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2501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
[01:03] <GNULinuxGuy> curious: new issue that doesn't seem to be as serious, but still no official word
[01:07] <evan82> GNULinuxGuy, working on it
[01:07] <evan82> GNULinuxGuy, doing research atm
2502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
Price doesn't give a fuck... rebounded to June 19 levels... troll army has gone full retard.
2503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:37:40 PM
peurile nonsense

chaeplin proved XC mixing wasn't anonymous and your coins can get stolen by anyone with a modified wallet, now fuck off back to your shitcoin, the grownups are talking here.

Ignore list growing mightily today. Wink

Chaeplin showed that the transactions wern't trustless. This will be sorted in the next release. DRK also has a similar issue with stealing coins that was supposed to be fixed in RC3 with the hot/cold issue but that doesn't look like it going to be happening as you keep forking. It's the same reason you have a limit on transactions.

The hot/cold issue is for the 1000 DRKs of the masternode, not the coins of the transactions. These are conducted in a trustless manner (signatures instead of coin forwarding).

The limit on transactions is due to the denomination pool of 10 DRKs (similar sized inputs).

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Get your facts straight.

An advice you might want to follow yourself.
2504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:12:52 PM
BUMP

Everyone update

Update: Reverting Masternode Payments and New Binaries

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

2505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
If anyone has any evidence to suggest that the network was "forked" at any point, please share - I have reviewed IRC transcripts and have read every post, and was monitoring the pools throughout the hardfork implementation and there was never any evidence that I am aware of to suggest that the network had actually forked. Hopefully Evan will re-release the same code and we can try to fork RC3 in a couple days.

I was going through the two block explorers and I think it was a ...97 block which I saw on chainz and the official block explorer. They had different values for the same block.

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What does "no masternode payment yet" mean?

- masternode payments don't work?
- masternode payments not activated?
- masternode payments working/in progress but still need time for first MN payment to go through? (if this: Why?)

It means that they are disabled for the time being after issues or "issues" - depending one's analysis - on the latest fork.
2506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Many people asked repeated for his confirmation that everyone had updated the software pre fork. He ignored the warning just as he did last fork.

Everyone "important" like pools, exchanges, service providers etc use a mailing list through which they receive notice of updates.
2507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
This is disgusting, 3 fucking lines of code would fix this whole problem by banning MN when they fail a version check
I can't believe how bad the dev team handled this

That's too simplistic. If a MN's wallet is hacked to show correct version number maliciously so as to be accepted, what then? You need checks all the way.

2508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
BUMP

Everyone update

Update: Reverting Masternode Payments and New Binaries

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

2509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
No dude. Your the one making a fool out of yourself. Rev 2 was given a timeline for the first week in July.

You mean updated timeline.

Back in mid to late May, the full-blown implementation was supposed to take place 3-4 weeks later.

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Please explain how these will be trusted transactions? Owww wait. You can't.

Yes I can't tell you about future stuff. I can only discuss what you have now.

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And also, I'm not telling you XC will be superior. I'm telling you XC is superior now. Even Chaplin admitted that DRK won't even be close to XCs level of anonymity until RC4. XC has a 1BTC bounty for finding a link, nobody has broken it yet,

Ok sell your house and buy XC if you believe in it so much. Why come here and tell us how DRK sucks and why XC is so superior - when it's vapor? You (XC) wouldn't even be here without DRK. XC and a plethora of anoncoins and scamcoins just tried to pull the same pattern as with all other coins.

Dogecoin => let's make some memecoins or animalcoins
Aurora => let's make some countrycoins
Blackcoin => let's make PoW/PoS coins or colorcoins
Darkcoin => let's make anonymous coins (and since we can't do that, let's do hacks with the wallets, setup central mixers or write "whitepapers")

It's always the same for people who lost the train of the first one and want to catch (or create) a train that they can ride on, while crapping on the market leader.
2510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
Judging by the fact XC is up 10% since DRK forked looks like a few of the fanclub are realising... XC is a superior coin with a much superior dev.

So when your coin was going down as Cryptcoin was going up, and you were panicking about what was going on with Crypt and why were people buying it instead of "superior XC" what did that mean for XC? That Mindfox is better and "superior" to Dan?

These superiority stuff is bullshit.

Satoshi = brilliant guy that invented TRUSTLESS transactions which solved a decades old problem, not through a "trust learning algo" but through proof of work. Nobody disputes this.

XC = a coin that is "superior" because it goes back to trusted transactions, taking people back to the original problem that should have already been solved.

Apparently XC's dev should have also written a paper on why Satoshi is a fool and why we should all have trusted transactions instead of trustless. He is after all the superior dev of all altcoins.

You obviously don't keep up with the times. XC will be trustless with multi-sig in Rev 2.

Any other arguments?

You said you have the superior coin, when it used TRUSTED transactions. I don't need to make any other argument, you just made a fool of yourself.

All this superiority talk I hear from day one.

Dan makes a centralized mixer "wowwwwwwwwww we did more than DRK did in months"... just for making a centralized mixer, lol.

Then he makes the "decentralized" trusted mixers that lost coins and you are like "WOOOOWWWWW FIRST WORKING ANON", lol.

Now you are telling me, ok I'm not really superior, but one day I will be.

It's june 20th 2014. I've heard about the NSA-proof Rev 2.0 for over a month when it was supposed to be delivered in 2-3 weeks.

=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6932856#msg6932856

...and we haven't even solved the issue of trusted transactions.

So, instead of being here and being happy for the problems of others, go back and solve your own problems. It's more productive.
2511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 07:42:51 PM
BUMP

Everyone update

Update: Reverting Masternode Payments and New Binaries

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

2512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
Judging by the fact XC is up 10% since DRK forked looks like a few of the fanclub are realising... XC is a superior coin with a much superior dev.

So when your coin was going down as Cryptcoin was going up, and you were panicking about what was going on with Crypt and why were people buying it instead of "superior XC" what did that mean for XC? That Mindfox is better and "superior" to Dan?

These superiority stuff is bullshit.

Satoshi = brilliant guy that invented TRUSTLESS transactions which solved a decades old problem, not through a "trust learning algo" but through proof of work. Nobody disputes this.

XC = a coin that is "superior" because it goes back to trusted transactions, taking people back to the original problem that should have already been solved.

Apparently XC's dev should have also written a paper on why Satoshi is a fool and why we should all have trusted transactions instead of trustless. He is after all the superior dev of all altcoins.
2513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 07:17:07 PM
Did something bad just happen? The plan update didn't go well?

Price of darkcoin crashed from around 12.4 USD to 8.5 USD on bitfinex just now.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

Everyone update to .2 wallet
2514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
There's even another currency out there with working node payments and they haven't even been around for a third of the time DRK has.

Are you referring to transaction fees or "fees" through trusted payments that go through coin-forwarding techniques?
2515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:49:05 PM
I suggested a merge mined private clone of Darkcoin for testing purposes only, no value, no exchanges, etc., before commit to Darkcoin.

Response...that is what testnet is for.

That is actually a very good idea... but people are not gonna mine the coin if it has no value at all.

To be a perfect testing ground it SHOULD have value, and be on exchanges etc...

Vertcoin did it and it works ok... I think the testcoin is also traded on poloniex. It is a testbed for stealth addresses.
2516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
[21:18] <evan82> all binaries are up to date
[21:18] <evan82> sending out an email now
2517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:17:52 PM
[21:07] <moarrr_darkcoin> ok im on latest block
[21:07] <moarrr_darkcoin> InternetApe: will there be a comment on this issue? It seemed everything was going fine
[21:07] <aaxx1503> still no link for the windows wallet
[21:07] <aaxx1503> would someone be so kind
[21:07] <moarrr_darkcoin> aaxx1503, its on darkcoin.io
[21:07] <moarrr_darkcoin> i just downloaded it
[21:07] <aaxx1503> ah
[21:07] <aaxx1503> tahnks
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[21:09] <jimbit> is the new MN version binary avail now?
[21:10] <enzo86> jimbit no real reason to even start the MN righ now
[21:10] <enzo86> unless to move coins Smiley
[21:10] <jimbit> roger that
[21:11] <yidakee> Sorry for the nervous breakdown, but I have 1 node on my money, and 2 nodes from family
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[21:12] <jimbit> yidakee, i hear ya..
[21:12] <jimbit> bought a couple hundred drk on the dip Smiley
[21:14] <stu_> it's just software, Evan will fix it Wink
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[21:15] <linedash> InternetApe / evan82 - earlier proper public announcement of what happened would be *GREATLY* appreciated by the community though.  The last panic could have been largley contained with proper information given to the community through proper channels
[21:16] <moarrr_darkcoin> evan82: is the new client final now? when will you tell exchanges that they can resume operation?
[21:16] <moarrr_darkcoin> i really wanna get my drk out of mintpal
[21:16] <linedash> pol is already unfrozen, moarrr
[21:16] <InternetApe> Yes, we will be putting out a memo as to what has happened once we get everything stable again.
2518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:08:51 PM
BUMP: Everyone update.

FYI - this was just sent out to the mailing list.  More information to follow.


Evan Duffield
10:43 AM (7 minutes ago)

to bcc: me
The Darkcoin network has been experiencing some issues with
intermittent blockchain forks. These forks are not as serious as the
last update, being they appear to fix themselves after 15-30 minutes.
However, we must revert to no masternode payments until we're sure
we've discovered the problem.

Please recompile if you're running a daemon, otherwise binaries will
be made available soon.

https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin

Thanks,

The Darkcoin Team
2519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
[20:56] <Propulsion> ok reverting the mpos pool now.
[20:56] <linedash> wrong version showing on website
[20:56] <linedash> for new win binary
[20:57] <InternetApe> just fixed it
[20:57] <linedash> ta
[20:57] <InternetApe> Hm.
[20:57] <InternetApe> it didnt update
[20:57] <InternetApe> was cached
[20:57] <linedash> ahh
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[20:58] <aaxx1503> the new windows binary is up ?
[20:58] <moarrr_darkcoin> whos on 10.10.2, is it working?
[20:59] <aaxx1503> im stuck on 88816 on 10.10.1
[20:59] <aaxx1503> so looking for the new windows binary
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[20:59] <aaxx1503> masternodes also stuck on 88816
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[20:59] <ALDRED> window binary 10.10.2, block 88836 up to date here
[20:59] <aaxx1503> but there is still mining difficulty
[20:59] <aaxx1503> link?
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[21:00] <linedash> aaxx1503: suchpool is sorted and we have miners working away
[21:00] <weirdgod> on windows.2 binary...
[21:00] <qqr> is the linux binary 10.2 already?
[21:01] <linedash> net hashrate at 90gh/s, so mining is fine
[21:01] <Light_> OSX wallet got stuck at 500 while reindexing. What should i do?
[21:01] <fernando2> InternetApe I have a couple of MN in what I guess are wrong forks (88805 and 88816). Is it useful if I leave them working so you can study them later (last time you asked for forked daemons if I remember correct)
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[21:02] <InternetApe> fernando2, if you could zip up the directory, WITHOUT the wallet, and send them to us that would be great.
[21:02] <fernando2> sure
[21:03] <linedash> what email, InternetApe ?
[21:03] <linedash> I'll send mine too
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[21:03] <InternetApe> send them to kyle@darkcoin.io and evan@darkcoin.io
[21:03] <InternetApe> thanks
[21:03] <elberethzone> InternetApe> I have also such nodes if needed
[21:03] <InternetApe> The more the better
[21:04] <InternetApe> ANYONE, especially pools and mn's would be helpful.
[21:04] <linedash> I've asked scriptiee to send our MN one when he gets back
[21:04] <linedash> don't know if it's on the wrong fork or not, I've no access to it from ehre
[21:05] <elberethzone> will send all my MNs nodes folders
[21:05] <moarrr_darkcoin> what block# are we on?
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[21:05] <weirdgod> 88837 on windows.2 wallet.
[21:05] <ALDRED> 101001 at 88817 and 101002 at 88837
[21:05] <enzo86> InternetApe sent
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2520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 06:02:27 PM
Just to confirm - As there is this fork, if I buy coins on mintpal, I won't lose it as I don't move the coins in the presence of a fork right ?

Buy them, just don't move them yet until the situation is cleared out.
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