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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: September 21, 2017, 03:09:17 PM
Big question?

We now can see majority of Mne gen addresses are held by a single or very few people.... Knowing this is where Mne comes by being mined daily, those same people will easily be able to manipulate the "mining" of this new project dynerium...... Wouldn't it be a better choice to choose a coin that isn't continuously being dropped into the hand Of a few and pick a coin that has already been distributed to market....
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 21, 2017, 12:59:06 PM
Easy. Is it Devs Addresses? He comes here addmits that he used this for funding or he says they arent his adds.

Either way this adds must be deleted because this accounts already dumped enough at ATH and will have ARTE gens Adds to dump even more.

The owner of this 816 Adds unloaded like 80k Mne near ATH thats $800k.

To the guys in telegram saying we should roll or eyes on this is outrageous, this ammount of money without any explanation is a big scam.

Alittle wrong here... The owner of the 816 address is not linked to anything besides around 200k Mne into arte... That's it...

The other address that are linked to even more being sent to livecoin... Thousands of gen address and We are talking millions of $$$ to a single person...
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 21, 2017, 05:21:18 AM
WARNING
 LONG POST, please read until the end before making a decision...... also please read with an open mind set..

I'm no way saying this project is a scam... the information i'm about to provide is details i believe we should've all known, that we should've been told about from the beginning. With the lack of communication from the dev, its apon the community to find crucial details that should be made public. I'm about to provide some addresses that are of concern and explain my findings so everyone can see for themselves.

I'm going to start with an obvious one alot of people noticed during the first day of ico.
0x03b7c8d1f3974565150cf15d15543e1af59a0e85
here is an address that was used to fund eth (gas) to 816 gen. addresses then, all those addresses sent all there mne to ico... all instantly by using a bot. you do the math 816 addresses all 243mne thats around 200k mne into ico during last hour of day one.... best thing yet all addresses were completely inactive before this......

that is an easy one to see.. all it shows is someone has 816 addresses, never used it until last hour of day one ico and decided to dump into the arte

now we are getting alot more complex..... 36 days ago a bot pulled all the unused eth(gas) from over 5k addresses... that is the link.... now within those 5k addresses you will find hundreds of what i call "burner" addresses... these regular eth addresses group mne gen addresses together to send a larger amount of mne to certain places...this now links thousands of gen addresses to a single person.. how many to be exact, idk i cant keep count nor do i want to spend the time but everything provided below will be linked to that same address that collected the eth...

here is the address used to collect eth
0xaae9df016092cefde18f3918a9a73ad8fe0eb1a0

here are some burner addresses that have large amounts mne from gen address
0x77612c9da071b4481a4e1bdd9c614c6472b749b6
0xF032CE9B154be7329C4c7C8F0031D15aeff451ee
0xFE0208942675E3e0c5D12742ea8abaeA8F48F81F
0xabEa2b2beCC4c7335F0E5ee937214311AD795333
0x2DA502D602EbA3a656222fC861947a29771F3bAa
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x971c5f32b2625f1b781291f082B722c82803403C
0x5D14F6F0A094c6706dd0A73aC889AA448E51017D


here is an address used to dump into live coin right as mne hit ath..... this also ties 100 gen addresses together
0xaE641Cc64f35AE1C3E0eD58D03Fea4885dfC307F

here is a burner address used for mne durning ATH and also arte ICO.... another 170 address linked together
0xcede51a076712196dcab014742616ac65e56673f

wonder why mne hit a low right when ico hit.. here is an addy sent to livecoin right before ico
0xcea94e97bd00dcadc94b13cfa2bbc1932e88b5a5

second day of ico???
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61

just not large amount of gen addresses pair... even smaller amounts to hide the link...
0xe603CB1fAd1f5Eb0B62CB48bF0049a9E803e5A22
0xe20c2ec41b6881ddc1e43602063c6cf3ff2876d8

another big burner address being sent to livecoin
0xf032ce9b154be7329c4c7c8f0031d15aeff451ee

what do all these have in common?Huh look at the eth transaction... 36 days ago a bot took the left over eth out and sent to a single address.... all of these are linked together by that address..... and thats not even close to it.... what about the first deposits into livecoin....first addresses to deposit were all from a single source... dont believe me... check for yourself
0xe2f9484c422f393dc48d791e8cf1d17aa9713995
0x217EE4aFC8F8c0bB57075273ac2C264202305E12
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0x1545d607723ffDe90B79b786b2cDe7277a79F5F8
0x4AA8252e42e1d41b41Fec1D368Ce17c98A808802
0xF0019be307F7756e45d6bfB0F5cc4BA2500274d8
0xc6e7853B83709e716aADD4B2b4c4CB51Bf8cf4cd
 0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x1624e4Afa6642D533A56DD5e97Cebc54dE9cC2eD
 0x7d08e8851DDA46C27bEefe3b644520A9a3Bc228E
0xB3a6b21ECc8eC69eE66FC26a77fa624A8c8126f9
0xa61Ab4398B9Ec923Ba02c575d97a9Cd86D390d7f
0x30c72242EaC5a89e8a5613F7c0CA872aF08176e2
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xf280De47b474E1eAA942ae539Dd9Be570d43Ec1E
0x3f2700b9D800096f598736b643891CD74816CC98
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0x57D626c7a3a100A9C659601D3bd073225F3D43f3
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0xED4F292bb7f85ccEB564613bebA41D5306f0E2fd
 0x8b092Af6dc3cA8654b00186CEEae2C0197B02deE
 0xb718Be046D4E6302eee08a06F65B9C1778C227FE
0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x15dc6BeBBD91AE7B96c0D0e5671539470b026611
0xE7689B56aD80D1834C6DCB2105A14A4Ca30b17e9
0x00d0c98ed04dec0cffe571a9deed871feabc34f6
 0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x7b247822De8763C3CDa86b5680E14f3A20B78B98    
0x77612C9Da071b4481a4E1bdD9c614C6472B749B6
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x8fD10Ac278badB13a2e296f2EEe06bfCDcCa9378
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0x00D0C98ed04DEC0cFFe571A9DeeD871feAbC34F6
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x396BD4FB0708A847298e7C32CFc1c91F342Eb5A5
0xa459DCED416eFAdcecfa3A0E8bA99Dcad358EdcD   -------1 coin deposits
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x28B5Bd9dE137342240E0A404d6F13a7a3121c415
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xfcD9309aB791F1aB6cda79c1EDe24E8B342Fad2D
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0x9b6A2FAB03D506BEd470D7Fea67D23E53E52DDeC



wanna take some more research yourself... go to mne gen address list... pick ANY random address and i bet MOST will link to the ETH addresses i provided

i said most.. why??? a few reasons... like the first example i gave you... those 816 addresses dont link.. why... they were inactive 36 days ago... also one more address that doesnt link but has 128 addresses in a single burner address ready to be sent....
0xC40B312169c7F8d93679EF1E91da989693cB5f93

all this really shows is that 1 person might have close to all of the mne gen addresses... or maybe a few people have almost all of them.... more money for the project some might say.. i dont really care... what im trying to give you is the information you HAVENT been given.... please look around and tell me what i missed
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: September 20, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Without Considering Genesis addresses, there are only few accounts hold MNE on 30th September, 2017.  Because all MNE going to ARTE ICO,  And all those MNE are burn.

It's very simple what they are trying to do.... All the Mne that hasn't been sent to ico are in the hands of two kinds of people
1. The dev
2. People holding untill they get their money back


By creating this new dynerium, it's going to get people to take their coins off the exchanges, since they won't invest Into the ico..
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 20, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
Just to get this straight, how many artemines do I get per 10 MNE?
You can chech their website on the ICO page,
https://artemine.org/crowdsale/
It varies every week, early investors as usual get more than late investors.

Right now you'd get 500 Art for the price of 16,5$.

I think the price is a steal when you consider that 1 Ethereum is priced at $289 currently as compared to $16 that 10mMNE tokens worth.

I think the designed by the team was wrong, which to me is still thesame MNE richlist that will be ART big holders

The design was to get all mne on the market into the arte ico..... Mne will go back to the way it started and that's with all the gen addresses (dev) in control of the supply 
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 20, 2017, 07:00:55 AM
Wow over 3600 coins buy wall at hitbtc,what a nice whale we got there,but still 34000s is kind of low price..

Well, 3200 coins sell wall in Livecoin, looks like somebody wants to get out big time

Don't blame the guy
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: September 20, 2017, 06:25:34 AM
1. DYNERIUM is rewarded to addresses that has MNE sitting for 2 weeks. You need to keep MNE in the address. If you move it out, then mining stops. You can move MNE anytime to an address. When a snapshot is taken, DYNERIUM checks for the coinage of 2 weeks, if not, then it will simply disqualify it. You will be eligible in future snapshots when your MNE are about 2 weeks old.

2. As DYNERIUM snapshots at random intervals, it ensures new addresses eligible to receive rewards and removes addresses that moved their MNE out.

3. You should have any non-zero MNE balance to get DYNERIUM.

4. Mining a sha, scrypt coin requires you to throw some hash. The more hash you throw, the more coins you mine. Similarly, you require MNE to mine DYNERIUM, the more MNE you hold, the more DYNERIUM you mine.

5. Artemine ICO burn address is excluded from Dynerium.

6. Dynerium is not intended to increase the price of the MNE. It has a different purpose.

7. The Roadmap will be posted later.

8. Snapshot will be taken on September 30, 2017.

Example Mining

A:

Block reward is 10
You hold 100 MNE
There are a number of eligible addresses with non-zero MNE balance - total MNE - 200000
Reward for each MNE = block reward/ total MNE = 10/200000 = 0.00005
You get, Reward per MNE*number of MNE you hold = 0.00005*100 = 0.005 per block.

B:

Next Snapshot occurs. There are addresses that moved MNE out and new addresses have MNE.
Total number of MNE is recalculated and function A: is executed. The loop continues.

I do believe I have answered to all the questions raised so far. I will update Token Specs, Signature Campaign in few hours.



It seems interesting... I'm moving all my MNE from an exchange to my wallet   Wink

I think that's exactly what he wants you to do!!!!!
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 11:30:00 PM

Who cares? they deliver on the development and that's all that matters. If you put the time in to make some crypto magic happen then you should expect to see some income from it, it's obvious that they aren't loq or some other asshole that's going to crash the market and bail because they aren't bright enough to see that long term yields more money than the quick buck mentality so really how about instead of wasting time worrying about how much the Dev is making and put that effort into marketing or something...

None of us are wasting time worrying how much the dev is making. I don't care if he makes 1.000 or 100.000 a month, as long as he is doing good work. What I am worried about is A. we have no idea who the devs are, B. if they can flood the market causing a massive dump, and C. whether or not they are considering expanding their roadmaps and having both coins work together.

As investors we have the right to ask questions, I'm not one to bury my head in the sand, if I was I wouldn't have made so much money working in this market.

Why would an ath hit after the burn.... Why would that make people by then instead of now?  Just because dev burned the coins like he said....Huh Idk I think something has to come out for Mne to pump

A & B are complete non-issues for me, however, C is a really big item to be addressed in the coming months.  I think the community for MNE and ARTE deserves an extended road-map and the relationship between the two tokens to be elaborated on.  I have always defended the fact that this project is good, yet underdeveloped, but we need to see some focus in 2018 with clear targets and less ambiguity about the direction of the two projects.  Simply stating there's a genesis address exchange and ICO factory is not enough, there should be more specific targets and definitely more marketing prowess, I see nothing about this dev wanting to pursue partnerships with other projects when in fact this will be vital in the coming developments.  Regardless, I'm betting the dev continues to progress the projects and expecting big things next year!!

well Loq is an asshole lol, I like the guy but his dump the market to zero in an hour thing shows his lack of experience and balls. So far the Dev has done what he says he's gong to do so when he burns the coins the supply will be halved and proof that his word means something at the same time so we should in theory see a new Ath...in theory lol
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 19, 2017, 09:45:45 PM
mne has some use still , artemine ico still long way to go...

True, so far they raised about 2.750 ETH, which is quite good considering the small community

112.24 eth so far

about 548.000MNE, which equals 2.750ETH. But indeed 112.24 eth directly

I think I'm mistaking your .

2750 Eth make sense... Not 2 point 750
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 09:43:16 PM
Just to get this straight, how many artemines do I get per 10 MNE?

500 if sent right now

Thanks, I guess I missed the 1000 per 10 MNE a few days ago eh?

Yes, but with mne half the price it was a few days ago it's just about the same $$$ value to invest
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 19, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
mne has some use still , artemine ico still long way to go...

True, so far they raised about 2.750 ETH, which is quite good considering the small community

112.24 eth so far
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 19, 2017, 09:35:06 PM
mne has some use still , artemine ico still long way to go...

True, so far they raised about 2.750 ETH, which is quite good considering the small community

2.750 Eth..... Your way off
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 09:33:38 PM
Just to get this straight, how many artemines do I get per 10 MNE?

500 if sent right now
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 09:33:05 PM
Hi All,

We will burn the first received MNEs in the ICO in the next few days! The received MNEs are currently worth around $1 Million (~50% of MNE's supply).

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1a95b271b0535d15fa49932daba31ba612b52946?a=0xcf24fa5606bbe4dab3ba24cb586b4353fe83094a

The ICO will continue as normal and we will periodically burn the next received tokens.

The MNEs will be sent to the Minereum Token Creation Service (will be automatically burned) and an Ethereum Token will be generated out of it.

We may use this created token just for Minereum/Artemine fans, we are not sure yet.

We may create a vote here on bitcointalk for the community to decide what to do with it, after all, the creation of this token will be worth about $1 Million.

More updates soon, stay tuned!

I wouldn't create another token, cause that'll take time away from developing Minereum and Artemine. No one would blame you if you sold like 50.000MNE on the exchanges so that you could list both coins on bigger exchanges, start a global marketing campaign, develop the lottery/world app, ...

Lmao, but dev has already sent thousands apon thousands to exchanges and has been collecting btc without our knowledge....  And no not Mne from the ico. He has dumped Mne, as he owns almost all the supply

What are you talking about? Minereum devs are not Artemien devs, this was communicated already?

And this is obviously a gimmik account.... Look at all your post.. Don't make it so obvious

Eventhough they're different devs, they still work together, they're sistercompanies. Also, does anyone truly believe the devs don't hold genesis addresses? They need to pay for the entire development of two unique platforms, but yeah sure they're doing it out of their own pockets, lol. I don't have a problem with the devs holding genesis addresses and selling the coins on exchanges to be honest, but a lot of people don't seem to realise this obvious fact.

But the question is... How many addresses do you think is fair that they hold? 10% 40% 90%???

I think enough to support himself and a few teammembers, so probably around 1000, which is 3.2%.

There is only around 4200 gen address... Not 32k... That's how many coins each address with mine over the years

Damn kinda got those numbers mixed up there Smiley well if thats the case they might have less, I figured they had a team of 10 members, and they wanted to make 100% sure they could sustain themselves even if prices dropped to 0.5$. That's how I got to 1000 addresses. Now i think that's a little much, maybe 500 or something, really guessing here

What would be your opinion if they had thousands of those addresses.... Like pretty much almost all of the addresses?

It wouldn't bother me that much, as 600K of MNE was invested in the Art ICO, in which I also invested the majority of my MNE holdings. Of course it's a possibility, but the Minereum devs always felt really sincere so I don't think they'd keep most of the addresses if they say they distributed them. Now, if word got out they did have most of the addresses, prices would plummet and ART would collapse as no one wants to buy coins that are so easily manipulated and centralized

Basically there would need to be proof linking the gen address together...... Also if Mne dev has all the gen address they probably will hold most of the arte as well...

Is there any way to really be sure?

Well everything is on the blockchain.... The blockchain doesn't lie.. So if they made a mistake and somehow linked all there addresses to one then it might be provable

Who cares? they deliver on the development and that's all that matters. If you put the time in to make some crypto magic happen then you should expect to see some income from it, it's obvious that they aren't loq or some other asshole that's going to crash the market and bail because they aren't bright enough to see that long term yields more money than the quick buck mentality so really how about instead of wasting time worrying about how much the Dev is making and put that effort into marketing or something...

Funny how you say some asshole that won't crash the market...... Yet Mne did what exactly?  Lmao see what I mean... Even you know it but might not realize it
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: September 19, 2017, 09:30:16 PM
It's not mining, it's staking.

There's no actual mining work being done by participants, they just get rewarded with more coins if they hold.

This.  I'm guessing that this is a ploy to increase the price of MNE as people will want the "free" Dynerium they get if they buy MNE and hold it for a couple of weeks.  I mean, what else does this token DO?

Mne is being used for a big ico at the moment..... Should get some Mne and join in
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: September 19, 2017, 09:28:26 PM
So was the first snapshot already taken?  If so when ?
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
Hi All,

We will burn the first received MNEs in the ICO in the next few days! The received MNEs are currently worth around $1 Million (~50% of MNE's supply).

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1a95b271b0535d15fa49932daba31ba612b52946?a=0xcf24fa5606bbe4dab3ba24cb586b4353fe83094a

The ICO will continue as normal and we will periodically burn the next received tokens.

The MNEs will be sent to the Minereum Token Creation Service (will be automatically burned) and an Ethereum Token will be generated out of it.

We may use this created token just for Minereum/Artemine fans, we are not sure yet.

We may create a vote here on bitcointalk for the community to decide what to do with it, after all, the creation of this token will be worth about $1 Million.

More updates soon, stay tuned!

I wouldn't create another token, cause that'll take time away from developing Minereum and Artemine. No one would blame you if you sold like 50.000MNE on the exchanges so that you could list both coins on bigger exchanges, start a global marketing campaign, develop the lottery/world app, ...

Lmao, but dev has already sent thousands apon thousands to exchanges and has been collecting btc without our knowledge....  And no not Mne from the ico. He has dumped Mne, as he owns almost all the supply

What are you talking about? Minereum devs are not Artemien devs, this was communicated already?

And this is obviously a gimmik account.... Look at all your post.. Don't make it so obvious

Eventhough they're different devs, they still work together, they're sistercompanies. Also, does anyone truly believe the devs don't hold genesis addresses? They need to pay for the entire development of two unique platforms, but yeah sure they're doing it out of their own pockets, lol. I don't have a problem with the devs holding genesis addresses and selling the coins on exchanges to be honest, but a lot of people don't seem to realise this obvious fact.

But the question is... How many addresses do you think is fair that they hold? 10% 40% 90%???

I think enough to support himself and a few teammembers, so probably around 1000, which is 3.2%.

There is only around 4200 gen address... Not 32k... That's how many coins each address with mine over the years

Damn kinda got those numbers mixed up there Smiley well if thats the case they might have less, I figured they had a team of 10 members, and they wanted to make 100% sure they could sustain themselves even if prices dropped to 0.5$. That's how I got to 1000 addresses. Now i think that's a little much, maybe 500 or something, really guessing here

What would be your opinion if they had thousands of those addresses.... Like pretty much almost all of the addresses?

It wouldn't bother me that much, as 600K of MNE was invested in the Art ICO, in which I also invested the majority of my MNE holdings. Of course it's a possibility, but the Minereum devs always felt really sincere so I don't think they'd keep most of the addresses if they say they distributed them. Now, if word got out they did have most of the addresses, prices would plummet and ART would collapse as no one wants to buy coins that are so easily manipulated and centralized

Basically there would need to be proof linking the gen address together...... Also if Mne dev has all the gen address they probably will hold most of the arte as well...

Is there any way to really be sure?

Well everything is on the blockchain.... The blockchain doesn't lie.. So if they made a mistake and somehow linked all there addresses to one then it might be provable
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 07:56:58 PM
Hi All,

We will burn the first received MNEs in the ICO in the next few days! The received MNEs are currently worth around $1 Million (~50% of MNE's supply).

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1a95b271b0535d15fa49932daba31ba612b52946?a=0xcf24fa5606bbe4dab3ba24cb586b4353fe83094a

The ICO will continue as normal and we will periodically burn the next received tokens.

The MNEs will be sent to the Minereum Token Creation Service (will be automatically burned) and an Ethereum Token will be generated out of it.

We may use this created token just for Minereum/Artemine fans, we are not sure yet.

We may create a vote here on bitcointalk for the community to decide what to do with it, after all, the creation of this token will be worth about $1 Million.

More updates soon, stay tuned!

I wouldn't create another token, cause that'll take time away from developing Minereum and Artemine. No one would blame you if you sold like 50.000MNE on the exchanges so that you could list both coins on bigger exchanges, start a global marketing campaign, develop the lottery/world app, ...

Lmao, but dev has already sent thousands apon thousands to exchanges and has been collecting btc without our knowledge....  And no not Mne from the ico. He has dumped Mne, as he owns almost all the supply

What are you talking about? Minereum devs are not Artemien devs, this was communicated already?

And this is obviously a gimmik account.... Look at all your post.. Don't make it so obvious

Eventhough they're different devs, they still work together, they're sistercompanies. Also, does anyone truly believe the devs don't hold genesis addresses? They need to pay for the entire development of two unique platforms, but yeah sure they're doing it out of their own pockets, lol. I don't have a problem with the devs holding genesis addresses and selling the coins on exchanges to be honest, but a lot of people don't seem to realise this obvious fact.

But the question is... How many addresses do you think is fair that they hold? 10% 40% 90%???

I think enough to support himself and a few teammembers, so probably around 1000, which is 3.2%.

There is only around 4200 gen address... Not 32k... That's how many coins each address with mine over the years

Damn kinda got those numbers mixed up there Smiley well if thats the case they might have less, I figured they had a team of 10 members, and they wanted to make 100% sure they could sustain themselves even if prices dropped to 0.5$. That's how I got to 1000 addresses. Now i think that's a little much, maybe 500 or something, really guessing here

What would be your opinion if they had thousands of those addresses.... Like pretty much almost all of the addresses?

It wouldn't bother me that much, as 600K of MNE was invested in the Art ICO, in which I also invested the majority of my MNE holdings. Of course it's a possibility, but the Minereum devs always felt really sincere so I don't think they'd keep most of the addresses if they say they distributed them. Now, if word got out they did have most of the addresses, prices would plummet and ART would collapse as no one wants to buy coins that are so easily manipulated and centralized

Basically there would need to be proof linking the gen address together...... Also if Mne dev has all the gen address they probably will hold most of the arte as well...
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 07:47:40 PM
Hi All,

We will burn the first received MNEs in the ICO in the next few days! The received MNEs are currently worth around $1 Million (~50% of MNE's supply).

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1a95b271b0535d15fa49932daba31ba612b52946?a=0xcf24fa5606bbe4dab3ba24cb586b4353fe83094a

The ICO will continue as normal and we will periodically burn the next received tokens.

The MNEs will be sent to the Minereum Token Creation Service (will be automatically burned) and an Ethereum Token will be generated out of it.

We may use this created token just for Minereum/Artemine fans, we are not sure yet.

We may create a vote here on bitcointalk for the community to decide what to do with it, after all, the creation of this token will be worth about $1 Million.

More updates soon, stay tuned!

I wouldn't create another token, cause that'll take time away from developing Minereum and Artemine. No one would blame you if you sold like 50.000MNE on the exchanges so that you could list both coins on bigger exchanges, start a global marketing campaign, develop the lottery/world app, ...

Lmao, but dev has already sent thousands apon thousands to exchanges and has been collecting btc without our knowledge....  And no not Mne from the ico. He has dumped Mne, as he owns almost all the supply

What are you talking about? Minereum devs are not Artemien devs, this was communicated already?

And this is obviously a gimmik account.... Look at all your post.. Don't make it so obvious

No answer, all right! If you think they are the same you could elaborate. But sure, you'll know it all.

I never said either MNE or ARTE devs don't hold MNE Genesis addresses but you made it sound like they will just artificially pump MNE. Which makes no sense if they then would send so many MNE to the ARTE crowdsale...


Which makes no sense if they then would send so many MNE to the ARTE crowdsale...


Huh?


What if they did send a lot of Mne to art?  What if they still are! Lol

And let's face it... Your a gimmik.. Give it up already
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Hi All,

We will burn the first received MNEs in the ICO in the next few days! The received MNEs are currently worth around $1 Million (~50% of MNE's supply).

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1a95b271b0535d15fa49932daba31ba612b52946?a=0xcf24fa5606bbe4dab3ba24cb586b4353fe83094a

The ICO will continue as normal and we will periodically burn the next received tokens.

The MNEs will be sent to the Minereum Token Creation Service (will be automatically burned) and an Ethereum Token will be generated out of it.

We may use this created token just for Minereum/Artemine fans, we are not sure yet.

We may create a vote here on bitcointalk for the community to decide what to do with it, after all, the creation of this token will be worth about $1 Million.

More updates soon, stay tuned!

I wouldn't create another token, cause that'll take time away from developing Minereum and Artemine. No one would blame you if you sold like 50.000MNE on the exchanges so that you could list both coins on bigger exchanges, start a global marketing campaign, develop the lottery/world app, ...

Lmao, but dev has already sent thousands apon thousands to exchanges and has been collecting btc without our knowledge....  And no not Mne from the ico. He has dumped Mne, as he owns almost all the supply

What are you talking about? Minereum devs are not Artemien devs, this was communicated already?

And this is obviously a gimmik account.... Look at all your post.. Don't make it so obvious

Eventhough they're different devs, they still work together, they're sistercompanies. Also, does anyone truly believe the devs don't hold genesis addresses? They need to pay for the entire development of two unique platforms, but yeah sure they're doing it out of their own pockets, lol. I don't have a problem with the devs holding genesis addresses and selling the coins on exchanges to be honest, but a lot of people don't seem to realise this obvious fact.

But the question is... How many addresses do you think is fair that they hold? 10% 40% 90%???

I think enough to support himself and a few teammembers, so probably around 1000, which is 3.2%.

There is only around 4200 gen address... Not 32k... That's how many coins each address with mine over the years

Damn kinda got those numbers mixed up there Smiley well if thats the case they might have less, I figured they had a team of 10 members, and they wanted to make 100% sure they could sustain themselves even if prices dropped to 0.5$. That's how I got to 1000 addresses. Now i think that's a little much, maybe 500 or something, really guessing here

What would be your opinion if they had thousands of those addresses.... Like pretty much almost all of the addresses?
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