I would argue that these things *should* be done. Bitcoin should be attacked and abused to the max, all the time. I don't want to store my wealth in a system where we have to kindly ask people not to break it. We already have that. Break this shit, and please do it quick. I don't want to be surprised in the future. This is the correct answer really, though BurtW is right in that it can be an annoyance. I have found it useful for notarizing or timestamping data, using http://deedbot.org/ |
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it looks even more similar to blazr2's avatar? is this a coincidence or maybe a joke?  I LOVE this  Right down to the Blazr2 LOGO. I have got to get my hands on some of this. Maybe if we drink enough of this blazr2 Unobtanium beer, we can summon The Great Old back to this thread. The merchants listed here have it: http://boxingrock.ca/blog/unobtainium |
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Ok, I'll try it again this weekend. Thats also what the magic dice game said to do. cryptapus is correct, because vnc is all kinds of filthy and slow. If you need help setting up your ssh keys or a yubi just pm me. |
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I requested that C-CEX reduce their UNO witdhrawal fee. 0.1 is too steep, it's 0.01 on Bleutrade, 0.0002 on Bittrex & 0.0001 on Cryptopia. I'd probably even ask Bleutrade to reduce theirs if we went over $5/coin.
Thanks for letting us know. 0.0001 is set. Cryptopia is the only exchange I use for $uno. api just works. |
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Just thought I'd drop in and LOL because waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than 2 weeks have passed since this bold declaration and still no 20 MB blocks and Mike Hearn has ragequit.
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BIG POST SNIP ~
I think you make too much sense for this forum Great post and balanced. Hopefully both sides of the debate may be a bit more open minded and learn something. I like the point that XT is off the table (clearly), yet you still see "XTards" comments and such. Its actually pretty funny. Does classictard suit you better? |
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i like to think outside of the box. and it seems that many people argue, if your not a XT supporter you must be a blockstream supporter.
which brings people to start a 'race war' about which community people belong to.
but think outside of the box and ask yourself,
in 2011 when mining was done on GPU, why wasnt there "security risks" and people crying when the average block went from 100kb to 200kb, when the average persons hard drive was 250gb
why in 2013 when mining was done by 60ghash miners and the blocks were 500kb average and peoples hard drives were 500gb average, that there was no big arguments?
why in 2016 where a 2TB hard drive is cheap enough for regular people to buy, suddenly there is a problem for even an increase of the blocklimit to 2mb.
afterall if a GPU that is 1,000,000 slower than just one current asic, but was able to handle 10% of a 2mb block potential(200kb average bloat).. then just going by the numbers. an asic can handle alot more let alone a farm of asics. and the amount of ram the pool can put on their motherboards is higher than previous years too, meaning it debunks the the block hashing problem.(crying about orphans)
as for non mining user distribution of the solved blocks(full node users).. a 2tb hard drive can fix that argument too.. as a 2mb block would allow for 104gb yearly bloat, for ~20 years
even gavins proposed 8mb allows users to have 412gb yearly bloat for 5 years..
i personally think 8mb is a bit much straight off the cuff. id prefer 2mb and then increase if bottlenecks happen in the future.
by which time internet speed and storage capacity would be far more then average now. and affordable by average people.
if the debate is about bandwidth.. well i run a fullnode, i watch streaming videos (netflix, etc) play online gaming.. and i dont have any internet hiccups, and i dont expect to have any if the blocks went upto 2mb either. and im on a internet speed of under 20mb/s (nothing special)
once you realise that netflix streams at 1gb/hour SD and 3gb/hour HD.. which equates to 166mb every 10 minutes SD or 500mb every 10 minutes HD. you will then see that moaning about 1mb, 2mb, 8mb for something that gives you financial security.. is smallfry compared to bandwidth bloat of video which gives you just boredom relief temporarily.
in short if your computer and internet can handle netflix.. then blocksizes are not a problem
in short:
i just dont see a rational and logical reason why upping the block limit is going to be so disastrous
i would also like to know. out of all the people arguing which camp people belong to, and also what is the best way forward for bitcoin as a whole...who of them actually runs a bitcoin full node. as i think it should only be a discussion for those people who will actually be running a full node. or actually want to run a full node
I am neither an XT supporter, nor a Blockstream supporter. I support Bitcoin. |
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We can't both be quite happy with how things are changing, because one of us keeps frantically trying to protect the status quo
We'd just all be happy if you could leave Bitcoin alone and take care of your altcoins. Quite. To put it succinctly: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000184.htmlany implementation that does not validate the entire blockchain during initial sync, including transaction signatures, may not be considered a Bitcoin client How hard is that to understand? |
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Only the charlatans are not brave/honest enough to come up with a proper name and instead leech on bitcoin's name notoriety.
Only the authoritarians are not brave/honest enough to live by the free market they claim they espouse to. People calling themselves libertarians, but demanding protectionism in what's supposed to be an open and permissionless system, free from restrictions. I'm pretty left wing myself, you'd probably even call me "statist", but apparently even I have more stomach for an open market than you do, coward. Yes. They represent the Front National. They are fulltime statists/fascists/National collectivists. (hdbuck, iCE, brg444) Is this genuinely true? I've seen iCEBREAKER wear the Front National logo as an avatar, but are all three of them? "The National Front is a socially conservative, nationalist political party in France. Its major policies include economic protectionism, a zero tolerance approach to law and order issues, and opposition to immigration." Oh! Lovely.   ie rascist fascists swella win for bitcoinTo be fair we hate fat people too. |
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I think i'll stick with Satoshi's vision. hint: Bitcoin started with 32MB blocks. 1MB was intended to be a temporary spam measure. qntra eh?  God damn, you can't even meme correctly. |
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I'm afraid you noobs and authority cravers handle bitcoin to USG and corporations for the Big Brother Finale. (FASCIST!  ) Bitcoin is about freedom, but freedom is not about democracy. It is about the individual (as in the individual must be able to mine, run a full node, access the blockchain and cryptographic signatures by himself).Not the illusion of the greater number of stupid 'marketed' sheeple precipitating the rest into the abyss. Bitcoin consensus mechanism fights exactly this by preventing social/populist coup over its protocol. You are stupid if you think any fork attempt will be successful as the previous ones lamely failed and with not even as much people involved as of now. Bitcoin's protocol is not some incorporated IOS that has to be upgraded every two weeks tm. This is the core of why I don't agree with a lot of the proposals out there. They seek to weaken Bitcoin's cryptography in some way or pass off complete signatures as not necessary. Without a fully verified node you may as well be using pebbles recorded in the rockchain, You do realize that Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) was a major section in Satoshi's original white paper right? It was part of the Bitcoin vision from day 1. So where you do get this shit from? SPV doesn't weaken the cryptography at all. You're spouting nonsense. I have no issues with SPV wallets in general. It is possible to use one that verifies off your own personal server. It's not nonsense at all. I sense a redditard. http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000184.htmlJust because it is appropriate for the bitcoin foundation (an institution) to run a full node doesn't mean every individual user has to...which was the whole point of Satoshi's SPV...So yeah, it IS nonsense. I'm not going to argue further with yet another brain-damaged BIP101 supporter, as you most certainly are. Relevant quote from #bitcoin-assets today http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1368164See also: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/Good luck with your scamcoin. |
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All is ok for me. All my payouts have been carried out correctly.
Thanks everybody for the support!
This thread can be closed.
Good to know. Thank you for your patience. |
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I'm afraid you noobs and authority cravers handle bitcoin to USG and corporations for the Big Brother Finale. (FASCIST! ) Bitcoin is about freedom, but freedom is not about democracy. It is about the individual (as in the individual must be able to mine, run a full node, access the blockchain and cryptographic signatures by himself).Not the illusion of the greater number of stupid 'marketed' sheeple precipitating the rest into the abyss. Bitcoin consensus mechanism fights exactly this by preventing social/populist coup over its protocol. You are stupid if you think any fork attempt will be successful as the previous ones lamely failed and with not even as much people involved as of now. Bitcoin's protocol is not some incorporated IOS that has to be upgraded every two weeks tm. This is the core of why I don't agree with a lot of the proposals out there. They seek to weaken Bitcoin's cryptography in some way or pass off complete signatures as not necessary. Without a fully verified node you may as well be using pebbles recorded in the rockchain, You do realize that Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) was a major section in Satoshi's original white paper right? It was part of the Bitcoin vision from day 1. So where you do get this shit from? SPV doesn't weaken the cryptography at all. You're spouting nonsense. I have no issues with SPV wallets in general. It is possible to use one that verifies off your own personal server. It's not nonsense at all. I sense a redditard. http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000184.html |
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No problem. I'll post any developments if I see them discussed in chat. |
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Long live La Serenissima. @siameze join us sometimes on #bitcoin-assets |
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I heard Tiff is getting married?
Ahahhahahahah yup on 31 February!! Now , where in the world did u hear that? That's it I'm having calendars made with Feb 31st on them  Good luck with that lol We ain't getting married, woman? You're crushing my hopes. I'll start using the sock again. Use a soft one , so u wont hurt yourself mhuahahhaha #rekt |
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