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2421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 29, 2016, 05:01:11 AM
Sound butthurt to me.... Gambling in chance its not ment to be a full time career. And there are people who gamble full time and that is a fact you can argue as much as you want.
Its true because we cannot be rich in gambling as we will lose in the long run. Gambling should only be considered as an entertainment and nothing less or more. We should try to find other ways if we want to earn money but not in gambling.
2422  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: May 29, 2016, 04:54:47 AM
i have just been tranfered in my company to another position and it's hard now. i may think again and hope there will be a bitcoin way for me to escape this job. feel really tired.

That is hard. It is harder to work if you do not want your job. If you can find a good paying bitcoin job, it is better you quit and focus on bitcoin. If you are good in bitcoin trading, I think income there will suffice to support your daily need. If you have luck, you can even earn more.

the path you draw has been paved with too many 'if', too dangerous. i don't dare follow it, my life has been set, i can't just completely change it, reset everything.

If you have a good paying job then you should never think of getting full time on bitcoin, and you can work on bitcoin anytime so you can manage that even with your job.

Doing a full time day job is good if you have a good salary but later if you really not into it you will become bored, as an employee you have no freedom because your time and your performance are controlled by your employer, if you maximize your performance the company will benefit and you just share a little. However, if you are good in bitcoins then you don't share your profit cause that all for you and not even taxable.

And in addition if you do bitcoins in full time, you are the boss, you will decide on how long, where and when you will work, and what work do you want to do.  Well if you are earning a really decent amount of bitcoins, that was really great IMO.
As an employee we are working hard to finance our daily expenses and we also dream to have a comfortable life in the future and not just remain and employee for the rest of our life. I can say that being an employee is secure because you will receive a fix amount of salaries and wages every month or payday schedule.

However, this is not the type of income that you wish if you want to feel a comfortable life, having a comfortable life requires a lot of money  and to have a lot of money you need to be rich and you cannot achieve it by working alone we need to get our in the rat race and have our own income by investing. Bitcoin will give us an opportunity and it depends upon us on when are we gonna grab that.

You got the point there. I totally agree that working alone can't help us have a comfortable life, unless you have very high salary I guess. As of these days, we need more than just one work to earn enough amount of money for our daily needs. Having a business beside of being an employee is a great idea and having investments in bitcoin is an option too(I hope that it's value will go higher and higher). But that's not really good idea to quit your job to focus only on bitcoin.

money is not always necesary for a comfortable life. as long as you feel comfortable, your soul is in peace, you are comfortable. sometimes pretending you are comfortable work too.
yes you are right do anything what make you feel comfortable if you feel comfortable to earn money from bitcoin, you should quit from your day job and search the best way to earn a lot bitcoin.
As long as the earning in doing full time in bitcoins surpasses the day job earning then its a good move to go full time in bitcoin and maximize your bitcoin income. At least you will feel the freedom you are looking for.
2423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 29, 2016, 04:28:58 AM
If you will gamble, think first of what you can lose rather than what you can win. Tell yourself that gambling will never make you rich unless your very very lucky. If you say that you won't get greedy this time you can't stop yourself from being greedy if you start to win some big amounts and telling yourself "I will win again." until you lose already what you won.
Indeed, because in gambling the chances of losing is bigger than your chances of winning that is why it is not advisable to play gambling all the time as you will end up losing big. Its better to treat gambling as an entertainment all the time so even if you lose you will not chase your lose.
2424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 28, 2016, 03:01:59 AM
Finally the cleveland cavaliers is already in the NBA finals. Thank for the big three who showed up big again, we are now waiting already for the west either warriors or thunder.

Final score is    113 : 87    - Cleveland Cavaliers winner.
2425  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: May 28, 2016, 02:59:29 AM
we bought bitcoin in the past, and we still have the bitcoin today and just waiting for a very good price before selling it, our plan is to sell it after halving . we are expecting that halving will give us big profit we can get from our investment Smiley
Yeah! me too, I am expecting big after the halving. As of now, I have already save some coins waiting to profit after the halving. We will surely profit from this as the opportunity only comes once and we have to grab that now.
2426  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: May 28, 2016, 02:54:55 AM
you need only 1BTC  Cheesy
and you need bitcoin reach price $10M
That's true, no. of bitcoins would not really matter at all. What is more important is the value of bitcoins that time you want to retire. If 1 BTC is equivalent to $1,000,000 then that would be so good also. Having million worth of dollars is already a good retirement.
2427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: May 28, 2016, 02:49:31 AM
Everybody want to find the way to make guaranteed profit with gambling but the house edge is more smarter than us, nothing safe with gambling because it have so high risk and i am not sure there is any way to make good profit all time by betting.

House is the only safe in gambling and always remember guys that there is no really safe way or method in gambling. Only the house or owner
of the gambling site is safe and secured with your money that you play to their site.
If you are right, then gambling against other players or against a sport person or team would be the safest way to gamble. We can confirm this, martingale strategy is perfectly working in real life or good enough mathematically but never against a gambling site.

Well I forgot about that, thanks for adding it dude. Well let's say sportsbetting is a safe way if you a good sports analyst and you know the capacity
of the team that you are going to put your bet. So, it is better to gamble that way rather than not even using bare mind on it.

Well probably this will make many gamblers jealous of what lot of information you have in every team or any kind of player there is because you can bet in any game there is with the knowledge in analyzing people you can surely rock sports betting with that!
In sports betting if you are good in analyzing the game you will have a chance to win in gambling. But you also need to consider the basic things to do before you can achieve that. You need to have a good amount of bankroll, discipline in betting (use flat betting), and bet only 2% per bet and don't chase bets as it is a recipe for disaster.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 28, 2016, 02:39:35 AM
If you cry, or you know you will cry if you lose, that means you are risking too much. You cannot afford to make actions based off emotions.

I cried when I coin flipped my Mininal Wear Dragon Lore.

This is true, why would you cry if you can afford your bets. Before entering to gambling you are expected to have already understood the risk it brings, so you must take full responsibility of your decision and be a man. Don't cry in gambling as it is fun here.
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 28, 2016, 02:37:05 AM
Everyone losses in the long run because we cannot sustain winning against the house due to house advantage, if one is planning to win in gambling in the long run choose a better type of gambling where you can have a slight advantage to win, do sports betting as it is more legit way to win.

Yeah, understanding the gambling type your playing will give you big help to prevent loosing big amount. Still it's gambling there's always risk of loosing even in sports betting. We don't really know what will gonna happen. One should know this before trying to gamble, there's no assurance on winning. Gamble only on what you can afford to lose.

I agree, the best thing to do is only gamble what you can afford to lose, if you can follow that golden rule then you are good to go. We know that chances of losing in the long run is high but we can minimize that by betting only small amount and enjoy big.
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 28, 2016, 02:34:54 AM
To play gambling in smart way you need to follow the rules, you need to gamble for fun and treat gambling as an entertainment. However, if you want to earn in gambling its hard but I have a good tips.

Need for you to have a good amount of bankroll, bet only 1% per bet all the time and don't chase, do flat betting and do it in sports. If you can do it with discipline then you are good to go.
2431  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to go to US$800+ on: May 28, 2016, 02:28:36 AM
Bitcoin is not going to be that high and that is because you know that the price of the Bitcoin was already stable for a long time and it needs to recover also so it needs time.
But there is maybe a possibility that it will reach the $800 after some 5 years so that is a long way to go.

800 in 5 years? Oh you poor, simple beings. After these years you still have no idea what you are facing here. But that is the way it has to be. Good luck selling at 490 where you probably see the top for this year.



Bitcoin will go $800 this year, there is a possibility because halving is going to happen this year. You might say I over projected it but more me its realistic so that's it.
2432  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: May 28, 2016, 02:23:52 AM
It is already an international currency. People are using it instead of boring bank transfers to get their money across the globe.

Bitcoin is designed to be an international currency and it has all the criteria to be an international currency. I can't see why it won't be.

Yes, it is, but only some people know bitcoin and use bitcoin. So it's become useless if bitcoin become an international currency but only some people use bitcoin,.

Actually it had already become an international currency within the bitcoin community, with bitcoin, it unite different countries to use it. Even though there are only few users of bitcoin now but it has a good signal that it will increase in the future. As long as bitcoin perform to be worthy it will gain the trust of the majority in the future.
Yes, bitcoin is an international currency, if we see mostly online currencies are here, but people refer to use the bitcoin always, and in future the number of people will be increased and that all make bitcoin more popular. Mostly it is useful for big investors in future, because it is easy and fast currency and the way of earning it is also easy everyone can earn it easily.
Bitcoin is already used all over the world and that is so nice to see Bitcoin growing because we all hope of course that Bitcoin will be the future payment method.
But it is not now that many people that is using Bitcoin so that have to change and promote it more and that can be perfect.
I agree, bitcoins will be more popular in the coming years as we already have educated the world about bitcoins, everyday there are some adoption that is happening and its good for the future. This will be use as an international currency.
2433  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: May 28, 2016, 02:22:14 AM

I wanted to try BTCJam too, i just fear that they go away with what you invested :/

beware most people in btcjam using false identities and go after them to get loans.  they will seek trust + first to gain confidence after that they will go and scammed  you
yups always look their trust rating if you want to lend
I think the trust could be misused dude I had several times lent bitcoin to users who have high trust and they cheat me go with my bitcoin and did not return there are people who deliberately cultivate trust them so many other users who believe later when a certain time. He will lend larger bitcoin then go out
In my own opinion, lending business is not viable in bitcoins as it is anonymous and we can expect there are a lot of scammers in the community, if you are just lending with a little interest then the risk is higher, you better invest in bitcoins and hold, safer than lending.
Therefore collateral should be more valuable of money on loan.
If he doesn’t pay back it means you can sell the collateral and get a bit of investment loans it
for the current situation maybe when you hold something as collateral is safe but i think the problem will come when the price of bitcoin down much, guarantee will not be able to cover your losses.
I think we need to invest in bitcoins now at its current price, we do not need to wait for the price to be down again as it will steadily increase in the coming days. Due to the halving effect, we will have a profit after the halving if we buy now with its current price.
2434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 28, 2016, 02:18:46 AM
Is this the official wallet which we can use to transfer Waves when it launches on June 1st?

https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI/archive/master.zip


I think so, I hope there plans will happen accordingly base on the stated dates so as not to disappoint investors and users of waves. I know in the coming days there are a lot of good news that will come to make our confidence go high with this project.
2435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: May 28, 2016, 02:16:39 AM
The earnings from gambling can be unlimited but it depends on how much luck you have if you have enough luck you can become rich.
The same rule is also that you can become poor of it of course.

that is true. it can be unlimited but also it can be impossible to hit those numbers and win that big amounts.

i mean there is always the very faint possibility of winning the jackpot but nobody wins it.
Yes, the virtual reality of gambling is the magic to all the gamblers. I am not ready to believe that I am not able to make any profits from gambling but also I believe gambling is not for profit making. Yes, we can make thousands of bitcoin from gambling, but we are loosing some bitcoins in gambling time to time.....

Gambling can win or lose. So you cannot rely on it as a steady source of income. But you can earn a lot sometimes and that will be beneficial if you have a huge need of money. But, it is not guaranteed. So, if you want to a guaranteed source of income, better work and don't gamble. But if you nust want a chance to tripple or quadriple your money, then gamble. Just don't whine when you lose all your money.
Gambling is just for fun but if you are lucky enough you can win as much as possible. You can millions or even billions and that all depends or your luck. Keep pushing your luck as luck only comes once.
2436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Scam,prettiest lie ever told.... on: May 28, 2016, 02:09:45 AM
Well ethereum already dump and it will dump more sooner.. and i think its already mention here in our this section that ethereum is a scam coin.. and they are experiment the price of the market the control it and promoting many times in all methods of promoting..

It's certainly going to go a bit lower, but I don't think the ethereum concept is a scam.. just the way the coin has been governed up to this point (ico, the price pumps). They had something pure that they tainted a bit with the cash grab. They should have limited valuation, restricted the shares in a way.
For me they are not scam but they are overprice right now in my opinion. We can see that the price is going down and I think it will settle to 5$ at the end of the month or early next month.
2437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 28, 2016, 02:08:08 AM
Cavaliers in leading the halftime    55 : 41   , they will probably end this series tonight. Like what I have predicted its going to be a blowout win for the cavaliers.

Yes, i think you are right. Raptors need to score many points on second half if they want survive, but i think it's hard and Cavaliers will qualify to the final.
Raptors will not anymore score because the cavaliers will win this game today, the points spread for the cavaliers will cover and so as the total score under.
2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 28, 2016, 02:07:00 AM
If I was rich I would gamble without any doubts because gambling is fun and I do not think it can hurt you to be honest.
I even think there is nothing wrong with it if you do it on a nice and right way.
Lol be careful with gambling. even people who are already rich can rudak life and turn into poor? you do not get too underestimate gambling. if you're too greedy. maybe you can be poor in just 1 day or less

Gambling for fun is means he don't care for the money that he lose, because he already rich and have much money. So, i think he will gambling for fun even he lose or win.
Absolutely, if I will become rich I want to have fun all the time and since gambling is fun I would still do it. I am a responsible gambler and I know how to handle my finances so I would not be addicted.
2439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: May 28, 2016, 02:05:44 AM
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The people who are not trading their DAO tokens.
I have 10 DAO tokens, purchased on Poloniex.
I have no fucking idea where to trade them!

 Cheesy

My head just exploded from your overwhelming amount of DAO tokens.  Grin
wanna hear the worst part?
Poloniex  sez they'll start trading DAO on 5/28. I asked on Poloniex's trollbox if I'd see my 10 DAO's available.
Keeping in mind the entire trollbox is scum, they said no.
Gee, did my 10 DAO's fall into another goddamn dimension? Angry

That amount could definitely be worth $5 in a couple of years!
ETH price now is slowly going down, I think it all started when the lisk launched got a problem. I don't know really what is the connection but that was base on my observation in yobit.
2440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: May 28, 2016, 02:01:48 AM
Thanks to the great minds who visioned our future technology.  (The theoretical physicist of today)  Because of them we have a technology of cashless purchasing, to put bets online while traveling or at home or even fishing in the middle of a lake.  And that's explosive especially using btc.

Well with great minds surely is a best thing and it is worst it if they share it to the world what I like about this technology is the fast transaction and security of this called bitcoin and I truly enjoy how convenient it is in the lives of many people!
You see indeed that Bitcoin is working well with Bitcoin and that is so nice to see because we can now spend Bitcoin also more and more which that is perfect.
Because online gambling is becoming more popular you see that people are using Bitcoin as their payment method.
You mean gambling is working well with bitcoin, they go hand in hand and they will succeed together, to be honest without the gambling industry adopting bitcoin, it will not succeed right now.


you are indeed correct gambling is working well with bitcoin , many users are using bitcoin because they can  gamble anytime, anywhere they want to , 
Bitcoins makes our gambling life easy but the negative effect due to we can easily gamble we are very prone to losing all our money when we are addicted with it.
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