
If we are still early adopters (which I think is proven that we still are) it is a great time to buy Bitcoin, even at $200!
if that's the advice you give, you ought to be careful to really emphasize the short-term risk of buying at this price. it's easy to become a bagholder, just waiting to break even, following a rally like this. i am not advising anyone to buy until we level out, wherever that is.

If you wait until it is safe you will make nothing. Risk = reward.
243  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will Bitcoin hit $300? on: October 22, 2013, 05:06:14 PM
Last week i told my wife I was 80% certain bitcoins would first touch $200 again by New Years. Seems a ridiculous thing to say now. Amazing how your expectations and perceptions can change in a single week. The only thing I know for sure is that I know nothing for sure.
244  Economy / Speculation / Re: US media frenzy hasn't even begun yet on: October 22, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
When I hear the talking heads talk about bitcoin, all I hear is this from Newsweek 1995:

The Internet? Bah!
Hype alert: Why cyberspace isn’t, and will never be, nirvana

After two decades online, I’m perplexed. It’s not that I haven’t had a gas of a good time on the Internet. I’ve met great people and even caught a hacker or two. But today, I’m uneasy about this most trendy and oversold community. Visionaries see a future of telecommuting workers, interactive libraries and multimedia classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual communities. Commerce and business will shift from offices and malls to networks and modems. And the freedom of digital networks will make government more democratic.Baloney.

Do our computer pundits lack all common sense? The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works.

Consider today’s online world. The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats. When most everyone shouts, few listen. How about electronic publishing? Try reading a book on disc. At best, it’s an unpleasant chore: the myopic glow of a clunky computer replaces the friendly pages of a book. And you can’t tote that laptop to the beach. Yet Nicholas Negroponte, director of the MIT Media Lab, predicts that we’ll soon buy books and newspapers straight over the Intenet. Uh, sure.

What the Internet hucksters won’t tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don’t know what to ignore and what’s worth reading. Logged onto the World Wide Web, I hunt for the date of the Battle of Trafalgar. Hundreds of files show up, and it takes 15 minutes to unravel them–one’s a biography written by an eighth grader, the second is a computer game that doesn’t work and the third is an image of a London monument. None answers my question, and my search is periodically interrupted by messages like, “Too many connectios, try again later.”

Won’t the Internet be useful in governing? Internet addicts clamor for government reports. But when Andy Spano ran for county executive in Westchester County, N.Y., he put every press release and position paper onto a bulletin board. In that affluent county, with plenty of computer companies, how many voters logged in? Fewer than 30. Not a good omen.

Point and click:Then there are those pushing computers into schools. We’re told that multimedia will make schoolwork easy and fun. Students will happily learn from animated characters while taught by expertly tailored software.Who needs teachers when you’ve got computer-aided education? Bah. These expensive toys are difficult to use in classrooms and require extensive teacher training. Sure, kids love videogames–but think of your own experience: can you recall even one educational filmstrip of decades past? I’ll bet you remember the two or three great teachers who made a difference in your life.

Then there’s cyberbusiness. We’re promised instant catalog shopping–just point and click for great deals. We’ll order airline tickets over the network, make restaurant reservations and negotiate sales contracts. Stores will become obselete. So how come my local mall does more business in an afternoon than the entire Internet handles in a month? Even if there were a trustworthy way to send money over the Internet–which there isn’t–the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

What’s missing from this electronic wonderland? Human contact. Discount the fawning techno-burble about virtual communities. Computers and networks isolate us from one another. A network chat line is a limp substitute for meeting friends over coffee. No interactive multimedia display comes close to the excitement of a live concert. And who’d prefer cybersex to the real thing? While the Internet beckons brightly, seductively flashing an icon of knowledge-as-power, this nonplace lures us to surrender our time on earth. A poor substitute it is, this virtual reality where frustration is legion and where–in the holy names of Education and Progress–important aspects of human interactions are relentlessly devalued.
245  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My BFL unboxing and setup experience - Single SC on: October 22, 2013, 04:05:14 PM
I had some setup issues with CGminer, so tried BFGminer and that went smooth as silk. Used Stratum with a diff of 32 to keep them well loaded. The Little Single 30gh/s have been busting out 32.5Gh/s each as reported by BTC-guild for well over 2 months now.

Simply impressive. Rock solid. I may buy a few more on ebay since they occasionally go cheap.
246  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: October 21, 2013, 03:26:29 PM

Sadly, we are at a state where AM1 on Havelock currently has by far the highest 24-hour volume (in btc) of any other asset traded on *any* bitcoin-assets exchange today, including OTC, MPEx, Havelock and Bitfunder. It's also about 10 times higher 24-hour volume than any other market that is trading ASICMINER shares.
HL has the highest volume compared to an exchange that doesn't carry AM (MPEx), to an exchange that doesn't let US investors buy (BF), or an exchange that's little better than a scam (796).

So, that's not saying much.  You're talking about ~300 shares on a 24 day volume, there's no liquidity there. You can drop the price 15% on HL by selling a dozen shares (or less). There's been a surge since the BF debacle, but how sustainable is that?  This week is seeing the highest volume EVER on HL, but I am not betting that it will last.

I would suspect that the majority of people that had shares on BTCT are now holding direct shares, and waiting for a better alternative.

I would hesitate to put much faith in a value based on such thin order books.

It appears FC will be offering us that alternative you seek in the near future. I don't think at the moment there is any model that can even determine the fair value of a share of AM within an order of magnitude. There is just too much we do not know at this time.
247  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 21, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
Solving problems before most people are even aware that they exist... sounds like an outstanding business model. FC must have noted that cooling was a major issue when he deployed thousands of blades. It will likely be something any large deployment will have to address. Having an in-hand solution puts you miles ahead of of those who deploy a farm and then find expansion difficult due to cooling issues. There is a practical limit to what one can accomplish with air cooling and that sets a cap on density, and thereby efficiency. This may be one of the best investments a company could pursue, with every major deployment as a customer.

It is said that in the gold rush, the ones who made the money were those selling picks and shovels. The truth is that those who became rich were those who provided a marketplace and distribution channels for those who wished to sell picks and shovels. It appears that FC has noted this, and is taking steps to be the leader in this arena as well.
248  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will Bitcoin hit $200? on: October 21, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
To state that "x" is not sustainable or that "y" is overpriced or that "z" is unrealistic shows an amazing amount of hubris. You could be right, or you could be wrong, but both have very little to do with methodologies and almost everything to do with luck. At this point I don't think anyone has a clear idea is going to happen one day to the next. Knowing this is likely the most valuable piece of information you can hold... knowing that in effect you know nothing.
249  Economy / Economics / Re: Everyone says US can't raise debt ceiling forever. Why? on: October 18, 2013, 06:02:58 PM
Ignore the debt ceiling which is just a charade the government puts up and focus instead on the debt. All the debt is earning interest. As the total amount of debt rises, eventually the interest on the debt will cost more than the country takes in in revenues from taxes. At that point the only way for the government to pay that interest is by borrowing more money (also known as running a ponzi scheme) or by printing more dollars. Printing more dollars results in inflation. As the rate of inflation goes up, people demand higher interest rates to offer more debt, and so a vicious cycle begins where you need to print even more money and you enter hyperinflation. One thing that could shake up this fiasco is if people start to demand debt denominated in something other than USD. Then the government would not have the option of just printing more money to pay back the debt.

The debt ceiling is like a guy with a credit card saying "I am not going to go more than $1000 dollars in debt", then when he hits that and still wants to buy stuff he says "I am not going to go more than $2000 in debt", he can keep going on up as long as he wants until he gets to his credit card limit set by the card issuer. Then it doesn't matter where he puts his own limit, he could say "I am not going to be more than $8000 in debt", but if his limit is at $2500, he will never be able to get to his debt ceiling, he will have to stop at $2500.

Same fallacy again in the same thread  Shocked

Its nothing like a credit card limit.  Owners of credit cards don't own money printing presses.  The government does.  If it all goes wrong, they can print more money.  That's why its a safe investment - it can never fail to be repaid.

Did you even read what I said? The credit card limit is not the debt ceiling, it is what lenders are willing to lend to the country. As the debt goes up it will be harder and harder to find people willing to lend money, just like as you max out your credit card it becomes harder and harder to find somebody to give you another credit card. What happens when people are no longer willing to buy US debt denominated in USD since it is inflating, and they will only buy US debt denominated in other currencies (whether it be gold, euro, bitcoin, whatever)? When people stop buying USD denominated US debt, then the US will no longer have a printing press with which to pay back the debts, and they will have to operate in the same world as the guy with the credit card. Would you give a guy a loan if his income is less than the minimum payments on his current loans?

What happens is, the Fed just buys all of the debt. There is no practical reason they cannot just buy it all if no one else will take it. Although, what that does to the exchange rate and the balance of trade is anyone's guess.
250  Economy / Economics / Re: Mass Adoption of BTC on: October 18, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
My wife has an online antique business, and sells through a variety of outlets including ebay. I showed her what coinbase was doing with their system including bitdazzle. She was blown away. Her fees drop so significantly that if is almost as if she had been walking uphill to the well to get some water with two anvils strapped to her back, and now she can just drop the anvils and run up the hill.

I am not trying to shill for coinbase or bitdazzle, and I don't know how they will play out in the future. But I do think that if businesses adopt a similar model and it actually works as advertised that those who do not adopt will wither and die. This is a real-world example where bitcoins as a concept meets bitcoins as an application and the results can be staggering. For ecommerce it will be adopt or perish.

If you stuck with filecabinets and typewriters you went bankrupt in the 1980's.

If you decided your business did not need a website you went bankrupt in the 1990's.

If you ignore bitcoins and stay with paypal and credit cards you will go bankrupt by 2015. You will not be able to compete with those who adapt and adopt. They will take all of your business because of the direct benefit to their bottom line. They will be able to offer lower prices and strangle you.
251  Economy / Economics / Re: Everyone says US can't raise debt ceiling forever. Why? on: October 18, 2013, 05:00:53 PM
If printing money does not cause inflation, then why does the government bother with budgets at all? They could just print up money and spend it on whatever they like. They could simply print up 10 million dollars for every citizen, hand it out, and then we could all retire and live in luxury. The truth is, printing money is a balancing act between goods and services produced and the amount of currency available for circulation. Go to little or too much and things get jacked up really fast.

252  Economy / Gambling / Re: <<(( Satoshi Squared ))>> Announces free btc with every new account on: October 18, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
forgot password is missing  Angry

Forwarded to dev team for implementation. Feature should be available within 48 hours.
253  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Satoshi Squared: Cheap advertising for fun and profit on: October 18, 2013, 12:18:55 PM
Bump for new infographic
254  Economy / Gambling / Re: <<(( Satoshi Squared ))>> Announces free btc with every new account on: October 18, 2013, 12:13:47 PM
Bump for new infographic.
255  Economy / Auctions / Re: <<<Satoshi Squared>>> Auction-based advertising on: October 18, 2013, 02:07:53 AM
What kind of password error is "Exceeded maximum number of characters." It's 16 characters -- what are you, my bank?  Cheesy

You also cut off a letter from my title without telling me. Man, wtf.   Cheesy

Thanks for pointing those out. I will get the dev guys on those, especially allowing more text in the title box that can be displayed in the ad. Appreciate the feedback.
256  Economy / Auctions / Re: <<<Satoshi Squared>>> Auction-based advertising on: October 18, 2013, 01:58:57 AM
All new verified accounts receive 0.00005 to try it out!
257  Economy / Auctions / <<<Satoshi Squared>>> Auction-based advertising on: October 18, 2013, 01:55:00 AM
258  Economy / Securities / Re: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2013 on: October 17, 2013, 02:50:32 PM
Cheesy
And this is why Bitcoin is great: idiots won't be bailed out, and won't be able to mis-invest again.

This.
259  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 17, 2013, 12:58:43 PM
Quick Update

We are still on track of accumulating reinvestment funds, continuing from last month, so please expect less-than-raw-income dividends in the next few weeks. The financials will be given out in October 20s, as mentioned in the last update.

Self-retained (not sold) Hashrate distribution:

Air cooling datacenter - 47TH/s
Under franchising - 19TH/s
Immersion cooling - 5TH/s with 3-5TH/s per day towards 60TH/s in total.

it will be great to see the financial report soon on Oct 20.

once all of this hashrate is deployed (126 Thash/s) with current difficulty we will get around

per Week   ฿1,656.75   $233,932.99

which means 0,004 BTC per share. That is not counting the HW sales, I see some light on the horizon Smiley

mmm maybe I am misunderstanding this but doesnt it mean
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5TH/s with 3-5TH/s per day towards 60TH/s in total
, That the 47TH will be 60TH and not that 60 will be added to the 47TH?

I don't think he is taking running blades out and then immersion cooling them. The immersion cooling is probably additional blades so that would be 47 + 60 + 19 for 126 Ths.
260  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 17, 2013, 12:32:52 PM

it will be great to see the financial report soon on Oct 20.

I suppose that depends on the contents of the report. I do have high expectations though.
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