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2581  Economy / Economics / Re: Why wont Bitcoin have the same problems as the Gold/US Dollar crisis? on: May 26, 2014, 01:15:16 AM
The Gold Standard didn't have a supply crisis.
It had a inflation crisis, when governmeday) in massive counterfeiting and manipulation.
nts printed receipts for more gold than they had in the coffers.
The governments, simply, engaged (like to

Not only that but the mining rate was not fixed.  Where it is progressively harder to mine Bitcoin, or the PoS coins where there is no mining, the amount of gold mined was unpredictable and this resulted in periods of severe deflation and inflation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_General_Crisis


2582  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evidence of Neo Nazi in Ukrainian military units. on: May 25, 2014, 08:10:00 PM
The US, EU and Israel needs to think twice before supporting these goons and supplying them with arms and ammunition. The regular Ukrainian soldiers are refusing to fight the civilians, while it is the Right Sector militants who are usually put on the front line.

they already did, didn't you check the new government composition and relation to neo nazi groups? Sadly the real loser here is Ukrain and Ukrainian population, while Russia and the west are only fighting for their geopolitical and economical interest.

I second this, most of the people do not have direct benefit. For example, if you own a house in the ukraine.. whats the market price value now?

Probably the same.  Houses in every country remain on market for years, even decades, until they find some sucker to buy it off them.  Eastern Europe is full of terrible homes that are listed for $500K+, like it's a joke.  Grin
2583  Economy / Economics / Re: Russia & China bypass USD on: May 25, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
US's broke, no money to bomb Syria and the US "help" to Ukraine is laughable, considering the Canadians sent more aircraft and advisors.

US can't fight a war with anyone - the Empire is gone, it's like the British Empire back in the 1950s.
2584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russians boycotting US food industry. on: May 25, 2014, 05:53:13 PM
No wives means more disposable income so the guys would just spend their money on hookers, drugs and ATVs.  It's what guys are already doing in Perth and Edmonton.  I think you all underestimate how expensive children and *especially* wives can be.

The lack of family can result in an upswing in the crime rates, and complete breakdown of the social fabric. Also, in future, that will mean that there are less and less tax payers to combat the increase in the population of the elderly.

I'm not familiar with any of those studies, at least on a global basis.  I think the studies you refer to were conducted in impoverished neighborhoods in the US where single mothers and/or divorce is prevalent and a lack of family is being blamed for being the cause in crime and social upheaval (chicken before the egg hypothesis).

In Japan's case - you have a huge generation of "Grass Eaters" now, men not in relationships, not married and without kids and there's no explosion in crime.

At least with the oil towns that I know about - while the stories of crime and cocaine are exaggerated, on a per capita basis (percentage) they're generally no different (if not slightly safer) than normal cities.  There's many cities in the United States like Chicago which are "no go zones" for normal humans, how could oil towns be worse?

Though you are correct about the tax base.  The biggest economic spenders tend to be women and thus they're overrepresented in consumer tax and real estate tax revenue and those two would plummet in a hypothetical bachelor society (hence why some countries in the past had "bachelor taxes" to make up for the loss).  As well, without women and children, men can also retire earlier and thus that's a loss in overall income tax base.
2585  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russians boycotting US food industry. on: May 25, 2014, 02:14:49 AM
There is a huge gap in the child sex ratio in China. There are something like 1,200 males for every 1,000 females, in the 0-14 age group. It will be better for China to export this excess male population to places like Angola, in order to prevent social unrest in the future.

No, as I said before most of Africa is too expensive in relative to China.  To live first world and second lifestyles can be extremely expensive in third world countries.

Though the 1200 males for every 1000 females is nothing - we've had those conditions in the west for very long times, especially in blue collar mining towns and mining towns haven't had any noticeable unrest in eons (if there's unrest then it's over work conditions, not a lack of p00sy).  Supposedly there are cities in China with a gender imbalance and there's no doom.


  No wives means more disposable income so the guys would just spend their money on hookers, drugs and ATVs.  It's what guys are already doing in Perth and Edmonton.  I think you all underestimate how expensive children and *especially* wives can be.

The women always cause the most.   Grin  Eating out, shoes and purses adds up..
2586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation-fraudsters, pedophiles, murderers ,fat fucks and scammers on: May 25, 2014, 02:04:42 AM
The biggest problem "inherent to capitalism" is that people do not know what it really is and they believe the crap taught it school and on TV. In case you do not know, real free-market capitalism is an ideal condition to work towards achieving..
These "capitalism would be perfect if only we were DOING IT RIGHT" pipedream arguments remind me of something... now what could it be?

Ahhh yes, fundamentalist Christianity. Wake the fuck up, capitalism is a living nightmare for most of the world.

Capitalism is a religion, and economics is the pseudo-science which supports it.

It is the direct descendant of feudalism, our last ties to an era characterized by violence, slavery, and exploitation. For god's sake we're still paying RENT in 2014!! We peasants paying LAND-LORDS for the RIGHT to LIVE in decent shelter. There are no barbarians trying to kill us these days, the LORDS do nothing to protect the LAND, yet still we PAY THEM. WHY? Tradition, ignorance, obedience, nation-state indoctrination, and stupidity - that's why.

If you want a decent future for your grandchildren to live in, you must accept that decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education are a BIRTHRIGHT for ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE!


"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
"There is only one good: Knowledge. And one evil: Ignorance"
-Socrates

As long as there is property tax - you don't own the land.  We regularly boot out 70+ year olds because they undergo some sort of dementia, underpaid their property tax (probably which only went up due to inflation) and then were evicted from properties they have lived for decades in.  For the thousands of years we've had human history, our predecessors would laughing at us for this.


I can understand paying for something like natural gas but the idea of taxing land is dumb.  So is any notion of vacant land or property ownership (adverse possession has been the norm in human history)
2587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russians boycotting US food industry. on: May 25, 2014, 01:41:35 AM
China will eat up Russia just like a cancer the same as they are doing in Africa and some South American companies.
"the yellow race will rule the world" as all the religion books say. Russians tough and brutal, Chinese silent assassin

lol... Russia is too big for China to eat up all at once. Anyway... right now China needs Russia's oil and gas, while Putin needs China's US Dollar reserves. Let's see how far the cooperation goes.  Grin

I don't think China will eat anyone up.  There's money to be made but I doubt any Chinese want to live in Africa or Russia in the long term.  There's areas of China more developed than Russia now.  It's like convincing Americans to goto Guatemala for work.

 There are many Chinese who came to America, Australia and Canada in the 1970s / 1980s and many of their children are now returning to Hong Kong and other Chinese cities - why?  There's more opportunity in China for educated people and more things to do.  Economy is sucking hard in Australia / Americas and all you do is get fat in the suburbs.


Chinese living in Africa?  You do know that Angola is more expensive than China?  Launda is more expensive than Hong Kong (never mind China has tons of cheap cities with good jobs these days).

 What living space?!  A Chinese standard of living is more expensive in Africa than it is in China.  

Mind you it's a Communist Government, maybe they'll chain the Chinese labourers to poles in the cargo holds like it's the slave trade but in reverse.  Grin  
2588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine. on: May 25, 2014, 01:09:01 AM
It's interesting that Pskov, Novgorod states were the republics... Republic -> Autocracy -> Absolute Monarcy -> Republic -> Autocracy -> Absolute Monarchy -> ... Spiral model is in action Roll Eyes

There were a lot of tragic experiments in that area.

Little forgotten but if you thought the Poles were a monster with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, they were serious about the Polish-Lithuanian-Moscow Commonwealth and almost succeeded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian%E2%80%93Muscovite_Commonwealth

Technically it did occur in history when the Tsar was crowned king of Poland, but it could had happened centuries earlier.   End result?  Maybe colonization of the Pacific North West and Australasia (Courland did, supposedly, pursue the latter).  Maybe the Ottomans, Swedes and the Germans would had teamed up on huge Poland-Lithuanian-Moscow Union.   Grin
2589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: May 25, 2014, 12:17:25 AM
Has anyone got a rough idea when NEM will launch yet?

No idea. . Closed alpha has not yet begin. .
2590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: May 25, 2014, 12:10:16 AM
If this is 5 BTC to 10 BTC, then how do I afford to buy more stakes?   Tongue  My personal budget was like $500 per stake.   Cheesy
2591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine. on: May 24, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
Whatever census data may show, it's not important insofar how people themselves identify their belonging. If Ukrainians say they are of Russian ethnicity, then it's good enough for Russians. If people speak the language, feel the culture, have the sense of identity that is Russian, then they are, for all intents and purposes, Russian.


What you describe is assimilation to the state culture and it rests on the assumption that the state can continue to exert that influence.  It's really no different than this 'multiculturalism' in the west.  I see it as a losing proposition since it's a natural development for cultures to shift and evolve.  Not long ago there was no difference between the Dutch and the Germans, but the former descended when they revolted from the Holy Roman Empire and fought off the Hapsburg.

 If Russia itself was a marginal state or the Cossacks were independent then they would frankly stop caring about any 'Russian' identity.  

We all know what the west would do if they invaded Russia, would likely revive forgotten states like Novgorod and the locals there would be heavily propagandized, like the Estonians and Latvians, into thinking they are Nordic and would cease being Russian within 25 years.  Grin  Quarter the Novgorodian women would end up as whores in Czech / German brothels and the quarter the men would be building condos and fixing toilets in Britain.
2592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If kings had discovered anarchocapitalism... on: May 24, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
"If you work hard like me then you can have this too"  Cheesy
2593  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is going to replace neoliberalism? on: May 24, 2014, 10:26:29 PM
An ideology is all rhetorical propaganda and a rehash of an older time tested system.  This "Neoliberalism" you spoke of is largely a contemporary descendent of the Plutocracies we saw in Ancient Greece / Rome and then the Medieval City States.  It wasn't a bad economic system either - you were better off in a classical Plutocracy than in most classical Autocracies (Kingdoms).

What can replace is?  Karl Marx answered your question a long time ago.  We'll essentially see away with the withering of the state and a reversion into a Tribal Society, which Marx himself considered to be 'Primitive Communism'

 (more accurately Communism was supposed to be a modern Tribal Society but real life Communism post-Stalin / post-Mao became a rehash of bureaucratic despotism.  What is this term?  The Directory of Revolutionary France or the strong bureaucratic rule we saw in Chinese history).

Albeit a name, as I said, is all rhetorical propaganda and it wouldn't be called Communist or Anarchist as these are loaded terms which make people crap their pants in fear.  

More likely we'll see a society where there is no government but the internet is the interconnecting medium which handles commerce, justice, laws, et al - in other words, you'ld end up with a contemporary Tribal Society but under a name we don't know yet.  Had Occupy Wall Street succeeded then it would had been "Occupyism" or "Anti-Consumerism"
2594  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evidence of Neo Nazi in Ukrainian military units. on: May 24, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
It's the same in the US military.  While no documented study has been done, I'm going with the assumption that gangmembers and Neo-Nazi make for better soldiers than teenagers looking for tuition telief / uneducated youth who went with the military because it pays more than a McJoB.

2595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine. on: May 24, 2014, 05:32:59 PM
The war here isn't Russians versus Ukrainians.  It's Europhile Ukrainians versus Russophile Ukrainians, between whether to join the European Empire or the Russian Empire.  Things are more complicated when ethnic Ukrainians from Russia, therefore with Russian citizenship, are illegally migrating into the country to fight in this conflict.

Stop posting BS.

1. Yes. The conflict is between the pro-Russian ethnic Ukrainians and the pro-EU ethnic Ukrainians. But it is not as simple as it seems. Differences exists between the Eastern Ukrainians and the Western Ukrainians. The former are closer to the ethnic Russians, while the later are similar to the Poles.

2. A large part of the citizens living in Eastern Ukrainians possess additional Russian passports. This helps them to find work in Russia, where the wages are 4-5 times higher than that in Ukraine.

3. No one is illegally immigrating to Ukraine. The Ukrianian authorities have so far found not even one non-Ukrainian citizen, among the 100+ people who died fighting on the rebel side so far. On the other hand, some 600,000+ Ukrainians have arrived as refugees during the past 2-3 months in Russia.

Alexander Mozhaev (famous bearded militiamen) admitted on camera that he from the Russian Federation, and doesn't have Ukrainian citizenship.  Truckloads of illegals from the Kuban, such as the aforementioned Mozahev, are coming into Ukraine to fight.

These guys may have Russian sounding surnames but almost all of them are admitting to be Kuban Cossacks or from that area, these guys are all pretty much ethnic Ukrainian who are extremely Russophile and even knock down Russian on the census form but history shows they only became Russian in the 1930s.

Who's rooting for Putin to get involved in this?  It's all Ukrainians fighting each other.  Who wants Moscow to be bombed because some 'Mother Russia' types in the Kuban want a bigger backyard?

2596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russians boycotting US food industry. on: May 24, 2014, 05:16:16 PM
The USSR was fairly autonomous during the Cold War, except in agriculture and that was due to scale.  That still largely reigns true today but Russia's wheat import is diversified and most of it is coming from other continents.

Russia's wheat imports? Russia is a net exporter of wheat, and not an importer.



That is a map of trade volume, not production and internal consumption.  What I said, previously, is correct.

http://paulgregorysblog.blogspot.ca/2010/09/mystery-of-russian-grain-exports-its.html

There are other links which I can dig up.  The Russians consume more wheat than they domestically produce.  The reason Russia has export volume in wheat is from reselling wheat (purchased abroad) to the Chinese / Japanese who pay a premium for it.
2597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine. on: May 24, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
There are no Russians in Ukraine anymore - Crimea was the only real area populated by ethnic Russians and it's been re-annexed into Russia.


Your people idea of "Russians" are these ethnically Ukrainian Kuban Cossacks mercenaries who are correctly fighting the Ukrainian Army, but fail to realize that these people are all ethnic Ukrainian.  Kuban Cossacks descend from Zaporozhye Cossacks who were predominately ethnic Ukrainians from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The war here isn't Russians versus Ukrainians.  It's Europhile Ukrainians versus Russophile Ukrainians, between whether to join the European Empire or the Russian Empire.  Things are more complicated when ethnic Ukrainians from Russia, therefore with Russian citizenship, are illegally migrating into the country to fight in this conflict.


Don't ask for me a comment on which is better.  Baltic countries lost 25% of their population, suffer from poverty & unemployment and are reduced to colonies under the EU, samething happened with most Eastern bloc European countries.  

Versus Russian Empire which may give you real jobs & economy but probably suppress your culture.  I'm going with Russia being the lesser evil so far but this is all hypothetical discussion since Putin probably doesn't want more Ukrainians in his country.   A lot of Russians can be upset with Sochi as it is, $50 billion dollars to appease crypto Ukrainians (who scratch Russian on the census form but only as long as the money keeps flowing in).
2598  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russians boycotting US food industry. on: May 24, 2014, 04:45:22 PM
Right now, the sanctions are having zero effect.

Russian trade with EU, US ‘unaffected’ by sanctions — deputy economy minister

http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/732783

Sanctions had no affect on Italy, before WW2.  Likewise Iran and North Korea still stand to this day.

The USSR was fairly autonomous during the Cold War, except in agriculture and that was due to scale.  That still largely reigns true today but Russia's wheat import is diversified and most of it is coming from other continents.
2599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: May 24, 2014, 02:56:21 PM
It's easy to conclude that Darkcoin is a 'pump of the month'.  When Bitcoin enters a stagnation period then money seems to coincidentally pile up on a low capitalization coin and sends it, temporarily, into the stratosphere.

Here are past examples

Aurora
Mint Coin
Vert Coin
Black Coin

We'll have to wait and see if Darkcoin maintains its' capitalization (or goes higher), I'm thinking no.
2600  Economy / Economics / Re: Asia's richest man invests in Bitcoin on: May 24, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
The infrastructure is not something that can disappear - if Bitcoin crashed down to $0, the computers and hardware themselves have some salvageable material cost to them and you'ld still have the network of professionals.  If Bitcoin was replaced by another coin - all it would take is weeks (months) to patch in new code and move onto the next coin.

The merchant argument is a poor argument - some of the 'high notice' merchants for Bitcoin are starting to accept Litecoin and Dogecoin.  In a hypothetical scenario where Bitcoin is supplanted by an alternate, all the merchants and infrastructure would follow ~ there's more loyalty to $Fiat (profit) than to any particular coin.

Although this thread deals in a lot of hypotheticals.  Litecoin is a fork of Bitcoin, Dogecoin is a fork $hitclone meme.  NxT has terrible distribution.  Darkcoin is supposedly 50% premine by the developer and it's a 'pump of the month' (flavour of the month). So I forsee Bitcoin remaining King but it still makes an inferior investment compared to investing in infrastructure.
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