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2581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Started a club for people chasing that get rich quick scheme. on: April 08, 2015, 12:30:43 PM
Looks like you are starting a pump and dump group. Aren't there already enough of that ?
It doesn't usually go the way it is planned and someone with the knowledge of the coin can always dump the coins for personal profits.
its really not rocket science you are making it more difficult than it is.everyone profits.

No rocket science indeed, but a zero sum game
With a leakage of those Exchanger fees. There you have that reason why Bittrex pumps are always done with stupid silly unknown coins that get traded only over there with >98% of worldwide trade volume (open Coinmarketcap webpage on any of their current pumps, flip onto "Markets" tab to see).

you are wrong about everything and it upsets me because i wrote all of that as best as i could and you still misconstrue. I didnt have any coins the idea is everyone buys up at the same time and dumps at the same time. Look,I'm not going to teach you how to count,as i said in the post this wasnt a thread to converse on and share opinion if you are interested message me if not move on. And yeah after trading for a week,whats the big idea what is it with you guys putting emphasis on that? Its irrelevant all that matters is the money I am making,and all i can tell you is i have no losses. Anyway,that is your reply after this I'm not going to bother you anymore.

While dumping, "at the same time" there is still somebody needed to buy into these dumps. Zero sum game. There's your research work to be done in your third week of gathering trading experience.
Be welcome to Altcoin World. There are some real coin projects developing a new economy from scratch, and some money to be gained from investing into the right ones. Good luck.
2582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 07, 2015, 01:11:44 AM

Ready to rrrruumble Grin just where do they take XMR for sport bets? How are the odds?
Aaaand iron horse shoes inside boxing gloves are illegal throughout one half of europe, as I do remember.
You want to meet inside the other half.

2583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Started a club for people chasing that get rich quick scheme. on: April 06, 2015, 02:56:40 PM
After trading for a week...
Ya man...

Solid trading experience. There isn't so much to learn in altcoin markets, anyway.

Pump and dump group! I wonder where is the ppl, who will buy the pumped coins especially in this bear market!

Must be lonely as only pumper.
2584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 06, 2015, 02:27:06 PM
code, donate or STFU

code, donate or STFU

code, donate or STFU

 Cheesy

For your reading interest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1013545.msg10994870#msg10994870

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lets detect all the nemstake scammers and fork up dem asses

2585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 05, 2015, 07:26:17 PM
So ChainRadar has "broken Monero's anonymity" by what exactly?
By listing UNMIXED transactions as ... "broken anonymity" ... seriously?
And that along with an orchestrated sell off and some provocations from a Troll with a DASH donations address inside signature made me sell out some DASH buying XMR instead - for a very good price.
   
Doh! That was originally not intended for Easter Day's action.
2586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 05, 2015, 11:43:51 AM
it goes to where it was...RIP my Monero, see u.....

RIP my good coin : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1PXRiVoJw

huhuhuhuhuhuhuuh.....slow but will die
please pray for XMR by singing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1PXRiVoJw

Not really persuasive. Perhaps time to dump some DASH to grab cheap XMR? See what you caused just now?
Seems like you are unable to break throught that 52.10769185 BTC Buy Wall, sucker.

edit: or this
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kLee: wall at 2850 gone
DustOff: looks like whales have pulled XMR buy walls and want it to go down
2587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 05, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Feeling a little off the track now Sad

1. The project seems to be stalled. Back in september fluffy said 6 weeks is the maximum time needed to get the db out. I am yet to find how to use it, im sure half of the people here are only able to use monero because of mymonero.

2. Without a usable client, the speculation thread is a joke, new people are not entering and we are buying and selling between ourselves.

3. The quality of posts has gone down a lot for dev 'smooth' He does not feel like a dev at all, constantly arguing with other coin people when it will clearly bear no fruit. Can anybody change our opinion about Monero? No, then how can we change someone else's?

Feels like this is going nowhere, its been an year and we have what? a db to put the chain off RAM? Please dont pull out that donation card on me, Satoshi, BCNext worked without donations even because they believed in themselves. Does our dev team has such confidence? Or are they doing just a task in their pass time as a hobby?

The devs owe us nothing but there is a reason they are the leaders, i dont see any passion

my two millinero

Oh my, Monero keeps melting down. -19.07% just right now.

edit: -20.47%

edit: well should have guessed in advance, disturbances like this always cause bigger movements
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XMR deposits and withdrawals have resumed.
Posted by busoni@poloniex at 2015-04-03 19:01:20
2588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 05, 2015, 10:19:42 AM
XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct

This is ancient history, but I happened to be reading the Poloniex trollbox when Polo-BCX made some kind of vague threat and was challenged to prove he was Bitcointalk-BitcoinEXpress. "BitcoinEXpress" then posted to the XMR trolling thread, establishing his identity, and then quickly deleted that post. (I saw the post when it first appeared, satisfying the Poloniex trolls, and then noted that it was gone). Poloniex was soon thereafter DDOS'd and some of us speculated that BCX was thereby in legal jeopardy as the prime suspect for a cyber-crime. My impression was that Polo-BCX since then has taken pains to create the impression that he was not identical to BitcoinEXpress.

Obviously, nicks can be sold and it's hard to know what has happened since then, but I'm quite sure that at the time of the DDOS, Polo-BCX was BitcoinEXpress.

Those like the above are history parts hard to discover. Noted, Quoted, Bookmarked, thank you very much.
2589  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: April 05, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Was wäre denn bei einer PoS-Version von Bitcoin damals passiert mit MtGox?
Wohl das Gleiche was nach dem VRC Hack auf Mintpal damals passierte --> Rollback --> Vertrauensverlust--> Preisverfall Grin
Gar nichts wäre passiert, weil die Verteilung der Coins eine ganz andere gewesen wäre. Die riesigen Investitionen, die in Mining-Farmen getätigt wurden, wären bei POS direkt in den Ankauf von Coins geflossen. Die Miner, die ihre geschürften Coins zur Bezahlung ihrer Stromkosten bei MtGox dumpen mussten, wären stattdessen Stakeholder geworden und hätten hodlen können.

+1

...obwohl so wie es mit POW Mining lief war es für Karpeles ja doch durchaus viel lukrativer.

Man darf hier nicht Äpfel und Birnen vergleichen. Ich glaube das grundsätzliche Problem bei der Diskussion ob es eine Alternative zu Proof-Of-Work gibt, ist ein psychologisches. Wenn man jahrelange Bitcoin-Erfahrung hat und vielleicht schon selber in Mining investiert hat, ist man davon "geprägt" und man hat eine Schranke im Kopf. Versteht mich nicht falsch, ich habe selber mehrer Asic-Miner gehabt und verstehe die Faszination an einer "Geld-Druck-Maschine", aber in Zukunft brauchen wir ein besseres System. Proof-Of-Work hat sich überlebt, nur weiß keiner beim Bitcoin, wie man elegant und sicher daraus aussteigt.

Das kann ja auch ein sanfter Umstieg werden. Preisparität mit einem Nachfolgekandidaten und dann über Handel. Ich schaue ja auch auf "Sidechains" vielleicht bietet Bitcoin ja seinen eigenen Nachfolgekandidaten bald selbst an.

Auf die Trägheitsmomente der Investitionen in Mining-Farmen kann ich mich nicht verlassen. Wenn die Konzentration am Markt da erst einmal so weit fortgeschritten ist, das nur noch ein kleines Kartell alle Miner besitzt, heist das nicht, das deren Coins noch einen Wert bekommen oder irgendwo Abnehmer finden müssen. Die dafür teuer zahlen. An der Stelle kann es auch eine punktgenaue Bruchlandung geben, also der unsanfte Umstieg passieren.
2590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 05, 2015, 12:44:07 AM
However...  to bring us back to doom and gloom...  If we break under 3275 or so with some strength...  then.. um...

Eek?

Eek! 17.5 BTC can move Monero -10% down. Not so funny.
2591  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: April 04, 2015, 11:46:28 PM

Zeitweilig, sicherlich. Dürfte aber eine Gelegenheit sein zwei Dinge günstiger zu bekommen:

1) BTC

2) Life Time Membership in der bitcoinfoundation.org  Wink
2592  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: April 04, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
Bitcoin inflationiär? Welchen Teil von ,,21*10^6'' und ,,Block Halving'' hast du nicht verstanden?

Die Inflation am Tag HEUTE für Bitcoin lässt sich genau beziffern, 6 Blöcke die Stunde á 25 BTC macht diese 3600 BTC am Tag aus. Das ist durchaus Inflationär für jemanden der selber nur (Beispielsweise) 1500 BTC besitzt.

Irgendwo gab es das als Prozente pro Monat hochgerechnet. Glaube (aus der Erinnerung) das Litecoin eine höhere Inflation als Bitcoin hat, und DOGE eine niedrigere. Andere POW Alts haben nicht so die Bedeutung vom Marktvolumen.

Lincoln6Echo du klammerst dich da an den Top #1 Mythos vom Bitcoin, das der Deflationär sei. Das gilt theoretisch, in der Zukunft, und dafür müsste der Bitcoin eine Zukunft erst einmal haben. 2014 sah es ja nicht so aus.
(#2 war "anonymes Internet Geld" und #3 "selber Minen")
2593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 04, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
In Polo trollbox the guys are trolling that Monero has some technical issues.
There is nowhere else for them to run, their arguments were promptly debunked here, the mass dump panicking failed and the moneroj is once again in stronger hands.

Still bystanders could experience this as pump&dump group action on a coin with stalled development, accompanied by way to much noise surrounding it. Is it true?
2594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do most known experts and widly-respected posters prefer PoW over PoS & PoI? on: April 04, 2015, 06:21:55 PM

Market does not accept meaningfull work that actually does some worthy results, that was exactly the goal of utilising BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing is an open source middleware system for volunteer and grid computing) in GRC Gridcoin. Daily trade volume like thirty bucks, rejected.
I'm interested in this, but I don't see how BOINC has the properties needed to secure a cryptocurrency.  I think a lot of people saw possible problems with it and stayed away.  How did Gridcoin manage the problems involved?  

Pure POS only for the coin. POW mining comes on top for reward distribution. They are inside the transition process, was pure SCRYTP mining before, POW to secure the blockchain.

Many altcoin scams have burned the POW-to-POS transition by doing a week of mining, a week of pumping, some more days of dumping and then folding down all operations. That has caused some serious trust deficits in the markets.

At least if Bitcoin goes POS one day, nobody can say that mining periode was to short.
2595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 04, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
I still think Monero will replace Bitcoin as a number one 1 crypto. Even I have talked to some people who bought directly Monero... They bought bitcoins only in order to buy Monero so I think people will prefer Monero over btc thanks to privacy features. Lack of anonymity seems to be a major setback of bitcoin in many people's opinion. Monero fixes it.
Bitcoin will not disappear but just looses its significance. Just my speculation.  Cheesy

Doesn't catch it completely. Bitcoin entered the public stage with a number of exspections

1) beeing private internet money
2) mineable at home, by any means (was "everybody" in the former, later "people who been able to grab specialized hardware")

It is more like "disgraced love" by now. You cannot mine BTC, nor can you buy into some Ponzi-Cloudmining service (unless you are insane, then no barriers can hold). As a result, buy support for BTC isn't in it's best shape, more declining steadily.

Monero has to make a point in fullfilling both exspectations, meaning some sort of Dark Net market acceptance and ASIC resistance. Then "investor" type of people would take a closer look at it, too.
2596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][2] Developments & Discussions on: April 04, 2015, 12:22:16 PM
Just curious, how come you guys aren't on Poloniex exchange?
Just now requested officially.
They will not (at least not in the past) list drug related coins... legal or illegal wise... it doesnt matter  Wink

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_pot <- POTcoin

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_ccn <- Cannacoin

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_uro <- the real shit

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_silk <- SilkCoin *coughs* *cough*
2597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptsy FUCK YOU on: April 04, 2015, 12:02:44 PM
LOL they are a pain at crapsy

*g* that nick sticked. They are only Craptsy now. "Your perfect side for quick arbitrage trades"
2598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do most known experts and widly-respected posters prefer PoW over PoS & PoI? on: April 04, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
The experts understand that PoW is exactly what the name says: a proof that a certain amount of work has been done. Just like Gold the vast amount is dug up for no other reason as to be buried again in some vault. If you dig a ditch you can proof your work too and want to get paid.

PoS is nothing new people have been proofing there stake on the stock market for hundreds of years. The issue with PoS coins is that there will be forever new once popping up at no significant disadvantage to existing PoS coins on the market. It will be endlessly diluted. With PoW this is not the case as new once can not compete with existing PoW coins due to inflation and other things.

This issues will sort itself out with time. The more time passes the more understand this, not only the experts.

Fast forward and you will  see: PoW more proven work has been done and with PoS, more coins on the market.
With PoW coins you have to look what the individual coins potential is to do "work", some are handicapped.

Market does not accept meaningfull work that actually does some worthy results, that was exactly the goal of utilising BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing is an open source middleware system for volunteer and grid computing) in GRC Gridcoin. Daily trade volume like thirty bucks, rejected.
2599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More" on: April 04, 2015, 08:54:05 AM
Feel free to write a program that interfaces with the NEM client which automatically sends ...

Write it yourself, or shut up.
2600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do most known experts and widly-respected posters prefer PoW over PoS & PoI? on: April 04, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
Why almost all renowned Crypto Currency and Crypto Finance experts [incl. most widly-respected BCT-posters] prefer PoW as consensus algorithm?


Without beeing directly adressed myself I would nonetheless venture into giving an answer: Data trails left.

If you have your wallet staking 24/7 you will leave behind a huuge backlog of your adresses, funds, IP used to stay connected to the network. Maybe someone more technically inclined can explain to us why a network based on POW, ruled by two or three mining pool cartell chiefs and probably even five to ten top notch miners (who are dependant upon one ASIC manufactorer) is a better place for Joe Sixpack to hide when buying weed online.
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