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2481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make merchants aware of Bitcoins advantages? on: March 23, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
At eveonline.com they already seem to be using something a bit fringe: http://www.wmtransfer.com/eng/about/

What the hell is that?
2482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make merchants aware of Bitcoins advantages? on: March 23, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
I just sent another one a bit revised to eveonline.com:

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Hello,

I don't know if you're up to date on developments on online payment processors but if you aren't I'd like to give you a heads-up about something relatively new you might want to look into.

When I shop online I really hate outrages fees, I hate giving out personal information for fear of ID theft and I hate almost dictatorial control over my money via charge backs or account freezing.

So I got rid of all those problems by using Bitcoin. It's a new thing that was recently invented. It's kind of like a digital commodity currency people trade online but the cool thing about it it isn't owned by anyone. It's one of those open source projects, where a bunch of programmers developed it completely openly for everyone to see how it works but because of it's ingenious design it's still very secure and very private to use.

It's protected by military grade encryption and relying on the laws of math practically impossible to counterfeit. There are no bank accounts, no giving out info if you don't want, no company imposing their will on your transactions, and no charge backs possible. It's much like cash on the street but on the internet and completely legal too.

I know this ticket sounds highly spam-worthy but people actually use this method and value bitcoins at about $5 a pop right now.. and I really wanted to share this with you.

Today there are several online exchanges where one can buy them and it's pretty easy to get or sell some.

Here are a few links if you'd like to find out more:

www.weusecoins.com - independent introduction site
www.bitcoin.org - official site
en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page - official wiki page
www.mtgox.com - independent online exchange
www.cryptoxchange.com - independent online exchange
www.intersango.com - independent online exchange
www.bitinstant.com - independent instant fund transfers
www.bit-pay.com - independent payment processing


I'm not part of the project nor am I an expert in how it works, I'm just an enthusiast who follows it regularly but I would be more than happy to help you find answers to any questions you may have.
2483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make merchants aware of Bitcoins advantages? on: March 23, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Using phrases like dictatorial control is just gonna turn most people off, and they'll just think of you as "that guy".

I said "almost dictatorial control" which is a big difference. I'm exaggerating, sure, but I didn't go overboard by saying something crazy like "I hate those fascistic vampire dictatorial banks". So if they share the sentiment at all with me I think my message should hit home pretty good.
2484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make merchants aware of Bitcoins advantages? on: March 23, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
There may be other low value item retail merchants that sell online and could benefit, like seed sellers or small parts suppliers.

Yes there are. F2P games relying on microtransactions. Why? Because the game designers are IT literate and more importantly their customers are fairly IT literate.


I recently contacted http://worldoftanks.eu/:

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Posted on: 13 March 2012 01:59 PM
Hello,

I don't know if you're up to date on developments on online payment processors but if you aren't I'd like to give you a heads-up about something relatively new you might want to look into.

If you, like me, really hate outrages fees, you or your clients hate giving out personal information for fear of ID theft and you hate their almost dictatorial control over your funds via charge backs or account freezing this is really going to interest you.

Personally I got rid of all those problems by using Bitcoin. It's a new thing that was recently invented. It's kind of like a digital commodity currency people trade online but the cool thing about it it isn't owned by anyone. It's one of those open source projects, where a bunch of programmers developed it completely openly for everyone to see how it works but because of it's ingenious design it's still very secure and very private to use.

It's protected by military grade encryption and practically impossible to counterfeit. There are no bank accounts, no giving out info if you don't want, no company imposing their will on your transactions, and no charge backs possible. It's much like cash on the street but on the internet.

I know this sounds highly spam-worthy but people actually use this and value bitcoins at about $5 a pop right now.. There are several online exchanges where one can buy them and it's pretty easy to get or sell some.

Here are a few links if you'd like to find out more:

www.weusecoins.com
www.bitcoin.org
www.mtgox.com - online exchange
www.cryptoxchange.com - online exchange
www.intersango.com - online exchange
www.bit-pay.com - payment processing

I'm not an expert, just an enthusiast but I would be more than happy to help you find answers to any questions you have.

And got only this as a reply:

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Posted on: 14 March 2012 11:52 AM
Dear Player,

thank you for the information. We'll pass it to our leads.

Best regards,
Michael Swan

World of Tanks Support Service
http://support.worldoftanks.eu
2485  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Correct way to create world government on: March 22, 2012, 01:37:31 AM
Vote? Nice joke.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHToX01ITno
2486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP: ?? Gradual Changing Block Rewards on: March 21, 2012, 04:50:25 AM
It wouldn't be right to change any aspect of the subsidy rules in Bitcoin. These rules are a "contract" that all Bitcoin users have agreed to.

Quote from: Satoshi
The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the core design was set in stone for the rest of its lifetime.

It's technically very difficult, anyway. You don't need just 51% of miners: you'd need essentially 99% of all users.

This post right here just ended this thread and gged this BIP idea.
2487  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 04:12:49 AM
And the reason why I think you're basically trolling is because the why question is as almost impossible to currently answer as the question of why we exist at all, or why anything exists at all. No amount of mental exercises are going to answer that. Also I think you're stuck on the feature and trying to explain it without looking under it's hood but rather thinking about what it can do which is just completely pointless. Kind of like trying to explain a car without looking at it's engine but rather looking at how fast it can go.
2488  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 04:02:40 AM
Heck if I know. But I think we as a species are on a good track to figure it out eventually. That TED talk at least is a good indication of that. I bet we're going to have a lot more answers to this question if we ever build an AI on the model of our nervous system.
2489  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 03:42:03 AM
I asked you this like 2 or 3 pages ago and I'll ask you again. Can you show me any other mechanism of the various mechanisms you just listed that is as complex and as capable as we and animals are?

So complexity creates qualia? Why?

The question you should be asking is how, not why. You can't find the right answer if you're asking the wrong question.
2490  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 03:30:04 AM
I asked you this like 2 or 3 pages ago and I'll ask you again. Can you show me any other mechanism of the various mechanisms you just listed that is as complex and as capable as we and animals are?
2491  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 03:17:00 AM
You just described a mechanism.

Guess what, that's what we are. Nothing more, nothing magical about it, nothing special, just a biological mechanism and what we have and call consciousness is one of it's features. Actually it's the feature that most likely played a major rule in this mechanism surviving natural selection. And yes, I do not believe such a thing as free will exists.
2492  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 03:02:56 AM
In the video that hazek posted they mentioned the part of the brain that seems to control our sense of self, and that if damaged we lose that subjective perspective and without it we have no way to judge or sense incoming stimuli (much like trying to gauge the speed of something in a vaccuum with nothing around it to make a comparative analysis?).  At least that was how I interpreted the way he explained it. 

Would this mean then, that these sense of self damaged (coma) people could "hear" or "see" but that what they lack is qualia? 

That's exactly what I believe is reasonable to think is actually happening. And thank you for bringing that up since FirstAscent seems to have ignored it.

Our consciousness to me is nothing more than a clever way of streamlining the important data our brain receives that need immediate attention such as muscle movement and dealing with our 5 senses. I bet we will never have an artificial consciousnesses unless it's modeled after our nervous system. And when we get there the first conscious AI might be of the primitive kind like the one it is theorized the animals have.

Above all else I don't think it's anything special but cleverly put together chemicals operating under the rules of physics. Btw BBC Horizon just put out another highly interesting 60min documentary titled "Out of control" and talking about how much of what our brain and as a effect we do is conscious and and how much unconscious. I highly recommend it.
2493  Other / Off-topic / Re: Consciousness on: March 21, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
Isn't that circular? Can an entity sense something without experiencing it, or experience something without deriving a sensation from it?

Of course it is but if I were you I wouldn't waste too much time with this "genius" arguing about it..  Roll Eyes
2494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP: ?? Gradual Changing Block Rewards on: March 20, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
People don't realize this, but a lot of what looks like a huge bug in Bitcoin is actually an ingenious design.
2495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP: ?? Gradual Changing Block Rewards on: March 20, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
The reward decreases get exponentially smaller anyway, why change it only after the first and largest one?

2496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we get Bitcoin awareness to Baby Boomers? on: March 20, 2012, 09:02:22 PM
For example a viral video about this site if we could convince them to switch to Bitcoin: http://www.kiva.org/about  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpSNM625LFU

EDIT: Hmmm maybe not, this is in their FAQ(http://na3.salesforce.com/sol/public/solutionbrowser.jsp?cid=02n50000000DWzh&orgId=00D500000006svl):

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When I pay through PayPal, is PayPal taking a fee?

Kiva is the first organization that PayPal has supported by providing free payment processing. This support saves Kiva up to one million dollars each year, which helps us to keep our operational expenses low and send 100% of your loan contributions to the field.

Lenders outside the United States may be charged a fee to convert their local currency into U.S. dollars, Kiva's working currency.
2497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we get Bitcoin awareness to Baby Boomers? on: March 20, 2012, 08:59:08 PM
I think we could use a viral marketing scheme in which a vital part would be sending a few bitcoins to some good cause sort of like a Bitcoin Kony type of a rallying call for young people on youtube or something. Right now we're a perceived as this fringe bunch doing something weird most people don't even know how to begin to wrap their heads around. But if suddenly none of that mattered and it only mattered that they needed an account on an exchange and buy say 0.5BTC to send to some viral video or something it could really take a hold, especially if it was more like a trend instead of useful tool..
2498  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: March 20, 2012, 08:27:28 PM
You know what graph would also really rock? If you could make a progress bar graph out of this picture:



Have two colors for the the graph line, one in bold one for the already issued, and one for the remaining bitcoins. And the x axis with time could also be in two parts, one read from the blockchain real data and the other in another color for the theoretical not issued yet part.
2499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we get Bitcoin awareness to Baby Boomers? on: March 20, 2012, 08:19:43 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome to have a round table discussion with all teens or people in their very early twenties brainstorming to the nth degree after being presented Bitcoin for the very first time at the onset of the dialog?

What would it take to make this event happen? Also, would need to be recorded for prosperity.

~Bruno~


Like a focus group?
2500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we get Bitcoin awareness to Baby Boomers? on: March 20, 2012, 05:04:51 PM
Why won't Bitcoin go viral as well?

It's not as easy and safe to use just yet.
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