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2501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 17, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Seems like only yesterday I was considering buying at 14.3$ ... Oh wait, it was!

Actually, my funds just didn't clear in time  Angry , damn you banking system, damn you !!!   Wink
2502  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BitcoinStore.com (Beta) - Electronics super store with over 500K items! on: January 17, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
2 remarks, don't know if they have been addressed before:

1) I can't find the "comparison list" (easily, and it should be easy).  Does it exist already?  If so, you might want to make 'comparison list' clickable in the message you get after you click "Add to compare"

2) I believe you only accept payments in bitcoin.  While I think your website is great for the bitcoin community and its advancement of legal businesses, why not accept alternative (meaning the traditional) means of payment too, but give like a 5% reduction for using bitcoins.  That way your target audience grows substantially, and you'll have a better shot at becoming profitable, or am I overlooking some effects?

2503  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is how easy it is to accept Bitcoin donations - my little showcase on: January 16, 2013, 09:11:36 PM
great website, good job !
2504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 'Allo 'Allo!- Answering the phone with "Bitcoin?" on: January 16, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
What do you reckon? I'm starting today.
Instead of 'hello?' or 'Remotemass speaking, hello', just "Bitcoin?" to find out who is calling.

I suggest you go full pokemon-style for everything !

Uh, I mean:

Bi bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin-bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin !

 Wink
2505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the sudden $0.30 rise? on: January 16, 2013, 11:50:05 AM
Don't worry, the cycle starts back over in 1-4 months!

Months? I doubt it will be that long.

My guess is we will be break 14.4$ by next week.

$13.40 next week...or the week after
$13.50 was pretty comfortable.

Love it when I am right  Grin
2506  Economy / Speculation / Re: USD/BTC Decoupling from forum activity and search trends on: January 15, 2013, 07:06:24 PM
So does that mean the current price increase is of a deflationary nature?

What do you mean?

I've been learning how to harvest data into R. Its just a couple scripts of downloading data and Regex. I'd post it all but its really ugly right now. Here is the forum harvester if you wanna check it out. It should just run and give you a table if you install the packages at the top.

Ah k, I am not yet familiar with R (only heard about it), but thanks for making the info available.

I'm not sure about using pearson's R. Residuals are all over the place. I'm trying to figure out how people usually analyze these things.

My understanding of Pearsons r is very basic to be honest.  The closer to 1, the stronger the correlation, that's about the extent of my knowledge :-) .  What else were you thinking of?  Other normalisation or something like that? 
It would of course be more interesting to have a number that showed the "predictive power of future price" somehow. Not sure if this exists.

By the way, in my edited previous post I suggested using an integral, but given that you are working with discrete data, that would just be the sum (of the wikipedia pageviews etc.).
2507  Economy / Speculation / Re: Call the Peak Contest/Experiment (1 BTC Prize) on: January 15, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
Shouldn't there be a "betting end date"?

Anyways, probably too bullish, but I am going for 21.5$  Smiley
2508  Economy / Speculation / Re: USD/BTC Decoupling from forum activity and search trends on: January 15, 2013, 09:38:39 AM
How about treating the search hits as a first derivative of the price?  And maybe superimpose that over the inflation.

Sounds interesting. Can you give an example of how to do this?
Sorry - I have no idea.  I never did this stuff.  It comes from the intuition of a model where new people buy bitcoins and keep them - driving the price up (the assumption that the price would go up in proportion of how much bitcoins are bought is not very sound though), and the opposite force of the supply of newly mined coins.

sounds like a pretty solid theory to me.  I would probably use the integral of search hits over time instead of first derivative, (showing the accumulation of new users), given that 1000 hits now will probably have more impact on price than 1000 hits a few years from now (assuming bitcoin keeps growing).  To account for inflation, maybe its easiest to calculate what effect the news hits have on market cap instead of price (from which price can easily be calculated by dividing by nr of coins in circulation).
Maybe also add a component which accounts for some people becoming disillusioned over time and selling (no idea how to implement that yet).

By the way 123, how did you get this data?
Might be interesting to do pearson correlation with price (or market cap) as well: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/
2509  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New site with bitcoin jokes - http://bitcoinjokes.vacau.com on: January 15, 2013, 01:24:16 AM
Did you hear about the stoner who got into Bitcoin mining?

He was doing blocks of hash while hashing blocks, and blew what he mined on blowing his mind.


I find that one pretty clever actually.  I wasn't rofl-ing, but it is nifty  Wink
2510  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-01-14 spectrum.iee.org - Ripple Credit System Could Help or Harm Bitcoin on: January 15, 2013, 12:25:18 AM
I am not knowledgeable about Ripple, but it is described as a lending system in this article.
Then why do they compare it to an exchange?
I mean, sure, you could get bitcoins for a while, but you have to pay them back.
In an exhange, you exchange one good (for example dollars) for another, permanently, because you want to own the other thing.
If you want to own bitcoins and have the capital for it, why pay interest on it?
2511  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 14, 2013, 11:36:11 PM
sideways. Until asic's are realized (real world pictures/working prototype) I think; we'll see confusion and sideways

Why do you think asics will have an impact on BTC price?

because others do

So, its like a "shorting greater fool" theory?

Mining hardware effectiveness has essentially 0 effect on price. There is no theory only sheep.

Thats what I meant
2512  Economy / Speculation / Re: $30 / BTC by March on: January 14, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
I think it's far more likely that the recent $14.3x will be the 2013 high.

I'll take that bet?!

Me too, would be glad to put money on that on http://betsofbitco.in/
You can raise it to 14.5$ for all I care, hell, make it 15$ .
2513  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 14, 2013, 11:15:48 PM
sideways. Until asic's are realized (real world pictures/working prototype) I think; we'll see confusion and sideways

Why do you think asics will have an impact on BTC price?

because others do

So, its like a "shorting greater fool" theory?
2514  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 14, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
sideways. Until asic's are realized (real world pictures/working prototype) I think; we'll see confusion and sideways

Why do you think asics will have an impact on BTC price?
2515  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-01-10 slashdot.com - Online Gambling Site Bets On Bitcoin To Avoid U.S. Law on: January 13, 2013, 01:17:24 AM
...no-one can know if bitcoin will hold its economic value in the long term.  You are totally right about that.  But I don't need such an empiric argument.  All I need is to run a version of the bitcoin software where the total amount of bitcoins is written in the code.

One bitcoin will always be a twenty-one millionth of the total amount of bitcoins.  That's what I mean when I say it can not be devaluated.  It's a fact written in the code.  It does not need the proof of time to be considered true.
There are no facts written above with which I was not already very familiar - and have even explained to others quite a lot.  Yet for me a penny dropped with what you just said in the last two sentences.

competing crypto-currencies really do not matter providing you and I (and a few others) value the fact of its inbuilt-invariable scarcity - and that we have the means of verifiably transfering it to one another.

I still think competing crypto-currencies could be a dealbreaker for bitcoin.  But it would have to have a serious advantage over bitcoins, not just another "please-make-me-rich-fast" bitcoin clone.  Moreover, the longer bitcoin stays the biggest game in crypto-town, the better established it gets, the higher the barrier for switching from bitcoin to another currency.  It would have to be that much better in order to abandon bitcoins.
2516  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the sudden $0.30 rise? on: January 11, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
(yes, a majority of newbs will think mtgox is the way to buy bitcoins).


You have a better way of buying?

localbitcoins.com


Don't know bout you, but where I live there is a hefty fee for buying coins through localbitcoins.com . 
The only possible advantage I see is that you could stay anonymous.
2517  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the sudden $0.30 rise? on: January 11, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
(yes, a majority of newbs will think mtgox is the way to buy bitcoins).


You have a better way of buying?
2518  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the sudden $0.30 rise? on: January 10, 2013, 11:13:01 PM
Don't worry, the cycle starts back over in 1-4 months!

Months? I doubt it will be that long.

My guess is we will be break 14.4$ by next week.
2519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the greatest threat to Bitcoin? Some possible technical problem or gov? on: January 06, 2013, 09:46:30 AM
If is possible technical problem, what is this? I heard on Reddit and Facebook some worries about transfers/sec. Is it a real threat?

These aren't in any particular order:

 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

While I greatly appreciate the availability of such a weaknesses list, I feel that the risks are somewhat downplayed. 
For example the 51% attack is listed as "probably not a problem", but I still think of it as a serious risk (maybe there are other much easier ways to attack the network, frankly I don't know much about the technical side).  It is assumed that the attacker seeks profit within the bitcoin system, whereas I would expect this kind of attack from a system competing with bitcoin, which would avoid losing market share to bitcoin.
2520  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 05, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
do you follow me? how do we know it is really fair with no audits?

Because you can see your orders in an order book.

sure you can see YOUR orders. and even your friends orders if they tell you the info.
but all an exchange has to do is place a few orders ahead of yours for a few cents more.
a person buys the fake orders for a higher price and yours are actually sold. the exchange
skims those few cents.

and lets face it.. where are you getting this info from? oh yea.. the exchanges api which they
fully control...

maybe my idea is not phrased right or properly but i am sure everyone here gets the gist of it.

I might be wrong, but this makes no sense to me.  So say you are selling, and when they receive a buy order that would have reached my sell limit, but they sell their stuff cheaper instead.  Now what ?   My order still stands, I still have my bitcoins.  The buying guy just got his bitcoins cheaper.  If my bitcoins were sold, but the exchange will give them back to me, they need a mechanism to get newer ones cheaper, I don't see a foolproof mechanism for that.  If they weren't going to give them back to me in the first place, why bother with the exchange shenanigans at all, why not just run away with customers deposits.

The worst I think they could do is, if someone places a big "limit" order (one that would immediately result in some transactions), is to resolve all the intermediary orders before the limit order clears, and then place their own order at the limit (for the amount of intermediary orders that they cleared), making the guy pay fully (instead of getting the cheaper intermediary stuff), while they make the difference.   With a "market" order you could make this even nastier of course.  
But for mtgox, I can see that the intermediate orders are resolved when my order clears, so I see no foul play
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