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2501  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Supernode System on: June 14, 2013, 05:44:04 PM

Note carefully. You need to post a Bitcoin Supernode Network game fee, which goes up with the rank (0.5% of the noted wealth):

Duke: 50,000mBTC
Prince: 15,000mBTC
Marquis: 5,000mBTC
Earl: 1,500mBTC
Viscount: 600mBTC
Freeman: 300mBTC.

The price includes entrance to Internet resources, plastic name tag/(ID card) and printed promotion materials incl posters, T-shirt, millibitcoin notes.The plastic materials are actually quite nice. In a separate thread I will start asking for admissions. (Until now, this is all in planning stage.)


Do you think that the Supernodes who pay their game fee to join the network should also have a limited number of invitations(amount based on rank) so that they can expand the network to people they deem worthy of joining? Like, say for example a level 21 Earl has someone that works for them and they want to have them join the network, they can burn one of their invites and have the fee waived and the person included in the network(the fees can possibly be included in the Supernodes' fee to offset the cost. I would view this more of a promotional concept and also one where the Supernodes have the ability to single out individuals who they think would bring value to the network and include them.
2502  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Supernode System on: June 14, 2013, 05:26:39 PM
rpietlia, do you consider the noble titles a necessary part of the Supernode concept, or merely a fun addition to the core concept? Is the fundamental structure of the Bitcoin Capability Classification the segmentation of nodes by number and node title? i.e. level 25 Supernode, level 15 Hypernode etcetera.

If the push for widespread adoption of the concept focuses on the overall idea without drawing too much attention to the nobility concept(even though you make some valid points regarding the inevitability of these stratifications in human society), it might help prevent distractions. I think too many people will just latch on to the nobility issue and focus on only that, causing unnecessary distraction from the important concepts that should be addressed.
2503  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Bitcoin Dealer Network Association (BDNA) on: June 14, 2013, 04:35:18 PM
edit: Redacted a post better suited for PM, apologies.
2504  Other / Off-topic / Re: Zhoutong' back on: June 14, 2013, 11:34:15 AM
Zhou's back in bitcoin and better than ever.

Can't holdem down for long.
2505  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mark Karpeles and MTGox: Why are they refusing to help Bitcoinica victims?? on: June 13, 2013, 09:30:32 PM
Because Mark Karpeles is an idiot and an asshole?
2506  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should I buy a Xbox One or PS4? on: June 13, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
I've never been one to blindly be a fanboy of any gaming company. I haven't even played a console in years. But just reading the recent news, I can't even imagine what argument someone would come up with for wanting to buy an Xbone over the PS4.
2507  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Supernode System on: June 13, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
With the power vested in me as Earl of Supernode, I, Gman, first of his name, hereby grant Este Nuno the title of Freeman 5th class, with all rights and titles pertaining.  May you retain this title with honor and dignity. 

https://blockchain.info/tx/df49a3399215b0ad4751cd3bdaba391e880665a83405cd4998f050288cc01839


Haha, Thank you.

As rpietila said in the op: "These guys (above) hold more bitcoins than an average person in the world. More than 99% of the coins will be held by them, so the inequality of distribution of liquid wealth will increase, should minicoin reach $300 quickly."

I'm now the 1%.
2508  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Supernode System on: June 13, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
You can easily find work in this forum if you can code. If there are any supernodes or mininodes in your locality doing anything, you can find they pay several mBTC per hour. It is the whole point of the exercise that people should become independent of their current masters (PTB) and become Freemen instead. It does not require so many mBTC when one mBTC equals a room for month in an inn.

I can code a little. But I'm not personally willing to offer those services on a professional basis yet. I believe that someone should be able to back what they do 100% and be proud of putting their name on something if they are going to do it.

I think it's quite possible that if this concept gains hold in the bitcoin community that it could create a lot of opportunities for a wide variety of people to work and provide services for the network.

I figure I could obtain Mininode-Baron rank in the very near future if I focus on earning bitcoins and converting all fiat earned in to bitcoin. The levels are very reasonable. And becoming a Supernode should be an easy next step.
2509  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Supernode System on: June 13, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
I've been interested in your Supernode vision for a long time. But I did not understand exactly what you were intending to create. Reading this post I believe I am finally starting to understand what you are trying to do.

Some initial thoughts I have are:

  • The cut off for a Supernode being only 100 bitcoins is interesting and much more inclusive than I would have expected. This is probably a good thing because the network can potentially be much bigger now. Since it is relatively easy to acquire 100 bitcoins at this point in time. (Probably not so much in the near future)
  • I noticed some people are having trouble with the titles being likened to nobility. I think some people might have a visceral reaction towards the association of bitcoin and nobility, and that might turn some people off who would probably be interested in the idea of a Supernode network otherwise. Nevertheless, I personally find it an interesting metaphor.
  • I think the sooner you can persuade other potential Supernodes to activate, the faster the network will grow. And the higher rank that the first Supernodes have, the easier it will be for the to lead by example and create a cascade of subnodes joining the network. They would be leading by example, and people naturally tend to follow those who lead.

Some questions:
  • Is this going to be a formal or informal organization?
  • If it's going to be a formal organization, do you envision having a some sort of code that all nodes are expected to follow?
  • What about governance? Do you expect to have Supernodes being chosen or elected by higher ranking nodes?
  • What about membership dues? If the organizational part of the network requires funds, do you think there will be a membership fee? And if so will it be tiered based on rank? Or will higher ranked nodes be expected to fund the network as part of the responsibility of being a high rank node.
  • Do you expect the Supernode network itself to provide infrastructure for nodes in the network? Or do you expect separate entities to be created in order to service the nodes. For example: If a Supernode arrived in Hong Kong, and was in need of office space, connectivity, and administrative assistance, would you expect that the Supernode network will be in a position to provide such infrastructure for it's members? Or, since services like this will naturally be necessary, third party companies who specialize in providing the infrastructure needed to run a Supernode will be created to service the network on an international scale?

Also, I was wondering if Roni was still in your employ? If so, do you have him working on getting the network established? I assume he would be instrumental in getting the project going since you have worked with him in the past.

Signed,


Este Nuno
Freeman
2510  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Official "First Word that Comes to Mind" Thread on: June 13, 2013, 08:42:57 AM
Helvetica
2511  Other / Off-topic / Re: Cool name for a proxy on: June 12, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
prism
2512  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Official "First Word that Comes to Mind" Thread on: June 12, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Worthless
2513  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Official "First Word that Comes to Mind" Thread on: June 12, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
Lithuania
2514  Other / Off-topic / Re: Xbox One on: June 12, 2013, 03:24:43 PM

He's right, game developers have been quietly eliminating LAN gaming for years now, Blizzard got rid of it in Starcraft 2 if I recall correctly and only put it in after a lot of demands from their customers, how these people get away with such shit and still make millions is beyond me.

Really? I didn't know that. That's surprising that they wouldn't add it. Probably some corporate activision prick had that idea.
2515  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Ashish Gulhati, et al., Satoshi Nakamoto? on: June 12, 2013, 06:56:09 AM

I'll stop for a goat.


I think your out of luck on this one. I believe he is happily married.

Any other forum members you long for?

Maria.

2516  Other / Off-topic / Re: Xbox One on: June 11, 2013, 07:23:15 PM
Xbone is already a failure.

Big swing and a miss by microsoft on this one.

Pretty much nailed it here. I just finished catching up on the Sony conference from yesterday and I'm already vastly more impressed by comparison.

It seems I'm moving back to the Sony camp if I end up getting a console this year.

Besides all the other stuff I can't believe PS4 is actually going to be 100 bucks cheaper. I really would not have predicted that.
2517  Other / Off-topic / Re: Official South Florida Thread on: June 11, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Where's the Boca Raton bitcoiners at?!?
2518  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Ashish Gulhati, et al., Satoshi Nakamoto? on: June 11, 2013, 07:09:02 PM

I'll stop for a goat.


I think your out of luck on this one. I believe he is happily married.

Any other forum members you long for?
2519  Other / Off-topic / Re: Xbox One on: June 11, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
Xbone is already a failure.

Big swing and a miss by microsoft on this one.
2520  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Official "First Word that Comes to Mind" Thread on: June 11, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
Pizza
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