I estimated he was 36% done. So maybe another 4 months of dumping.
He's currently working on block 6539. If you list all the initial distribution CLAMs in reverse order of the block in which they were created, block 6539 is 27% of the way through. I don't know of a better way to estimate how far through he is.
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[his usual crap]
I don't know if it's possible to auto-delete posts by particular posters in a self-moderated thread...
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The digger that timed his sell off with a big win seems to be watching JD hes a hardcore lurker ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Someone is having fun playing the game got to enjoy dental. The mere existence of the digger means there's less buoyancy to the price than there would be without him. Anyone seeing dental win 40k could have been tempted to sell a bunch of CLAM to get in before dental sold off - it needn't have been the digger. Here's an updated chart of the digging - there's no big jump around 24 hours ago when the price dropped: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEwrQ49G.png&t=663&c=yYIXMLguuGOONQ)
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I don't get the difference ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Can you make an example calculation for old and new system? Maybe it's this: * before: each food blob was worth a certain amount of satoshi, and so the number of food blobs in the play area was limited by the amount that people had bought in with. At the end of the game any remaining food blobs are divided equally between the players. Sometimes if there was a lot of uneaten food in the play area it was +EV to buy in with 1 second remaining, because your share of the uneaten food was more than the buy-in. * now: each food blob is only worth "points", which don't have a fixed BTC value, so the game can create them without constraint. At the end of the game the pot is divided between players in proportion to their mass, so there's always enough money in the pot to pay everyone. Uneaten food blobs aren't divided between players, so it's never +EV to buy in at the last second. Am I close?
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i spent my last minute staring at that picture. lol. what they are doing in the gambling section? xD
I know, right. And did the photographer not even notice that the ladies are not looking at the camera? I can take better photos than this!
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In essence, he s been centralizing CLAM digging big time. One person who can influence the market whatever way he wants.
I don't think so. He had hundreds of thousands of CLAM, and has been steadily selling it on poloniex to whoever wants to buy it. That should have a decentalising effect on the coin. The only problem is that almost everyone who buys from him ends up putting the coins on Just-Dice, and so no decentralisation happens. Well, again, it all comes down to patience, if you believe in something, all you need to do is wait. But I have to admit, this development does make me restless. I did buy most of my CLAM at 2x this current price and now when I realize one single person can affect the market this much, I start to wonder if my CLAM involvement was a good idea or not.
I think it's always going to be the case that a coin with such a small market cap can be easily pushed around by someone with sufficient wealth. The market cap of CLAM is less than a million dollars, which is tiny in comparison with Bitcoin, say. In CLAM's case things are made worse due to the initial distribution, which gave huge numbers of coins to people with big messy wallets.
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Wow, what a rollercoaster.
Here's his chart: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FT70LEc8.png&t=663&c=P9TsyhN0T7SjGg) and a close-up of just yesterday: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7Kyb3Ot.png&t=663&c=LZj-HM0cJOUQEg) and the site profit: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7UMAz3R.png&t=663&c=HdEd-9aJtlooVA)
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Today I used the pushtx page of just-dice to push a raw transaction, I got the message "OK", but it would be nice to have a transaction ID to go along with that. This is just my request/suggestion in regards this page: https://just-dice.com/pushtxIf there's another pushtx page elsewhere that can push txs in hex format into the clam network and which gives you back the txid, that'd be great. Oh, and I guess I can just hash my transaction to get my transaction id? Is that correct? Do I use sha256sum or something like that? I've added the txid to the output. You'll see it when I push the next update to the site. It's live now. You'll get a txid if /pushtx is successful: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVorAxAj.png&t=663&c=cxENxvsSwR70GA)
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What looks bleak is that ever since that whale digger showed up the price has been collapsing and he's only 20% of the way through his stash.
What s the address? It's 4.6 CLAMs in each of around 100,000 different addresses. If we plot a chart showing which of the first 10k blocks each set of 4.6 CLAMs was dug from over time, we see this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdGoTg7q.png&t=663&c=dLquHzYCytFAjg) That heavy line cutting across the chart diagonally is the digger. He is (or at least was) moving his coins in reverse order of the block in which the coins were given to him. I say "was" because the most recent digs no longer follow that pattern. Check the last number on each line. Until recently that number was steadily dropping, and had reached a low of 6584. But about 4 hours ago (it's Fri Oct 16 18:09:02 UTC 2015 now) the pattern stopped: 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:337 xPEfaGjAXFCjoxYPRNNmaChWbZ3sTWZKX2 from block 6584 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 9a4515df4b34a16b8a08e0ec5ed0c4b17620f3549d6627f90b44224c7a5229ba:308 xJWhxzw3fg37sYKBJL2KpyxC3Zjs6nx4rY from block 6587 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 9a4515df4b34a16b8a08e0ec5ed0c4b17620f3549d6627f90b44224c7a5229ba:226 xXSsz6EBnKWE6CfrBfh6XDcaNq9MEnTYTM from block 6587 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 58c5ad27c17cf5e4f3679d30f1930852fc7352cc5cf43cbac5c2cb0a556f44af:18 xKu2YxobvVcmc3yLS1yaiZZUFbagu3YAp1 from block 6588 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 58c5ad27c17cf5e4f3679d30f1930852fc7352cc5cf43cbac5c2cb0a556f44af:112 xTN3Bj6rdajErCrjakngvrERafbvVZBa4R from block 6588 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:353 xHFnCJTrS6AZ5ouvXw8V9PVaz33VQrnHXf from block 6584 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 9a4515df4b34a16b8a08e0ec5ed0c4b17620f3549d6627f90b44224c7a5229ba:293 xTrdjkakH2Sdv7e9yoPcWfLbwuAAtLbezr from block 6587 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 9a4515df4b34a16b8a08e0ec5ed0c4b17620f3549d6627f90b44224c7a5229ba:203 xBQGGFPwY5V1vMdGV2wn5wBodeUANB5Vfq from block 6587 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 9a4515df4b34a16b8a08e0ec5ed0c4b17620f3549d6627f90b44224c7a5229ba:23 xU3KKBgVtxTG33xcPZG49XzmopWHoHZTmb from block 6587 2015-10-16 14:20:34 DIG: 58c5ad27c17cf5e4f3679d30f1930852fc7352cc5cf43cbac5c2cb0a556f44af:116 xW5SBqSD9qSoCBdwDhHHTpGUGfXav7mfuQ from block 6588 2015-10-16 14:25:36 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:248 xQpjfebne4bCR6d9JAr6RkWWKd6W7mnfZB from block 6584 2015-10-16 14:25:36 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:312 xTJBgRLiiDPwkZBVFp1t58XvVhFg7SWmyP from block 6584 2015-10-16 14:25:36 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:300 xCXUoMkQ2RjwrAtAozQzWG9xUUZ9Ky4R9N from block 6584 2015-10-16 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17:21:19 DIG: 89d6e0410d6d65c7fa6b2224f51360eb70207705f33af48f86152043e7bde8e5:16 xPEYXjy8g6aPRLeB5ThLc1dnA8gQK5VQNg from block 2242 2015-10-16 17:21:19 DIG: 9df835ad0c53d055215d3700e085c2b1604658be85f421c59d6d0cb44a98aaf5:25 xXNaELG64Dbsjb8gN5FSCzd5MR96J27wJg from block 6427 2015-10-16 17:21:19 DIG: 896fcfd643ebd533c9e69b357daf3168ed97ddc6c074f7ed68a810b6d87e56f7:27 xSZZ5nSANd8TFUdpd81pPWjFxhn258vd6u from block 3741 2015-10-16 17:21:19 DIG: 681605cec4ccb8ec9f3d1bc35e1a42c1eec43c124b23d6da5948ba42ae5f32fd:265 xGx81fezrDcdy9y7YViutQjLqsmwqUP3i9 from block 6439 2015-10-16 17:21:19 DIG: 2c0dcfb62432c8bc94eaf1d3abc6c0d37c9c11cce6ade459dcf4fe968cf433fd:3 xCvgYtHFnJd6cKUbZVqQ44Bgrf9Y22KtQ2 from block 9121 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: ae7164b5f2d9744f375f78784d1101a2cd4e9c44548cbc26433526592a0d7113:28 xKvmZTdBGo7UkFihxbr3DiezdGKpyQe8uZ from block 5948 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 55074bd513f8ef9aa9fb25e5e2761f2af3456a6aeb3b5121aeb4cfebe58cef15:212 xQLUfAyfkXRoowbBtTe7Bmc3YsKJMa6jLg from block 608 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 88e38b0998ff2e230661ae31a34fb27ea1e9cf53169441284ad2ed8e50a52e18:258 xBm3oazHQe4rWAX759XU6Qfhq9UuksWkYp from block 2687 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 2bb844c44aa675b2d83179f31608cb907e09aea33fe8d4410b625fc91b053409:161 xDLrLAGCG7h9LpAC2xSk464EamVK9GYtJ4 from block 5255 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: a64702ba1676b41e0f368c1aaca8279016088578e6702ef4de1443b777a80712:315 xMANB3JbZysVsuF9CLYW5NANqJ5S41Fhk2 from block 690 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 5f189cdcb98264ad4bef9f1777071867fc2fdc5c4460ee4e6c8ea7f46926b404:308 xERFw12zjr6Eajh2q285kjGMes81vVzFNY from block 8190 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 712ce4757b0a1ef19a9c467369b2e3b36a7798442a8b28a69e6201be8160fd18:138 xCy6YUFustGxVbi2QMtQdDF1iQbSefvjEh from block 5442 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 02291c5992e7abd792c4385be9b80371ad9d9c4eec9226a3812a7aae054e802f:15 x9io9Q4UWeqrF9zdqN6LmLbAMsE3LwMZkw from block 9120 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 749e96ed7982587c529c47261e29f20fb442c08f1b2a10c9ed3d569279caa237:255 xRW3DpPLGmMZgSCZBg53a2cCMWF9uHwT3x from block 3517 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: e21c3b9a66e7bbe48188a6f2e33b5934f7611f681cb65907cf607cafc1d53824:42 xMSLgjRyDHhjTp6NH9VQB6ETQERb4EiSvf from block 8727 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 4b4f34176a537bb684d7fb8f50dc0aa438dd3cc5d9462dead2b4316f24fd4028:100 xAvuV1YTQoENUYLQhGDdnzFWYSh6xF61CX from block 8218 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: f45ac2beb43665c9a23c320a81eb865457e45a1470537d196771fa71be89f33c:128 xJ4SeJJcQfPgUtLCjeywwB3h4SBgCEuUD2 from block 784 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: a512604bf358b9d19797a666d7bd9bcf50638d429e504ee641ddbadd7fb1cd40:6 xBp6AFaRSXYMZJu6PAyVZRJicsE2dQXQj3 from block 2891 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 6f98fea0393acce663ecaf9d3b8a38f68e91837d6491688a4872cf9262ddc646:16 xFyXZRj7rV5ZRMozKNjhdyknYM1ZdMv5eP from block 4397 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: cd8daa1c9ad06a99da3851c2660b9ad69a56537d55ec7ca1aa427f9eed11764a:29 xCjVLnizuPVtavWBLq5xTEJpQ1mqwCywFx from block 8062 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: ca9d7d3428f116fa88432a191f77262ba5257017d8a86cee4b0d4d747744fe62:221 xK68E2pNTfE7Gt6mrczkPBzWwwG6bFGJEQ from block 1738 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: dfc3fa82776b427e7309101b7375b67e750cd4fdd28fa4715216e9899dda2565:226 xBhwxmeYhtwXm33J3cjAjUbECDc6i3EAx2 from block 5199 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: b06cc8fafe2781a395b40795ad7576cd239942aa665c451841bec97651650270:45 x99qY86mC6T8h9NXQSCoMFecEZ7cXGPzy3 from block 3804 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 1c6dba6a496aeed085fa9bff4c9c926020190d14a2bc91fb8fb69341a4418471:281 xC8hfwi7iSyvCFkpgbkkiN1ptytBMBzNFA from block 8265 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 5dedcf005d8d060eea74938590869bb15091f2daa72de95fa9d8b3bc1cdbfb71:9 xNZCQdH3SLx9TAxiE1i6VeRcGwGmtwuoCP from block 3902 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: dbf0671065d4ee9d31f878fabbcbc99cd2aaa70fc3bc291eac1aa26b1a85447b:334 xAC1fTBJjgSCHeiygkxeEkHrEVmAXvBxD7 from block 5997 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 915ef5e8e4a0ad3574de5a01884b31a2901b22b0a464810a136ea04768a4a673:277 xLKg94sjp8ow23hEyUhcV7Yf4dR9LHxzik from block 1320 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 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17:33:04 DIG: 19fc1aae4157fe5c6df822f37b311f53eccac465b8750214ad6934a28aea9290:303 xU4CFgxLqaAa66o21aa9hBxA3hqNPDcpVn from block 3148 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 6fd168e961826f841a1fc7272ac463491898af9637c3f98915005cd381da5b98:199 xVixKgTQWtNQKJDWJKryLH2ixFe33PmC4h from block 1149 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: f28c435efcb15e52a3f6c71980ba0715c595f2830148ec6e4f86a294db2c2b9b:225 xGNEks1QuhkpZipeCKgsiXa8sSWbSHxNQg from block 9026 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: ba7c52dade64a6dae1a89ffb5138e2ab64b9b2b47a4cead8f99b8d5fce62c19b:186 xJpue9J5HCHXurjUPWsBHJeufMENFvceEt from block 3958 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 4a5120da0fc39ab46794aab2698917e00fbdaf177a8d66a500838170713c88a5:134 xDdjcB5CCfdx9NZbwyvz1LYMpxKoeD5WMo from block 6545 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: c0b06567d9144ff4b55facab8fb4096e4facbfe5d070151b01606bae99f4feb4:172 xNkLN9SyNLUMGvzBWXV3QD3mFFmCDTn9WV from block 3795 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 06cc75b7d875755fadff2404d6d793d40c0aa83b3bf85a220caf1823817a7bab:286 x8jsk2vZXt9vHzqvHNxuWWsGud96EFueTL from block 3326 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 560991dbb76b739c601d45358ca391b641879fb7a274b436dba219bfa3e4d3b5:247 xJkZcWE7J6YDdbLcDYPzN4BBhZrQmevQhT from block 1504 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 7f21910466b684f58f0bd8edecb6846e62cc67cf2f70fe1c5a8b6597fb1b96b6:101 xVTTc7oJHY4pktuCtkfBoMTvU3bB5ojvd3 from block 1821 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 6cacc432b8a5078f7c68e961922861677e749fe87904fc91cb5851a7761afcb7:189 xD9Edm5bshNZ2UTe13VTaveNpVALyPGoEw from block 8978 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: b35ef0966bc55561cb4fc1c3675740c2d4cc997024c81f8d38947cb0631573b9:242 xMjUc66mX44HtjLkRfiCccXLRaBhDZNddb from block 1003 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: dfe91cc50c1c32c535c5ccdae8b33d21d259790bbb2b189f0a1bef558f7e23bb:280 xDMMGZuEcxzqs1GHYjmGLRihcDsjykthNA from block 3927 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 9fa9275313589c7304e8b6f858615427f626b605f8f96aa1bf397524307c18cb:232 xB7GJr93xc6dyRhV4iPFmPxsSiP29qYN4h from block 8880 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: ec09efeafd0a0fe561b1fb7a90494da450585dcae14d38cb82919ac2ed8295d4:333 xG5PZd3XCNhdfJdHZe2tkf7yxNjKXtLvgQ from block 3670 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 916ad1742cf3dbcf0afafd17f179826095fc035ad2252fcebb45cb8c446abdd5:330 x8a6ftX9mSmx3JTXujombXh11c77qvcqtg from block 1092 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: b1544ee589e80b866d89963386e074135068bb2275585cf1377601c2c9bdfcd6:336 xPF5ckfZkjUCnYE8p7dZYpwgw3XgVukQSo from block 1553 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 735c13f66c9b199b51c40676a901a1ebfe4e23421412dea35e8a25d5a80464e1:274 xT6cixJGfCJdDRcSVSKmL8NhmBzknag2RH from block 7877 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: c58e37d8fd52a0785535e323f26773312d704bbb8a9dc109c5f2a48d8c44cee1:94 xUEfmKKBBjmSrjZkJtkGBSiXbLvtKhVDtv from block 3015 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: a04a4bccf92fd1926be3b8dba2489fc99f56bb98019502ebcfbeec7bc3e094e9:155 xQkBqJpZ748s7v3cotKdrS24FGsRJwErVa from block 8649 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: bb400d3bd07c43e01069329626035db54413c1f84d7cf71320c50c3dfbb349f8:164 xXA6McZDbbFo2LGfB2bN373RNHBQfxTdVA from block 9059 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 0ed33f1a795d57d0cabae7d4ef96a78dab5115c7861d5eddb995ac24898998fc:245 xGyeVhEP4z98y9mbBrpUWccwU5nFpFvKJa from block 7365 2015-10-16 17:50:00 DIG: e345f79cd366cad70180acf6213ee2d05727c7b012151c977948c2ec6ad63060:91 xCc5vsZtGUxsyhFCP3fky7PF9yQcqsr5Lk from block 3799
Edit: note also that some of the recent digs are from blocks in the 8000's - ie. blocks we previously thought he was already finished with. So either this is a different guy, or the digger has even more addresses than we previously thought. Edit2: the script I used to plot that chart from the raw data in the format pasted above: #!/usr/bin/env gnuplot
set terminal qt size 1350,710 set xdata time set timefmt "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" set xtics format "%d %b %Y" set grid unset key plot ["2015-08-08 00:00:00":*] "/tmp/digs.txt" using 1:8 pause -1
Edit3: false alarm? Block numbers are back in order: 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: bb400d3bd07c43e01069329626035db54413c1f84d7cf71320c50c3dfbb349f8:164 xXA6McZDbbFo2LGfB2bN373RNHBQfxTdVA from block 9059 2015-10-16 17:33:04 DIG: 0ed33f1a795d57d0cabae7d4ef96a78dab5115c7861d5eddb995ac24898998fc:245 xGyeVhEP4z98y9mbBrpUWccwU5nFpFvKJa from block 7365 2015-10-16 17:50:00 DIG: e345f79cd366cad70180acf6213ee2d05727c7b012151c977948c2ec6ad63060:91 xCc5vsZtGUxsyhFCP3fky7PF9yQcqsr5Lk from block 3799 2015-10-16 18:41:43 DIG: 5e813eeef4736173389c51c5a5870b49d44d300cfa4ba8ded9f044f2cf3e0f84:189 xT3H96iHB5sKhJjYt8CYNw9ioAJtJB9SXn from block 5677 2015-10-16 18:41:54 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:242 xW1cfZpp9E5mRgNe7oW3EkQ3bx9is4FxGy from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: fa23adef523e68ac047f6fd7dd03030d2d50396768bf465cd68f94ae154b4818:351 xVBVsf4NRxXKtWe52wsLBGsJU1iun5dong from block 6582 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:190 xAtLoo1wd5oY1TgQxEDgZvKWqvMWkysewX from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:5 xL33yiessBthRY31w29Juhvhn6GtgcqNoy from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:185 xJW5uZmpwBybhiKSzotL39DiYYPNZEGtUt from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:213 xHgr1U7ZDqzirfMXVoAvpkBPi1G3HhzqtZ from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: fa23adef523e68ac047f6fd7dd03030d2d50396768bf465cd68f94ae154b4818:343 xCw3DUbmu5czWK5abQbFAushCyAiSfozHt from block 6582 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:241 xGk2cNUH6xMQ5H3GzTwuNTsVjWpSPEDSLz from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:146 xSC3yP5Nw6xWgyjTrx1BtVbgzUtzpjSxKN from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:42:42 DIG: 75a325ff28678a8c327b5f4c1f93c87a567902e6178437d7b27206fa6c98242e:157 xPDFQ4XHHp61HFiTtXeNxabQ5bbrmnNWPq from block 6584 2015-10-16 18:47:02 DIG: 20d713fa97212c3208c3a963c55d1a9f27f885993b7ea34cec67f4d686fe8c4a:303 xMK99ZpMLeFucGUsi1sCGgsXj968kLi5c9 from block 6581 2015-10-16 18:47:02 DIG: fa23adef523e68ac047f6fd7dd03030d2d50396768bf465cd68f94ae154b4818:51 x8xrx3HHVEkF8vdnHiT2irT4W1fa2YAZ7j from block 6582
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Thanks, dooglus, I was helping FreeHealthCare to deposit a paper wallet and so I pushed the tx through your page and I wanted to be able to tell him, "here ya go: TXID". I ended up finding it by using a block explorer and looking for his/her deposit address. Just that that's what prompted the question. Thanks again for the explanation. I actually went and asked about how to calculate it in the Technical Discussion board, perhaps someone there can explain why its not coming out the way you expected.
It's because you don't just sha256 it, you sha256 it twice, then reverse the result! $ clamd getrawtransaction 512f2e27b233eee9c28ac0f12a653ca1b6e1ef76b8214915d7865dda0b51dfc0 | xxd -r -p | # convert hex to binary sha256sum | # hash it xxd -r -p | # convert hex to binary sha256sum | # hash it awk '{print $1}' | # keep just the hash: 01234567 rev | # reverse it: 76543210 sed -E 's/(.)(.)/\2\1/g' # switch adjacent bytes: 67452301 512f2e27b233eee9c28ac0f12a653ca1b6e1ef76b8214915d7865dda0b51dfc0
Edit: I learned this from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Dump_format#General_note_about_hashes - and found that page by googling for 9a538906e6466ebd2617d321f71bc94e56056ce213d366773699e28158e00614, which is what Bitcoin gives when you hash a single 00 byte (which is what I got when I serialized an empty string).
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Today I used the pushtx page of just-dice to push a raw transaction, I got the message "OK", but it would be nice to have a transaction ID to go along with that. This is just my request/suggestion in regards this page: https://just-dice.com/pushtxIf there's another pushtx page elsewhere that can push txs in hex format into the clam network and which gives you back the txid, that'd be great. Oh, and I guess I can just hash my transaction to get my transaction id? Is that correct? Do I use sha256sum or something like that? I've added the txid to the output. You'll see it when I push the next update to the site. I thought you could just sha256 hash the tx to get its txid, but it doesn't work: $ clamd getrawtransaction 2b90afc1a9b8a82c187aa59dfb5ea1767bc1976fcd9696ef4dda0886ca6771d7 | xxd -r -p | sha256sum e2410f88b750f1a90c316fdcc6d1bb08e8abafd5ab9f0b34682101c662a6266f -
I don't know why. I tried reversing the bytes, but that doesn't fix it. getrawtransaction gets its hex string like this: CDataStream ssTx(SER_NETWORK, PROTOCOL_VERSION); ssTx << tx; string strHex = HexStr(ssTx.begin(), ssTx.end());
txid's are calculated like this: uint256 GetHash() const { return SerializeHash(*this); }
I would expect them to both end up using the serialization code: IMPLEMENT_SERIALIZE ( READWRITE(this->nVersion); nVersion = this->nVersion; READWRITE(nTime); READWRITE(vin); READWRITE(vout); READWRITE(nLockTime); if (this->nVersion > LEGACY_VERSION_1) { READWRITE(strCLAMSpeech); } )
but somehow they get different results. So I don't know. Edit: I didn't figure out why it doesn't work - it's presumably something to do with the different way that SER_GETHASH and SER_NETWORK serialize transactions - but I did work out an easy way of getting your txid from the hex string. Just "decoderawtransaction" on it, and look at the 2nd line: $ clamd decoderawtransaction $(clamd getrawtransaction 2b90afc1a9b8a82c187aa59dfb5ea1767bc1976fcd9696ef4dda0886ca6771d7) | head -2 { "txid": "2b90afc1a9b8a82c187aa59dfb5ea1767bc1976fcd9696ef4dda0886ca6771d7",
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]Ahh touché, forgot I wrote that. I can't remember if you own dooglus on mp or if that's an imposter, so I've credited the 0.1 btc to dooglus on bustabit. Enjoy!
I've had a run of good luck, and doubled it so far: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhMON9jB.png&t=663&c=IXGBpw4UC78Www)
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According to https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_importingPrivateKeys.html6. After the import, MultiBit then replays the block chain from the replay date to find the transactions for the new private keys. It is best just to leave MultiBit to sync the block chain on its own.
The replay date being a date you give it. I believe it would update the bloom filters and replay the blockchain from the date you gave it grabbing associated transactions. That sounds expensive in terms of node I/O. The Bitcoin node needs to rescan the whole blockchain (if the date you give it is old enough) looking for transactions relating to the address you give it. Is it possible to DoS a node in that way? It seems like you're getting the node to do a whole lot of work by sending it a very simple request.
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I was winning too much, but I was also reporting too many bugs, being too pedantic about stuff, and taking advantage of +EV offers. I was also referring friends to the site and the owner thought they weren't real people, even after having spoken to at least one of them on Skype with me.
woa how u did that?? haha care to share what happen previously? and ur stragety??? I was winning by counting cards at blackjack. I had discussed the strategy with the site owner, and he was fine with it. He even went so far as to tell me my strategy wouldn't work because I was doing it wrong. I was leaving the table whenever the count went negative rather than playing the shoe out until it went positive again. Sitting at a new table gave me a new shoe with a 0 count, which I figured had to be better than the negative shoe I was playing with, so I'd switch, and it worked.
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If you dug deep in the TOS he signed up under it could have easily been a 20% withdraw fee since that was the time of his most recent deposit. And that is EXACTLY how most other crypto related sites would have done it.
I don't know of any other site which attempts to discourage withdrawals by imposing large fees for early withdrawals. Just-Dice.com offers staking and has no withdrawal fee. You can deposit and withdraw again in the same hour and not have to pay a fee. So can you back your claim that "that is EXACTLY how most other crypto related sites would have done it" please? I suspect it's untrue.
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The site itself isn't the issue (I trust Dooglus immensely). It's CLAM.
One thing I like about JD/clam is that there's virtual zero chance, or incentive for a big-exit scam. That's in comparison to most bitcoin investment sites, were there's strong financial incentives to do it. Dooglus will probably hate me for saying this, but I see just-dice investing/clams as an epic version of bustabit. You can buy-in (polo), or claim the faucet (dig) and now the goal is to hold on (invest) while making phenomenal returns. You can cashout anytime, or risk the giant bust ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I see your point, but I'm not sure about the phenomenal returns: bustabit: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FG4vHpNW.png&t=663&c=JxGalWnGuxV-Xg) CLAM: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRMnDve6.png&t=663&c=WJf5ckxsFFACYQ)
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I was reminded that I didn't post "digging charts" recently, so here they are: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUBA2gHE.png&t=663&c=1QCkqr6pB2GQpQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTdfHNgH.png&t=663&c=M1puXLTC17ePZQ)
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Not exactly. It does include verifying transaction inclusion via merkle proofs, which is the essence of SPV but it doesn't work the exact same way as described in the white paper.
Multibit is somewhat closer, and is also open source and could be forked, but most alts seem to stick with Electrum.
In point of fact there are NO pure SPV wallets because SPV as described in the white paper also includes the network having a warning system against attacks, which doesn't exist, and the original description doesn't include any practical or privacy-preserving method for querying your transactions either.
OK, so I don't care about "pure SPV" I guess. I was hoping to avoid having to have a separate network of "Electrum servers" when we already have a network of CLAM p2p servers. How does MultiBit deal with importing private keys and rescanning? As I understand it, Bitcoin Core doesn't maintain an address index and so has to rescan the whole blockchain when you add a new private key to the wallet, which is time intensive. If MultiBit is talking to regular Core peers, how do they look up the transactions of interest given only the addresses that the MultiBit wallet controls? https://multibit.org/ says: Easy recovery from data loss You can recover your bitcoins using your wallet words if your computer is lost or stolen It appears that in the current version of MultiBit you can't import individual private keys. It only allows you to import "wallet words" for HD wallets you created in Multibit. These "wallet words" have a creation date associated with it, and so the wallet can scan the blockchain from that creation date forward. Any light CLAM wallet is going to have to let people import their old wallets and scan for distribution CLAMs.
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hello I stake 40 clam already 2 week, but have not yet received rewards, the clam client always show remaining time 8-10 day. when I will get something? thanks
There's 1 block staked per minute, and you own 40 out of 800k trying to stake. That means you should stake about once every 800k/40 = 20k minutes. 20k minutes is 333.333 hours or 13.888 days. I'm surprised your client always shows something between 8 and 10 days. Try looking every hour for 8 hours. I'm pretty sure you'll see the number go over 10 as the difficulty rises. As for when you get something, it's impossible to say. On average you'll get 1 CLAM every 2 weeks, but with high variance.
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Does Electrum even use SPV? I've read contradictory reports about that. https://electrum.org/ says "Electrum is fast, because it uses servers that index the Bitcoin blockchain" - does it require special electrum servers, or can it use regular bitcoin nodes? http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/spv.html tells me what an SPV client is, but doesn't say that Electrum is one. I guess it is, else why include that page in the documentation? Edit: if you stare at the Electrum home page hard enough you can make it show this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fp8MdpMp.png&t=663&c=diUWOM0rZi-9Aw) If you click for 'more information' you get this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FecO03Jl.png&t=663&c=zOmVwYPAC8yq2g) I'm still working on seeing if I can stare hard enough to make that one change. Edit2: This post suggests that Electrum can't connect to regular Bitcoin peers, only special "Electrum servers". This post talks about the Patricia tree data structure, which lets the Electrum servers instantly locate all the transactions involving a particular address. I wonder how pure SPV wallets do this. Maybe they don't allow the importing of old private keys, so scanning a large blockchain for relevant transactions isn't needed.
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