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Subject: You forgot Bitcoin, as it also broke up above downtrend after July 12 https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/ecm-the-cycle-inversion/You forgot Bitcoin. Bitcoin has also broken above the downtrend line same as for the US dollar and Canadian dollar. This is yet another confirmation for you that Bitcoin is becoming a world reserve currency. Continue to ignore this Martin at your peril. Looks like there will be a cycle inversion for the Dow as it has just about touched the July high level. Maybe this will be the return to the run away market.
Looks like Martin’s SLINGSHOT is in play. But Bitcoin was also the only other major asset that also broke up through downtrend line after July 12. Looks like Bitcoin will be mooning again into 2020/21 around the next halving. |
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I received the following rebuttal verbatim from Shelby (aka AnonyMint) via Crypto.cat.My gosh I take 2 or 3 days break from BCT to get some real work done and I see that the Core shills have sent Gregory Maxwell to spread lies about me. Let’s make two things very clear: 1. I am not interested in posting on this forum in its current state without a decentralized form of moderation. Because as I already explained, I would want to mute the trolls from my circle, without any danger of anyone’s (including my) posts being actually removed and inaccessible entirely. So removal of the ban is irrelevant. Preferably all the data should be on a transparent decentralized block chain ledger instead of a centralized, opaque database. 2. Gregory you’re trolling firstly because you know damn well I have caught you making technological errors more than once. Secondly I will challenge you below on your claims about my technological expertise. On the first point for example in your CoinJoin thread wherein you proposed a blacklist as a solution to jamming which made no sense whatsover as I (AnonyMint) pointed out in 2013. You were mighty offended. Or the Ogg discussion in Meta which I recently documented in my censored posts. You have also caught me making errors, e.g. when I was first learning about Winternitz and my posts in the Compact Confidential Transactions thread. The difference being that I readily admitted my errors (archived here and here) and thanked Gregory for his assistance even after he had gone about in a dictatorial and intentionly demeaning manner; whereas, he never reciprocates when he is in error in my interactions with him and he trolls me with lies. I have never claimed to be an expert in cryptography specifically. But if you want to discuss programming language design, the design of garbage collectors, type theory, parallelism, concurrency, and various other technologies in computer science then my knowledge is more on the high end. For example, can Gregory point out a flaw in my Github post today pointing out an error in a research paper on the scaling of cache coherency to multi-core? Since Gregory erroneously claims everything technological I write even in the blockchain and crypto arena is an error, I would like for him to refute the solution I recently devised for jam-resistent atomic cross-chain exchange: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/scaling-decentralization-security-of-distributed-ledgersDon’t be shy now Mr. Ego. Remember I was the one who pointed out to @TierNolan that his cut-and-choose protocol was still not jam resistant. I have now solved that open problem and published my solution openly for anyone to implement. Also please refute this technical explanation I made that “Actually HTLCs can be done on the Satoshi’s Bitcoin without the Core cruft added (with the SegWit improvements unncessary when only a small number of large Mt. Box hubs will be relevant because Lightning Networks naturally centralizes due to liquidity pressure)”. Anytime you would like to attempt to prove your claim about technological superiority by engaging in a debate with me about SegWit, Lightning Networks, Side-chains etc. then I am willing, but it must be done on a neutral forum where neither of us can control the moderation. That will be very illuminating for sure. And I expect you will not do it, because you know you are going to be widely seen as much more fallible after that. I am also contented to continue my work, be free from all the stress of the BCT trolls including the Core shill trolls, and leave this just die here as it is dying. The ball is in your court. I have almost 5000 posts on the forum, in many different subforums and subjects. But only something like 13 posts in 2018, most in February. Like me, many other technical parties have stopped using the forum entirely or almost entirely. [...] Usually I only post now when a journalist sees something on BCT and asks me to comment, instead of comment to the journalist I prefer to just go reply to the the thread.
It's a waste of that time to spend it in a place where there are decent odds of their efforts being buried under a mountain of abusive nonsense. Even those few who don't find his dishonest practices extremely annoying are forced to admit that it's just a waste of time to be in the same venue as someone like that.
I believe that, as much as any single person could possibly be, AnonyMint (and the forum's historical failure to get him under control) is responsible for a significant fraction of the technically competent people becoming largely inactive.
Lol, you try to blame your forum inactivity on me. As if I am responsible for the 2 million sockpuppet troll accounts that make BCT such a pita now. Fact is that you already achieved the coup d’etat of Satoshi’s protocol, so you are no longer burdened with the necessity of censoring and railroading the community discussion to prevent disagreement with Core’s propaganda. That is until I come back to the board, then y’all need to scamper back into “r0ach motel” censorship mode. You bring out your “ big guns” now to try to discredit my truths. Lol. I like how you tried to obfuscate your trolling as victimization. You’re always playing the social consensus politics. As Mircea Popescu correctly stated, you’re a conniving, manipulative, dishonest, and duplicitous individual. Rather I am frank and straightforward. Bitcoin will not be compromised
Which is exactly what Core hath done, as explained with detail in my censored posts. With AnonyMint from the moment he takes interest in a thread the outcome is clear in advance-- he's going to post and rant until everyone gives up or flames out and it's never going to change.
IOW, you do not like the truths I have been relentlessly explaining, such as the corruption that is Core’s hijack of Bitcoin. My censored posts contain all that information. Of course you will try to attack my reputation. Who would expect anything less when you’re more of a political hack than an accomplished technological expert. If we really dig into debate about what you claim to have accomplished, the gleam is going to come off of it. Mostly you’ve been pushing a social consensus hijack of Satoshi’s protocol in order to move the people on to the Core altcoin and/or off-chain onto to what must become fractional reserves. It can sometimes be difficult to tell the difference between someone who is blowing smoke and someone who simply knows some things that you do not know. But, I have always valued your opinion quite highly so, for me, this is case settled on the AnonyMint question. Thanks for taking time to weigh in. Good luck and god speed in your work.
Obviously you still can’t discern the difference. And you believe what you want to believe. So enjoy the outcome when I am entirely correct in the end. Make sure you hodl your Bitcoins in SegWit addresses so you can thank Gregory Maxwell when you lose all your real Bitcoin. On the topic of interpersonal skills, I wrote the following today on Quora: I upvoted (before I read your comment) because it’s a well articulated explanation of one way to handle the situation. But this might also be indicative of the quality level of the rest of the team being too low. I don’t think dumbing down the rockstar developer is the only correct way to look at the problem. He may be frustrated by the inferior abilities of the rest of the team. Although IQ is not necessarily correlated to rockstar programmer status, it’s a well known fact that people 2–3 SD below in IQ are incapable of keeping up and the higher IQ person would just become frustrated if they even tried. So I can imagine the same phenomenon can go on in programming. Well not just imagine, because I have experienced it (probably from both sides of the situation both being inferior to rockstars above me and be superior to others below me in skill level). So his demeanor may have been an accumulation of frustration, not just a lack of interpersonal skills. But it would require assessment of the details to know in each case. I do agree it is more likely to just be poor interpersonal skills since that seems to be the norm amongst the INTJ stereotype (note I am ENTP). Also the question seems to imply the offender did this immediately upon landing, so not exhibiting any patience or accumulation of frustration would seem to indicate poor interpersonal skills, I could also imagine he being so smart that he would preempt the frustration he doesn’t want to endure. Smart people cut a beeline to the ultimate outcome which is basically forcing the company to upgrade the team he is asked to work with or fire him. I admit I am turned off by the this answer to some degree because it presumes the inertia of the group is more valuable than the rockstar developer (and the cohorts he might entice to a smaller more efficient team). This group-first mentality is Asian, not Western. We in the West didn’t rise to the top by defeating individualism. We did defeat tribalism and clans to increase our cooperation[1] (which is what held the East back during the Agricultural and Industrial revolutions), but this wasn’t at the expense of individual excellence and invention.[2] [1] https://blog.jim.com/culture/thermodynamics-of-social-entropy/[2] https://steemit.com/philosophy/@anonymint/geographical-cultural-ethos-science-is-dead-part-2The technological decline in the West is due to all this egalitarianism nonsense is getting severe: https://blog.jim.com/war/technological-decline-3/And so let’s quote from one of those cited sources as it applies directly to why decentralized moderation is going to win: You will notice that Putin dealt with Pussy Riot’s weaponized supererogatory holiness preaching in a way that deliberately maximized disorder – maximized outgroup disorder in order to sustain ingroup order. That is the way to do it.
Or in less words, successful order increases external disorder, so that it is on trend with inexorable universal maximization of entropy. It’s interesting to tie that in with another quote so we understand why the global elite try to destroy us with disorder: Peoples that allow female sexual choice disappear.
And if you don’t comprehend those quotes Gregory, then you can’t blame it on me, because I didn’t write it. You might just come to realize that you don't know everything, or stated another way, you’re not as smart as you think you are. EDIT: frankly I think this entire drama is childish. Anyone looking at this from the outside would think they were observing 5 years throwing sand in the sandbox. Maybe we should all grow up.
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Rules of Bureaucracies
1) The first thing you do is assign blame. Do not fix the problem, but make sure that blame is assigned. Remember if you fix the problem, your job is at risk.
2) Assign your work to someone else
3) Vote/assign yourself salary raises and as many perks as you can get.
REPLY: Corporations also fail when the board replaces the creators, abandon imagination, and proceed to comply with all the rules so they are run by the lawyers and accountants.
The forum staff's time would be better spent elsewhere rather than discussing obviously-valid-bans with try-hard trolls. Just ban him and roach whenever they pop up and let's move on.
The forum staff’s time would be better spent playing with tinker toys or bunny rabbits so they can satiate their fantasies concerning the relevance of bureaucracy.
Or you know he could just follow the rules like the rest of us, hell I don't really know why that is a foreign concept to people around here? Is this fucking bizzaro land or something...
We already had this discussion. What fucking rules? It is all arbitrary shit. You just keep pointing at “the rules” which are obviously a bizzaro clusterfuck. Yet you come back for sloppy seconds on more of the same. Just keep your clusterfuck Core-shill controlled echo chamber designed to take all your n00bs’ real Bitcoins as SegWit donations some years from now. Shelby isn’t coming back to receive more abuse. So that you n00bs can’t shift the blame for all your bizzaro clusterfucks on him. A scapegoat is what the MOB always wants. That is why the elite create a war when the economy is collapsing. Shelby already wrote up-thread that he will only want to come back if the fucking forum is changed in someway such that it’s not an insane asylum. Now I see the Core-brigade is attempting to get @aliashraf banned. They are building their case by labeling him a troll. IF you're correct 1 time in 7 years over almost 2 million users, sounds like a good record to me!
2 million spambot accounts you mean. Of those real humans who joined in 2013 or before which include Shelby as @AnonyMint and @Ix as @Etlase and who still remain on this forum, I bet that is less than 1000. An example of non-arbitrary rules is Nakamoto proof-of-work. If you don’t obey the rules and instead follow some n00b MOB-rule consensus nonsense, you lose all your Bitcoins. It is non-arbitrary because it does not depend on the insanity and mass delusions of the masses (such as your equating of 2 million sockpuppet spambots with actual real users of merit): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_CrowdsAs usual I expect this post to be completely incomprehensible to n00bs like @theymos. Forum rules clearly says:
3. No trolling.
But “trolling” is ill-defined as that quoted thread points out. The rule is a subjective clusterfuck which can be abused by moderators. And does not actually protect anyone against highly abusive trolling as Shelby pointed out by example in his first post on the page 1 of this thread.
Fuck man, one of the threads (the 2nd page of the Wall Observer: Errors & Corrections) that @mprep nuked, I had sent in an email to the President of the Philippines and senator Manny Pacquiao, along with upper level Dept. of Finance officials. I’m hoping to go visit Manny who lives 2 hours from me to congratulate him on his victory yesterday where he regained a title belt at age 39. He and I are both athletes. I’ve been his fan since he was only a local fighter here in Mindanao when I was age 33 before I was blinded in my right eye (I’ve been living here in Mindanao since 1994). Humblebragging and fishing for sympathy. Keeping it classy, anonymint. Shelby received an email response from the Dept. of Finance: > Dear Mr. Moore, > > This is in response to your e-mail last 06 July 2018 stating your > suggestions on how to accelerate the development of our country. > > We would like to thank you for diligently looking out for areas of > improvement in our government. It is through the fervent appeals from > concerned citizens, such as yourself, that we are able to achieve true > reforms. We are extensively studying your proposals and will consider them > in the crafting of our next policies. > > Feel free to e-mail me should you have further concerns. > > Thank you for your support. > > Regards, > Karl Kendrick T. Chua > Undersecretary of Finance Hi Karl, Thanks so much for the reply. Hey congratulations to Manny Pacman! One last time to be a world champion. We are very happy down here in Mindanao. Wishing you and yours also the happiness of a rising Asia and a rising Philippines! My main point I want you all over there in the Dept of Finance to realize is the West is collapsing. It is a slo-motion collapse. Asia is rising and China will take the reigns from New York and London by 2032. All the youth are in Asia and the West has huge debts to pay especially to its aging population. Unfortunately one of the forum threads I had sent you a link to was nuked
by a corrupt moderator at that forum.As I replacement I highly recommend that your staff begin reading the blog of Martin Armstrong: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/blog/Ignore the Market Talk posts, and focus on the posts about where the global economy is headed and why. Martin Armstrong was the largest hedge fund manager ever. In the 1980s he managed the $2 trillion Japanese Postal sovereign wealth fund. He was a collector of history and spent $millions to assemble a database of this history since antiquity and he put all that data into a massive correlation algorithm on a supercomputer. From that, he has been able to identify repeating patterns throughout all human history. His models clearly show that China rises to #1 economic power in the world by 2032. Also please be aware of the truth about Martin Armstrong: https://www.quora.com/What-do-economists-think-of-Martin-Armstrong-and-the-documentary-The-Forecaster/answers/12623536/comment/67938100https://www.quora.com/What-do-economists-think-of-Martin-Armstrong-and-the-documentary-The-Forecaster/answer/Tim-Knight-3/comment/67936701If there is any way I can be of (volunteer) assistance, please do not hesitate to ask. I want to see the Philippines leverage its strengths to its maximum potential. I hope the Philippines can resist the pressure from the West to commit economic and societal suicide. Do not listen to the West! Use the West as China is doing! Regards, Shelby H. Moore III U.S. citizen living in Davao on/off since 1994 father of two filipino-American citizens Message for @theymos. I hope you are fully prepared to defend yourself in a lawsuit. And the least of which will come out of a lawsuit is destroying your anonymity or at least determining if your meat identity is really Michael Marquardt as originally posted on bitcoin.org and originally doxxed on blockchain-db.com. Also some people think theymos is the web site designer for the Senate of Wisconsin. @theymos also claimed to be a computer-science student at the University of Wisconsin. |
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I'm not gonna re-hash what's been said there is no value in that for anyone!
Well, at least you have not destroyed the value by not re-hashing it (unlike some who drop nukes e.g. @mprep). It's unfortunate that we were involved in strife. I wish it was not the case. You are correct about one thing at least, you the users just want something that works without all the strife. And Shelby does too. Users are sick of all the trolling, spam, and strife. That is why they adamantly support “the rules”. But “the rules” are not working. Good day to you Sir. I hope we can move on amicably. |
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I don't doubt he was online more than me, that stat is also irrelevant.
You make no sense. If that stat is irrelevant, then why do you cite your 5 years here as justification of your righteousness? Advocating to follow very few, very simple rules is simply not trying to chose for everyone and frankly it's a ridiculous transition.
I repeat: “What rules?” Of course they have, try to look at the responses again. Constantly evading your ban, ie sneaking back when banned is breaking the rules, is this that difficult to actually understand?
We are talking about the original justification for the ban. If it can’t be explained what egregious violation of rules he did to justify the original PERMANENT ban, then all the shit that follows it is also unjustified. Because Shelby refused to bend down on his knees and kiss @theymos’ feet when @theymos demanded that he submit to the allegation that he had broken rules which he thinks was a farce? The argument that just because other users aren't caught and punished therefore when I am caught and punished it is a conspiracy is so fucking tired and old, especially around here, it's like calling everyone Nazi, give us a break.
How do you justify perma-banning because of failure to not “multi-post” when in fact he stopped “multi-posting”? Why do @theymos and @mprep accuse him of being uncivil to other users when he has documented in fact that for example @stereotype was much more uncivil even making repeated written verbal abuse attacks related to Shelby’s children. Besides, @mprep has stated up-thread that incivility is not a reason to ban someone and only threats of bodily harm are not allowed. You construct some mirage of your own choosing to justify totalitarian corruption. Mod policy has little to with me but I am will to submit to the current forum rules
I repeat: “What rules?” I can hear it know the whole bunny in the wood chipper, ya ya I know, I'm a happy little bunny!
Indeed. I agree the forum has a SERIOUS signal to noise ratio problem but it really doesn't seem like an easy fix (or it would have happened already). I am still hopeful a solution can be found!
And when that solution is precisely what Shelby has proposed and there is no other solution, then you will still continue to think he should be banned? Insane. |
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I based my statement off my observation of the forum over the last 5+ years here.
Shelby has been here for 5 years also. I bet he was online in the forum more than you. Why are you so special? I read what both sides claim and we all have to choose which side they feel[I must choose for everyone what] is right.
FTFY Based on my personal experience here in the forums and the information I've read so far I am inclined to believe his constant breaking of rules is the reason for his ban and not the conspiracy theory side.
Nobody has answered his repeated up-thread “What rules?” Bottom line is you totalitarians think he is incorrigible and you want to control him but you do not apply the same control to all users of the forum (as he has documented up-thread). And you are unwilling to submit to decentralized moderation stored on a decentralized ledger. And thus bitcointalk.org must be disintermediated, because as you can see (as Shelby warned you last year) the spam is getting worse and the users are growing weary of the “junk posts”. The forum is dying. Volume of new spam accounts is not an indicator of growth. Observe what happens. (I don't generally buy into a lot of conspiracy theories, but that's me).
You mean you allow yourself to be manipulated by those who control the propaganda. Quite objective of you. Kudos. I should learn to be a fully-docile, unobtrusive sheep like you so I will not be banned by the gatekeepers! The tall poppy syndrome. |
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Find me a vageta meme that communicates the idea "it's under 9000 but still really impressive" and I'll be impressed.
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While I was referring to deletion of posts in non-anunymint threads, yeah, you're right on the anunymint thread posts. If they had posted any substantial content that could stand on it's own with a bit of editing, they're free to ping me via PM and I'll send over the BB code.
Unfortunately as you know, the affected users received no notification of the deletion so many of the dozens of people affected ostensibly do not know they are and we have no way to contact them because we also do not know who they were. For example, no complete archive was kept for the following two threads and I had some very important posts of mine in these two threads which I can’t reconstruct even on STEEM because I didn’t archive them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4579834.0;allhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4462571.0;allSo I would like to suggest a kind gesture on your part would be send everyone their posts from the above two linked threads, including mine on this account or the banned @anunymint account. Or if you want to just restore those two threads (and no others), that would be even better for me. Or even if you restored them long enough for me to archive them, and the deleted them again, that would also be better for me. Traxo partially archived both threads (see the 2 recent threads he posted). As for the other posts, the interested parties should PM me and I can send over the posts' BBCodes. Since all your posts (aside from the thread itself) were deleted, you technically should have all the post contents from said threads as well. Shelby tells me that you are incorrect. He never received any copies of the deleted posts from the threads which were entirely nuked. And he would like to have a copy of those posts. Please do send them to either of his banned accounts and post here indicating which account you sent them to. Also he still thinks it is ridiculous that he has lost the context of the posts of the others who were in the discussion. And the archives I had made are highly incomplete for the two threads he mentioned. I had posted nearly complete archives for the other threads you nuked. Those two Shelby listed are the most problematic. Please. Shelby informs me via Crypto.cat that he was unable to reply to your private message because he was only allowed 2 messages per day and you and he had already consumed his prior day’s allotment and then his account was banned. So he asked me to insert his reply here. |
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Read rule #25 and then you can see why I assume that account was banned (No I did not ban it).
Dude if you read and follow the rules you can say almost ANYFUCKINGTHING here on this forum. I have yet to see a user following the rules receive a ban for just a controversial opinion.
Although the forum is absolutely centralized you will find very few medium that allows you as much freedom as here. Just don't break the very few, very simple rules and you will be 100% fine!
Shelby (aka @AnonyMint) claimed the opposite up-thread. He claims his @TPTB_need_war was banned originally in 2016 (none his accounts prior to that were banned) because he wrote critically about Monero and Ethereum and because he was insulting (those who were also insulting Shelby) influential anonymous members such as @gmaxwell 1, @Foxpup, @stereotype, @Lauda, @iCEBREAKER, etc.. Shelby claims that the original “multi-posting” allegation (which he entirely stopped doing a long-time ago) is something everyone does ( look here is a link to (archived here) @aliashraf doing it yesterday) and was a fabricated reason to silence him because he is the one who speaks with the most critical technological rigor on the entire forum. While I haven't been closely following Anonymint's newest alt's posts after my last response to him, looking at his post history, he, as Flying Hellfish said, probably got banned for starting to get into discussions that weren't about his ban (as per the explanation of rule 25 in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0; suggestions for skipping junk posts, opinion on LN, talking about his decentralized forum in unrelated threads). If I'm not mistaken, that's what got his the_end_is_near account banned as well.
25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
He was not evading his ban. The LN reply (archived here) was a reply to discussions that others made in the Meta threads about his ban! He was discussing the topic you and he were discussing in this thread about the entirely arbitrary concept of moderation that @theymos alleges he violated. You guys are just inventing arbitrary fucking technicalities to justify your insane totalitarianism because Core can’t withstand his powerful logic. 1 Obviously Gregory Maxwell, so an exception to anonymous
I told Shelby he should lessen the toxicity of the following message he sent me and he replied “no they will never stop the toxicity and idiocy, the only solution is decentralized moderation, please post my truth”: |
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Oh? So you are going to pick up the Shelby (anunymint) slack to inform us about something of substance? Or you just want to defend a troll? Aka banned person? By the way, if you have arguments that are really technical in nature, then you might want to present them in another thread.. If you want to spread some unsubstantiated and confusing claims like anunymint was presenting, then maybe you will find yourself in a similar fate, as him?
You’re an expert troll. Kudos. Your repetitively asserting such is not going to make it true Your repetitive pattern of eating the “feeding the troll” troll bait is making it true. and how much credibility do you have, actually
Appeal to authority eh. And you how much credibility do you have? And, your ongoing failure and refusal to attempt to provide any kind of substance rather than personal attacks and status assertions, seems to demonstrate that you have no real intention to provide meaningful substance in your posts.
You talk about yourself when you think you are talking about others. It is freakin’ hilarious. The substance was provided. You have so many excuses as to why you don’t have time to read it, can’t comprehend it, or how it wasn’t written especially tailored for your comprehension. Contemplating[BTFD and preparing to sell]. We can make a deal. Instead of ranting about how no one respects your authority, how about you tell us something important, interesting or at least entertaining. We will then respect you in the morning.
@anunymint provided it already. Cats think animals that primarily sense movement can’t see them. They (small cats as pictured) are not interested in whether humans can see them. You’re not food. I've been in this space for nearly 5 years,
So has @anunymint. And he has been a programmer for 40 years. You? Did you believe NIST when they said that WTC7 collapsed due to a model which has been hence proven to be implausible?
Again, we are deviating off topic, and this is an example in which there is evidence both ways... and we need not get into details of off-topicness in order to prove the extent to which we may or may not have developed sufficient critical thinking skills, right? Lol. No there is no evidence at all for the government’s story. Once again you do not study the details. Here you go.. mischaracterizing my assertion as giving advice to "ignore Shelby"... People can do whatever the fuck they want. Whatever, my comments were to Shelby or to you stand on their own.
Good you’ve come clean on that. I could certainly get the impression that you were trying to form an echo chamber and groupthink by slapping each other on the back for writing derogatory comments about Shelby’s attempt to help hodlers not lose their real Bitcoin. Do you recall our stupid ass previous troll, Stolfi, who presented himself and his arguments in this thread for a few years, and he was proclaiming to be a neutral professor.. and who gives a ratt's ass if he really was a professor, because his ideas were wrong, trollish and misleading.
You were around this forum for 5 years and you do not even know that Shelby was refuting Stolfi both here and at Redditard. You don’t get out much from this echo chamber do you? your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy
Highly intellectual comments. Ty. figure out a way to present and tailor their ideas to such audience(s) to the extent that they believe their presentation serves their purpose(s)
Indeed. That is why @anunymint did not try to make the argument strongly here. That would be futile. He obviously did not present the warning to help you. You are beyond help. He obviously presented the information for other reasons. And I doubt you can figure out what those reasons are. |
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@JayJuanGee, @infofront suggested that we move the offtopic discussion to Meta, but I see you refuse. I have put my reply to you there in Meta. Please continue your further replies there. |
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or they are talking a bunch of gibble-dee-gook nonsense.
Seriously, how can you discern what is “gibble-dee-gook nonsense” when you don’t understand technological discussions because you’re not a domain expert in that field? Do you seriously expect that a domain expert can explain to a 5 year old the intricacies of Bitcoin’s Nash equilibrium and Schelling points along with the technological nuances intertwined therein. Ostensibly you just believe everything Core tells you as gospel. Do you also believe everything every expert tells you? Did you believe the lie of the climate scientists when they said that man caused global warming. Did you believe NIST when they said that WTC7 collapsed due to a model which has been hence proven to be implausible? What if you’re wrong and everybody who followed your advice to ignore Shelby loses all their real Bitcoins? Are you going to apologize? Or run away forsaking your anonymous online identity? Shelby is not anonymous. You are. |
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https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruptionA warrior can learn how to present ideas clearly consisely, persuasively and even forcefully rather than employing various emotional outbursts, irrelevancies and personal attacks.
You’re an expert troll who desires an echo chamber and intentionally obfuscates (archived here and here) that you are unwilling or unable to learn the technological details (archived here and here) Seems like bullshit to put banned folks like this on a pedestal
You’re jealous when your trolling isn’t effective at maintaining the echo chamber. But this isn’t about putting anyone on a pedastal. It's about removing the groupthink and old boys’ clubs that plunge society into clusterfucked totalitarianism. Well anyway, it's partly my fault for steering this off course but let's not make this the anonymity discussion thread.  Not really. It was @mprep and his automated scripts that caused this diversion. Protecting the status quo or narrative through this form of censorship is no better than how the mainstream media overlook the opposing elements or use selective truth to suit their own narrative.
Somebody is awake. Kudos. people enjoyed reading them even if they didnt agree with some of the points made.
Of course we will not know who was not wearing underwear until the tide rolls out. So all of us can claim he was full of shit, but the confirmation of who is wrong comes in the future. A warrior is out of options in this situation, he has to over magnify the truth, to make it distinguished from the lies and to bring it out from the shades and shadows.
True. And good point. But let’s wait to see if the reality some 4 or 6 years from now is not exactly as bad as Shelby has predicted. We can only judge in hindsight not in foresight.
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https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruptionEOS raised more than a billion
Ever heard of the concept of buying the ICO from yourself so the issuer surreptitiously controls 80+% of the token supply? Clearly flawed "design". Most annoying spammers would be perfectly able (and happy) to spend way more on posting than "legit" users. That's a FACT (See spam signature campaigns for reference).
Moderators of your own individual choosing who flag spam as not visible to you is not any more costly than bitcointalk.org having moderators who do the same thing. The amount of spam that has to be filtered would be less due to it not being entirely free to post. Remember the decentralized ledger only has to store a hash, not the entire content. Those who are serving the content may refuse to keep copies of spam which no one else ever pays to retrieve. Are you presuming the moderators here are paid? By whom? So if they are profiting, then are they impartial and objective? Where is that genius IQ that I was told exists here? Oh? So you are going to pick up the Shelby (anunymint) slack to inform us about something of substance? Or you just want to defend a troll? Aka banned person? By the way, if you have arguments that are really technical in nature, then you might want to present them in another thread.. If you want to spread some unsubstantiated and confusing claims like anunymint was presenting, then maybe you will find yourself in a similar fate, as him?
You’re an expert troll. Kudos. Did you analyze my 12k + posts to find them unworthy?
The pattern was evident after only a dozen or so. ooooh another list! can i be on it too. huh huh please please  Echo chambers need lists to keep everything tightly contained (anal-ized) It’s likely anunymit on another ALT any way.
Theymos he is here
Refuted. Somehow all of the rest of us manage to avoid copying and pasting our same long winded arguments multiple times...
Yeah right none of the 20859 pages of this thread are redundant. Actually, the exclusion of data is vital to the formation of intelligence.
Shelby also thought so in 2013. But you did not address my challenge to you. Where is the evidence for your “good case” claim? You were implying that Shelby is not suitably equipped to do genius level work. Are you sure? The savant Kim Peek, who was portrayed by Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man, showed us what happens when the mind is unfiltered: you end up reading telephone directories
Could it be that what you perceive to be noise from Shelby is actually information which you are unable or unwilling to follow because of either your lack of IQ or more likely because of your preconditions, confirmation biases, and the maximum division-of-labor requiring effort to keep up with a domain expert? Anyone that uses that term gets Auto Ignored now.
So you’d also cut your dick off because someone pointed at you and yelled rape? God misplaced the discernment module when he conceived you.
Somehow all of the rest of us manage to avoid copying and pasting our same long winded arguments multiple times... How do we ever survive it... Correct me if I am wrong but that is what got him banned right?
I think it was because he refused to combine posts and that is against the TOS. He was warned many times but being Shelby he feels he does not need to follow the rules and is above them. He then made a game of creating alts to avoid the banning. I believe all he has to do is apologize take his temp banning and then follow the rules to get reinstated. Basically he has not been doing any of these things for a year or more: https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruptionI challenge you to go into the archives of what @mprep deleted and find one instance where he posted two consecutive posts in any thread. There is not one case you can find.
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https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruption(link to Medium blog with the same content will be inserted here) If they make sense on their own, the users are free to fetch them from the deletion PMs, edit them and repost them.
The users can’t retrieve their posts from the threads where @anunymint wrote the first post in the thread, because you acknowledged up-thread that users do not receive notifications of deletions when a moderator nukes an entire thread. Rather users only receive notifications (and copies) of deletions when only individual posts are deleted from a thread, not when the entire thread has been nuked. You admitted this up-thread and now you contradic kT yourself.
I'm pretty sure you're having a discussion with one of his alts right now.
I already told you that my IP address is a well known ISP in Croatia thus verifiably not a VPN: So we're just supposed to pretend this isn't yet another one of your accounts and you aren't talking about yourself in the third person right now?
The point is that it does not matter who I am. But seriously ask Theymos to check my IP address. How did Shelby transport himself to Croatia while he is simultaneously reading this from his account from an IP address in the Philippines. He and I are not liars. Do you fantasize that he and decentralization are lone, isolated kooks? So you’d also cut your dick off because someone pointed at you and yelled rape? God misplaced the discernment module when he conceived you.
I am not an administrator, and I don't know every single factor.
All the factors were enumerated, but as usual accordingly to your preferred trolling pattern, once again you’re so interested in commenting on issues which you know nothing about and are too lazy to actually research. so it seems pretty fucking difficult to get banned in this forum
Ostensibly it’s very easy to get banned when you offend many people by writing things that are total alien to their ignorant viewpoints. And then telling them that they are ignorant when the antagonists refuse to research, only after patience is exhausted when the anagonists have made numerous inflammatory and derogatory remarks such as you do. The decentralized moderation idea Shelby has proposed would make it easy for offended people to Ignore him (even as a group with a shared chosen moderator), but not make it possible to actually erase data that otherwise (here on bitcointalk.org) prevents his circle of peers from having access to their hard work and effort. Not all of us have the same circle of peers. You boys over in the Wall Observer thread like to masturbate with jokes and what not. Shelby prefers serious technical work. You do not understand him and he has no desire to understand you. Regarding, the supposed substantive importance of anunymint: I would imagine if he was actually saying something that was so fucking substantively important, then it would either not be deleted or others would be ready, willing and able to say it.. in other words, we are likely not losing much if anything substantively by getting rid of peeps, such as anunymint, who rise to such high level of nonsense to actually get banned from a relatively permissive forum.
Once again there you go again with your generalities commenting about something you know nothing about. I provided you some examples which exemplify that it can be very damaging to presume the correctness of groupthink. You pontificate from a position of ignorance. Any domain expert knows that is equivalent to pulling noise out of your asshole. Details matter. Very much. In domain expertise. You apparently don't understand what is a troll. You should look in the mirror or look at your fuck buddy, anunymint, as examples of what is a troll. If you spent more time providing good arguments and substance, then perhaps you could get somewhere with your various arguments, instead you and your fuck buddy, anunymint, seem to get caught up on questions of status and personalities.
Lol, trolling while you "refute" my compliment that you’re an expert troll. Kudos again! Maybe you should go suck anunymint's dick, if he has one?
Kudos. Well done. So @anunymint is the one who hurls insults???
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Anonymint's still banned.
While wiping over a dozen pages of posts may have been difficult in the past, I've since written up a few scripts to assist me in this task. As for the replies, again, in most cases if a post a user was replying to was deleted, said reply would either be deleted or edited to remove the now deleted content.
you realize that running those scripts has probably done more damage to others than to him, right? They participated in valuable discussions. And you decide to delete their posts as well? It's even worse than useless because it destroys value. Perhaps you could try and write some useful scripts in the future? Any posts made while one of your accounts is banned is considered ban evasion. If a user gets banned, creates a new account and continues posting (a.k.a. ban evading), I will ban his account and in most cases wipe any posts made during the ban.
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