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TL;DR Announcement For next month (September), the Byteball airdrop rates for Bitcoin holders have been reduced by 90%. That means all numbers in this post are much larger than current reality, basicall my airdrop sharing ended unless you hold several Bitcoins.
I am looking for signatures from Bitcoin addresses with a high balance, to join the Byteball airdrop. On August 7 I will receive altcoin Byteball (bytes/GBYTE) based on the cumulative balance of linked Bitcoin addresses. After selling them, I'll share 50% of the profit. This currently amounts to 0.0096* BTC per Bitcoin you own on August 7. To join: Post your Bitcoin address here, sign message 4VKOKOM6PSZBSZKMIYM7M3ZRGBFKBN3B, and post the signature. I will use this same Bitcoin address to send your share to. If you sign from more than one address, let me know which one to use for your share. Continue reading at "Stellar Lumens" for another 0.0031* BTC per Bitcoin from another signature.Byteball: Full story Byteball will distribute 98% of it's coins (called bytes) to Bitcoin holders, based on the balance of linked addresses. This airdrop happens in several rounds. The 8th round will happen on August 7, 2017 at 18:10 UTC (at full moon). Every Bitcoin in an address linked to Byteball at the time of the airdrop, will give 6.25 million bytes (0.00625 GBYTE). After receiving the bytes, I will sell 80% of them on Bittrex. The remaining 20% I'll keep, to support Byteball. The first Bitcoin block after full moon is used as a snapshot for qualifying balances, so don't transfer your Bitcoins instantly at full moon. To sum up: 50% of the airdrop value value goes to share holders in this thread (this amounts to 62.5% of the 80% I sell). 30% (minus Bitcoin fees) of the bytes-value goes to me (this amounts to the remaining 37.5% of the 80% I sell). 20% of the airdrop won't be sold at this point (this is part of my 50%). To join: Sign message 4VKOKOM6PSZBSZKMIYM7M3ZRGBFKBN3B (my Byteball address) from the Bitcoin address that will hold your balance on August 7. If you don't know how to sign a message, shorena made a tutorial: How to sign a message?!. You can join with more than one Bitcoin address. Just sign a message from each address, and post the address and signature here. If you don't want to post your Bitcoin address/balance in public, send me your address + signature in a private message. Example (Byteball):-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- 4VKOKOM6PSZBSZKMIYM7M3ZRGBFKBN3B -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- 1RoLLiNpNdPDKkgyngdSg5QHBqRqTUrFY HJhbVYGzJvhR/5Y6R2TRJnyBkojMR9B365SEcniTCtCiHsUAqRl0MZCHNpJKGVCjs5PwR2k23eAdFaQbe0yvhX0= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- I will update full statistics in this thread.So if I own 100 BTC I get 0.96 BTC? Assuming the exchange rate stays the same: yes! I really hope a few whales join. And this is the reason why I started this thread: I'm missing out on a very nice airdrop because I don't have a thick wallet. To work around this, I hope to make it easier for others to join, and share the revenue.Previous rounds 5th round: May 10, 2017 at 21:42 UTC (0 BTC linked) 6th round: June 9, 2017 at 13:10 UTC (48 BTC linked, see payments) 7th round: July 9, 2017 at 04:07 UTC (11 BTC linked, see payments and payments) 8th round: August 8, 2017 at 18:10 UTC (18 BTC linked, see payments)Next month If you joined already, you're in! If you don't touch your Bitcoins, you don't need to do anything. If you moved your Bitcoin to another address, please sign another message from the new address, or send your Bitcoins back to a linked address. If you have Bitcoins at other addresses, move them to a linked address or sign a message from those addresses. Keep in mind that most wallets send the change to a new address when you make a payment. When in doubt: post here or PM me. Current estimates are the airdrop continues for about 6 more months.Minimum amount If your share is less than 0.001 BTC, unfortunately, you won't receive anything. Bitcoin fees are too high to send amounts this small. This sets a minimum Bitcoin balance of approximately 3 BTC*. Price speculation Right after every airdrop, the bytes-value dropped significantly due to sell-offs. On June 9 I sold about 28% under the price peak it had just days earlier. If you want, I can keep your share in bytes, and sell it 25 days after I received them, a few days before the next airdrop. This is a gamble: it may pay off, but it may also lower your share. If you want this, please let me know. If you don't mention it, I'll sell right after the airdrop.blackbytes The airdrop also shares blackbytes. This is a private asset. No exchange accepts them yet, so they're excluded from this program. In other words: all airdropped blackbytes stay in my wallet. If an exchange becomes availabe in the future, I can start sharing revenue from blackbytes too. But this will be up to my discretion, it will depend among others on how successful this thread is.Full disclosure: Linked addresses You can check linked addresses. If you link the address to another Bytecoin wallet, the address is ignored for the airdrop. So don't do that.NEW: Stellar Lumens ENDED I'm thrilled to announce I am expanding this thread with Stellar Lumens. The Stellar Airdrop has started! In it's second airdrop, Stellar Lumens is distributing 16% of the initial coin supply. Last year, the first round distributed 19%. Since then, it's value has increased from $0.002 in October to just under $0.03 now. A Bitcoin snapshot was taken on June 26: any Bitcoins you held at that moment qualify. The airdrop ends on August 27. Every Bitcoin in an address at the time of the snapshot, will give 974.957961 XLM. I'll use the same share ratio as I used for Byteball. At current value, I'll give you 0.0056 BTC per Bitcoin signed.To join: Sign this message:Stellar.org Bitcoin Giveaway Round 2: GDCGO44VR7J4PGEGRFNNFUCWHUR5G43BO3T256NY4LA6CY7YBSWCJFE2 from the Bitcoin address(es) that held your balance on the day of the snapshot (June 26). If you don't know how to sign a message, shorena made a tutorial: How to sign a message?!. You can join with more than one Bitcoin address. Just sign a message from each address, and post the address and signature here. If you don't want to post your Bitcoin address/balance in public, send me your address + signature in a private message. Example (Stellar Lumens):-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Stellar.org Bitcoin Giveaway Round 2: GDCGO44VR7J4PGEGRFNNFUCWHUR5G43BO3T256NY4LA6CY7YBSWCJFE2 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- 1RoLLiNpNdPDKkgyngdSg5QHBqRqTUrFY HJUbbnZ+OO6tIA+ouWTOmMvEJfP18tH0p1EtUYhwJwAEQqfM17goHjL2gUdPCKJMTobdSDM1PiqLzerkJ19F2NQ= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- After joining, you'll receive your share within a few days.Is this safe? Yes. Signing a message does not give anyone access to your Bitcoins. It's not a ponzi, it's not a get-rich-quick-thing, and I am not asking you to send me any Bitcoins. Needless to say: never post your private key anywhere!Other airdrops If another worthy altcoin airdrop pops up, I'll add it to this thread. If a new program appears after the Byteball program ends, I will use it to continue paying dividend in exchange for signatures.No spam All my threads are now self-moderated to stop signature spam. I will remove all irrelevant posts. If you quote the entire OP, your entry will be deleted. Once in a while I'll summarize posts and clean up this thread.You're nuts! I can do this without you and earn more! Yes. You are absolutely right. You can install the Byteball client on your own computer, follow the guidelines, get GBYTE airdropped, and sell them. Or you can save yourself the trouble, just sign a message, and let me do it for you. I have the client running in a virtual machine to ensure no rogue wallet can compromise my system.
I want out! Just move your Bitcoins to another address. After this, they are no longer linked to my Byteball wallet.
Disclaimer Although unlikely, several things can fail. I don't control the Byteball airdrop nor the exchange rate. I'll do everything within my power to get you your 50% share, but if I don't get anything, there's nothing to share. I will continue this thread as long as it's worth it (as long as the airdrop continues). This means I can continue sharing revenue. It will be up to my discretion to change, update or end this thread at any moment if I feel I need to do so, but so far I see absolutely no reason to end it. The price went up a lot recently (about 400% since I started this thread), which of course is no guarantee for what happens in the future. In the past months, the price dropped a bit after every airdrop. If it drops a lot, we earn less. But since we didn't risk anything, it's still a freebie.
Why trust me Check LoyceV's Hero Campaign/Services Portfolio to see what campaigns I am managing. Check Payments to see me share about $1220 after the June airdrop. Subsequent comments testify to this. See my Trust summary (click "Untrusted feedback").
Dividend One could argue holding Bitcoin now pays dividend!
*This is 50% of the current exchange rate on Bittrex.com. This can and will vary beyond my control, I will share 50% of the actual value when I sell the bytes and Lumens. Old Bids (current bits are much lower):
0.30995000 BTC per GBYTE.
0.00001167 BTC per XLM.
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I found a very interesting link inside this link: Bitcoin v0.1 released 2009-01-09 20:05:49 UTC, which shows release notes from Satoshi Nakamoto. The basic idea was to create new Bitcoins as a subsidy for nodes: When that runs out, the system can support transaction fees if needed. It's based on open market competition, and there will probably always be nodes willing to process transactions for free. Miners currently still get about $15,000 in Bitcoins every 10 minutes as a subsidy. It is incredibly harmful for Bitcoin's future that they want to squeeze more money in the form of fees out of users long before mass-adoption has been reached, and long before there is any need caused by a much lower Block subsidy. Short-term financial goals vs a long-term electronic peer-to-peer cash system. Note that Satoshi only mentioned "nodes", not miners! Nowadays Bitcoin nodes only support the network without earning from it, while the dedicated mining hardware gets the money. As far as I understand SegWit, it could give something back to the nodes, and take away some of the power from miners.
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Can someone explain what a "bitcoin wallet provider" is? Is that like when your alt provides your main account with a new address or something?
What is meant here is not a wallet. He means any website where you deposit Bitcoins without owning the private key. For example an exchange, or an online casino. Usually Bitcoin addresses 1addyA and 1addyB are linked together when outputs from 1addyA and 1addyB are spend in one transaction. If 1addyA and 1addyB are part my wallet (say Bitcon Core), than indeed both addresses belong to me. However, if 1addyA and 1addyB are owned by third-party-site X, it is very likely that Bob has deposited to 1addyA while Alice deposited to 1addyB. Now, when outputs from 1addyA and 1addyB are spend in one transaction, that has nothing to do with neither Bob nor Alice.
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Yeah, 70,000 garbage, no-fee transactions by tumblers and gambling sites.
The tumblers can go to hell. Bitcoin is not supposed to be Mastercard. It is a settlement system for people transferring significant amounts of money, not jokers buying sandwiches and playing nickel slots.
You might want to read Satoshi's Whitepaper again. Start with the title: "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System". Premined and hardforking altcoins are rising, because Bitcoin is being limited by "the ones in power".
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You don't have to specify the exact conditions. Think of the DAO. The program did not behave as it was supposed to. I think in cases like this, you can say that the programmers are liable.
Who is ever going to take a programming job, if he will be held accountable for the loss of $200 million? That's the difference with lawyers: they cover their own interests in legal disclaimers. If your lawyer makes a mistake, he'll most likely get away with it. Most software comes without warranty too: if a software programmer makes a mistake, he isn't liable any damage it causes.
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Prefix: 1asu and 1coins04DA19AE61EA216A88F2844C28C838FAD998E390B1BCF2B118A1139678CF2961EE855D0C30EF01B616AD8FC48E395FDEBFF5E4D064F6891572EF0D0AC34EFA2398 I got you both. Remember: if one were to get compromised, they both are. Address: 1 asu1L9DPwSMdfXVR1hnMCNSaPGhBkiM6 (Balance: ) PrivkeyPart: 5JaLQrFLBJ4Q1Wcw616Sqy493wmR6VfH9tKG9dB3N5MgvnMpNJa Address: 1 coinsrgBwq4DSzFeHaFdtrg9ZWwNDSfz (Balance: ) PrivkeyPart: 5JbBi3cKUbG3znUMgvETgsyD91UGFfeu916p8krie6dcaRPzr6N Edit: asu requested "Can you make the first letter be capital": Address: 1 Asu1mGNkLctuTmCebzwPpdRfMemZzobWA (Balance: ) PrivkeyPart: 5J7c3jek3gnPpZLaxCc3ZKhyabXmnPjNxyUEx2prZcA1TCDghpu Address: 1 Coins3cxN32ie1Sg8MuhtTGMBPSxoqpYV (Balance: ) PrivkeyPart: 5JpzSv6RT2UvHanXNfqe52a4jg5yxTt7ihXMSVxW2n82JcKU8wu
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Hey LoyceV, it seems I am also having an issue with blackbytes. I received the bytes from 4th round distribution, but no blackbytes as of today. What did you do exactly to receive it? I sent a message to tony, but apparently blackbytes were still being distributed at that time. That has completed now, so I suggest you send tony a message if something still went wrong.
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This is a terrible way to use a bar graph! If it is cumulative, it should be 1 bar with 4 different colors (one for each year). Now it looks like 2016 earned them 2.1 billion, while it is closer to 0.6 billion. And this would exclude the transaction fees.....
The next image in the article answers this: Just under $14 million last year. I can make a very rough estimate for this year: fees are now around 1.5 Bitcoin per block. That's around $1800 per block, or $14 million in about 2 months. 6 times higher than last year.
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I've just received my blackbytes! I'm not sure if tony did it after my private message, or it just took a long time to arrive. Earlier I left the wallet open for hours to sync and nothing happened. ... I have the Transition Bot in my chat, I'm not sure what "paired device" means exactly.
May be also interesting for other people: To use any privacy feature in Byteball (i.e. the chat function or blackbyte transfer / blackbyte trading), you have to pair the involved devices. Isn't that done on installation already? I don't need multisig, and I've received my blackbytes. So I think I'm done for now. Thanks guys
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You are supposed to receive blackbytes according to the bytes you receive depending on bitcoins on your linked BTC address and/or bytes on your linked Byteball address. In that case I should have received blackbytes too. Did you have positive balances on your linked BTC address(es) and/or you Byteball linked address(es)? Yes. That's why I did receive Bytes, but no Blackbytes. On a side note, there has been cases where Tony had to re-send blackbytes to some addresses that didn't receive them during the distribution, before you contact him, let's make sure that everything was set up as it should have. In this case, I think something went wrong. Okay, so if I understand correctly the bytes you got are according to BTC and/or bytes you have on linked addresses (you should normally find them here http://transition.byteball.org by the way). In that case, you should send a private message to Tony, explaining the situation, and he will re-send the blackbytes to you. I never had "bytes" before, so it came from my Bitcoin connection. I'll send Tony a message to continue my ride in altcoins Thanks!
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This doesn't answer my question about why I didn't receive any airdropped blackbytes.
You are supposed to receive blackbytes according to the bytes you receive depending on bitcoins on your linked BTC address and/or bytes on your linked Byteball address. In that case I should have received blackbytes too. Do you have the Transition bot as paired device in the chat? I have the Transition Bot in my chat, I'm not sure what "paired device" means exactly.
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Since you seem to be a genuine poster, I was wondering; I personally would be pissed off knowing that what I would have lost in coin quantity, is only refunded to me in USD equivalent according to the value at that time. This is indeed wrong on so many levels: -they decided to socialize their losses over all customers, while in fact they should have filed for bankruptcy (according to laws in most countries at least) -they created "tokens" that were traded at lower price, possibly buying back their own debt at a lower price -they had a debt many times bigger than their annual profit. Where did they get the money this quick? -they now pay back the USD value, which is like half the Bitcoin value. That means they compensate 2 BTC by giving you 1 BTC (rounded for the sake of argument) I'm surprised people still use this exchange, before the hack they claimed to be safe with multisig wallets.
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This doesn't answer my question about why I didn't receive any airdropped blackbytes.
You are supposed to receive blackbytes according to the bytes you receive depending on bitcoins on your linked BTC address and/or bytes on your linked Byteball address. In that case I should have received blackbytes too. Did you have positive balances on your linked BTC address(es) and/or you Byteball linked address(es)? Yes. That's why I did receive Bytes, but no Blackbytes. On a side note, there has been cases where Tony had to re-send blackbytes to some addresses that didn't receive them during the distribution, before you contact him, let's make sure that everything was set up as it should have. In this case, I think something went wrong.
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I tried engaging the transition bot and it just echos whatever I say. Does that mean I'm too late? Or that the bot is temporarily offline?
yes, that means you were late for the fourth round. The transition bot will be up and running again for the fifth distribution which will take place in May I did receive bytes, but no blackbytes. I was under the impression it would be included after claiming bytes. Did I have to make a separate claim for the blackbytes? From https://byteball.org/ : In the 4th round, which is scheduled for the full moon of April (April 11, 2017 at 06:08 UTC), we'll distribute 62.5 MB for each 1 BTC of linked balance and 0.1 new byte for each 1 byte you already hold. To participate, install the wallet and chat with the Transition Bot that will help you link your Bitcoin and Byteball addresses. Maybe I missed the part where I should also link blackbytes addresses? How do I do this for the next round? The transition bot tells you how many bytes you have on each linked Byte address. If it's not your complete balance, simply send your bytes to this address. This doesn't answer my question about why I didn't receive any airdropped blackbytes.
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I tried engaging the transition bot and it just echos whatever I say. Does that mean I'm too late? Or that the bot is temporarily offline?
yes, that means you were late for the fourth round. The transition bot will be up and running again for the fifth distribution which will take place in May I did receive bytes, but no blackbytes. I was under the impression it would be included after claiming bytes. Did I have to make a separate claim for the blackbytes? From https://byteball.org/ : In the 4th round, which is scheduled for the full moon of April (April 11, 2017 at 06:08 UTC), we'll distribute 62.5 MB for each 1 BTC of linked balance and 0.1 new byte for each 1 byte you already hold. To participate, install the wallet and chat with the Transition Bot that will help you link your Bitcoin and Byteball addresses. Maybe I missed the part where I should also link blackbytes addresses? How do I do this for the next round?
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... Gold bars. When I received them and tried to sell them at a local market in my country and they didn't accept the Gold bar because there was no mark on them indicating that they are 24K pure gold. Why there are NO marks on the bars at all? I can't tell you why there is no mark on them, but why would a buyer rely on that? Someone who is able to create a fake bar filled with tungsten could easily fake the mark too. I personally know dozens of people who use Goldmoney regularly and think its an amazing tool to protect your savings.
I urge people to try it for themselves.
Thank you brand new user for creating an account just to share your opinion. Not suspicious at all
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I'm however not sure about the part where he said "Bitcoin's user network grew from 120,000 users in 2013 to 6.5 million users in 2017" as there is no way to calculate the userbase of bitcoin. Despite all that, what are your thoughts?
Let's assume this is true, and see what that means: The last 4 Blocks processed 1603 + 1935 + 1047 + 1799 transactions. I'll take this as average: 1596 transactions every 10 minutes. That gives 229,824 transactions per day. Now let's assume the best-case scenario, in which transactions are evenly spread out between users. That means these 6.5 million users each make 1 transaction in 28 days. This is of course not realistic: active users make much more transactions, which means the large majority of less-active users take manu months between transactions. The assumption of 61 times more users by 2030 would lead to 1 transaction per user in 5 years at current block size. Is it realistic to call Person X a Bitcoin user, if he made 1 transaction in 2016? I don't think so. I traveled by train once in 2016, that doesn't make me a train user. The 50-fold increase in users shows the scaling problem again: prices can't grow as long as users can't make more transactions. Now back to the catchy topic title: if this is his expectation, did he invest most of his wealth in Bitcoin? The article doesn't mention anything about his own personal holdings.
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