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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 09:41:59 PM
@ dhouse
@ Marvell2
I did not equate my equipment (miners) into this price as I already had them in different locations. But your number don't even cover my miners, even on the cheap.
Infrastructure alone is brutal to set this stuff up. It's a ton more than what you said with no equipment,  Especially if you want to do it correctly.

Out of curiosity, how was your strategy to actually get all the gear? You must've ordered all directly from the gpu and asic manufacturers? Or the aib partners? Who assembled all the rigs? That's a massive undertaking on industrial scale...

I accumulated over time.  I built them all myself.  It was a ton of work but got it done!  I flew to china met the mfgs got screwed by a few met some good ones and got most of the stuff direct.  I dont have many asics, but the ones I have I bought off of bitmain.  Last year was tough as hell to get anything as we all know.  Lot of people got screwed by the Chinese.  I have mainly 470 8g / 1070 8g / 1060 6g.  I have some 4gb but always liked the more ram to protect myself from whatever comes next.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is Cryptocurrency Mining Dying? GPU vs ASIC | VoskCoin Crypto Farm | August 2018 on: August 02, 2018, 09:17:20 PM
My thought is this:

2-3 years ago I was making 3 bucks a unit now we are making 5-7$ and people bitch.

Is it harder hell yes, is it less profitable not really.  Especially if you paid for all your stuff already  

The people that jumped on last year and were making 20-45$ a day but paid exorbitant prices are crying but all the old timers have seen it before.  We knew, or should of known, we should be saving that $ because skinny times always come.

The ASIC revolution is stupid but what you gonna do.  

It all boils down to this. If I can put one dollar in a vending machine and it pops out 2 dollars, HELL YES I will sit there all day!  Tongue

Past performance is not an indicator of future results.  The landscape has change.  Your numbers are all out of wack.  I'm making negative each day after electric cost avg of 28 cents.

Saying we make $5-7 a unit is false.  

Your vending machine analogy is stupid b/c the reality is that you gota spend $2000 for a vending machine that will only pump out $1 dollar a day and will be outdated in 2 years.  That means you lose money .

and and difficulty rises with time so therefore you get rekt even more. Miners are dumb



All I know is I make 3-4 bucks per machine a day after electric expense of roughly 2 bucks so that = 6$ per machine.  YOU might not make 6 bucks total a day but I do.  28 cents is stupid, i pay less than half that.  I have owned my equipment for years and while I upgrade all the time, I still make money.  So sux you can't make money doing it but I know I can.
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
@ dhouse
@ Marvell2
I did not equate my equipment (miners) into this price as I already had them in different locations. But your number don't even cover my miners, even on the cheap.
Infrastructure alone is brutal to set this stuff up. It's a ton more than what you said with no equipment,  Especially if you want to do it correctly.
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is Cryptocurrency Mining Dying? GPU vs ASIC | VoskCoin Crypto Farm | August 2018 on: August 02, 2018, 06:46:36 PM
My thought is this:

2-3 years ago I was making 3 bucks a unit now we are making 5-7$ and people bitch.

Is it harder hell yes, is it less profitable not really.  Especially if you paid for all your stuff already  

The people that jumped on last year and were making 20-45$ a day but paid exorbitant prices are crying but all the old timers have seen it before.  We knew, or should of known, we should be saving that $ because skinny times always come.

The ASIC revolution is stupid but what you gonna do.  

It all boils down to this. If I can put one dollar in a vending machine and it pops out 2 dollars, HELL YES I will sit there all day!  Tongue
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 06:40:30 PM
@ Marvell2
Heliox aka eliovp (my boy!) custom Linux OS and some Smos
246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
@ gotminer
Thanks Brah!

@VoskCoin
DUDE come over, we will have those giant Porter Houses hehe!
Been speaking with Octominer guys, they are coming to visit me in a couple months.
247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 12:26:04 PM
Congratulations hope everything works out for you it's great to see US mining facilities being setup in the US by US citizens

Thanks buddy!

Also here is a video of the current setup.  DON'T JUDGE, I'm not done yet.  Need Hot isle walls etc in.  By the end of next week I should have all that in place.

https://youtu.be/qBmjZk2DZaw
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 02, 2018, 11:55:54 AM
@ dhouse
Close to 5000  Tongue

@ shaggy4411
canarm they are a canada company that makes giant exhausts
yes I have merv 10 filters on every entry point

@m1n1ngP4d4w4n
@ Heidim
Thanks and hope so or she just wants me gone most the time!   Cry
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The only answer to cooling of mining rigs without spending big $$ on: August 01, 2018, 06:12:32 PM
Yeah it's not unlike most I have seen venting exhaust.  Basically, if it drops your temps and it won't kill you, then you are good  Tongue

Nice fans though, they look heavy duty.
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 01, 2018, 05:42:27 PM
@ philipma1957
We are chatting - Thanks =)

@ vmozara
I met with a ton of electricians and this guy I use is bad ass.  This is all cable tray wire going into twistlock 30A 3 phase.  All panels are 400 Amp 3 phase.  Each PDU feeds 2 x 400 Amp panels
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain APW7 Electric Fire with Baikal BK X Units on: August 01, 2018, 05:36:07 PM
Damn man.  You probably just got a crappy PSU =(

I don't believe in coincidences

That's horrible.....  Cry
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 01, 2018, 03:15:28 PM
@ nsummy
I own the building
I have 8 strands of fiber internet at 100meg inbound. but yea if someone cuts line I am jacked.  It's buried super deep, plus I know the president that provides the service.  I can get a crew out in hours to fix it.
I have a ton of managed 48 port switches - so for customers I can assign diffrent vlans etc.
Nothing yet.  Have GPU Temp is 65 ish and 50-55 at night
  
@ areyouathief
Those are 480V 15 HP Fans pulling 20 amps each.  
Once my hot isles are fully created the airflow will be massive and naturally the temps will drop on the supply side.  I added 3 fans though just in case I need another but 2 should do it max, and a spare.
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The only answer to cooling of mining rigs without spending big $$ on: August 01, 2018, 03:05:06 PM
All that cardboard and 90+ C ref cards = major Fire Hazard.  Concept is good but many other ways to achieve what you are doing and not burn your house down.
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer E3 Review & Tutorial | Ethereum ASIC Miner | Error | Setup on: August 01, 2018, 02:20:26 PM
how hot is it running?

Hey send me a PM if you are close i'll let you tour my facility.  I built an apt inside as well so no hotels or anything hehe.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4789787.0
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: August 01, 2018, 02:18:50 PM
@ jmigdlc99
Like Metroid said, I doubt that would ever happen, especially since that halving and stuff.  Long story short though, i'd mine until I couldn't afford too then power down and sit on coins.  I hope that never happens but always a slim possibility.

@ CryptoDocker
@ Lunga Chung
Mainly GPU rigs - about half and half on AMD / Nvidia then about 60 ASICS
most 8gb of RAM and 8 GB video cards / 1060 are all 6GB

@ shibob
I'm in the process of adding 2 x more 10ft x 10ft Vents as a matter of fact.

@ zarapp
I bought a bunch of octo cases from them.  Really good dudes if you have not dealt with them, they are trustworthy.  Harry is a stand up dude.  
Black boxes are direct from the mfg that makes Panda and all the other ones like that.  Impossible to get to unless you go to china and basically blow them.

@ sockpuppet1911
Thanks!

@ LaTene
 Tongue

@agente
@N0pr3s3n7
Not really an easy question since I need to recover my investment of a F*CK TON.  When I start renting space it will be about 95$ a KW (0.13 cents-ish).  Fair, especially for the CA types.

@ banman24
Thanks!

@ SirNeo
yeah but if we could all predict that, no one would be miners.  I like the work that I do plus the rewards I get, PLUS if a venture capital group comes along and wants me they will pay me an ass ton for it.  Remember I own a physical asset not just crypto




256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: July 31, 2018, 08:48:43 PM
Thanks Guys appreciate it!  Nah we are not rich but I did not have debt therefore I could take a task/risk like this.  


@Set Ready Go
Ya LOL my gas dryer was still offline so why not use miners to dry the clothes  Tongue


@MagicSmoker
All in brotha.


@Metroid
Thanks man, i'm in for the long haul.
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: July 31, 2018, 04:19:22 PM
FIRST OF ALL - I know many of you all have better rates than this at home and if you don't want this service move on.  Don't post crap stuff here please as most sane people know this is pretty fair deal.

OK onto the soup:

I Have received many, many PM's for hosting.  YES! I will rent space out and the rate is 75$ a KW, MINIMUM of 10kw.  I pay a little less than that of course in electricity, but the cost to build this facility was immense and I have to try and recoup some of that.    

A little about me and company.  I have been in crypto for 4-5 years now and love it!  I'm an IT guy before it was cool to be IT, late 80's-90's.  I have owned and operated www.minerdude.com (yeah website sucks i'll fix in Jan 2019) for quite some time but recently I decided to stop selling miners, since everyone and their dog is doing it now, and start to do pure hosting.  Please pardon the website as it's a work in progress for the transition.  Don't BUY anything on it yet before speaking with me or my staff.  Number to contact us is on the site, or you can email or a PM here.  OMG what a concept right you can actually call us.

What I offer: (more to follow)

Top Notch 42,000 square foot Facility
Full monitoring (all my Power Switches are metered and switched so you will be able to VPN in and reboot yourself)
Security - I invested quite a bit to secure every inch of this area.  We are adding more weekly.  Cameras, keypads etc.
No one is allowed back there unless they go through a background check plus have a ton of machines.  If you have 20 or less - I will set them up or a supervisor will be with you at all times.
Cameras everywhere, inside and out.  
Working on 24/7 security company to office out of here.  Should have that in a month or 2



Few Rules: (more to follow)

1.) Must be more than 10kw of usage per customer
2.) 1 Month prepay then before the next pay month you must pay or I'll shut you off till you do (crypto is OK and preferred but Wire, Check, CC OK)  BTC, LTC, ETH - Example you paid 1 months prepaid May(paid) if you don't pay May 30 for June your machines will power down at midnight until that fee is paid.
3.) I was going to put 1 year contract in place but Instead it's 3 months!  (you still need to sign a contract but it will be month to month)
4.) This is standard but no one tells you this: My insurance will not cover your stuff!  If you want it insured then you need to get renters insurance etc. I can point you in the right direction should you want to pursue this, most don't.  
5.) ALL GPU's Will have to be in enclosed cases.  If they are not we have minerdude 9 card cases available.  No fee to install if you ship your stuff we will transfer into a case no charge other than the case.
6.) Reboot services * if we are manually rebooting more than 2 - 3 times a week there will either be a tech fee to try and fix it or take it offline and ship it back to you for repair.


More to come!  Just tossing this out there.

I have already put 4mw of customers in here and I have .5 mw left.  It's filling up pretty quick, kind of nice =)  People from California and Europe especially sending equipment over because of their high rate.
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: July 31, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Videos!

Welcome to Minerdude Video! - https://youtu.be/_MMpYbuS0Mg

Voskcoin Review! - https://youtu.be/9GUqypxLkwk

BAREBONE Build Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5XjVhD8xY4

RX470 Unit Video - https://youtu.be/8Rz4BrE-OWY

P104 Video - Video Not Ready Yet

259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / A Man, A Dream and a 4MW Facility. My journey setting this badboy up on: July 31, 2018, 04:18:54 PM
Hello community!

I have been mining for years now.  Like many, this started as a hobby.  I'm an IT guy that owns a small consulting company and a HVAC company (long story) and do pretty decent for myself.  I'm not loaded, but I live nicely (My wife has a spectacular job as well is why LOL)  Anyway about 2 years ago during a stretch of hard time in the crypto industry where machines were making 2-3$ day, I spoke to my wife and decided to risk it and bet long on crypto.  The reason in my mind was price.  I could get equipment at a reasonable price not like last year when everything went nuts.  I went from 1 machine to test to 20 quickly, then after the talk flew to china to meet with mfg's and see about getting hundreds.  Great city Shenzhen is by the way visit if you ever get the chance.  Mfg as we all know now and i did not know back then, is that most Chinese companies are total scum bag greedy bastards.  They will sell you out for the same amount of dollars if the other party is Chinese.  They take care of their own first, admirable i guess, and if there is any scraps left then you can have those, normally at a higher price than what you agreed upon.  Met with a few, lost some money on one or two and finally got one that worked well.

In May of 2017 I entered into an agreement with a hosting company up north for 250kw of power.  Great bunch of guys I am proud to call friends now.  I had full use of facility and was their biggest client taking 1/4 of their power.  This July I finally completed and moved out into my facility.  

At the end of 2017 and along with my wife's support, since she is the only breadwinner (hodl the crypto!) at this point because I went all in on crypto, I began the search for a building that I could put in a crap ton of power.  It's not as easy as one would think by the way!  It took months of talking to electric delivery and cities because of regulations, taxes, incentives and all that fun stuff.  I purchased a building and began my quest to build a mining facility that I can have for myself and rent out space once complete.  My major focus was having something I can call mine, but do it in a way that I can automate it so I don't have to be at the location 24/7 to manage it.  Mid July 2018, my 4 megawatt 43,000 square foot facility was pretty much ready.  There were many road blocks and turns to get to this point but it was all worth it.  I use about 1 megawatt for me.  I'm mainly a GPU guy but have 50-60 asics.    I have 20 security cameras on the outside and a bunch on the inside.  I am in the process of adding magnetic locks for keypad entry.  I fully gutted the offices and made them in my image.  I went ahead and purchased warehouse racks and took advantage of the height in here.  Being an HVAC guy I know that cooling at this magnitude is just cost prohibitive so I went with major ventilation.  Every 2 mw hot isle has 3 - 60,000 cfm up-blast exhaust fans running.  1 and a half can do the job but just in case I have a catastrophic fan failure I have a spare.  I have all metered and switched CDU so that I can remotely reboot any machine I want.  I am fed from two substations with switches on either side of my building just in case there is a fault at the power company the switch will kill that feed so I can continue on the other.  I have the ok from the power company and the city to go to 12 mw if I ever wanted too.  I have the space and I might do that some day =)

I did not cheap out on anything other than the obvious, cooling.  I made this right because I made it for me.  Even if I don't rent out a single kw, i'll be happy because I know in my heart this was done the way I wanted it and what most people would dream about.  I'm like the hair club for men guy, I'm not just the president, I'm also a member!  

Looking at the pictures below really don't do justice to the enormity of this thing and the cost.  Everything is expensive at this level of electricity.  Cable is triple what I thought it would be for example.  

Location obviously not disclosed. It is in Northern USA

Anyway, enough of my ranting here are some pictures and ask questions i'll be more than happy to answer.  Please be patient though as this facility is still taking most of my time.

FIRST COMEDY OUTTAKES!

My washer was ready but drier was not so i put my clothes on racks behind units to dry =)


Big Ass Steaks first day units came online!



Pipes Being Laid (8 x 4 inch per 2MW)


Pads & Containment Ready! (6K per Pad Cost)


Poles Set!


Transformer Set!


On with first 2MW!


300Kva PDU x 6 for fist 2 MW


First 18 Machines on OMGz!


Few more machines up.  About 600 or so.



Ventilation for massive fans (need more btw)



Giant Ass Fans 6ft x 6ft


HOT ISLES IN!




ALUMINUM FILTERS IN!





All Electrical: https://imgur.com/a/WgQeGYm

All Fans & Ventilation: https://imgur.com/a/ug5kmyw

All Digging https://imgur.com/a/dxp3Y0I

All Pads: https://imgur.com/a/AIFit4w

All Poles: https://imgur.com/a/oOfs92s

All Racks: https://imgur.com/a/4K3ZJUO

All Building: https://imgur.com/a/O8CdxeF


  
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining room cooling - How much airflow for 20kW? on: July 28, 2018, 08:52:22 PM
I am a AC guy. 

Here is the calc if you want to cool the place.  (I would not, but some do.)
Total watts x 3.14 BTU / 12,000 = Total Tonnage

Example
20K watts x 3.14 = 62,800 / 12,000 = 5.23 tons of air will do it without ventilation.  So 6 Tons counting room etc would suffice to keep that beast about 72 F
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