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2541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 08, 2022, 07:03:36 PM

I think he is now ready to fight a real champion as he already have two tune up fights where he won. Though it's a real fight but we know his opponents are not on his level, his promoter has to give him a chance to fight a better challenge, those two names that are mentioned are sure a great challenge for him.
And if I remember it right, Garcia is really aiming for Davis. He keeps on sending an indirect message using his social media account, it will be decided once both fighters are inside the ring. I like to see if how Garcia will throw solid combinations in case he creates an opening. The kid has a killing KO punch, but on the other hand, we are talking about Davis here who also has that same or can say much upper level.

Not to go far with my speculation, Haney and Kambosos will be waiting for whoever wins this upcoming fight. He will be the one that will wait for any challenger that will ask for his belt.


Yes, Ryan Garcia is too vocal about that and keeps on teasing Gervonta Davis in his social media accounts, no doubt that he is really looking forward to have a fight against the latter next because he already survived two tune-up fights and it is indeed time for him to face real boxers that is near or higher his caliber. I bet it will be a good sight to see if these two will share a ring and the winner gets a chance to dance with the undisputed boxer.
2542  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 08, 2022, 04:42:52 PM
So probably consistency lang ang problema ni Kai but for sure pwede naman tong ma improved habang naglalaro sya sa ligang to.

Mga 2 years pa siguro bago madeveloped pa ng husto si Kai at baka talagang kayang kaya na nya makipag sabayan sa mga NBA players. Kunting practice pa hehehehe.

Ang laki ng improvement ni Kai Sotto mula ng naglaro sya sa mga international leagues. Nahasa ang bata.

Isa ako sa mga nag-doubt sa kakayahan ni Kai nung bago pa sya kasi ang lambot talaga e.

Pero ngayon basta malapit sa ring, ilista niyo na ang puntos at dunk pa.

Doon ko nakita ang galing niya nung laban ng Gilas sa Lebanon at Saudi Arabia. Halimaw na si Kai if dito sa South East Asia maglalaro para sa Pilipinas. Tapos iyong postehan niya against Phoenix Suns, unti pa at magiging hinog tong batang to.

Oh diba? Talagang may rason kung bakit di pa sya na draft dahil mas maigi munang makakakuha sya ng mga experience bago sya tumuntong sa NBA, ngayon unti-unti na syang nahahasa dahil sa kabi-kabilaang laro at yung laro nila kontra Phoenix Suns ay magandang exposure din yun para sa kanya. May panahon din sya na mkakapasok sa liga at malamang sa malamang ay next year na yan.
2543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 07, 2022, 12:06:12 PM

That won't happen as per reducing the rounds, there are specific rounding counts depending on the weight limit per se. It's unavoidable really because it's a contact sport.
The boxers are aware of those risks because even a long time ago, they've heard and seen the news about a sudden passing through major blows on the temple.
That's the risk they know and their trainers are also assessing that so that it won't happen to the fighters that they're coaching. They know what's best for each of them and they've already embraced this as a chosen profession.

Well, the boxing commission really knows this aswell but they can not reduce certain rounds because boxing will now be boring to watch in a limited round what can they do to prevent it and to lessen the death, they are now admitting that they can not do a thing to this kind of problem but I don't really think coaches or the fighter can remedy that part with their training, but in further more years to come, it is just going to be uglier if they chooses to change certain rules in the declining popularity of Boxing over MMA like I have said if the


Almost everyone knows those risks but just like what you've said, they can't do about it to make the sport much safer. I guess that's the end of it and for now, all they can do is accept the said risks while the people behind the industry is searching for some remedies without making the fight uninteresting. This is the sport they chose, combat sports specifically and it's natural that fighters will get hurt.
2544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 07, 2022, 11:46:19 AM

The game is not that interested when the superstars aren't playing because we can't really feel the intensity if the lead players aren't there. But these pre-season games are also good because the other players in the roster can establish their skills to the public and it's a good warm-up for both teams before the season will start, formally.

Also, just like what you've said, pre-season games don't really matter so it's not really embarrassing if Bucks or Grizzlies will get defeated. But speaking of embarrassment this pre-season games, it's hard not to mention the Phoenix Suns because they got defeated and bullied by a non-NBA team named Adelaide 36ers especially when the trio of the Suns was there playing. Can't really imagine what the Point God, CP3 felt after the game.

Yup! I really don't think much about the Preseason game for the NBA and It really doesn't matter for them to lose the game aswell but showing their bench players their ability for the team and putting up teams up that the team also isn't using much and seeing their chemistry as well,

Well that game is also a preseason and I don't really know if the Phoenix Suns intentionally lost to the Adelaide 36ers as I mention the Phoenix Suns also just using the bench players for this game it is like they are really underestimating the Adelaide 36ers, but the fans of the Phoenix Suns is not happy about them losing to a non-NBA team like that they should have put in the effort of just winning,

Right, that game is not that important and pre-season was created to give time for each team to establish their plan and to know if it's good or not to draw it again. Just like the game of Lakers and Kings, the Lakers lost the game but their starters played for just 15 minutes or less and then they let the bench players play right after while the Kings let their starting five play all the way. There's indeed a difference, people should know that it's not that important including the Sun's situation versus the 36ers.
It's true, but for me this is a good chance to see how the player chemistry is, and of course if they are going to win their new team mates. I remember last year with the Lakers line up, highly anticipated and we say that it is not that important, as the impression on them is just like half baked. But look at how the team turns out to be in the regular season, but we can argue that it was due to injuries to their franchise like AD and Lebron that really contributed to their downfall.

A good chance because that's is why there are pre-season games, it's a dry run for their plans and that's the perfect opportunity to try whether if it will work or not, both teams will benefit from it and there's no win or lose at this point until the season starts formally. So far we've seen some teams that are doing good and some are not taking the risks of letting their superstars play and just give the experience to the bench players to work their skills.
2545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 07, 2022, 09:05:18 AM
Very interesting that Haney told the media that is favoring Ryan Garcia over Tank Davis if ever they will face each other in the ring.

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“I don’t know. Right now, I’m favoring Ryan Garcia but Tank obviously has that one-punch knockout power. But Ryan does too. Ryan’s much bigger, Ryan’s faster but Tank got way more experience than him. I think that's a good ass fight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-favors-ryan-garcia-over-gervonta-davis--169423

Or maybe he thinks he has better chances again Ryan against Tank Davis? Or it's that Ryan physically more bigger and faster, but we've seen tank fight taller fighter like Barrios and he was able to break him down.

But he also says what we all know already, that this fight will be difficult to make because of their promotions and the network affiliations.
I think Ryan Garcia is similar with Rolando Romero which a boxer that's have been beaten by Tank, so if Ryan vs Tank will happen I expect Tank will win here. Ryan is just relying on his physical appearance and he will try to knocking down Tank, but Tank is a technical boxer just like Haney, he can outbox Ryan. Not really sure why Haney favoring Ryan, maybe he just want to gain popularity considering most people are favoring Tank.

Both of them seems to be silent and they don't have any plan to fight against other boxers, perhaps they're want to bulking and move to next weight.

Rolly though is still raw and very awkward fighter and they are not of the similar type of fighting style.

I agree that Ryan is relying on his physically because that's what all boxers do, fight long if they have the reach advantage in the fight and then uses their strength like Ryan's left hope. And this is what Haney is considering, tall and has power in both hands. But Davis, have face a tall boxer already but doesn't have the power of Garcia.

But it will not be an easy fight for Tank and even for Ryan Garcia if they face each other.

Yes, Rolly Romero is not comparable with Ryan Garcia as these two does have different styles and strengths, Romero was too early in fighting Tank Davis and let the pride control him. Too late because he was already played and was added as a trophy to Tank Davis's record. As for Ryan Garcia, he's still a mystery to me because I believe he hasn't yet mastered his true strength, he already have the speed, strength and power but something is lacking, I just can't figure it out yet. Maybe it's much better if Davis and Garcia will fight so that we will know who's who and which is which, that might be interesting for sure.
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 06, 2022, 01:55:48 PM

As I was browsing, I found this.
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World champions Errol Spence Jr. and Terence Crawford are no closer to signing on the dotted line for a massive Pay Per View.
Despite months of back-and-forth discussions, Spence and Crawford will have to consider alternative opponents shortly.
Jaron Ennis is the next in line to challenge Spence Jr. if an undisputed welterweight title fight with Crawford fails to materialize.
Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/10/02/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-contract-mess/

This is bad news, though it's also speculation it's not good to see this kind of news that will only disappoint the fans who keep hyping this fight. I don't know why they are still hesitant to make it happen, it's a big PPV fight, both will certainly make huge money.

Indeed but unfortunately, we cannot do anything about it because that same dispute whether if it's big or small, that will likely be the reason why this fight will not materialize. It might be a speculation for now but anywhere I looked into, things are not getting good and that speculation is the nearest possible scenario because if not, then there's no reason to delay the fight any longer.
2547  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 06, 2022, 01:30:08 PM
May nakakita na ba sa inyo yong game ng team ni Kai Sotto na Adelaide 36ers' against Phoenix Suns? Hindi na masama yong pinakita ni Kai doon kasi naka-register din siya ng 11 points and 2 rebounds at nanalo pa sila. On paper, masasabi natin na pwede pala si Kai against an NBA team or pwede na siya maglaro sa NBA pero kung titingnan ng maaigi ay napakadali pa na itulak ni Kai sa ilalim, i mean malalakas pa talaga sa kanya yong mga sentro at PF ng Suns lalo na si Ayton. Dito natin makikita na kailangan talaga ni Kai na magdagdag ng muscles para may palag siya sa ilalim at para na rin iwas injury gaya ng nangyari kay Chet hehe.

Hindi ko nakita pero marami nga nagsabi na ang ganda ang laro nya at talagang may pontential syang maglaro sa NBA. At sigurado akong maraming nakanood sa US ng performance nya at napaisip kung bakit hindi sya kinuha hehehe.

Likas naman matapang ang Pinoy, ok lang sigurong matulak pero for sure, may resbak. Kaya nyan magdagdag ng muscles kung saka sakaling may kukuha sa kanya sa NBA.

Tingin ko naman ay mas maigi na hindi muna sya na draft kasi mas magkaka experience sya habang nasa Adelaide 36ers pa sya, di ko naman sinasabing wala syang makukuha sa NBA pero parang maaga pa kung ngayon taon sya na draft. Ang gusto lang naman natin ay makakapasok sya pero mas maigi kung di hamak na mas capable na sya at buffed na. Tingnan natin kung anong magiging sitwasyon sa susunod na draft dahil for sure mas na groomed sya dahil sa laro na yun. Malabong di mapansin ang kabayan natin.
2548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Some People think that long term Bitcoin holding is a dumb idea? on: October 06, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
I'm not sure but I think they don't mean bitcoin alone because if that's what they are thinking, what could be their basis to say that hodling long-term is a bad idea. It's the exact opposite, long-term will give you the profits you want but enduring the seasons will always test you and your patience especially if you're that someone who often looks at the market situation and price.
2549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 06, 2022, 06:18:43 AM

The game is not that interested when the superstars aren't playing because we can't really feel the intensity if the lead players aren't there. But these pre-season games are also good because the other players in the roster can establish their skills to the public and it's a good warm-up for both teams before the season will start, formally.

Also, just like what you've said, pre-season games don't really matter so it's not really embarrassing if Bucks or Grizzlies will get defeated. But speaking of embarrassment this pre-season games, it's hard not to mention the Phoenix Suns because they got defeated and bullied by a non-NBA team named Adelaide 36ers especially when the trio of the Suns was there playing. Can't really imagine what the Point God, CP3 felt after the game.

Yup! I really don't think much about the Preseason game for the NBA and It really doesn't matter for them to lose the game aswell but showing their bench players their ability for the team and putting up teams up that the team also isn't using much and seeing their chemistry as well,

Well that game is also a preseason and I don't really know if the Phoenix Suns intentionally lost to the Adelaide 36ers as I mention the Phoenix Suns also just using the bench players for this game it is like they are really underestimating the Adelaide 36ers, but the fans of the Phoenix Suns is not happy about them losing to a non-NBA team like that they should have put in the effort of just winning,

Right, that game is not that important and pre-season was created to give time for each team to establish their plan and to know if it's good or not to draw it again. Just like the game of Lakers and Kings, the Lakers lost the game but their starters played for just 15 minutes or less and then they let the bench players play right after while the Kings let their starting five play all the way. There's indeed a difference, people should know that it's not that important including the Sun's situation versus the 36ers.
2550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 05, 2022, 06:58:55 PM
RIP for the guy. Another death for boxing, another day of mourning. What could be possible changes in boxing to avoid future casualties? Boxing is a sport for the warriors though. These guys know that death is always in play once they enter the ring either for a real fight or a sparring session.

I don't think we can avoid it, boxing organization is doing everything they can prior to the fight, test and everything to see how healthy the boxer is. Maybe reducing the rounds again? but it won't be as competitive.

It's inevitable, there will be always some cases like that every once in a while. In the world of combat sports, the risk is always there and safety is not guaranteed, they may try to reduce the risks but they cannot take that factor away. Promoters, organizers, and fighters/boxer know that fact but they still chose to move forward because of the reward that they could get every fight.

Well, there are indeed some risks but they are willing to take that as it could get their lives more comfortable if in case they will finish the fight successfully and we cannot really blame them for that. They are knowledgeable enough to know what they get themselves into, and in simple words, not all are born to be a boxer. Reducing rounds is not that reasonable as it will make the fight uninteresting, there's a reason why boxing have 12 rounds while UFC have 3 rounds.
2551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anderson Silva vs Jake paul who you bet on? on: October 05, 2022, 05:35:15 PM
Jake paul indeed has improved well after several fights but it doesn't mean he is good compared to someone who has a lot of experience with great record and also in his prime. Anderson Silva is a veteran but every veteran have their time sooner or later. A veteran that has enough experience or skills have a chance to win against a veteran that is older for more than 10 years which the younger one have more stamina and more except experience like the veterans have.
That's the pros for being a veteran, the experience but it's true that his speed and strength lessens over time as he becomes older.

While for Jake, even if he's not that type of the pro but still he's got some experience too but not enough although he's got more flexibility and stamina than Anderson.

Well, the majority is going with Anderson Silva because we all believe that experience matters and he's got a lot of it and toughness has been built on him despite his age.

Yes, Anderson Silva is still a threat even if he's already old enough and note this is not his first fight in the ring as he also had his own share of experience when it comes boxing and came out as a winner as well. While Jake is not that quite agile and his defense is easy to crack, I have no doubt that Silva will just play some games on him. But on the betting side, it's hard to predict who will be the winner and I have some doubts too, so I think I'll pass.
2552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 05, 2022, 08:19:45 AM
Who is the coward of these two boxers? I am hearing this talks about they will face each other but we are now in 2022 and nothing has changed but all hype. If I could remember, Terrence Crawford was the undisputed champ at 140 and there were talks already about him and Errol Spence facing each other. We even believed that the fight did not materialize because of different promoters. But now Terrence Crawford as no promoter but there is no deal happening. Everyone will finally see who is ducking who in this situation.

Well there is a popular belief that Spence is somewhat stalling this fight, not necessarily being coward, but most probably just want to get the lion share of the purse. And we also believed that Crawford has agreed to the 60-40 split. So there should be no hindrance whatsoever.

And yet, the fight is still not being made and we are lead to believed that November is the date. But it's already October and we haven't heard much except what they term as 'agreed in terms'.

Either way, we cannot verify if it's indeed Spence or Crawford but just like what you said, many believed that Spence is the one who's ducking and not Crawford because the latter is really eager to make the fight happen while Spence and his camp is so silent all this time. We thought that the fight is already a done deal as they are just waiting for the signing of contracts, but just few days after, we received some news that they are again in dispute.

As I was browsing, I found this.
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World champions Errol Spence Jr. and Terence Crawford are no closer to signing on the dotted line for a massive Pay Per View.
Despite months of back-and-forth discussions, Spence and Crawford will have to consider alternative opponents shortly.
Jaron Ennis is the next in line to challenge Spence Jr. if an undisputed welterweight title fight with Crawford fails to materialize.
Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/10/02/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-contract-mess/
2553  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 05, 2022, 07:49:02 AM
Balik ulit tayo kay Westbrook, may mga balita na balik na naman sya sa trading block para sa Lakers.

Ang kino consider ng Lakers ay si Turner at si Buddy Hield at unprotected first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 para naman sa Pacers. Hindi pa naman pinapatulan ng Indiana pero since may ugong ugong na naman, baka nag uusap ang dalawang team.

Matatandaan natin na kinuha ng Lakers si Dennis ulit at si Pat na baka ito ang gawing PG ng Lakers, kailangan lang nila ng isang solid na Center na katulad is Turner at all around point at shooting guard na si Buddy Hield na sa pagkakatanda ko maganda rin ang percentage nila sa tres.

@bisdak40 - manipis talaga tong bata na to, hhehe, kulang lang sa buhat siguro para mag gain ng muscles.

Pabor ako kung sakali mang matuloy ang trade na tinutukoy mo kabayan, di na din masama kung tutuusin kahit kabilang pa ang dalawang unprotected future draft picks. Bata pa naman si Turner pero kaya nang makigsabayan, kunting experience lang at weights kailangan para halimaw na sa sentro. Kailangan talaga ng Lakers na magdagdag ng sentro dahil di na din gaanong ka reliable sa AD dahil nga ito injury prone, mas maigi kung mayroong kahalili kung sakaling ma injury ulit.
2554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 03, 2022, 04:48:42 PM
I have not heard of any new players joining the Lakers who are young and have great potential. LeBron James is getting old and it is obvious that his age is taking a toll on his performance. Looking at the Lakers team right now, we will see good experience and good players who have been around before. Anthony Davis is probably the only player who is reliable but I don't know if he is someone whom you can build a team around. Russell Westbrook and LeBron James are just too old right now. The Lakers are obviously going to have big changes in the future but till then it will be interesting to see how they can perform.
Yes, Anthony Davis is a player whom they can build a team around. Maybe Lakers will keep him for long even after Lebron James retires. It's not easy to find a big man like him who can shoot outside, has good freethrow percentage, and can-do post up plays perfectly.
It could because of what happened before when they have Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo in their roster, it failed, and it traumatized them to repeat that kind of mistake again. That's why they are not recruiting young guns.
No doubt he can be effective, probably one of the best centers now, however, if he gets injured most of the time, that would make the Lakers struggle especially in the playoffs because it was very evident that without Davis they cannot win against good teams in the NBA.

Hopefully this season to come he will be able to play more games, especially in the playoffs where he is needed the most.

It is likely that he will be the most important player for the Lakers if he can stay healthy. The only problem is that he is quite prone to injuries. The only reason I said that he is not someone reliable around whom a team can be built is because he is quite injury-prone. There is no doubt that the Lakers need him this season because without him I believe that the Lakers are going to be a failure in the playoffs this year. Furthermore, he is not an old man either. As a result, he will be able to provide his services to the team for a longer period of time. It is at least a long period of time compared to LeBron James and Russell.

Well, guess what? The season haven't started yet but Anthony Davis is already probable to play because of back problems and together with the 2 players from the bench namely Walker and Brown, the Lakers released an injury report for their pre-season game against the Sacramento Kings. If Davis will be like the most of the times, they need to start in forgetting Davis and find another reliable big man because they can't put all that load on Lebron's shoulders. His talent is very useful for the Lakers but what will that talent do if he's always on the sidelines because of his never ending injuries.
2555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My worst day in gambling on: October 03, 2022, 03:43:43 PM
I believe everybody has their worst day in gambling especially if you started gambling early maybe in your teenage age. My worst day was when I used my school fees to gamble because I thought I will make more money to take care of some of my needs in school. At the beginning I was making profit for 2hrs,I was carried away with the anxiety of winning but later the game turned round and I was losing and losing,I didn't quit hoping I will recover my lost. Before I knew it I was left with 10% of the money I started with, I couldn't just quit the game then because I still feel I will start winning again but luck failed me and I got drained of all I have on me.

    Two weeks later it was announced in school that we only had one more week left for closure of school fees payment, I tried borrowing, seek for help everywhere but nobody could help me with the money.  This was how I couldn't pay my fee for that semester and went home with carry overs after the end of the semester as I was not allowed to write some exams.

  How about you do you had a worst day on gambling  that you will never forget ?Did it affect an aspect of your life and how ?
   

One of the best classic examples why we should only gamble when we have some spare funds, we already know that the money we had is already allocated specifically and we shouldn't use it for other reasons aside from emergency purpose. Although I can't really blame what the OP did because we have our own share of story and I don't if someone can relate but personally, most of the time, I think fate will be playing against us if we're using some funds that aren't allocated for gambling.
2556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you change your mind on gambling ? on: October 03, 2022, 02:32:50 PM
I think you should know that your ISP can track your online activities and they know if you are visiting gambling sites on your cell phone and computer. They can give this data to the government anytime if they feel like or if the government demands it. So i hope you are using a paid VPN and you know all the tips and tricks to hide your identity online. It's still not safe to play gambling online if the government had banned it already.
luckily I still haven't had a problem even though I only use cloudflare VPN when opening crypto gambling sites through my smartphone and laptop

I know for sure that my online activities have the potential to be tracked, but because I only use small capital, the authorities don't really care lol

It really depends upon the government, how much they are serious about catching the people who are gambling illegally, and usually the amount which you use to gamble should not matter.

Either the government does not know that you are a gambler or they don't have plans to actively caught people gambling, otherwise, they would have come to you irrespective that you gamble with small amounts.

We should not forget that the authorities have more serious problems to solve which they spend their time and money. The gambler does not bring significant problems to the state, so it is impractical to spend effort on tracking it. Of course there can be demonstrative processes for intimidation, but I do not think that this will make gamblers completely stop gambling.

In addition, do not forget that gambling can be played not only in land or online casinos. I'm sure that in every country there are illegal casinos where law enforcement agencies can't get in.

It would be a waste if the government will pour too much resources just to track down these gamblers just to impose the the new rule/law, it would be an expensive mistake because as said above, there are way more problems that needs to be prioritized that are more harmful to the people and its government. Instead of prohibiting it from the use of public, the government should just take advantage of it by taking taxes. They cannot just hunt everybody down as these days, people are way more clever than the authorities and there's VPN that can be used.
2557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 02, 2022, 01:12:56 PM
Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.
Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.
Meralco had a strong start in the 3rd quarter but Ginebra finish it strong.

We are now in the 4th quarter and Ginebra is having a double-digit lead already.
We know how good Ginebra is in the 4th quarter, once they have a good run, they will not let their opponent catch up and most of the time the game will end in a big margin win.

So @Yamifoud, looks like you have a big win tonight.

Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.
2558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 02, 2022, 11:49:39 AM
Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

I'm watching the game now, it's very entertaining and I'm liking it because Ginebra is still ahead. I know it's going to be a close game but all I like is for Ginebra to win by at least 4 points. Grin....

Waiting also in live, if Ginebra will be down by many points, I might take the ML as long as it's 3.00 and above.

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.
2559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 01, 2022, 06:14:00 PM
I would not risk at that kind of odds, I'd rather look for an odds of 1.50 over 1.03 even if there's a huge chance it will win, one of the reasons is that upsets do happen in any sports, especially in boxing. Well, just let us know the odds for Inoue winning by KO in less than 6 rounds, I think that would be more interesting.

Yes, we should wait for more betting options while the fight is approaching. For now, we only have limited options. I'm expecting the odds for Naoya Inoue winning by Knockout in less than 6 rounds is still low knowing Inoue is really good at that and has a good Knockout rate in early rounds.

High odds will be expected at Inoue winning by Decision or KO at late rounds which in reality, it's hard to bet on that options.

However, that's the challenge in betting. No way bookies will give an easy pick with a high odds in the first place.

Yeah, it's very challenging on our part because bookies are so smart, we thought it was easy to win but in reality we gamblers are losing more than we win. In this fight, we know Inoue will win, but the question is, what round ranges he would be able to stop Butler.

maybe the odds for Inoue winning via decision is very much attractive, so we can wait on the odds to be available.

Yes, there's no way that the bookies will give such listing that is favorable to us bettors especially in this fight that is almost clear enough to say that Inoue is the one who will win and be named as the undisputed boxer in bantamweight division. Aside from the challenge to guess what round range will Inoue stop Butler, there's also a chance that Butler might survive a full 12-round fight. Not because he can keep up with the monster but because he chose the safe way to finish the fight.
2560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i get banned for Card Counting in online casinos? on: October 01, 2022, 05:28:25 PM
Card counting is not illegal, but in real life casinos people get kicked from casinos for this action, and casinos really hate people using this methods because it gives some advantage to the users.

If you don't know how card counting works you can read this explanation from fiulpro:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273810.0

Or you can watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfLuM-Pqr8

Here the question is, have you ever seen a user getting banned from an online casino for card counting?

To be clear, card counting isn't a method to always win, it's just a method to have better odds.
There is little doubt in my mind that something like this could happen to you, assuming that the casino in which you are playing does not shuffle after every round, something that I have seen even with a live dealer at many online casinos, and if that is the case eventually you are going to get banned.

And this is something that is very easy to identify, because most dealers know how to use card counting as well so if they notice that you begin to bet more money when you have the count in your favor then they are going to report your account.

Either way, you will still likely end up getting kicked out or worse get banned from entering that establishment again. Card counting is not illegal, of course, but the casino cannot let you have your chance again because you're already a threat to their daily income and we know that casino isn't built for the client's advantage. So chances are high that you will be eliminated, expect that if you start doing the said method.
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