Bullshit someone would have to win a court judgement before that happened. Otherwise the same could just be done to Bitmine. They have to PROVE that there are fake/Stolen/counterfeit versions of their proprietary protected IP. He'll they have to prove they actually have any Ip claim First!

Until this happens its game on.

Then err on the side of caution, but don't go around accusing unless you have proof, plus what's your interest in all this anyway?

Plus, to make this an even handed comment, even if Bitmine can prove that someone stole their IP how are they going to know if you have one?

No a mug is someone who pays £1150 for a product that costs £520 inc VAT and delivery from the manufacturer.

Exactly! Plus they aren't excactly known for their honesty with their customers so far.

And you believe him?

Regardless, ck can't incriminate himself by reviewing a machine.

Why would he be incriminating himself?

Thats what I was trying to say, barebones boards, would you need a controller I thought it used a Rpi as a controller?


Whats the difference between supplying entire miners WITH the chips or boards WITH the chips.

As the the proprietary tech, do you mean bitmine? Its only their word on it, and their word isn't exactly good round these parts these days according to their customers.

I would have thought that if Bitmine were so full of ownership of the A1 chips then they would have been able to legally stop these guys dead in their tracks from manufacturing or selling chips based on their proprietary tech. As that hasn't happened yet I'm reluctant to believe either party.

But you don't have to switch to cloud if your Neptune is late. KnC already said that: "Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers."

Compensated, so if I was a neptune owner I'd keep my order, and take the compensation until the order is ready to ship.

There is an "in addition" to the compensation package, which is to switch totally to a cloud product if you so wish, but you don't have to take it up, you can just cloud mine until your hardware arrives.

Another take on the TapeOut info released is that like in the past, they taped out some weeks ago and wanted to be sure that it went well and passed all tests before announcing it, saving them the problem of announcing the tapeout and then finding problems that required a respin.

Do you mean you will sell the boards alone fully populated or that you just provide the chipset/boards and buyers would have to purchase ASICs to populate?

 

What exactly are you disgusted about? They delivered what they promised, in fact, as you so like to do in your business, for most they over-delivered from what they promised and they were closer than anyone else to being on time. As for Neptune, the jury is still out on that, but at least they are paying out refunds to those who get cold feet. You make it sound like they are running off with everyones money.

They taped out last month, they are developing an expensive process, cutting edge, alot like their 28nm ASIC was, in terms development and delivery timescales was. And just in case they miss their own internal deadline they are going to offer those who are still hanging in there another way out, to convert to cloud hashing at the same output rate as the hardware.

Doesn't sound like a company thats treating their customers disgustingly. Sounds like a company that is pioneering, pushing the boundaries and isn't 100% sure of the timescales to get to where they want to get to so is trying to cover all the bases to make sure they don't rip off their customers.

Sure people have a right to be dissapointed that its not going according to their own private plan/agenda, but they can get out of it if they want.

Just search the thread, theres about 100 posts about it.

You know if everyone had just shut up about all the customs stuff here and in other publicly accessible threads then you'd probably still be paying a reasonable amount. Its not like customs and excise are dumb they know how to search the net ffs.  

If you look back through the thread, what's happening now and over the past month is almost exactly what happened then. KnC are actually staying true to form and following a very similar pattern to the October launch.

Next drop probably when there is either a major change in BTC price or About 8.5 days when difficulty goes up another 15% or so

Pah!, I took the train to Yorkshire to buy a 4K car, its surely worth it for a 7K miner

1.2W/GH
500GH/S
2.4BTC

Antminer doesn't use http so you need direct access through your firewall to the ports your pool uses.

You might be able to find a pool that uses http and try that, but if you are trying to do this from behind a college or school firewall I doubt it will work, maybe if you buy a private VPN.

I think all the 0.2 coupons expired at the end of feb

Not worth it. Needs to be half that price.

Holy shit did you have to quote the entire post?

From past history and knowing the sort of market there is here they aren't going to say anything until they have something in stock. It would decimate their existing sales if they announced a next gen miner.